History Headscratchers / ApolloJusticeAceAttorney

** She promised she wouldn't tell anyone what her good-luck charm was, because doing so would spoil the charm.
** There are plenty of times in games 2 and 3 of the Phoenix Wright trilogy when people's psyche-locks break without the person actually revealing everything, or when people with much more to hide than 12 year old Vera did have psyche-locks that aren't [[spoiler: black]].

* Is the point of the Jurist System to raise the standards that are required for conviction, or lower them? Because it seemed like in case 3, the point being made was that [[spoiler: Daryan]] is obviously the killer, but because the legal system is faulty, he can't be convicted except by [[spoiler: wearing down Machi's reluctance to testify]]. However, in the final case, you never see whether or not [[spoiler: Kristoph]] is convicted by a jury, all you do see is that Vera is acquitted by one. The thing is that Ace Attorney's legal system is ''not'' flawed because it's too difficult to convict the guilty, it's because it's too easy to convict the innocent. You'd think that the reason why Apollo would've been getting up in arms in case 3 is not that [[spoiler: Daryan]] is too hard to convict, but that Machi is too hard to acquit even though he's such an improbable suspect.
** Why would [[spoiler: Kristoph]] need to be convicted by a jury when he was already convicted earlier? In any case, I believe the Jurist System was created because it was too easy to get the innocent sent to jail.
** The two problems - too easy to convict the innocent, too hard to convict the guilty - are inextricably linked. Some cases in the series go as far as saying outright that no matter how conclusively you prove the defendant's innocence, if you don't [[ThePerryMasonMethod identify and prove the real culprit]], the defendant will be found guilty anyway. Cases where it's said "nobody will find him/her Not Guilty, not now" are a departure from the core logic of the game's setting, and don't seem to be thought through.
*** It still isn't too hard to convict the guilty. Seriously, given what we know about this court system, how often do you suppose a guilty suspect manages to get himself declared not guilty? It's merely too hard to convict guilty people ''who have framed someone else'', due to the difficulty of "turning the case around" from the initial suspect. All of this said, Apollo definitely ranted from the wrong angle at the end of case 3. In fact, his rant was on the Wall Banger page for a while before the section was cleaned up. (Only in ''AceAttorney'' can the idea of a jurist system not only be supported for its ability to find people guilty without decisive evidence, but also be primarily backed for this reason by defense attorneys instead of prosecutors.)
**** The court also has absurdly high standards of evidence required to convict anyone other than the defendant. If you doubt this, check up on 2-1, when the Judge says that if Phoenix can't prove the witness's motive the defendant will be found guilty even though the only piece of evidence the prosecution still has that could implicate her implicates the witness just as much. So basically, as the Judge puts it: "Common citizens have something called common sense" which is otherwise completely absent from the court.

* Where was Apollo when [[spoiler:Thalassa is shot? She's his mother, but there is no reference to him during Phoenix's entire half of 4-4.]]
** Perhaps [[spoiler:Magnifi, his grandfather, took care of him between Thalassa's shooting and his own death]]? Though this means Apollo would have to have [[spoiler:been sent elsewhere (adoptive parents?) after Magnifi fell too ill to take care of him, though]].
*** But then shouldn't Apollo know who [[spoiler:Thalassa]] is and that Trucy is [[spoiler:his sister]]?
**** There is evidence that Apollo recognizes [[spoiler:Thalassa]] on some level. Think back to what he thinks when he meets [[spoiler:her]] during [[spoiler:case 3]]:
-----> '''Apollo''': [[spoiler:(I can't put my finger on why, but I like this Lamiroir.)]]
**** ...suggesting that there's a faint degree of familiarity, say, if he'd [[spoiler:last seen her when he was very young]]. As for Trucy, well, if [[spoiler:the shooting]] happened when they were both relatively young, then [[spoiler:Zak and Magnifi probably didn't let their personal lives mingle very much after that]]...
** This troper was confused by the entire idea that [[spoiler:Apollo doesn't know who Troupe Gramarye is even though they are his family]], so I looked back in the game. Here is the story: [[spoiler:Thalassa, part of the troupe, married another performer. She went off with him for a year and had Apollo. Her husband died, she gave up the baby for adoption, came back to the troupe and pretended nothing happened. She then married Zak and had Trucy before getting shot when Trucy was around four.]]
*** This troper agrees with this theory, mostly because [[spoiler: Zak seemed surprised when you mention that Thalassa had a son.]]
*** And also, even if Apollo [[spoiler:doesn't remember Trucy's name specifically, if he'd been living with the Grammaryes around the time of the accident, you'd think he'd be old enough to remember at least having a sister]]. But he doesn't.

* How did Lamiroir wake up in Borginia [[spoiler:after being shot]] when the group was probably in America/Japan during the rehearsal?
** [[spoiler:Magnifi probably smuggled her out of the country to maintain the illusion that she was dead and so his hold on Zak and Valant. He's the sort of person to know people that could take care of her there.]]
** [[spoiler:That's an unsolved mystery with no currently known answer, which means that it'll probably be resolved in a sequel. Apollo's backstory isn't done for yet.]]

* In "Turnabout Trump", why doesn't Apollo's bracelet react to [[spoiler: Kristoph]]'s TwitchyEye?
** Probably because his distress is so obvious at eye-twitching levels that he doesn't need the bracelet to make him aware of it.

* Why did Alita hire Apollo? Yes, we know her stated reason: she wanted [[spoiler: Wocky to be found guilty]] and thought Apollo was [[spoiler: incompetent]]. But consider these facts: 1) Either due to misunderstanding or desired G-cred, Wocky was already admitting to the crime. 2) According to the first game, most defense attorneys don't take clients that they believe are guilty. 3) Also according to the first game, such a client would be given to a state-appointed attorney, which is practically equivalent to an automatic guilty verdict. Basically, she could have sat around and done nothing and he would have been found guilty anyway, and she would have saved money in the process. Or did she think the Kitakis would have otherwise hired a corrupt attorney to rig the trial in his favor?
** Exactly, if she hadn't acted then the Kitakis themselves would have gone and got a competent attorney for their son, she couldn't just do nothing.

* What are Snackoos? Are they savory, are they sweet, are they crunchy, are they chocolate? WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY?!
** They are fried dough covered in chocolate, that somehow make good projectiles.
** Technically, they're ''karintou'': sweet crunchy quasi-cylindrical snacks with a strong visual/auditory resemblance to thumb-sized pumpernickel pretzel sticks, though without any white crystals of salt/sugar embedded in the surface. ''Karintou'' normally get their caramelized color and taste from dark brown sugar, but apparently there are some versions made with chocolate.

* Considering Trucy's father is [[AmbiguouslyBrown Zak Gramarye]], why is she not the slightest bit tan? I don't get how she could possibly be that pale.
** She takes after her mom?
** It's also possible that Zak has an acquired tan.

* What exactly is [[spoiler:Kristoph]] trying to accomplish during the last trial day of 4-4? I mean, [[spoiler: he had already been convicted of killing "Shadi Smith," thereby receiving life in prison and possibly even the death penalty eventually. What good will ensuring that he is not indicted for another murder going to do? Even if he ensured Vera's guilty verdict and thereby got rid of the last person who could rat him out for his evidence forgery, ''he's still a convicted murderer locked up for life''. What's the point of trying to protect your reputation when your reputation has already been ruined by your cold-blooded killing of another man? Is Kristoph just a troll/griefer who enjoys stomping all over Phoenix's and Apollo's efforts, even when he really has nothing to gain from it?]]
** He probably knew that Phoenix had figured out his role in [[spoiler: his disbarment. He probably didn't want Phoenix to reveal the circumstances of his disbarment and get his job back. He's a petty CompleteMonster.]]
** It's mentioned earlier in this case that he is still well-respected by his former peers, many of whom have a hard time accepting [[spoiler: that he is a convicted murderer. He even [[SarcasticConfession sarcastically confesses]] to being a CompleteMonster, showing that he doesn't take his incarceration particularly seriously. It's well-established at this point that he cares far more for his reputation than for justice, so being in jail may not bother him so long as he still has the respect of the lawyers of the world. Trying to shut down Phoenix and Apollo's attempts to tie him to another murder makes for a great opportunity to bolster his reputation by making the two who convicted him in the first place look like out-of-touch fools. Plus, having his plot to destroy Phoenix's career exposed really would damage his reputation beyond repair.]]
** Plus, in Investigations 2, doesn't [[spoiler:Frank Sawhit]] show up as accomplice, and he gets [[spoiler:an extension on his jail time]]? This would seem to imply that [[spoiler:not all of the killers are actually getting the death sentence]], so it's possible that [[spoiler:Kristoph ''didn't'' get the death sentence for killing "Shadi Smith." He probably ''would'' get put on death row for Drew's death, or in the very least get a jail time extension, so he was trying to avoid that.]]

* In case 4, you are unable to use the letter from Misham to prove [[spoiler:Kristoph's connection to the victim]], because it's just a copy created by Phoenix. Why was it not possible to obtain the real letter? [[spoiler:Kristoph is in solitary confinement for murder. Is it not possible to just ask that his mail be confiscated?]]
** By that point, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] should have most likely destroyed the letter already, it'd be futile to try to get the original by then. [[spoiler:Also he is in solitary confinement. But by his choice, and lives in luxury. As much as he can anyway.]]
*** Except that he already has stated that his mail is read before it gets to him. That there isn't a record of mail coming from Drew Misham to his cell is nothing short of gross negligence. Granted, given the conditions he lives in, this probably isn't surprising.

* Where did Phoenix get the idea to become a piano player, especially if he can't play a lick? Yes, there is a piano in the office (covered in magic supplies), but why would he choose to try and advertise himself as one? Did Trucy persuade him? Was he just that desperate? (This also raises another question... Was Mia also a piano player, or was it simply left in the office?)
** His piano playing job is just a cover, he is a professional poker player that attracts clients and gambles to the Borscht Bowl Club.
** He can play a little, so I guess he once took lessons (maybe as a kid) and wasn't that good at it but he thought that would be a good idea for his gambling side job.

* Why does [[spoiler:Kristoph's hair become normal again once he starts laughing at the end of his Super Saiyan breakdown? Is it to show how creepy he is?]]
** Maybe it's just because he's a dandy to the end.

* In Case 4-2, it is established that the reason the Kitakis are going clean is because [[spoiler:they need money for Wocky's operation]]. However, they didn't even KNOW [[spoiler:that Wocky still had the bullet inside him until the check-up a couple of days before the trial!]] How is it possible, therefore, for their business to do a complete u-turn (and gradually) to [[spoiler:pay for an operation]] when they have only known about it for a couple of days, particularly since the motive of [[spoiler:Alita Tiala's marriage is to get her hands on the wealth the Kitakis are aquiring after going clean]], and that happened 6 months ago?
** Odds are that they knew, but couldn't hide this knowledge from [[spoiler:Wocky]] when the results of the checkup (most likely done to see if ''anything else'' was wrong) came out.
*** It may be hard to find a [[spoiler: surgeon]] who can handle a case like that (and take time to come up with enough clean money to pay for it), but you'd think that they would have gotten the [[spoiler: operation]] much earlier if they had known. On the other hand, while this may contradict some in-game dialogue, it's possible that they went clean because of the injury itself ("the gangster life did this to you") and the need for [[spoiler:clean money]] just reinforced that decision.

* Part of the evidence in the first case here was that Phoenix's fingerprints were on the bottle. And they were upside down so he couldn't have just been handling it normally. But my question is, when you're holding the neck of the bottle, how exactly would you be holding it that it looks upside down?
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHyuLuBQiYs The opening video for the case]] shows exactly how the bottle was held, but I'll explain anyway. Usually when one holds a bottle by the neck, the bottle is right-side up and is held with the index finger closest to the cork (pointing upwards) and the pinky closest to the base (pointing downwards). Phoenix grabbed the neck of a bottle that was below him, so he held it the opposite way: his index finger closest to the base (pointing down) and his pinky was closest to the cork (pointing up), which would create the exact same pattern of fingerprints as if he was holding it upside-down.

* In Case 3, why does nobody think it odd that [[spoiler:Machi is discovered unresponsive, apparently unconscious, beside a body he'd likely have never been able to move on his own, certainly not in the time he had available]]? At least, given [[spoiler:his scramble to get away from the body when he walks in on Apollo]], it's highly unlikely that [[spoiler:he'd have just lain there waiting for the hammer to fall]], no matter what his conspirator [[spoiler:Daryan]] said, so [[spoiler:Daryan probably needed to subdue him - not difficult, but certainly conspicuous]]!
** Well, at the time the body was discovered [[spoiler:nobody had known that Daryan was involved]], and they were too busy trying to find the body to pay much attention to what [[spoiler:Daryan]] was doing, probably. Though I still have no idea why this didn't occur to anyone later on in the case...

* What's the deal with [[spoiler:Kristoph's black Psyche-Locks?]] Are they ever broken? When I played through 4-4 and finished the MASON System part, I realized I never had a chance to break them. Was I supposed to? I mean, these things are new and were never in the Phoenix arc, and yet here they are and are never mentioned again.
** The whole point of the [[spoiler:black Psyche-Locks]] is that they ''can't'' be broken, or at least [[spoiler:not by Phoenix. What everyone seems to forget is the question that ''produced'' said Psyche-Locks was something to the extent of: "Why did you kill Shadi Smith?" While Phoenix is unable to get the answer out of Kristoph during the investigation, Apollo is able to figure it out during the trial, thanks partially to his Perceive ability. It was meant to further the idea of "passing the torch" in that even with his Magatama, Phoenix could never beat Kristoph on his own. Instead, it required Apollo and his bracelet. Of course, the impact is lessened when you realize Phoenix was TheChessmaster and arguably is the one who caught Kristoph anyway.]]
*** Any discussion of why the psyche-locks are [[spoiler: a different color]] is going to have to involve some speculation. In any case, the game doesn't even let you [[spoiler:enter an unlock sequence]] and the person in question arguably guards his secrets more tightly than any other character, so the most common interpretation can be be supported.

* This may be a bit picky, but something bugged me when we met Eldoon. The guy says that he used to serve Phoenix and his assistant 'back in his lawyer days,' but then later, during the investigation, he reveals that he's only been doing the noodle stand thing for, what, a year? Unless he's using the MASON System to time-travel like a salt-broth-wielding Time Lord, I think not.
** I thought he said Phoenix frequented his father's shop.

* I know that the real reason was to HandWave the StupidityIsTheOnlyOption moment, but was there ''really'' a plausible reason to [[spoiler:refuse to accept Magnifi's diary itself]]? There was a perfectly solid case to be made out of "[[spoiler:the next page was ripped out, and said page could very well provide a motive or at least refute the current theory]]" without ever needing for [[spoiler:Phoenix to claim to have it without checking its validity first]]. It's likely that [[spoiler:Klavier said it to bait the trap, but Phoenix couldn't have appealed to the judge to allow it]]?
** At this point, the diary was the decisive evidence in Klavier's favor. It would have been useless to just say that "a page has been ripped out," because Klavier could easily counter that by saying there's no way to prove when the page was torn out, or what it was torn out for. The only way Phoenix could swing it back his way was by showing decisive evidence of his own, basically, "what was on that torn diary page."
*** Klavier's argument was basically "this is the last thing he wrote, and the fact that it's the last thing he wrote speaks volumes". When you consider that the most obvious thing to write would be the recipient of the rights, and that at that point in the case, both magicians would have equal motive depending on what happened at that meeting, the fact that the page couldn't be found wouldn't establish either one's guilt.

* Why didn't [[spoiler: Daryan]] ever try to defend himself by saying something along the lines of "you can't prove when the firecrackers went off?" Yeah, we know who has an alibi for which time period and that [[spoiler: bangs were heard during both the second and third sets]]. You'd think [[spoiler: Daryan]] (and maybe Klavier) would have insisted that there wasn't enough proof regarding which noises were fake and which were real.
** Given how Romein was shot in the shoulder and apparently took quite a while to actually die, you could argue that he had to have shot during the second act, or else he'd have a better chance of living (as he'd be discovered right after being shot and could get medical attention). And if he had to have been shot in the second act in order to die during the third act, then [[spoiler:Daryan]] trying to make something up about the fireworks wouldn't have worked out.

* How exactly was [[spoiler: Alita Tiala's]] gold-digging scheme supposed to work? [[spoiler: Suppose she marries Wocky and he dies shortly thereafter. Okay, so... she gets nothing substantial, because the family's wealth belongs to his parents. Maybe he has a bank account that his allowance goes into or some kind of trust fund, but shouldn't most of what the family owns (that they have a legal title to at all) belong to the parents? Unless she was planning on killing Winfred and Plum after the wedding - or thought that they would adopt her as their daughter and heir after Wocky died - this doesn't seem like it would work. Was she planning on just walking off with stuff after he died, knowing that they'd be afraid to take her to court over it since they'd have to explain to a judge where everything came from if they did?]]
** [[spoiler: Well, if everything had gone to plan, she would have married him and would have become a Kitaki. Most likely, when he died, she would still be a Kitaki. Remember, if the plan had gone well, the Kitakis would have thought that she was just an innocent girl who loved a doomed man, I doubt they'd kick her out. All that would have remained would be to wait for her "parents" to die of old age, and she'd have all the money]]

* Why did [[spoiler: Alita Tiala]] confess to [[spoiler: breaking and entering into the clinic during the investigation]] in court? Apollo says, "confessing to the small crime to avoid the big one, eh," but there's no reason that confessing to that helped. I can see why the culprit had a hard time avoiding confessing to [[spoiler: being a bitch fiancee]] since that had already been proven, but confessing to the [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] didn't appear to be necessary and didn't help explain anything suspicious that had been brought up yet. My only guess is that the culprit expected that Apollo would figure out who was responsible for [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] and figured it was better to beat him to it.
** I kind of figured that [[spoiler:she admitted to breaking and entering just to back herself up if Apollo had come up with a weaker argument. She could have used something like "I just tried to steal the medical charts for Wocky's sake," as I think she mentioned something like being concerned about Wocky even after everyone realized she was a bitch fiancee. Or she probably thought that Apollo would just back down if she admitted to the breaking and entering.]]

* How did [[spoiler: Vera]] reproduce the diary page exactly, down to the torn side which Phoenix calls "a perfect match" to the tear in Magnifi's diary? It's pretty hard to rip a straight line down a piece of paper, let alone copy an uneven, random one in a diary you've never seen before.
** [[spoiler: Kristoph]] presumably showed her either the diary itself or a photograph of it. I think she even says that she was given the diary. She could have used scissors to reproduce the cut's exact shape, or made some kind of outline of it. In any case, it's implied that she's a prodigy.

* On the risk of being petty, but it bugged me ever since I replayed 4-4, how did the police ever come to the conclusion that Vera poisoned the RIM of the coffee mug? I mean, apart from the whole atroquinine-is-slow-acting contradiction, they (or at least, Ema) only found only a small stain of atroquinine residue on the rim of the mug in question. However, if I'd ever poison the rim of a coffee mug, I'd put the poison all over the rim to ensure that my victim would get the poison inside their body, and not just a small piece and hope that my victim would put their lips exactly over there. You would think at least someone involved with the investigation would have came up with this.
** Consider case 3-3's coffee mug stain and it's not an unreasonable conclusion. They believe the culprit is Vera, and if the mug has exactly one handle, she would know which side Drew would drink from based on which hand he would use to pick it up, and given that she lives with him, of course she would know this. If she -was- the culprit it wouldn't even matter if he switched it up on her because he still wouldn't discover the poison on the other end of the cup, so she could just try again if it came to it.
*** Makes sense, but even if Drew usually picked the cup up with the same hand, he'd still have to put his mouth on that exact spot. Yes, Vera probably wouldn't have to have (theoretically) put atroquinine on the ''whole'' rim, but still a bit more on whichever side she thinks he'd drink out of.

* In a conversation with Ema in 4-2, she mentions that the reason she came back to America to take the exam to become a forensic scientist was that "Mr. Wright and his people" helped her years ago. It makes me wonder who is Ema talking about when she says "his people"? By the time the player gets to 1-5, [[spoiler: Maya is already back in Kurain]] and there doesn't seem to be anyone else working in the Wright & Co Law Offices. So who is she talking about? Gumshoe?
** Well, given how chummy Phoenix is with Gumshoe and Edgeworth, maybe she meant them? Other than that, I don't have much of an idea either, though.

* During 4-1, why didn't [[spoiler: Kristoph]] simply tell everyone that [[spoiler: he'd seen "Shadi Smith's" bald head when he'd tipped his hat as they passed by after Gavin had left the club? This would have explained how he knew he was bald, without putting him AT the scene...]]
** Because then Phoenix or Apollo would probably demand that [[spoiler:Kristoph]] needs to show that [[spoiler:"Shadi Smith" tipped his hat when they passed]]. And Phoenix going "You have no proof" seemed to work well enough in [[spoiler:2-4 when the debate on whether or not Matt knew the suicide not was fake came up]].

* In 4-4, Klavier freaks out when he realizes that [[spoiler:Vera was the one who forged the evidence in Nick's last case]]. Okay. Understandable. But given how, in that case, [[spoiler:Valant was Klavier's main witness]], and a good chunk of what triggered Klavier's freak out was the fact that [[spoiler:Vera said the diary page was related to the Grammaryes]], shouldn't Klavier have felt uncomfortable [[spoiler:working with Valant in 4-3]]? Now, granted, it's been a little while since I've played 4-4, so I don't remember ''exactly'' how the scene went, but... at the very least, why didn't they seem to recognize each other?
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** My best guess is that [[spoiler: he was too weak to actually state her name. Now, I've never heard "Lamiroir" pronounced in real life, but it looks like it could take a great bit of effort for a man that got shot with a ReallyBigGun and was seconds away from death to actually say. On the other hand, "the siren" could be whispered with very little effort.]]

* What are Snackoos? Are they savoury, are they sweet, are they crunchy, are they chocolate? WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY?!

** Well, to be fair, at the time the body was discovered [[spoiler:nobody had known that Daryan was involved]], and they were too busy trying to find the body to pay attention to what [[spoiler:Daryan]] was doing, probably. Though I still have no idea why this didn't occur to anyone later on in the case...

* Why did [[spoiler: Alita Tiala]] confess to [[spoiler: breaking and entering into the clinic during the investigation]] in court? Apollo says, "confessing to the small crime to avoid the big one, eh," but there's no reason that confessing to that helped. I can see why the culprit had a hard time avoiding confessing to [[spoiler: being a bitch fiancée]] since that had already been proven, but confessing to the [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] didn't appear to be necessary and didn't help explain anything suspicious that had been brought up yet. My only guess is that the culprit expected that Apollo would figure out who was responsible for [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] and figured it was better to beat him to it.

** Plus, in AAI2, doesn't [[spoiler:Frank Sawhit]] show up as accomplice, and he gets [[spoiler:an extension on his jail time]]? This would seem to imply that [[spoiler:not all of the killers are actually getting the death sentence]], so it's possible that [[spoiler:Kristoph ''didn't'' get the death sentence for killing "Shadi Smith." He probably ''would'' get put on death row for Drew's death, or in the very least get a jail time extension, so he was trying to avoid that.]]

**** Also during the bits in the past we see, what would his friends be doing? I see no evidence to support the fact he's not hanging out with them inbetween those scenes, but we don't see that, we see his quest for justice which is more a personal thing and I can understand why he wouldn't bring anyone along for them except maybe Maya who as stated above is busy. Same as in the present, Phoenix is rarely in the office and we never see him when he's not on his "secret mission."
*** This Troper always believed (though a bit romantically) that Phoenix Wright figuired something was way off, and so passed along a messege to everyone that they were not to interfere... Or something along those lines.

* Ok, in the second case of Apollo Justice, Apollo says to Trucy that because of a case (case 5 of game 1) of Phoenix's that he read, he always checks the exhaust pipes of cars, to see if there's anything in there. However, if he knows the case so well, why, when he meets Ema Skye, does he not recognize the name? Even if he doesn't remember that she was a [[spoiler: witness]], he should at least remember that the defendant for that case was Lana Skye, and make the connection!

* This isn't so much a beef with the games as it is with a Headscratchers complaint. In Apollo Justice, with the MASON system, people complain that using [[spoiler: Kristoph's nail-polish]] in the 'present' to break Vera's Psychlock in the 'past' doesn't make sense. It appears everyone has forgotten that it's more-or-less a simulation of Phoenix's investigation and a tool to figure out the logic behind the investigation. The [[spoiler: nail-polish]] was most likely seen at Phoenix's disbarment and/or during his 'friendship' with [[spoiler: Kristoph]]. The future, the evidence is collected in the cell to show why it's important, and the one that Phoenix used against Vera was hers. As for the photo and the [[spoiler: truth about Apollo]], that is more up to debate, but odds are that Phoenix just found a file photo of Thalassa. As for why he was carrying it about? Perhaps he knew of the performance rights after all (no one said that the inner monologues were strickly Phoenix's or his at all).
** Also, you can examine areas with the MASON system just as you can without it, and [[spoiler:the bottle of nail polish]] is clearly visable on the table in Drew Studio. When you examine it, Drew spazzes and tells you not to touch it because it's Vera's and she will get very angry if you do. It doesn't take too much of a leap of faith to connect the "good luck charm" with [[spoiler:the bottle of nail polish]], even without knowing that [[spoiler:Kristoph uses the same brand]]. And the problem of using [[spoiler:Kristoph's bottle]]? An identical one is sitting right there on the table. Phoenix could've used [[spoiler:Vera's own bottle of nail polish]] to break her psyche-lock when he did the investigating for real.

* If the cacoons can't leave Borginia, what exactly stops the victims from going to Borgia for treatment?

*** It's shown that [[spoiler: Lamiroir is part of Troupe Gramarye, and became Lamiroir in some bizarre circumstances. Since it's never explicitedly stated where the Troupe were from originally]], she could perfectly well be from whatever country this game is set (Japan, US, etc).

* I'm suprised that such a blatant contradiction hasn't come up yet. So, Zak decides to [[spoiler:not hire Kristoph]]. Why? Because he's able to see his "true nature" through poker, or at least during the game. Fair enough, considering all the rest I'm supposed to buy in Apollo Justice, that's pretty dang logical. Yet, when Zak plays Phoenix years later, [[spoiler:after Phoenix has been disbarred and shamed because of the sole fact that Zak wouldn't even bother to TELL Phoenix that he had the last page of Magnifi's diary]], what does he do? [[spoiler:HE CHEATS.]] So, what was that you were saying about "true nature" Zak, you hypocrite?

**** There is evidence that Apollo recognises [[spoiler:Thalassa]] on some level. Think back to what he thinks when he meets [[spoiler:her]] during [[spoiler:case 3]]:

* How did Lamiroir wake up in Borginia [[spoiler:after being shot]] when the group was probably in America/Japan during the rehersal?

** It bugs me that this bugs everyone. Phoenix has every ''right'' to be cocky. He just beat [[spoiler: Dahlia Hawthorne and Godot]], closing the book on one of the biggest unfinished parts of his life in the process and finally surpassed his mentor as well. ''Plus,'' Klavier was a complete greenhorn. For the first time, Phoenix wasn't going up against some super-experienced prosecutor (yes, Godot had never prosecuted before, but he was by no means a newbie). Of course Phoenix would be a little cocky. Regarding Klavier, he's a seventeen-year-old rockstar who managed to pass the bar. That's ''three years'' before Miles Edgeworth, who was famous for being a prosecuting prodigy. If he was acting humble, I'd declare that some pretty gross CharacterDerailment. As for Gumshoe... okay, I don't really have an explanation. Maybe he got a raise after State v. Iris and it went to his head?

** Also consider that [[spoiler:she had signed a Non-Disclosure Agreement regarding her "teleportation" trick, and indicating that she had travelled through the ventilation tunnels might have given away too many details about the trick.]]

** I'm a native French speaker, but I spend all my time either on English forums or listening to English shows, and I often fumble with words in my native tongue that I know in english but can't remember in french until someone guesses right based on my description. And before someone asks, yes, I am otherwise entirely natural-sounding, there's just some words that I ''know'' I know but can't recall on the spot. I'd say Lamiroir doing the same can be excused considering she learned Borginian and probably wasn't exposed to English frequently.

* Ok, in the second case of Apollo Justice, Apollo says to Trucy that because of a case (case 5 of game 1) of Phoenix's that he read, he always checks the exhaust pipes of cars, to see if there's anything in there. However, if he knows the case so well, why, when he meets Ema Skye, does he not recognise the name? Even if he doesn't remember that she was a [[spoiler: witness]], he should at least remember that the defendant for that case was Lana Skye, and make the connection!

** Or Ema's name was witheld frome the public because she was a minor.

** Not too sure about this, but who says the Gavinners weren't performing during Lamiloir's big number? Maybe what they meant in the games texts is that they weren't on the spotlight, but if you think about it... During the "Guilty Love" performance shown in the mix machine there are five instruments playing (main guitar (Gavin), second guitar (Daryan), bass, synth and drums). In Lamiroir's performance there are five instruments as well (Gavin, Lamiroir, Machi, bass and drums). Assuming that bass and drums in Lamiroir's performance are the same people that in Guilty Love (why would you hire random people if it can be perfectly be played by them?) that would leave only Daryan and synth guy as suspects. But Synth guy didn't show up during any part of the case.

** He probably knew that Phoenix had figured out his role in [[spoiler: his disbarrment. He probably didn't want Phoenix to reveal the circumstances of his disbarrment and get his job back. He's a petty CompleteMonster.]]

* [[spoiler:Kristoph's black Psyche-Locks. Just... Kristoph's black Psyche-Locks.]] Is there any evidence you can show to him that provokes a reaction that isn't losing your health, for more Psyche-Lock dialogue or [[spoiler:are they really permanently locked because the only thing that would advance the unlock is the bottle of Atroquinine]], which advances the plot? I want to know if I really missed something or it's just a very convincing red herring.
** There is no way to [[spoiler: unlock them]] in the game.

* Why did [[spoiler: Alita Tiala]] confess to [[spoiler: breaking and entering into the clinic during the investigation]] in court? Apollo says, "confessing to the small crime to avoid the big one, eh," but there's no reason that confessing to that helped. I can see why the culprit had a hard time avoiding confessing to [[spoiler: being a bitch fiancé]] since that had already been proven, but confessing to the [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] didn't appear to be necessary and didn't help explain anything suspicious that had been brought up yet. My only guess is that the culprit expected that Apollo would figure out who was responsible for [[spoiler: breaking and entering]] and figured it was better to beat him to it.

* On the risk of being petty, but it bugged me ever since I replayed 4-4, how did the police ever come to the conclusion that Vera poisoned the RIM of the coffee mug? I mean, apart from the whole Atroquinine-is-slow-acting contradiction, they (or at least, Ema) only found only a small stain of atroquinine residue on the rim of the mug in question. However, if I'd ever poison the rim of a coffee mug, I'd put the poison all over the rim to ensure that my victim would get the poison inside their body, and not just a small piece and hope that my victim would put their lips exactly over there. You would think at least someone involved with the investigation would have came up with this.

* What are snackoos? Are they savoury, are they sweet, are they crunchy, are they chocolate? WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY?!

* Considering Trucy's father is [[spoiler: [[AmbiguouslyBrown Zak Gramarye]] ]]why is she not the slightest bit tan. I don't get how she could possibly be that pale.

** It's also possible that [[spoiler: Zak Gramarye]] has an acquired tan.

* What exactly is [[spoiler: Kristoph]] trying to accomplish during the last trial day of 4-4? I mean, [[spoiler: he had already been convicted of killing "Shadi Smith," thereby receiving life in prison and possibly even the death penalty eventually. What good will ensuring that he is not indicted for another murder going to do? Even if he ensured Vera's guilty verdict and thereby got rid of the last person who could rat him out for his evidence forgery, ''he's still a convicted murderer locked up for life''. What's the point of trying to protect your reputation when your reputation has already been ruined by your cold-blooded killing of another man? Is Kristoph just a troll/griefer who enjoys stomping all over Phoenix's and Apollo's efforts, even when he really has nothing to gain from it?]]

* In case 4 of ''Apollo Justice'', you are unable to use the letter from Misham to prove [[spoiler: Kristoph's connection to the victim]], because it's just a copy created by Phoenix. Why was it not possible to obtain the real letter? [[spoiler: Kristoph is in solitary confinement for murder. Is it not possible to just ask that his mail be confiscated?]]
** By that point, [[spoiler:Kristoph]] should have most likely destroyed the letter already, it'd be futile to try to get the original by then. [[spoiler: Also he is in solitary confinement. But by his choice, and lives in luxury. As much as he can anyway.]]

** His Piano playing job is just a cover, he is a professional Poker player that attracts clients and gambles to the Borscht Bowl Club.
** He can play a little, so I guess he once took lessons (maybe as a kid) wasn't that good at it but he thought that would be a good idea for his gambling side job.

* Why does [[spoiler: Kristoph's hair become normal again once he starts laughing at the end of his Super Saiyan breakdown? Is it to show how creepy he is?]]

*** It may be hard to find a [[spoiler: surgeon]] who can handle a case like that (and take time to come up with enough clean money to pay for it), but you'd think that they would have gotten the [[spoiler: operation]] much earlier if they had known. On the other hand, while this may contradict some in-game dialogue, it's possible that they went clean because of the injury itself ("the gangster life did this to you") and the need for [[spoiler: clean money]] just reinforced that decision.

* In Case 3, why does nobody think it odd that [[spoiler:Machi is discovered unresponsive, apparently unconscious, beside a body he'd likely have never been able to move on his own, certainly not in the time he had available]]? At least, given [[spoiler:his scramble to get away from the body when he walks in on Apollo]], it's highly unlikely that [[spoiler:he'd have just lain there waiting for the hammer to fall]], no matter what his co-conspirator [[spoiler:Daryan]] said, so [[spoiler:Daryan probably needed to subdue him - not difficult, but certainly conspicuous]]!

* What's the deal with [[spoiler:Kristoph's black Psyche-Locks?]] Are they ever broken? When I played through 4-4 and finished the MASON system part, I realized I never had a chance to break them. Was i supposed to? I mean, these things are new and were never in the Phoenix arc, and yet here they are and are never mentioned again.

*** Any discussion of why the psyche-locks are [[spoiler: a different color]] is going to have to involve some speculation. In any case, the game doesn't even let you [[spoiler: enter an unlock sequence]] and the person in question arguably guards his secrets more tightly than any other character, so the most common interpretation can be be supported.

* This may be a bit picky, but something bugged me when we met Eldoon. The guy says that he used to serve Phoenix and his assistant 'back in his lawyer days,' but then later, during the investigation, he reveals that he's only been doing the noodle stand thing for, what, a year? Unless he's using the MASON system to time-travel like a salt-broth-wielding Time Lord, I think not.

**** The court also has absurdly high standerds of evidence required to convict anyone other than the defendant. If you doubt this, check up on 2-1, when the Judge says that if Phoenix can't prove the witness's motive the defendant will be found guilty even though the only piece of evidence the prosecution still has that could implicate her implicates the witness just as much. So basically, as the Judge puts it: "Common citizens have something called common sense" which is otherwise completely absent from the court.

** This troper was confused by the entire idea that [[spoiler:Apollo doesn't know who Troupe Gramyre is even though they are his family]] So I looked back in the game. Here is the story: [[spoiler:Thalassa, part of the troupe, married another performer. She went off with him for a year and had Apollo. Her husband died, she gave up the baby for adoption, came back to the troupe and pretended nothing happened. She then married Zak and had Trucy before getting shot when Trucy was around four.]]
*** This troper agrees with this theory, mostly because [[spoiler: Zak seemed surprised when you mention that Thallasa had a son.]]

** [[spoiler:Magnifi probably smuggled her out of the country to maintain the illusion that she was dead and so his hold on Zak and Valant. He's the sort of person to know people that could take care of here there.]]
** [[spoiler:That's an unsolved mystery with no currently known answer, which means that it'll probably be resolved in a sequel, Apollo's backstory isn't done for yet.]]

* In ''Apollo Justice'', why is Romein [[spoiler: so cryptic about who the witness is? She has a name, there was no need for all that 'siren' business.]]

* Why didn't Zak [[spoiler: just show Phoenix that page in the first place?]] Think of all the misery that would have prevented.

*** To answer my own question, it was because if showing that page failed to clear him, then [[spoiler: it would be entered into evidence and he would have to make his escape without it, so Trucy would lose all chance of ever inheriting Magnifi's tricks.]]

* The false diary page. That page was clearly the result of a lot of painstaking, time-consuming work: the perfectly-researched handwriting, the proper page size and writing style, the tear made ''exactly'' to fit the missing page from the diary, etc. A work like that must have taken at least several days. So why does Phoenix not bring up the most obvious evidence as to his innocence? He hadn't been assigned as Zak's attourney until ''the day of the trial''! He had no time to have that page commissioned, and he had no motive to do it when he ''had'' time. If anything, the page should have implicated [[spoiler:Khristoph]], since he was Zak's lawyer until he got fired a day before the trial.
** Unfortunately, as revealed in the trial day afterward, defense attorneys are apparently not registered until the day before the trial. There is absolutely no proof that Phoenix hadn't been Zak's lawyer for weeks, just as there was no proof that [[spoiler:Kristoph]] was ever his lawyer. [[spoiler:Until Klavier admitted it.]] Contrived but consistent.

* In Turnabout Corner: [[spoiler: why doesn't Dr. Pal Meraktis bother verifying if Alita Tiala is really dead? He's a doctor, and I assume he would be able to tell the difference between a corpse and an unconscious person.]]

** Unless Vera was someone with a bad personality, along with of having no qualms with killing another person, on top of being a complete monster with deep dark secrets, like Kristoph was I don't think there was a reason for her locks to be [[spoiler: black]].
*** [[spoiler: Kristoph's black Psyche-locks]] are mentioned as having a great deal of cold despair about them. Vera hasn't developed anywhere near that level of hopelessness.

* Is the point of the Jurist System to raise the standards that are required for conviction, or lower them? Because it seemed like in case 3 of Apollo Justice, the point being made was that [[spoiler: Daryan]] is obviously the killer, but because the legal system is faulty, he can't be convicted except by [[spoiler: wearing down Machi's reluctance to testify]]. However, in the final case, you never see whether or not [[spoiler: Kristoph]] is convicted by a jury, all you do see is that Vera is acquitted by one. The thing is that Ace Attorney's legal system is ''not'' flawed because it's too difficult to convict the guilty, it's because it's too easy to convict the innocent. You'd think that the reason why Apollo would've been getting up in arms in case 3 is not that [[spoiler: Daryan]] is too hard to convict, but that Machi is too hard to acquit even though he's such an improbable suspect.

* How did Lamiroir wake up in Borgonia [[spoiler:after being shot]] when the group was probably in America/Japan during the rehersal?

* How was Phoenix allowed to adopt Trucy? He had just lost his job (no income), was proven to be an AmoralAttorney (bad role model) and persumable single (no female role model for a growing girl).
** It's been a while since I played, but suppose that off-camera (Or off-[=DS=] screen) Zak gave a sealed envelope to Phoenix and told him not to open it until after the trial. Said letter naming Phoenix as Trucy's legal guardian. Not sure if this would work in reality, but it'd wouldn't be the first time the law system in Phoenix Wright made its own rules.
** Actually the sealed letter contained information legally passing on all of Troupe Gramyere's secrets to Trucy that would take effect 7 years after her father was legally declared dead.

* Wait a minute. Aside from Klavier, the Gavinners weren't performing during Lamiroir's big number, right? So how did [[spoiler:none of them (aside from Daryan) hear the gunshots during her performance? The song was sedate, and their dressing room was next door!]]
** It's possible that they [[spoiler:were watching the performance instead of hanging out in the dressing room. Hey, it's a once-in-a-lifetime occurence and I'd want to stick around to see it too.]] Although, if that's the case, why did [[spoiler:none of them think Daryan's absence would be odd]]?
** Not too sure about this, but who says the Gavinners weren't performing during Lamiloir's big number?? Maybe what they meant in the games texts is that they weren't on the spotlight, but if you think about it... During the "Guilty love" performance shown in the mix machine there are five instruments playing (Main guitar (Gavin), Second guitar (Daryan), bass, synth and drums). In Lamiloir's performance there are five instruments as well (Gavin, Lamiloir, Machi, bass and drums). Assuming that bass and drums in Lamiloir's performance are the same people that in Guilty Love (why would you hire random people if it can be perfectly be played by them??) that would leave only Daryan and synth guy as suspects. But Synth guy didn't show up during any part of the case.

* Also, Apollo finds a switch in the piano. It ignites a device under the couch in the dressing room, most likely to trigger a few small explosives. Yet we're meant to believe that [[spoiler:Machi left the switch in the piano after using it to ignite the cocoon (and guitar). He pressed it during Lamiroir's song. Yet the explosives went off during the Gavinner's next set. Huh?]]
** [[spoiler:Machi left it in the piano presumably because he didn't had any other place to leave it in, and could be well carrying it with him, and the explosives that went off during Gavinner's next set were activated by Daryan himself when he heard Ema and Apollo talking just next to the dressing room Letouse was in, to create the alibi.]]

* I'm suprised that such a blatant contradiction hasn't come up yet. So, Zak decides to [[spoiler: Not hire Kristoph]]. Why? Because he's able to see his "true nature" through poker, or at least during the game. Fair enough, considering all the rest I'm supposed to buy in Apollo Justice, that's pretty dang logical. Yet, when Zak plays Phoenix years later, [[spoiler:after Phoenix has been disbarred and shamed because of the sole fact that he wouldn't even bother to TELL Phoenix that he had the last page of Magnifi's diary?]], what does he do? [[spoiler: HE CHEATS.]] So, what was that you were saying about "true nature" Zak, you hypocrite?
** Yeah, Zak is a Jerk, we know it...but to be fair, he didn't actually cheat the game, he put up a situation in which the outcome out the game wasn't that he would win, but to make it look as if Phoenix was the one that had cheated, which would ruin his reputation, and put him out of a job and wouldn't have any money to keep raising his adopted daughter...that was much worse than hypocrisy.
*** The MASON system in 4-4 showing Phoenix and Zak to be fairly good buddies tells me that it's probably a case of UnfortunateImplications that the writers didn't fully think through... But those are still some pretty damn unfortunate implications.

* The false diary page in ''Apollo Justice''. That page was clearly the result of a lot of painstaking, time-consuming work: the perfectly-researched handwriting, the proper page size and writing style, the tear made ''exactly'' to fit the missing page from the diary, etc. A work like that must have taken at least several days. So why does Phoenix not bring up the most obvious evidence as to his innocence? He hadn't been assigned as Zak's attourney until ''the day of the trial''! He had no time to have that page commissioned, and he had no motive to do it when he ''had'' time. If anything, the page should have implicated [[spoiler:Khristoph]], since he was Zak's lawyer until he got fired a day before the trial.

* It's a casual thing to suggest asking the Borgian Government to give a caccon up to test residue from burning it, but completely impossible for a major politician to ask for one when the news shows he has legitimate need.
** Who says the Borginians "gave up" a coccoon? They could have burned it while it was in Borginia. Then, they could have either sent the residue (if the residue cannot be used to make the [[spoiler: poison]]) or described it in detail.

* If the cacoons can't leave Borgia, what exactly stops the victims from going to Borgia for treatment?
** I think that there's nothing to stop it, but it's because of that there are so few people outside Borgia who know the power of the cocoon. Lamiroir doesn't know why it was banned for smuggling outside of the country when she's supposedly citizen of Borgia; if a citizen doesn't know much, what do you expect of foreigners?

** In addition to the public being generally clueless about the cocoons, we don't know much about Incuritis. Perhaps Incuritis afflicts the body so badly that leaving the country has a chance of mortality around the same as the doctors deciding to have a competition of "who can knock off the most body parts with an oxygen tank".

* Why was Lamoir considered an appropriate jurist in the final case of ''Apollo Justice''? I mean, leaving aside that [[spoiler:the defense attorney and his assistant are her children]], which wasn't common knowledge, there's still the fact that she has very close ties one of Apollo's previous cases and was very much sympathetic to him. Did no one besides Phoenix vet the jurists? Anyone else should have picked up on that bias in about three seconds. Even she was questioning whether she was qualified to serve!

*** It's shown that [[spoiler: Lamiroir is part of Trope Gramyre, and turned into Lamiroir in some bizarre circumstances. Since it's never explicitedly stated where the Trope were from originally, she could perfectly well be from whatever country this game is set (Japan, America etc).]]
** I wish people would pay attention to what is said... Listen, Lamoir herself says to Phoenix about this. She asks to talk to Phoenix and says something like: "...it says in the Jurist handbook that "no jurists may be connected to the case". Phoenix replies by saying something like: "I've checked all your backgrounds. None of you were involved in the investigation or bring up of the case." This is what the ACTUAL American Jury system states. It doesn't matter if a jurist is connected to one of the lawyers or anything presides being involved in the ACTUAL INVESTIGATION. In other words, the only rule saying that a person can't be a jurist member is if they were involved in the case on trial, not the lawyers or anything else.
** It's possible that Phoenix was able to prove that she was [[spoiler: from the country the game is set in]] without revealing to members of the legal system that [[spoiler: she's Apollo's mother]].

* In the 4th game's flashback case, why didn't Phoenix [[spoiler: bring up the fact that he couldn't possibly have had the time to have a forgery made in time for the case, and suggest a search for the real client?]]

* In case 2 of Apollo Justice, one of the big twists is that [[spoiler: the murderer shot from inside the noodle stand.]] Yet wouldn't this have left a bullet hole in [[spoiler: the front side of the noodle stand?]]. They spend so much time debating where the murderer must've stood to kill the doctor, yet (when factoring in the entry wound) it should've been clear before the trial even began!

* At the end of 4-4, Phoenix simply tells the jurors to vote "Innocent" or "Guilty", [[spoiler: not something "Push the left button for innocent, and the right for guilty." Juror 6's buttons aren't Braille labeled.]] Juror 6 is then revealed to be [[spoiler:Lamiroir, who is blind]].

** Going back to the implications of the first rebuttal [[spoiler:I believe she says something to the tune of "I read in the handbook that [such and such]", signaling her eyes were working just fine now]].

* Case 4-3. [[spoiler: So if the Borginian Cocoon Daryan smuggled over was burned, and there's super-strict export laws on them...are we to assume the Chief Justice's son died of Incuritis after the case?]]
** I guess so, unless [[spoiler: the case highlighted the ridiculousness of the Borginian cocoon laws enough for people to get really incensed about it to the point where Borginian law was forced to change, or there was residue left in Gavin's guitar case that retained the healing properties.]]
** [[spoiler: Alternatively to the above theory, Borginia could have simply sent over some of the already-created remedy.]] It's been a while since I played, but I'm pretty sure that would work, even if they'd be a bit reluctant to do so.
* This isn't so much a beef with the games as it is with a It Just Bugs Me complaint. In Apollo Justice, with the MASON system, people complain that using [[spoiler: Kristoph's nail-polish]] in the 'present' to break Vera's Psychlock in the 'past' doesn't make sense. It appears everyone has forgotten that it's more-or-less a simulation of Phoenix's investigation and a tool to figure out the logic behind the investigation. The [[spoiler: nail-polish]] was most likely seen at Phoenix's disbarment and/or during his 'friendship' with [[spoiler: Kristoph]]. The future, the evidence is collected in the cell to show why it's important, and the one that Phoenix used against Vera was hers. As for the photo and the [[spoiler: truth about Apollo]], that is more up to debate, but odds are that Phoenix just found a file photo of Thalassa. As for why he was carrying it about? Perhaps he knew of the performance rights after all (no one said that the inner monologues were strickly Phoenix's or his at all).

* In ''Apollo Justice'',how was Phoenix allowed to adopt Trucy?He had just lost his job (no income),was proven to be an AmoralAttorney (bad rolemodel) and persumable single (no female role model for a growing girl).

* In Apollo Justice, Turnabout Corner: [[spoiler: why doesn't Dr. Pal Meraktis bother verifying if Alita Tiala is really dead? He's a doctor, and I assume he would be able to tell the difference between a corpse and an unconscious person.]]

*** This troper agrees with this theory, mostly because [[spoiler: Zak seemed surprised when you mention that Thallasa had a son]]

* AA 4 spoiler. [[spoiler: A certain famous magician mysteriously disappears. Several years later, an equally famous musician with a mysterious past and amnesia appears out of nowhere. How come not one person has ever noticed that these two people look identical?]]

** Phoenix has taken on plenty of prodigy prosecutors during his time, namely Edgeworth, Godot, and the von Karmas who are all presumably better than Klavier (and more experienced when Phoenix faced them). He's confident in his skills and I think mentions that Klavier is just the new "prodigy" that the prosecution office is selling. as stated, Klavier is a rock star who just got his first hit and is getting his ego boosted further by the fact that the prosecutor's office is praising him as a prodigy and putting him against Wright, probably the best defense attorney in the "US." Gumshoe didn't seem that cocky to me but rather more playfully edging Wright on. Wright is his rival in the courtroom (although they have worked on the same side many times) and Gumshoe wants to get his win.

** I'm a native french speaker, but I spend literally all my time either on english forums or listening to english shows, and I often fumble with words in my native tongue that I know in english but can't remember in french until someone guesses right based on my description. And before someone asks, yes, I am otherwise entirely natural-sounding, there's just some words that I ''know'' I know but can't recall on the spot. I'd say Lamiroir doing the same can be excused considering she learned Borginian and probably wasn't exposed to english frequently.

** Or Emas' name was witheld frome the public because she was a minor.

*** For the record, [[spoiler: He dumped Kristoph as a defense attorney because he knew Kristoph was a twisted bastard, not because he lost at poker.]]
**** [[spoiler:I agree. It is explained in the game that Zak judged Kristoph not because he lost, but by how he acted in a competition. Zak believed you can tell a man's true nature by how he acts in a competition.]]
**** [[spoiler: Zak also tells Nick before their "rematch" that he wasn't quite as good at reading people as his wife was (a trait that would be passed on to Apollo and Trucy), but implied that he still had some knack for it. So it's quite possible that Zak saw exactly what Apollo did during that last Perception shot; Vera called it "the devil", I call it damn creepy. How would Zak have seen it during a poker game? Consider how you'd hold your hand in front of you during a game of cards, then look at how Kristoph adjusts his glasses.]]

**** Those performance rights are almost as big of cause of trouble as the village master position in Phoenix's trilogy.

** My best guess is that [[spoiler: he was too weak to actually state her name. Now, I've never heard "Lamoir" pronounced in real life, but it looks like it could take a great bit of effort for a man that got shot with a ReallyBigGun and was seconds away from death to actually say. On the other hand, "the siren" could be whispered with very little effort.]]
** Plus, [[spoiler: Lamoir's name literally is "siren". Romein had supposedly learned English as a second language, so it's possible he reverted back to his native tongue as his brain functions ceased]].

** He's a massive jerk? [[spoiler: he possibly shoots his wife, steals his partner's future, rejects a perfectly competent defense attorney because he can't play poker, abandons his child, promising to come back but never does, and then when he shows up 7 years latter, not to see his child or apologize, but to play poker! That he cheats at!]] Gah! What a jerk!

* When did Phoenix acquire the ability to transport evidence across space and time? In the last case of Apollo Justice, [[spoiler:when you have the ability to look in both the past and the present to see the evidence that Phoenix has collected, Phoenix presents evidence that he can't possibly have at the time he presents it, and draws conclusions based on knowledge he will have in the future. For example, the picture of Trucy's mother that you get from Valant Grammyre? You use it to break Zak's Psyche lock SIX MONTHS EARILER! I should probably stress that you get the picture after Zak DIES! And then there's the whole thing with Vera. How does "seven years ago" Phoenix have any clue that the bottle on the desk could possibly be Vera's good luck charm? If it was in the present, I would be fine with it, but our Phoenix hasn't seen that bottle before in his life. Also, why does "seven years ago" Phoenix know to suggest Kristoph as Vera's secret client? He has no reason to suspect Kristoph at that time, not until the events seven years later, when he sees that bottle of nail polish in Kristoph's cell? It boggles the mind!]]

*** [[spoiler: OK, so how did Phoenix learn what Zak would've said? And what would be the point to him using a "logic simulation", rather then it being a recording from the camera in the [=PaPa=] cap?]]

** Here's my theory. [[spoiler: first off, with the nail polish, Phoenix knew Gavin before he talked to Vera, as he presumably saw him with that distinctive type of nail polish. Also, when you present the picture of Thallasa, you only talk about seeing a kid with bracelets who has a similar power to Trucy, which he could have done before talking to Zak. As for how Phoenix knew about Thallasa's first husband... Well, it's possible that Valant told him that.]] Long story short, any evidence we present that Phoenix shouldn't have he actually got elsewhere.