History Fridge / The100

* Season Five, some of the Grounders of Wonkru are sometimes seen sharing food, while uttering the prayer-like oath, "All of me for all of you." You might think at first that the words are symbolic of someone sharing what they had with their friends...[[spoiler: until "The Dark Year," when it turns out "All of me for all of you" is meant to mean exactly that. [[ImAHumanitarian Literally]]]].

* Season Five, some of the Grounders of Wonkru are sometimes seen sharing food, while uttering the prayer-like oath, "All of me for all of you." You might think at first that the words are symbolic of someone sharing what he had with their friends...until "The Dark Year," when it turns out "All of me for all of you" is meant to mean exactly that. [[ImAHumanitarian Literally]].

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** But their are a couple more factors to consider for this logic:

*** Another one is that if things played out differently in the first episode their would have been 101 instead of 48 members of the group in Mount Weather which is a factor because the whole reason Tsing was taking so much bone marrow from each individual is so that she can mass produce the cure to the whole population of her people and possibly would have ended up taking less if all the original 100 was in the facility and the experiments would have been less fatal to them.
*** Then also having all the 100 in the facility would also mean that they would have Bellamy who would probably have tried to sabotage them the moment he got in because of his fear of the Ark coming down and punishing him for what he did to Jaha and there are the others like for example Murphy who would have gave the residents and the guards of Mount Weather a hard time with their teenage rebelling and also Bellamy and Murphy and a few others already knew how to fight and use weapons before coming to the ground and their are the few others including Clarke and Wells who payed attention in Earth Skills class and Clarke could have still ended up being their leader like she did outside because of being more level headed.

* Season 4, episode 12, the debate about who from Skaikru gets to [[spoiler: remain in the bunker]] is solved by [[spoiler: Jaha and Kane gassing the Arkadians and choosing for themselves who will stay and who will die.]] The horror comes in when you think about what will happen when the Arkadians wake up and find themselves either [[spoiler: condemned to death outside the bunker or, like Miller, inside the bunker while someone you love is outside.]]
** A bit of FridgeLogic too: if they chose their survivors from Clarke's list, [[spoiler: do the names that were drawn for the lottery stand? Or did those people just get their hopes up only to wake up and find they will die anyway?]]

*** Dante the Mount Weather president didn't want to do the experiments on them and they only ended up being done because Tsing and Cage went behind his back and eventually Cage took over the presidency with the help of other guards who also wanted to do the experiments to cure their families. Even then their were also other people who didn't agree with any of the experiments including the ones on the Grounders and they even tried to help the members of the 100 who were in Mount Weather and most likely would have tried to help them under the different circumstance.

*** Then also having all the 100 in the facility would also mean that they would have Bellamy who would probably have tried to sabotage them the moment he got in because of his fear of the Ark coming down and punishing him for what he did to Jaha and their are the others like for example Murphy who would have gave the residents and the guards of Mount Weather a hard time with their teenage rebelling and also Bellamy and Murphy and a few others already knew how to fight and use weapons before coming to the ground and their are the few others including Clarke and Wells who payed attention in Earth Skills class and Clarke could have still ended up being their leader like she did outside because of being more level headed.
*** Then their is the wristbands and why the 100 were supposed to end up in Mount Weather in the first place to let the Ark know that the ground is survivable and Dante most likely would have wanted the Ark residents to come down so that his original plan of integrating them with his people to breed their immunity into his people's gene pool and because of this would have possibly contacted the Ark and even would have stopped the signal that caused their ships to crash in the first place.
*** In general they also would have avoided all the actions and misunderstandings that caused a conflict with the Grounders in the first place and if the experiments ended up going down the same way it did before with Clarke or one or some of the others escaping they could have had a easier time forming an alliance with them as their would have been less animosity between them.

* On an Earth where blending in and stealth seem a way of life, the Reapers and their bright red colours stand out like a sore thumb. The brilliance comes in when you realize that they are a bunch of AxeCrazy roaming cannibals. They consider themselves on top of the food chain, everything else is prey. They don't hide, you hide from them. Furthermore, they're probably ''the reason'' the Grounders had to learn to be stealthy in the first place.

** But of course she still ends up losing credibility with her people for not charging the mountain as her people still wanted revenge against them and it got worse because of the act that Clarke took them all out with a switch which ends up giving her a reputation among the Grounders and making them consider Lexa a coward for retreating.

* If the 100 made it to Mount Weather in the first episode like they were supposed to, [[NecessaryFail they would never have escaped]] the [[spoiler: bone marrow treatments]]. It would've been before they'd become hardened killers, before they'd become more ruthless, cautious and resilient. They wouldn't have the unity that comes from being FireForgedFriends. In short, they would still be a bunch of foolish, naive teenagers, and would be picked off easily as a result.

*** Dante the Mount Weather president didn't want to do the experiments on them and they only ended up being done because Tsing and Cage went behind his back and eventually Cage took over the presidency with the help of other guards who also wanted to do the experiments. Even then their were also other people who didn't agree with any of the experiments including the ones on the Grounders and they even tried to help the members of the 100 who were in Mount Weather and most likely would have tried to help them under the different circumstance.
*** Another one is that if things played out differently in the first episode their would have been 101 instead of 48 members of the group in Mount Weather which is a factor because the whole reason Tsing was taking so much bone marrow from each individual is so that she can mass produce the cure to the whole population of her people and possibly would have ended up taking less if all the original 100 was in the facility and the experiments would not have been fatal to less of them.

* The one child per family policy makes no sense for a species trying to survive, until you find out [[spoiler: there's only room for seven hundred people to go down to Earth. They were supposed to have a couple more generations to breed down to that number without a culling.]]
* In the heat of the moment, it's very easy to wonder why [[spoiler: Lexa didn't just [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves charge the Mountain]] the moment their captives were released.]] It's a pretty stark turnaround from ''Jus drein jus daun'' to meekly cooperating with whatever the Mountain Men ask. Then you realize that, as ''Heda'', Lexa absolutely cannot afford to have even ''one'' example of a time when she [[IGaveMyWord negotiated a truce]], and then [[ILied went back on her word]] the moment she got what she wanted. Her credibility would be ''gone'', and she would never be able to maintain control of the tribes. Especially true as Lexa seems to have built her reputation on being a ReasonableAuthorityFigure; see her negotiations with Clarke and her very calm, quietly mournful approach to executions when they're necessary. It's not idealism; this world has no UN, no centralized government, no way to enforce contracts on a large scale. If she gets a reputation as a liar, the coalition dissolves and her people suffer. It doesn't matter ''how'' much she hates Cage--he negotiated with her as an enemy leader, and she agreed to his terms.

*** Another one is that if things played out differently in the first episode their would have been 101 instead of 48 members of the group in Mount Weather which is a factor because the whole reason Tsing was taking so much bone marrow from each individual is so that she can mass produce the cure to the whole population of her people and possibly who have ended up taking less if all the original 100 was in the facility.
*** Then also having all the 100 in the facility would also mean that they would have Bellamy who would probably have tried to sabotage them because of his fear of the Ark coming down because of what he did to Jaha and their are the others like for example Murphy who would have gave the residents of Mount Weather a hard time with their rebelling and the ones like Bellamy and Murphy already know how to fight and their are the others like Clarke and Wells who payed attention in their Earth Skills class and Clarke could have still ended up being their leader like she did outside because of being more level headed.
*** Then their is the wristbands and why they were supposed to end up in Mount Weather in the first place to let the Ark know that the ground is survivable and Dante most likely would have wanted them to come down so that his original plan of integrating them with his people to breed their immunity into his people's gene pool and because of this would have possibly contacted the Ark and even would have stopped the signal that caused their ships to crash in the first place.

On the [[Headscratchers/{{The 100}} headscratchers]] page.

* At first listen, the ConLang used by the Grounders seems like guttural, consonant-heavy nonsense. However as the show continues and you hear more of it, you realize that it is more of a pidgin language based on English that sometimes makes [[YouNoTakeCandle basic sense]] to the audience ("Be quiet" in Grounder sounds very much like "Shut up"). The basis on English might then be a source of frustration, since we have no reason to believe the 100 and those that follow crashed anywhere near an English-speaking country... Until the presence of the Lincoln Memorial is revealed, and you realize why the Grounders call their home [[FutureImperfect "Tondc"]].

* At first listen, the ConLang used by the Grounders seems like guttural, consonant-heavy nonsense. However as the show continues and you hear more of it, you realize that it is more of a pidgin language based on English that sometimes makes [[YouNoTakeCandle basic sense]] to the audience ("Be quiet" in Grounder sounds very much like "Shut up"). The basis on English might then be a source of frustration, since we have no reason to believe the 100 and those that follow crashed anywhere near an English-speaking country... Until the presence of the Lincoln Memorial is revealed, and you realize why the Grounders call their home "Ton Dee Cee".

* At first listen, the ConLang used by the Grounders seems like guttural, consonant-heavy nonsense. However as the show continues and you hear more of it, you realize that it is both based on English and sometimes makes sense to the audience. The basis on English might then be a source of frustration, since we have no reason to believe the 100 and those that follow crashed anywhere near an English-speaking country... Until the presence of the Lincoln Memorial is revealed, and you realize why the Grounders call their home "Ton Dee Cee".

* It might seem strange at first that Clarke was surprised by the body of water the group found, considering that she's holding a map of the area. Once you remember that nobody has been down to Earth in almost a hundred years and that The Ark has no way of seeing what's happening on the surface, this makes sense: That map is probably out of date by ninety-seven years.
** Also, since they had lived on a space station their whole lives, they've never ''seen'' a large body of water before, beyond pictures and videos.
** Additionally, living on a space station all their lives wouldn't give them any real opportunity to learn how to navigate over open ground, map or no map. Perhaps Clarke thought they were somewhere else, nowhere near any bodies of water.
* Perhaps the names which were obviously derived from science fiction authors (Bellamy, Clarke, Wells) came from living in space, previously a common sci-fi plot?
* Octavia's tendency to run about and leave the group seemed another plot point, until we see in episode six she spent sixteen years living in a room no bigger then a garage. Of course she's the first to step out of the Drop ship, she's been imprisoned in one form or another ninety nine percent of her life. Which explains her tendency to go on walkabout and follow butterflies. She has a lot of catching up to do.
* When the 100 are hit with a virus from the grounders, Lincoln says that certain people are immune. Who ends up not being affected at all? Finn and Octavia, the two people who want peace with the grounders the most.
** this may also have to do with violent intent and blood pressure. The disease causes blood to pour out the victim's body, which may be caused by higher blood pressure. Raven gets hit only when she's setting up the bomb and many high-strung or violent people are early victims.

* Jasper being speared in episode one and later left for bait becomes this as the series progresses. Why do the Grounders spear Jasper him? If they wanted to kill the teens, they would have done it before, right? Why switch from watching to killing? Then we find out about the Reapers, who are used by the Mountain Men to guard Mount Weather. It was probably the Reapers who speared Jasper, Lincoln who healed him and the rest of the grounders who decided to use him as live bait.
** It's pretty clearly established that when Jasper swung over the river, he moved from neutral territory to Grounder turf, which was their justification for attacking. Given that Reapers are AxeCrazy ''cannibals,'' they probably wouldn't have just walked away from a fresh kill.
*** Another possible factor is Jasper waving around a 'Mount Weather' sign and cheering, shouting the name. Given how the Grounders regard Mount Weather, they might not want the place to gain extra resources/allies.

* In the heat of the moment, it's very easy to wonder why [[spoiler: Lexa didn't just [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves charge the Mountain]] the moment their captives were released.]] It's a pretty stark turnaround from ''Jus drein jus daun'' to meekly cooperating with whatever the Mountain Men ask. Then you realize that, as ''Heda'', Lexa absolutely cannot afford to have even ''one'' example of a time when she [[IGaveMyWord negotiated a truce]], and then [[ILied went back on her word]] the moment she got what she wanted. Her credibility would be ''gone'', and she would never be able to maintain control of the tribes.
** Especially true as Lexa seems to have built her reputation on being a ReasonableAuthorityFigure; see her negotiations with Clarke and her very calm, quietly mournful approach to executions when they're necessary. It's not idealism; this world has no UN, no centralized government, no way to enforce contracts on a large scale. If she gets a reputation as a liar, the coalition dissolves and her people suffer. It doesn't matter ''how'' much she hates Cage--he negotiated with her as an enemy leader, and she agreed to his terms.

* The reason Lexa agreed to Cage's SadisticChoice. Only shortly before she returns and orders her people to stand down, Monty tells Bellamy that ''Cage sent a large number of guards to converge on the Grounders in the harvesting room''. The Grounders who are weak, nearly naked, defenseless--some can barely ''walk''. It wasn't a question of "Pull your people back and we'll release yours without a fight, just leave us the 44." Lexa's choice was "Pull your people out, ''or we slaughter the ones you came to rescue''." As Clarke said--this was a rescue mission. Lexa couldn't order her warriors to die for the Sky People in full knowledge that their own would never be rescued. She truly, honestly ''did not have a choice''.

* The show's use of hydrazine is completely bonkers. Raven dips a rock in some of the red fluid then throws it and upon landing it explodes violently. In reality hydrazine is a colorless liquid monopropellant that is impossible to impact detonate. NASA tried, using such energetic methods as a pound of C4 and firing a projectile into a sample at a velocity of 6.1 kilometers per second. The 100 treats it like nitroglycerin. The "bomb" Raven builds is also ludicrously silly. A rifle bullet won't set off gunpowder. Even if it would, and the hydrazine worked as in the show, capping the coffee can with a piece of foil wouldn't hold pressure at all to cause the gunpowder to detonate. What would happen is the powder at the bullet impact would ignite, (which it wouldn't) creating a pressure wave that would blow most of the powder out of the can unburned. If the magic "hydrazine" detonated, its explosive force would initially be directed up, then in the next millisecond outward as the can split. In any event, no chemical bomb packed into a 2 pound coffee can is going to make such a large mushroom cloud, nor would it take down the bridge by simply being set on top of the road deck. The episode is practically a Nuked the Fridge abuse of Checkov's Gun. When making the bomb was introduced, I immediately called it Checkov's Hydrazine.

* The show's use of hydrazine is completely bonkers. Raven dips a rock in some of the red fluid then throws it and upon landing it explodes violently. In reality hydrazine is a colorless liquid monopropellant that is impossible to impact detonate. NASA tried, using such energetic methods as a pound of C4 and firing a projectile into a sample at a velocity of 6.1 kilometers per second. The 100 treats it like nitroglycerin. The "bomb" Raven builds is also ludicrously silly. A rifle bullet won't set off gunpowder. Even if it would, and the hydrazine worked as in the show, capping the coffee can with a piece of foil wouldn't hold pressure at all to cause the gunpowder to detonate. What would happen is the powder at the bullet impact would ignite, creating a pressure wave that would blow most of the powder out of the can unburned. If the magic "hydrazine" detonated, its explosive force would initially be directed up, then in the next millisecond outward as the can split. In any event, no chemical bomb packed into a 2 pound coffee can is going to make such a large mushroom cloud, nor would it take down the bridge by simply being set on top of the road deck. The episode is practically a Nuked the Fridge abuse of Checkov's Gun. When making the bomb was introduced, I immediately called it Checkov's Hydrazine.

* In the heat of the moment, it's very easy to wonder why [[spoiler: Lexa didn't just [[RewardedAsATraitorDeserves charge the Mountain]] the moment their captives were released.]] It's a pretty stark turnaround from ''Jus drein jus daun'' to meekly cooperating with whatever the Mountain Men ask. Then you realize that, as ''Heda'', Lexa absolutely cannot afford to have even ''one'' example of a time when she negotiated a truce, and then went back on her word the moment she got what she wanted. Her credibility would be ''gone'', and she would never be able to maintain control of the tribes.

** And the fact that she doesn't explain ''anything'' lends credibility to this. Lexa has been genuinely falling for Clarke since they met. She doesn't try to justify herself because she knew when she made the deal that she was choosing her duty to the captive Grounders over what she knew was right--as she said, it was a logical choice, not an emotional one. Heda Lexa, who claims love is weakness and emotions make you vulnerable, can't even explain her decision because she's ''ashamed of herself''.