History Headscratchers / ApolloJusticeAceAttorney

** As for where the piano at the agency came from, they’re actually really easy to get for free because they’re so difficult to move. Phoenix probably found one that was being given away and got some of his many friends to move it into his office. In fact, in the first ''Investigations'' game, Gumshoe mentions he used to work for a moving company.

** As for where the piano at the agency came from, they’re actually really easy to get for free because they’re so difficult to move. Phoenix probably found one that was being given away and got some of his many friends to move it into his office. In fact, in the first ''Investigations'' game, Gumshoe mentions he used to work for a moving company.

* Why was a dying cancer patient even allowed to keep a loaded gun he could use to shot himself in his hospital room? Yes, it's a one of his stage prop, not a "proper gun", but obviously it's fully capable of firing real shots, and it was ''loaded.''

## Even if he had presented the diary page, it would have presented an even stronger motive for Zak to kill Magnifi than a vague sense of blackmail.

* Please tell me I'm not the only one that has thought about this. Phoenix presents forged evidence without being aware of his crime and loses his attorney's badge. Edgeworth presented forged evidence without being aware of his crime in SL-9, three years before the events of ''Rise from the Ashes'', and his crime is overlooked. Okay, this may be due to bias toward prosecutors or something in the Ace Attorney-verse, and Edgeworth did nearly kill himself over his mistake. Still, what am I missing here?

** I thought he said Phoenix frequented his father's shop.

** It wasn't just the connection to the Grammarye case that got him freaked out, it was the mention that she made the diary page. Klavier says that he felt something was off about the whole issue, if you recall. He mercilessly took down Phoenix because he thought Phoenix ordered it made, but then had doubts. He now suddenly has evidence that the situation was not at all what he thought, specifically that the real forager was not Drew Misham, but Vera. Notice that the thing he focuses on is confirming exactly what the evidence she forged was.

*** The problem with this answer is that one of Gavin’s arguments on the first trial day directly contradicts it. When the truth comes out that Machi isn’t truly blind, Gavin argues that it was his inexperience with a gun of that size that caused him to miss one of the two shots, rather than his alleged inability to see. If he was that inexperienced, how would he have avoided the physical repercussions of the gun’s recoil?

** Klavier mentions at one point that his bassist and drummer also took part in the serenade performance.

** To frame Machi. If you re-examine the piano after finding the switch there, Apollo and Trucy conclude that it must’ve been left there after the Guitar’s Serenade performance, since it would affected Machi’s part if he’d tossed it in there during the song. The implication is that Daryan used the switch during the Gavinners’ next song to light the firecrackers, then left it in the piano deliberately. Machi did probably have another switch that was tied to the igniter inside the guitar, but he was trying to keep the smuggling plot under wraps, so he had no reason to bring it up.

* On the first day of trial, Apollo claims to have told Prosecutor Gavin about LeTouse’s last words but that Gavin evidently didn’t listen. Is this a part of some secret optional dialogue or something? Going back to the initial investigation, the only one Apollo mentioned the last words to was Lamiroir; during the trial, he even says that he’s the only one who knew of LeTouse’s last message. So why is he claiming to have told Gavin about it?

** Simply because it’s really obvious that Stickler wasn’t actually the killer. As Gavin points out, the only connection he had to the victim was his cell phone being founding the victim’s garage — which was because he hid Trucy’s panties there. And with no connection to the Kitakis or the police, he couldn’t easily have gotten his hands on a gun. Not only does he have no means or motive, but his actions would be viewed as completely illogical if he were assumed to be the killer. The police would have to believe that he was just an opportunistic psychopath who happened upon a crime to which Wocky had already admitted, then decided to intervene and shoot the victim himself, ''then'' decided to leave the crime scene to report the incident to the police, then return to the crime scene to wait so he could be registered as a witness, without which no one would have known who he was. Taking all of that to be true would make him the most irrational and self-defeating murderer of all time, in addition to ignoring the much more reasonable explanations behind his actions.

** Phoenix probably was also interested in reforming the legal system whether or not he was able to nail Kristoph for the forgery. He could’ve used any old case to prove that the Jurist System was a success, and then it would’ve been in place for whenever something did happen to the Mishams. Either that or he was waiting for something to happen to Drew or Vera and never had another case in mind before then, but that’s obviously not something he can tell anyone, so he had to act as though it wasn’t so personal.

* So what was Phoenix's original plan for the jurist system? He seemingly overhauled the legal system solely to get Kristoph to pay for his actions or to get himself freed from the forgery accusation that lost him his badge, but it was a mere stroke of luck that one of the Misham's died RIGHT at the time he was about to implement the system. He even says that he changed the original planned case in favor of the Misham case. But no case that didn't involve the Misham's would help him, so what could his original plan have been?

** Perhaps Magnifi, his grandfather, took care of him between Thalassa's shooting and his own death? Though this means Apollo would have to have been sent elsewhere (adoptive parents?) after Magnifi fell too ill to take care of him, though.
*** But then shouldn't Apollo know who Thalassa is and that Trucy is :his sister?
*** There is evidence that Apollo recognizes Thalassa on some level. Think back to what he thinks when he meets her during case 3:
---> '''Apollo''': (I can't put my finger on why, but I like this Lamiroir.)
*** ...suggesting that there's a faint degree of familiarity, say, if he'd last seen her when he was very young. As for Trucy, well, if the shooting happened when they were both relatively young, then Zak and Magnifi probably didn't let their personal lives mingle very much after that...
** This troper was confused by the entire idea that Apollo doesn't know who Troupe Gramarye is even though theyare his family, so I looked back in the game. Here is the story: Thalassa, part of the troupe, married another performer. She went off with him for a year and had Apollo. Her husband died, she gave up the baby for adoption, came back to the troupe and pretended nothing happened. She then married Zak and had Trucy before getting shot when Trucy was around four.
*** Five, actually.
*** And also, even if Apollo doesn't remember Trucy's name specifically, if he'd been living with the Grammaryes around the time of the accident, you'd think he'd be old enough to remember at least having a sister. But he doesn't.
** My question is, why did Thalassa give up Apollo? I get why she would give him one of her bracelets (she would be able to identify him if she ever saw him again), but why couldn't she take him with her when she went back to Troupe Gramarye? Was she forbidden to go back unless she gave him up?
*** She may have considered keeping Apollo to be too painful of a reminder of her first marriage or something similar. That, or she thought that having the child she had with a different performer, outside the troupe, would make things too awkward either for Apollo or for everyone else. I don't think it's stated in-game, but either of those explanations are pretty plausible.
** Thalassa never brought him back after his father died. ''Spirit of Justice'' explains why.