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* After the events of ''Steelheart'', David is given a nickname among those who have only heard of him in stories: [[spoiler: Steelslayer]]. This sounds very like an Epic name [[spoiler: and might be another reason that Regalia suggested he be given Steelheart's power]].
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* Dawnslight in book 2 is the only Epic we see who seems to have been purely beneficent from the start, never manifesting the corruption. He also happens to be comatose and have gotten his powers while in that coma. Given the revelation in book 3 that [[spoiler: the corruption is a result of Calamity's hatred of our reality and its overwhelming sensory stimulation, it's possible that Dawnslight being comatose made him uniquely immune to corruption because he never experienced the sensory stimuli that so pained Calamity]].
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* [[spoiler: Fortuity's weakness was [[DistractedByTheSexy attractive women]], but he's introduced with ALadyOnEachArm, which means he's overcome his weakness. Which means two things: He's committing all of his evil acts [[NotBrainwashed of his own free will]], and if David hadn't interfered and checkmated him, the Reckoners' trap would have failed and likely got them killed.]]

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* [[spoiler: Fortuity's weakness was [[DistractedByTheSexy attractive women]], but he's introduced with ALadyOnEachArm, which means he's overcome his weakness. Which means two things: He's committing all of his evil acts [[NotBrainwashed of his own free will]], and if David hadn't interfered and checkmated him, the Reckoners' trap would have failed and likely got them killed.]] Or, alternatively, the weakness is more extreme than mere attraction (like how Sourcefield was weakened by kool-aid but only truly BroughtDownToNormal when it got in her mouth). In all likelihood, the only way to truly depower Fortuity would be to have sex with him. That has all sorts of implications, most of them bad. Does he kill women before he finishes? After? Or ''has'' he overcome his weakness after all, and he really is just that horrible?]]
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* It's mentioned that an Epic's weakness doesn't negate wide-area or indirect uses of their powers (i.e. Nightwielder's darkness was not dissipated by the UV from the sun, devices charged by Conflux's power don't fail in the vicinity of dogs, Steelheart's Great Transfersion still took place even around those not afraid of him). With the revelation that the weaknesses are quasi-psychosomatic, derived from the Epic's fears rather that from anything fundamental about their powers, this makes more sense. If the Epic isn't being directly confronted with the thing they fear, then it doesn't have much of an effect.
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* In the first book, why did Prof stop and listen to David again when he and the Reckoners had already decided to walk away? Because David said they were failing. While at the time it reads like they stop because of the attack on their pride, after revelations in Calamity, it becomes clear that [[spoiler:Prof stopped because David's words struck too close to his Weakness. It was something he'd instinctively stop and pay attention to]].
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* [[spoiler: Like Megan and Prof, many Epics did horrible things while under the influence of the darkness. Now that the darkness is gone, they will have to come to terms with the atrocities that they committed with their powers. How many Epics are now in Prof's situation? How many Epics have killed their loved ones? How many random civilians have they killed for some petty annoyance? The guilt and horror that they'll experience would be immense.]]

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* [[spoiler: Like Megan and Prof, many Epics did horrible things while under the influence of the darkness. Now that the darkness is gone, they will have to come to terms with the atrocities that they committed with their powers. How many Epics are now in Prof's situation? How many Epics have killed their loved ones? How many random civilians have they killed for some petty annoyance? The guilt and horror that they'll experience would be immense.]]
* [[spoiler: Fortuity's weakness was [[DistractedByTheSexy attractive women]], but he's introduced with ALadyOnEachArm, which means he's overcome his weakness. Which means two things: He's committing all of his evil acts [[NotBrainwashed of his own free will]], and if David hadn't interfered and checkmated him, the Reckoners' trap would have failed and likely got them killed.
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*In Firefight, when the Reckoners are working out their plan for the epics in Babilar, Step 2 is to kill Regalia, and Step 3 is "Mizzy gets a cookie." At the end of the book, [[spoiler: after Regalia's death, Dawnslight gives Mizzy a fortune cookie, allowing her to survive Prof's purge.]]
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** David becomes the new Steelheart at the end of Calamity. At the end of Steelheart, he gets Steelheart to kill himself with his own gun. David is keeping with a time-honored Steelheart tradition.

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** David [[spoiler: becomes the new Steelheart at the end of Calamity. Calamity]]. At the end of Steelheart, he [[spoiler: gets Steelheart to kill himself with his own gun.gun]]. David is keeping with a time-honored Steelheart tradition.
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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: This makes total sense with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightwielder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]

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* Nightweilder's Nightwielder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: This makes total sense with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightwielder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]



* Limelight uses careful planning to defeat his opponents and when he does get into a Mano-a-mano fight he's a combat pragmatist that fights dirty. His costume is solid black with a labcoat that flows like a cape. Before he turned evil, his job was fighting and defeating people with super powers. David, meanwhile after killing Stealheart, wants to try and save them. He carries a distinctive S symbol that represents hope, and is attempting to live up to the inspiring words of his father and help people. Calamity is a Superman/Batman fight!

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** David becomes the new Steelheart at the end of Calamity. At the end of Steelheart, he gets Steelheart to kill himself with his own gun. David is keeping with a time-honored Steelheart tradition.
* Limelight uses careful planning to defeat his opponents and when he does get into a Mano-a-mano fight he's a combat pragmatist that fights dirty. His costume is solid black with a labcoat lab coat that flows like a cape. Before he turned evil, his job was fighting and defeating people with super powers. David, meanwhile after killing Stealheart, Steelheart, wants to try and save them. He carries a distinctive S symbol that represents hope, and is attempting to live up to the inspiring words of his father and help people. Calamity is a Superman/Batman fight!
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* [[spoiler: ''{{Literature/Firefight}}'' strongly implies that Calamity is a gifter Epic, one who has gifted his powers to every other Epic. And we know that if you kill a gifter, his gifted powers die with him. Kill Calamity, and every Epic will be depowered. Of course, killing Calamity may be a bit difficult. And even if killing Calamity doesn't depower the Epics, WordOfGod confirms that no Epic has total immunity to aging. Without Calamity creating new Epics, they will gradually die off and humanity will once again rule.]]

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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: This makes total sense with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightweilder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]

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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: This makes total sense with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightweilder's Nightwielder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]



* [[spoiler: At the end of ''Firefight'' Prof is a true Epic. Almost the first thing he did was try to kill his fellow Reckoners, since he knows more than anyone else just how dangerous they can be. And he's the one person who knows all the Reckoners' identities and locations, along with the various safehouses that only he created. And he can create an army for himself.]]

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* [[spoiler: At the end of ''Firefight'' Prof is a true Epic. Almost the first thing he did was try to kill his fellow Reckoners, since he knows more than anyone else just how dangerous they can be. And he's the one person who knows all the Reckoners' identities and locations, along with the various safehouses that only he created. And he can create an army for himself.]]
* [[spoiler: Like Megan and Prof, many Epics did horrible things while under the influence of the darkness. Now that the darkness is gone, they will have to come to terms with the atrocities that they committed with their powers. How many Epics are now in Prof's situation? How many Epics have killed their loved ones? How many random civilians have they killed for some petty annoyance? The guilt and horror that they'll experience would be immense.
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*Limelight uses careful planning to defeat his opponents and when he does get into a Mano-a-mano fight he's a combat pragmatist that fights dirty. His costume is solid black with a labcoat that flows like a cape. Before he turned evil, his job was fighting and defeating people with super powers. David, meanwhile after killing Stealheart, wants to try and save them. He carries a distinctive S symbol that represents hope, and is attempting to live up to the inspiring words of his father and help people. Calamity is a Superman/Batman fight!

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** [[spoiler: ''{{Literature/Calamity}}'' reveals that powers travel down family lines (although not always). Both David and the alternate universe version of his father have similar powers, while the Prof's daughter from said universe has his powers. So Epics are probably here to stay]]
*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler: The alternate version of David's father is just that: His father in a dimension where Steelheart never got his powers, but he did. David's actual father never got the powers, because Steelheart got his powers. David most likely got Steelheart's powers because Calamity thought it would be ironic. There is also nothing suggesting that Prof got his powers in Tavi's reality.]]



* [[spoiler: At the end of ''Firefight'' Prof is a true Epic. Almost the first thing he did was try to kill his fellow Reckoners, since he knows more than anyone else just how dangerous they can be. And he's the one person who knows all the Reckoners' identities and locations, along with the various safehouses that only he created. And he can create an army for himself.]]
* [[spoiler: Epic weaknesses are tied to a powerful fear, something strong enough to cause recurring nightmares, often linked to some traumatic aspect of the epic's past. So what kind of experiences lead to things like compliments or physical attraction being weaknesses?]]
** [[spoiler: Explained as of ''Calamity''. The process of becoming an Epic takes a mundane fear and amplifies it to recurring nightmare levels. Fortuity was probably nervous around beautiful women before he got his powers, and Newton, as mentioned, was a teen rebel who didn't want her parents to think well of her.]]

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* [[spoiler: At the end of ''Firefight'' Prof is a true Epic. Almost the first thing he did was try to kill his fellow Reckoners, since he knows more than anyone else just how dangerous they can be. And he's the one person who knows all the Reckoners' identities and locations, along with the various safehouses that only he created. And he can create an army for himself.]]
* [[spoiler: Epic weaknesses are tied to a powerful fear, something strong enough to cause recurring nightmares, often linked to some traumatic aspect of the epic's past. So what kind of experiences lead to things like compliments or physical attraction being weaknesses?]]
** [[spoiler: Explained as of ''Calamity''. The process of becoming an Epic takes a mundane fear and amplifies it to recurring nightmare levels. Fortuity was probably nervous around beautiful women before he got his powers, and Newton, as mentioned, was a teen rebel who didn't want her parents to think well of her.
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*** Not necessarily. [[spoiler: The alternate version of David's father is just that: His father in a dimension where Steelheart never got his powers, but he did. David's actual father never got the powers, because Steelheart got his powers. David most likely got Steelheart's powers because Calamity thought it would be ironic. There is also nothing suggesting that Prof got his powers in Tavi's reality.]]
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* [[spoiler: Epic weaknesses are tied to a powerful fear, something strong enough to cause recurring nightmares, often linked to some traumatic aspect of the epic's past. So what kind of experiences lead to things like compliments or physical attraction being weaknesses?]]

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* [[spoiler: Epic weaknesses are tied to a powerful fear, something strong enough to cause recurring nightmares, often linked to some traumatic aspect of the epic's past. So what kind of experiences lead to things like compliments or physical attraction being weaknesses?]]weaknesses?]]
** [[spoiler: Explained as of ''Calamity''. The process of becoming an Epic takes a mundane fear and amplifies it to recurring nightmare levels. Fortuity was probably nervous around beautiful women before he got his powers, and Newton, as mentioned, was a teen rebel who didn't want her parents to think well of her.]]
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** [[spoiler: ''{{Literature/Calamity'' reveals that powers travel down family lines (although not always). Both David and the alternate universe version of his father have similar powers, while the Prof's daughter from said universe has his powers. So Epics are probably here to stay]]

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** [[spoiler: ''{{Literature/Calamity'' ''{{Literature/Calamity}}'' reveals that powers travel down family lines (although not always). Both David and the alternate universe version of his father have similar powers, while the Prof's daughter from said universe has his powers. So Epics are probably here to stay]]
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** [[spoiler: ''{{Literature/Calamity'' reveals that powers travel down family lines (although not always). Both David and the alternate universe version of his father have similar powers, while the Prof's daughter from said universe has his powers. So Epics are probably here to stay]]
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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: this makes total sense, with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightweilder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]

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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: this This makes total sense, sense with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightweilder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]
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* Edmund/Conflux said he 'thought' his weakness was being near a dog, but it apparently wasn't as bad as he thought. How would he know this if he ''hadn't actually gone as near a dog as he dared to test this out?'' [[spoiler:This explains his humble and good behavior above and beyond his being a gifter Epic. It's because he has already overcome the corruption, albeit unknowingly. He IS the first good Epic.]]

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* Edmund/Conflux said he 'thought' his weakness was being near a dog, but it apparently wasn't as bad as he thought. How would he know this if he ''hadn't actually gone as near (or been threatened with) a dog as he dared to test this out?'' [[spoiler:This explains his humble and good behavior above and beyond his being a gifter Epic. It's because he has already overcome the corruption, albeit unknowingly. He IS the first good Epic.]]
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* Steelheart made a point of killing special enemies with their own guns. While it initially seemed to just be a way to underline his power, there turns out to be another reason. His weakness is people who aren't afraid of him, so it's entirely possible that his powers wouldn't have worked when used against such people. Guns, on the other hand, worked just fine.
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* Nightweilder's powers included the ability to make the sky totally black. No sun, no moon, no stars, nothing. Only Calamity could be seen in the sky. [[spoiler: this makes total sense, with TheReveal that Calamity is actually an Epic. Presumably Nightweilder's power only blocks light coming in from outside the atmosphere. Calamity could be floating around low enough to not be affected. That, or it's a hint that Calamity is immune to all Epic powers.]]

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* The main character's initials are "DC." The initials of the insurance company underwriting the contents of the vault are "JLA." Abraham wears a stylized "S" on his chest because he believes the heroes are coming. Brandon Sanderson has been hiding DC Comics easter eggs.
** Not only that, but people who believe that superheroes are coming are known as [[Creator/StanLee True Believers]]
* When Megan kills Fortuity, she doesn't really checkmate him. Because of [[spoiler: the way her powers work, she can just fire two bullets into the air, and then use her powers to choose the universe where one of them kills Fortuity]]. She loves pistols for a similar reason: [[spoiler: when you can choose a universe where your shots hit their target, you don't need a rifle to be accurate. You just use the weapon that you can get out and shoot the fastest]].
** She doesn't have that power most of the time, she can only do illusions. Her powers are only that strong [[CameBackStrong immediately after resurrection.]] That said, under those circumstances that use of her power works fine.

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* The main character's initials are "DC." The initials of the insurance company underwriting the contents of the vault are "JLA." Abraham wears a stylized "S" on his chest because he believes the heroes are coming. Brandon Sanderson has been hiding DC Comics easter eggs.
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eggs. Not only that, but people who believe that superheroes are coming are known as [[Creator/StanLee True Believers]]
* When Megan kills Fortuity, she doesn't really checkmate him. Because of [[spoiler: the way her powers work, she can just fire two bullets into the air, and then use her powers to choose the universe where one of them kills Fortuity]]. She loves pistols for a similar reason: [[spoiler: when you can choose a universe where your shots hit their target, you don't need a rifle to be accurate. You just use the weapon that you can get out and shoot the fastest]].
** She doesn't have that power most of the time, she can only do illusions. Her powers are only that strong [[CameBackStrong immediately after resurrection.]] That said, under those circumstances that use of her power works fine.

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