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** Evelyn was supposed to give birth in the soundproof room in the basement, not in the bathtub she was hiding in because one of the creatures was stalking nearby. Thr fireworks were an emergency contingency that was supposed to lure them away for a short amount of time, not the original plan. Also, labor can progress more quickly in subsequent pregnancies, so Evelyn (reaching the end of her *fourth* pregnancy) just progressed fast enough that she was able to give birth while the fireworks were going.

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** Evelyn was supposed to give birth in the soundproof room in the basement, not in the bathtub she was hiding in because one of the creatures was stalking nearby. Thr The fireworks were an emergency contingency that was supposed to lure them away for a short amount of time, not the original plan. Also, labor can progress more quickly in subsequent pregnancies, so Evelyn (reaching the end of her *fourth* pregnancy) just progressed fast enough that she was able to give birth while the fireworks were going.going.

!!'''Where does their electricity come from?'''
* It couldn't be a generator since that's way too loud, but I didn't see any solar panels.
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** It wasn't just sticking upwards the whole time. It was bent over the surface of the board until Evelyn accidentally straightened it out when she tugged on it with her stuck bag. As for it's original purpose - perhaps that particular board was reused from another project and the carpenter forgot to remove the nail from the board until they had finished the staircase, and decided to pound the nail down into the board rather than start over. After the aliens took over, the Abbots really didn't have a good way of fixing the problem and so it was just an accident waiting to happen.
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* Both the parents and Regan may have just assumed Beau was too little to know what batteries ''are'', not realizing he'd observed how they're needed to make flashlights and other things work.




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* Untacked rugs can become a tripping hazard. Take a tumble on a loose rug, and you get noise. Try to tack them down, and you get a ''lot'' of noise. Glue might work, but you better lay the material flawlessly, or you'll get wrinkles and be stuck with ''more'' tripping hazards.
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* Labors can last for ''hours''. What kind of fireworks last that long? And I'm sorry if it might sound callous, but wasn't the obvious solution to gag Evelyn?

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* Labors can last for ''hours''. What kind of fireworks last that long? And I'm sorry if it might sound callous, but wasn't the obvious solution to gag Evelyn?Evelyn?
** Evelyn was supposed to give birth in the soundproof room in the basement, not in the bathtub she was hiding in because one of the creatures was stalking nearby. Thr fireworks were an emergency contingency that was supposed to lure them away for a short amount of time, not the original plan. Also, labor can progress more quickly in subsequent pregnancies, so Evelyn (reaching the end of her *fourth* pregnancy) just progressed fast enough that she was able to give birth while the fireworks were going.
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\n** Sand doesn't... crunch when you walk on it. Walking on pavement in barefeet in the summer hurts. They literally show a scene in which Lee is re-sanding on of the trails. He put sand in a bag and poured it out. Silently, because it's sand.

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*** Sure, and Evelyn could have carried him, too, since her hands were free. Like she said. They're human and they made a mistake. That's the point.
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** Well, throughout the the entire film, it's noted that it's not so much the sounds themselves but how ''loud'' said sounds are. Lee yelling was louder than the truck being driven (or pushed)

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** Well, throughout the the entire film, it's noted that it's not so much the sounds themselves but how ''loud'' said sounds are. Lee yelling was louder than the truck being driven (or pushed)pushed)


!!'''How is sand supposed to help?'''
* A. Sand crunches underfeet. How is it supposed to be quiter than walking over soil or even pavement barefoot? B. How is it possible that sand isn't blown away by wind or washed away by rain? Do they have to constantly renew the trails? How can they do it without making noise? C. They have to walk across a wooden bridge. Covered with sand or not, the planks would creak anyway.


!!'''What is up with the nail?'''
* Why would there be a nail driven into the middle of a stair step, ''facing upwards''? Who would even put it there, how (from beneath the stairs) and why?

!!'''How were the fireworks supposed to work?'''
* Labors can last for ''hours''. What kind of fireworks last that long? And I'm sorry if it might sound callous, but wasn't the obvious solution to gag Evelyn?

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** The way I saw it was that they had no way of being sure the aliens were in the area, so they were covering all their bases. The closer you are to something, the more the noise is going to register with you. An extremely loud noise tells the alien some prey is nearby, so they'll be listening out for smaller sounds that could give their prey away. And maybe more mundanely, the aliens have varying degrees of hearing like people in real life. Some have better hearing than others, so maybe the family just got lucky that the aliens with worse hearing were the ones nearby when smaller sounds were made.
** And if you want to interpret it as the same creature that's in the third act, it got hurt by Regan's hearing aid in the field - so perhaps that messed with its hearing for a little while.
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* Condensing the problems with all of the above: ensuring the survival of the human legacy seems a week excuse to produce a child in the type of world run by murderous sound-driven monsters; children under a certain age are simply too young to understand the gravity and will invariably get themselves and others killed; the Abbots had no excuse to try and bring yet another child into the picture after having seen the proof with Beau. Infants, especially, are flat-out ''impossible'' to keep quiet at all times. The world has been deprived of medical professionals nearby who can ease the naturally loud and dangerous processes of birth, nevermind abortion. Producing new children in this movie is the ultimate IdiotBall move, on top of how difficult it is to even conceptualize it happening--there's no "accidental" pregnancies in a world in which even sex could be suicidally dangerous--they both had to have been ''incredibly'' quiet during the act, on ''top'' of not wearing or taking protection.

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* Condensing the problems with all of the above: ensuring the survival of the human legacy seems a week weak excuse to produce a child in the type of world run by murderous sound-driven monsters; children under a certain age are simply too young to understand the gravity and will invariably get themselves and others killed; the Abbots had no excuse to try and bring yet another child into the picture after having seen the proof with Beau. Infants, especially, are flat-out ''impossible'' to keep quiet at all times. The world has been deprived of medical professionals nearby who can ease the naturally loud and dangerous processes of birth, nevermind abortion. Producing new children in this movie is the ultimate IdiotBall move, on top of how difficult it is to even conceptualize it happening--there's no "accidental" pregnancies in a world in which even sex could be suicidally dangerous--they both had to have been ''incredibly'' quiet during the act, on ''top'' of not wearing or taking protection.
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* Presumably, just a will to give humanity the best chance of surviving by raising as much offspring as possible. Bear in mind that with the agricultural and a-bit-primitive life they seem to carry on you may draw analogies to the past or even present countryside patterns: more children means more manpower (so useful out in the field), safer retirement (as they can take care of their old parents, just as the latter were doing to the former the whole time) and legacy (making it less likely for the entire family to be wiped out and for their possessions to be destroyed). Still, though, it seems virtually impossible to develop a normal human being in such circumstances without it being killed somehow along the way (''vide'': [[spoiler: Beau]]).

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* Presumably, just a will to give humanity the best chance of surviving by raising as much offspring as possible. Bear in mind that with the agricultural and a-bit-primitive life they seem to carry on you may draw analogies to the past or even present countryside patterns: more children means more manpower (so useful out in the field), safer retirement (as they can take care of their old parents, just as the latter were doing to the former the whole time) and legacy (making it less likely for the entire family to be wiped out and for their possessions to be destroyed). Still, though, it seems virtually impossible to develop a normal human being in such circumstances without it being killed somehow along the way (''vide'': [[spoiler: Beau]]).
Beau).
* Condensing the problems with all of the above: ensuring the survival of the human legacy seems a week excuse to produce a child in the type of world run by murderous sound-driven monsters; children under a certain age are simply too young to understand the gravity and will invariably get themselves and others killed; the Abbots had no excuse to try and bring yet another child into the picture after having seen the proof with Beau. Infants, especially, are flat-out ''impossible'' to keep quiet at all times. The world has been deprived of medical professionals nearby who can ease the naturally loud and dangerous processes of birth, nevermind abortion. Producing new children in this movie is the ultimate IdiotBall move, on top of how difficult it is to even conceptualize it happening--there's no "accidental" pregnancies in a world in which even sex could be suicidally dangerous--they both had to have been ''incredibly'' quiet during the act, on ''top'' of not wearing or taking protection.

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* Actually, it makes perfect sense. You put the smallest in the back, because “To evade a predator you only have to out-run the slowest group member.” As the movie proved, the loss of the youngest was one pregnancy away from being a non-issue.
** Yeah because they were totally psychopaths planning to use their kids to save their own necks, that's totally why later on [[spoiler: Lee sacrificed himself to save his children]]. The kids just feel behind.

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* Actually, it makes perfect sense. You put the smallest in the back, because “To evade a predator you only have to out-run the slowest group member.” As the movie proved, the loss of the youngest was one pregnancy away from being a non-issue.
** Yeah because they were totally psychopaths planning to use their kids to save their own necks, that's totally why later on [[spoiler: Lee sacrificed himself to save his children]]. The kids just feel behind.
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***They use battery-powered flashlights.
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***Sound cannons, using a variety of high frequency noises and often with the ability to switch through frequencies already exist and are part of many militaries and police forces. Plus, you really just have to wait until they are listening to something or screaming about something. It seems like no one ever thought to attack the soft fleshy bits.
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* I know this is pretty much the opposite of the point of these pages but this quote: "Live your entire life silently and hope they don't kill you" is sooooo close to getting at a thematic / allegorical understanding of the movie that I just have to comment. I don't mean to come off like an asshole here but I think all you Headscratchers out there in TV Tropes Land would get a lot more out of your cinematic viewing experiences if you tackled these movies using some less literal interpretations. Like, if your headscratcher at the end of Citizen Kane was "Why didn't he just go grab the sled? It was right there in his basement the whole time!" then I think you're missing out.

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* I know this is pretty much the opposite of the point of these pages but this quote: "Live your entire life silently and hope they don't kill you" is sooooo close to getting at a thematic / allegorical understanding of the movie that I just have to comment. I don't mean to come off like an asshole here but I think all you Headscratchers out there in TV Tropes Land would get a lot more out of your cinematic viewing experiences if you tackled these movies using some less literal interpretations. Like, if your headscratcher at the end of Citizen Kane ''Film/CitizenKane'' was "Why didn't he just go grab the sled? It was right there in his basement the whole time!" then I think you're missing out.
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*** Actually, to answer the first point, it was more than just pitch it was [[spoiler: frequency]], along with volume (it had to be loud enough [[spoiler: to disorient them to expose their weakpoints]]) and, on the second point, from my observation, it wasn't so much the fact that the [[spoiler: Cochlear implant]] emitted that frequency, rather, it was damaged, hence, why it did what it did (to elaborate, I knew a girl who was ''functionally'' deaf and her hearing aid made that sort of noise when interfered with, however, it wasn't loud). On the note of the third point, well, we did see raccoon get eaten (or crushed, either way, it became a splattered mess at the monster's claws?) and that made a high-pitched noise, thus it's more than the pitch, otherwise, we'd probably see more animals and the monsters ignoring them.

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*** Actually, to answer the first point, it was more than just pitch it was [[spoiler: frequency]], along with volume (it had to be loud enough [[spoiler: to disorient them to expose their weakpoints]]) and, on the second point, from my observation, it wasn't so much the fact that the [[spoiler: Cochlear implant]] emitted that frequency, rather, it was damaged, hence, why it did what it did (to elaborate, I knew a girl who was ''functionally'' deaf and her hearing aid made that sort of noise when interfered with, however, it wasn't loud). On the note of the third point, well, we did see a raccoon get eaten (or crushed, either way, it became a splattered mess at the monster's claws?) and that made a high-pitched noise, thus it's more than the pitch, otherwise, we'd probably see more animals and the monsters ignoring them.




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***If there are 128 confirmed landings and we get 3 monsters in the area with the Abbots, then the number would be around 384 in the entire world, if we go with "3 monsters = 1 meteorite". In terms of the landings, it's possible that the one in Mexico was probably the ''latest'' and the that the monsters have waking up and killing nonstop before people got wind of it (by which point it was too late).



** Probably because 1), that might divert much needed power from other sources and 2), that idea might backfire, along with 3), something could go wrong. It's possible that they had other ideas such, as this one, but the system they have was the most feasible one.

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** Probably because 1), that might divert much needed power from other sources and 2), that idea might backfire, backfire hard, along with 3), something could go wrong.wrong while setting it up. It's possible that they had other ideas such, as this one, but the system they have was the most feasible one.




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**Besides Beau's shuttle, they don't seem to use a lot of things that need them and, if the "shuttle incident" is to go by, anything that needs batteries would be too noisy, so batteries would be hassle to deal with. Likewise, a lot of what they do a lot of things without electricity, so batteries wouldn't be that valuable a resource.
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Sand or no sand, truck tires rolling on dirt ''will'' make noise, and for an extended period of time given that it was dark when it first started moving, but dawn when they arrived. How would the creatures not be hot on their tail before they even made it back to the house?

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Sand or no sand, truck tires rolling on dirt ''will'' make noise, and for an extended period of time given that it was dark when it first started moving, but dawn when they arrived. How would the creatures not be hot on their tail before they even made it back to the house?house?
**Well, throughout the the entire film, it's noted that it's not so much the sounds themselves but how ''loud'' said sounds are. Lee yelling was louder than the truck being driven (or pushed)
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** More, firing a gun is an extremely noisy affair. Not only he would have to deal with unharmed, pissed creature in front of him, but also lure everything from few miles around toward himself and his family. Definitely ''not'' helping things.

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** More, firing a gun is an extremely noisy affair. Not only he would have to deal with unharmed, pissed creature in front of him, but also lure everything from few miles around toward himself and his family. Definitely ''not'' helping things.things.

!!'''Just take the batteries with you!'''
Lee tinkers with electronics in his spare time and that would almost certainly require some batteries. Just as well, the family probably has appliances and such around the home that would need some spare batteries eventually. And finally, taking them with him would guarantee nobody could put them back in the shuttle toy. So why not just take them with him? They were ''on'' a supply run after all, those are a obvious resource.

!!'''How is a moving vehicle less distracting than a man yelling?'''
Sand or no sand, truck tires rolling on dirt ''will'' make noise, and for an extended period of time given that it was dark when it first started moving, but dawn when they arrived. How would the creatures not be hot on their tail before they even made it back to the house?
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* I know this is pretty much the opposite of the point of these pages but this quote: "Live your entire life silently and hope they don't kill you" is sooooo close to getting at a thematic / allegorical understanding of the movie that I just have to comment. I don't mean to come off like an asshole here but I think all you Headscratchers out there in TVTropes Land would get a lot more out of your cinematic viewing experiences if you tackled these movies using some less literal interpretations. Like, if your headscratcher at the end of Citizen Kane was "Why didn't he just go grab the sled? It was right there in his basement the whole time!" then I think you're missing out.

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* I know this is pretty much the opposite of the point of these pages but this quote: "Live your entire life silently and hope they don't kill you" is sooooo close to getting at a thematic / allegorical understanding of the movie that I just have to comment. I don't mean to come off like an asshole here but I think all you Headscratchers out there in TVTropes TV Tropes Land would get a lot more out of your cinematic viewing experiences if you tackled these movies using some less literal interpretations. Like, if your headscratcher at the end of Citizen Kane was "Why didn't he just go grab the sled? It was right there in his basement the whole time!" then I think you're missing out.
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* I know this is pretty much the opposite of the point of these pages but this quote: "Live your entire life silently and hope they don't kill you" is sooooo close to getting at a thematic / allegorical understanding of the movie that I just have to comment. I don't mean to come off like an asshole here but I think all you Headscratchers out there in TVTropes Land would get a lot more out of your cinematic viewing experiences if you tackled these movies using some less literal interpretations. Like, if your headscratcher at the end of Citizen Kane was "Why didn't he just go grab the sled? It was right there in his basement the whole time!" then I think you're missing out.
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* I think Lee takes out the batteries and then places both the toy and the batteries separately on the counter, telling Beau "No, it's too loud." Regan then takes the toy (sans batteries) and hands it back to Beau after Lee leaves, clearly (mildly) disobeying her dad. Beau then takes the batteries on his own after both Regan and Lee have left. So, at each step it's believable (IMO) that the characters would behave like that: Lee says "no toy" and assumes his children (or at least Regan) will obey since they must do so pretty much all the time to have lasted this long. Regan decides there's no harm in Beau having a battery-less toy and slightly overrides her dad (out of love for her brother and probably some teenage rebellion). Beau then grabs the batteries, probably not entirely understanding what they are and just wanting his toy to not be broken.
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* And what benefit would that be? In Lee's research area he has articles detailing that nothing at that point in time with available information would do anything other than piss them off, combine that with unnecessary weight of the shotgun and the potential of dropping it and making noise. It makes no logical sense for him to consider taking a shotgun.

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* And what benefit would that be? In Lee's research area he has articles detailing that nothing at that point in time with available information would do anything other than piss them off, combine that with unnecessary weight of the shotgun and the potential of dropping it and making noise. It makes no logical sense for him to consider taking a shotgun.shotgun.
** More, firing a gun is an extremely noisy affair. Not only he would have to deal with unharmed, pissed creature in front of him, but also lure everything from few miles around toward himself and his family. Definitely ''not'' helping things.
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Why didn't Lee bring a gun with him when he went to go look for his kids?

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Why didn't Lee bring a gun with him when he went to go look for his kids?kids?

*And what benefit would that be? In Lee's research area he has articles detailing that nothing at that point in time with available information would do anything other than piss them off, combine that with unnecessary weight of the shotgun and the potential of dropping it and making noise. It makes no logical sense for him to consider taking a shotgun.
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** For all we know the military did try this and it did work, they just weren’t able to kill all the creatures that way before at least local civilisation collapsed.
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** If I recall that scene correctly, um, it got flooded from a broken pipe and, since the baby was quiet, Evelyn probably opened the casket with the baby in it, removing the oxygen mask (as he could breath just fine after crying), along with that the creature found a way in through some opening by following the sound of the water (and any soundwaves traveling through the water). In terms of why the monster didn't attack the baby, well, it was listening for the threshold (sounds have to be at a certain threshold to set them off).

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** If I recall that scene correctly, um, it got flooded from a broken pipe and, since the baby was quiet, Evelyn probably opened the casket with the baby in it, removing the oxygen mask (as he could breath just fine after crying), along with that the creature found a way in through some opening by following the sound of the water (and any soundwaves traveling through the water). In terms of why the monster didn't attack the baby, well, it was listening for the threshold (sounds have to be at a certain threshold to set them off).off).

!!Going to search for the kids while unarmed?
Why didn't Lee bring a gun with him when he went to go look for his kids?

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* Well, they navigate by sound, however, it possible they probably have some level of sensory hairs located on the outside of it's body to feel around.

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* Well, they navigate by sound, however, it is possible they probably have some level of sensory hairs located on the outside of it's body to feel around.



*** Well, they could have done that but that still would take away from other resources. That and I think the monsters would pick up on it eventually (think the seen with the egg timer).

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*** Well, they could have done that but that still would take away from other resources. That and I think the monsters would pick up on it eventually (think the seen scene with the egg timer).




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**Probably because 1), that might divert much needed power from other sources and 2), that idea might backfire, along with 3), something could go wrong. It's possible that they had other ideas such, as this one, but the system they have was the most feasible one.



The scene in the flooded basement is very confusing. How did the basement get flooded so quickly, even if it was a major pipe that was severed? And who opened the casket with the infant? Who removed his oxygen mask and why? How did the creature even come in, and why didn't it attack immediately? For most of that scene, this troper thought it was really just a nightmare sequence of Evelyn's.

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The scene in the flooded basement is very confusing. How did the basement get flooded so quickly, even if it was a major pipe that was severed? And who opened the casket with the infant? Who removed his oxygen mask and why? How did the creature even come in, and why didn't it attack immediately? For most of that scene, this troper thought it was really just a nightmare sequence of Evelyn's.Evelyn's.
**If I recall that scene correctly, um, it got flooded from a broken pipe and, since the baby was quiet, Evelyn probably opened the casket with the baby in it, removing the oxygen mask (as he could breath just fine after crying), along with that the creature found a way in through some opening by following the sound of the water (and any soundwaves traveling through the water). In terms of why the monster didn't attack the baby, well, it was listening for the threshold (sounds have to be at a certain threshold to set them off).

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**Yeah because they were totally psychopaths planning to use their kids to save their own necks, that's totally why later on [[spoiler: Lee sacrificed himself to save his children]]. The kids just feel behind.


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***How would the average person know the safe way to induce and abortion? The internet doesn't seem to be a thing I doubt there's a book on the subject anywhere nearby.
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** Also, have you ever considered the possibility that they ''can’t'' go back to space? They came to Earth via a meteorite, which was an accident and unintentional on their part. There’s no indication they even could go back to space even if they wanted to; they have no means of leaving the planet.
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** One newspaper clipping mentions '128 confirmed landings'. There wasn't just one meteorite.
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** One of the newspaper cuttings mentions '128 landings confirmed'. The Mexico meteorite wasn't the only one.
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** Well, we do know that they can swim as, [[spoiler: towards the end, during the scene with Evelyn and the baby in their safehouse]], one did go underwater and there's the fact that they can survive a long time without needing to breath, so them getting there wouldn't be too much a of problem (though some probably did get picked off by much bigger creatures)but it's possible that the asteroid had actually broken apart and one part landed elsewhere.

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** Well, we do know that they can swim as, [[spoiler: towards the end, during the scene with Evelyn and the baby in their safehouse]], one did go underwater and there's the fact that they can survive a long time without needing to breath, so them getting there wouldn't be too much a of problem (though some probably did get picked off by much bigger creatures)but it's possible that the asteroid had actually broken apart and one part landed elsewhere.elsewhere.

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The scene in the flooded basement is very confusing. How did the basement get flooded so quickly, even if it was a major pipe that was severed? And who opened the casket with the infant? Who removed his oxygen mask and why? How did the creature even come in, and why didn't it attack immediately? For most of that scene, this troper thought it was really just a nightmare sequence of Evelyn's.

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