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** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy main character, Captain Jian Huang.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy main character, Captain Jian Huang.
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** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an a eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified asan a eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy main character, Captain Jian Huang.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as
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** Ming Dynasty using the flag of Qing DynastyDynasty, although this ties in more with the devs wanting to use something which at least existed in real life, instead of conjuring a fictional flag out of thin air. Heraldry as it existed in the West was non-existent in China; even the Qing flag used was created after the Qing Empire's contact with the West.
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** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
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** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield Enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
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** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
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** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge knowledge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
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** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy main character, Admiral Jinhai.
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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy main character, Admiral Jinhai.Captain Jian Huang.
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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.
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*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, main character, Admiral Jinhai.
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*** Except... it is the early 15th century, Latin America doesn't exist, and the Chinese can't care less about Europe even if they knew more about it than the fact that it exists. The likely explanation is that it was some twisted way to deny the traitor prince a legacy.
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*** People are weird like that. They were more mad about the fact that the British were being assholes about their objections than about the reason of their objections.
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*** The best explanation is that they figured it would be ironic revenge.
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* Basically the entire China campaign in AOEIII. Let's see...
** Ming Dynasty using the flag of Qing Dynasty
** Zheng He's fleet discovered America. Yes, some do claim it in RealLife, but going to America through Africa and Atlantic Ocean is pushing it quite a bit.
** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.
** At the end of the campaign, Zheng's men somehow managed to erase their existence on America. Technical problems, like how exactly is it possible, aside, why would they do so? I know the Chinese are not into the colony business, but... why?
*** The Chinese didn't want to accidentally tip the balance of things in Latin America. And can you imagine what will happen if the Europeans reaching the New World finds Chinese Artifacts? History in that timeline will be proven that if one just keeps going east, you will find China. Look on the bright side, at least spices can be cultivated...
** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
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** Ming Dynasty using the flag of Qing Dynasty
** Zheng He's fleet discovered America. Yes, some do claim it in RealLife, but going to America through Africa and Atlantic Ocean is pushing it quite a bit.
** After the aforementioned discoveries, the evil eunuch allied with the native Americans and tried to build his own empire. Communication problems aside, the idea of an eunuch building an Empire is just over the top.
*** You got that wrong. The bad guy was an [[TheEvilPrince evil prince]]. No one was identified as an eunuch, but if there was one it was probably the Zheng-He expy maincharacter, Admiral Jinhai.
** At the end of the campaign, Zheng's men somehow managed to erase their existence on America. Technical problems, like how exactly is it possible, aside, why would they do so? I know the Chinese are not into the colony business, but... why?
*** The Chinese didn't want to accidentally tip the balance of things in Latin America. And can you imagine what will happen if the Europeans reaching the New World finds Chinese Artifacts? History in that timeline will be proven that if one just keeps going east, you will find China. Look on the bright side, at least spices can be cultivated...
** The Indian campaign made a big deal of the soldiers not wanting to use the pork/beef fat loaded cartridges for the enfield rifles. The protagonist also refuses to use the rifle. Until he is ordered to by his British commander. Whom he then attempts to shoot. And the sepoys all pick up their rifles and fire on the British with the same rifles they refused to use moments earlier. What?
** Also, the Montezuma campaign in AOEII, which ends with the Aztecs driving the Spanish away and rebuilding their civilisation. Yeah, ''that's not how it happened.''
*** The campaigns all end well for the people youre playing as, they are supposed to be alternate histories.
*** Actually, this troper always thought the ending implied they were wiped out anyway.
*** Yup, pretty much it says: Yes, we pushed out the spaniards this time.... but what will we do when they'll come back again?
*** The aztec empire appears in AOEIII and the spaniards are still trying to conquer it, so maybe is just an alternate history where Cortes was defeated.
*** It's not the only campaign that ends with the player winning a battle that was lost in real history. The other two are William Wallace winning the Battle of Falkirk and Frederic Barbarossa taking Jerusalem.
* All the FarEast civilizations in AOEIII need to build particular building to advance to the next age. No big deal, but the idea that the Confucius academy produce ''siege engines'' makes no sense.
** It's an abstraction of your civilization gaining the general level of knowladge and organised scholarship needed to sustain a complex siegeworks industry.
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