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* Yubaba, in her MamaBear fury, grabs Haku with her hair and demands where her baby is while breathing fire at him. [[TheStoic Haku]] barely reacts but one factor that aids in his calm resistance is that he is a river spirit, therefore fire coming from Yubaba's mouth can't hurt him as much.

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* Yubaba, in her MamaBear fury, grabs Haku with her hair and demands where her baby baby, is while breathing fire at him. [[TheStoic Haku]] barely reacts reacts, but one key factor that aids in his calm resistance is that he is how he's a river spirit, therefore river-spirit, [[ElementalRockPaperScissors so fire coming from Yubaba's mouth can't hurt him as much.]]


* If Yubaba and Zeniba are truly the same person, it would add a new dimension to the scene where Zeniba tells Chihiro she has a pretty name and reminds her to take care of it-this could be Yubaba withholding ownership of what she took from Chihiro earlier. (In the Japanese version, she clearly says, "Take care of [your name]. It's yours.")

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* If Yubaba and Zeniba are truly the same person, it would add a new dimension to the scene where Zeniba tells Chihiro she has a pretty name and reminds her to take care of it-this it - this could be Yubaba withholding ownership of what she took from Chihiro earlier. (In the Japanese version, she clearly says, "Take care of [your name]. It's yours.")


*** Can't argue with the pig argument, but there are way too many coals for them to ''all'' be transformed humans. More likely, Yubaba was just using the coal example as a spontaneous threat because she was looking at the fire behind Chihiro.

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* It’s not explained what the black shadows on the train are. However, it’s possible that they’re the souls of the humans that have been killed in the spirit world over the years. It would explain why they’re on a train in the spirit world: As soon as the humans’ bodies die, their souls are released, and they take the train back to the human world so that they can move on to the next life.
** When Haku brings Chihiro to see her parents, you can briefly see a piglet standing in a pen among the adult pigs. Later, Chihiro sees the shadow ghost of a little girl on the train’s platform. That little girl was probably the piglet, killed in the kitchen and then returning in ghost form to get on the train. It can be assumed that her parents haven’t been killed and eaten yet, which is why she’s all alone on the platform: she’s waiting for them to join her.


*** Can't argue with the pig argument, but there are way too many coals for them to ''all'' be transformed humans. More likely, Yubaba was just using the coal example as a spontaneous threat because she was looking at the fire behind Chihiro.
**** Even if the coals are transformed humans, the horror of it is lessened slightly when you realize that transformed creatures don’t remember they were originally anything else. So at least the humans, being turned into non-sentient objects, won’t feel a thing when they’re tossed into the fire.



** The fact that Kamaji tells Chihiro that the train only goes one-way. First, you might only think about how physically she wouldn't be able to return to the bathhouse by train. Then you realize that this is an AfterlifeExpress and Kamaji mentions that the train used to go both ways. Those that go on this train (aside from Chihiro) depart from the spirit world entirely.

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** The train may be the main mode of transportation for souls, but clearly it goes to more places, as evidenced by Chihiro’s ride to Zeneba’s house; this proves that it’s not just a vehicle for the dead. Lin likely wants to ride it so she can explore the rest of the spirit world, not because she wants to die.
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The fact that Kamaji tells Chihiro that the train only goes one-way. First, you might only think about how physically she wouldn't be able to return to the bathhouse by train. Then you realize that this is an AfterlifeExpress and Kamaji mentions that the train used to go both ways. Those that go on this train (aside from Chihiro) depart from the spirit world entirely.


* In the Japanese version (with English subtitles), Yubaba observes that the "Stink Spirit" choose to hide itself in the rain. So, ''of course'' it would be so appropriate for the River-Kami to select a rainy day that might quell his stench and pain and allow himself to be accepted (a little more easily) into the bathhouse.
** It could also be that, as a water spirit, rain follows him everywhere, or he is at least capable of summoning it at will.

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* In the Japanese version (with English subtitles), Yubaba observes that the "Stink Spirit" choose to hide itself in the rain. So, ''of course'' it would be so appropriate for the River-Kami to select a rainy day that might quell his stench and pain and allow himself to be accepted (a little more easily) into the bathhouse.
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bathhouse. It could also be that, as a water spirit, rain follows him everywhere, or he is at least capable of summoning it at will.



* In the middle of the story, after Chihiro gives the River-Kami a bath, he flies away and we can see him after being cleaned up. It's very fast, but it's possible to figure out he's a very elder and white dragon(I actually only saw that on my third or forth watching). And who else is a white dragon? [[{{Foreshadowing}} And what does that person turn out to be in the end?]]

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* In the middle of the story, after Chihiro gives the River-Kami a bath, he flies away and we can see him after being cleaned up. It's very fast, but it's possible to figure out he's a very elder and white dragon(I actually only saw that on my third or forth watching).dragon. And who else is a white dragon? [[{{Foreshadowing}} And what does that person turn out to be in the end?]]



* In the Japanese dub, it's easy to tell what's going on if you're paying close enough attention. Chihiro is able to figure out with very little information that the dragon she observes getting attacked by paper dolls outside the bath house is actually Haku, and she expresses surprise that Yubaba can't recognize her son when he's traveling with her in the form of a mouse. Chihiro seems to have a talent for seeing into the heart of a person. This is exemplified when she looks into the pen full of pigs at the end of the movie and realizes none of them are her transformed parents.

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* In the Japanese dub, version, it's easy to tell what's going on if you're paying close enough attention. Chihiro is able to figure out with very little information that the dragon she observes getting attacked by paper dolls outside the bath house is actually Haku, and she expresses surprise that Yubaba can't recognize her son when he's traveling with her in the form of a mouse. Chihiro seems to have a talent for seeing into the heart of a person. This is exemplified when she looks into the pen full of pigs at the end of the movie and realizes none of them are her transformed parents.



** There's also the fact that Chihiro would have been eating solid meals the entire time she was at the bath house -- those porkbuns? PEOPLE.
*** Let's hope that the spirits also breed normal pigs in addition to taking polymorphed humans. After all, there couldn't be ''that'' many people getting themselves caught in the spirit world... [[ParanoiaFuel right?]]
** Also, Lin comments calmly enough that she wants to leave the bathhouse by the train, and gets excited at seeing tickets. Then you get to see [[AfterlifeExpress who gets on the train]]. [[DrivenToSuicide Wait a minute...]]

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** There's also the fact that Chihiro would have been eating solid meals the entire time she was at the bath house -- those porkbuns? PEOPLE.
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PEOPLE. Let's hope that the spirits also breed normal pigs in addition to taking polymorphed humans. After all, there couldn't be ''that'' many people getting themselves caught in the spirit world... [[ParanoiaFuel right?]]
** Also, * Lin comments calmly enough that she wants to leave the bathhouse by the train, and gets excited at seeing tickets. Then you get to see [[AfterlifeExpress who gets on the train]]. [[DrivenToSuicide Wait a minute...]]



* Look carefully at the tunnel right before Chihiro enters the spirit world, and right after she exits. In the time she spent there, the arc has become overgrown with moss and the face of the statue has completely eroded away... just how long were they in there, anyway?
** In addition to that, some fans speculate that it could take at least a decade to fully erode the sculpture, or even the moss-covered arc, but in addition, note the trees, which look entirely different. ''[[FishOutOfTemporalWater They could've been in there for 20-30 years]]''.
*** Luckily, the art book points out that this is apparently normal summer growth in Japan. Also, the car is fine and starts right up.
*** Without cold weather or specific fuel preservatives, gas goes bad in about three months. Therefore, no more than that much time has passed in the real world.
** Alternatively, it could have been to show how much Chihiro changed the spirit world, or a rather literal version of the Spirit World being 'covered up' or similar, without time passing in the real world so much.
** It's possible that three days passed in the real world as well, but that the spirits moved the car around to a different entrance to the bathhouse. Chihiro's family didn't enter the same way they left by. And it's the kind of mischief spirits are known for.
** The Bathhouse has clearly been running for a very long time, but when entering the archway, the Dad states that it's pretty new. Maybe the newness was an illusion, and the illusion broke after they left the spirit world, allowing the archway and statue to show its true age.

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* Look carefully at the tunnel right before Chihiro enters the spirit world, and right after she exits. In the time she spent there, the arc has become overgrown with moss and moss, the face of the statue has completely eroded away... just how long were they in there, anyway?
** In addition to that, some fans speculate that it could take at least a decade to fully erode the sculpture, or even the moss-covered arc, but in addition, note the trees, which look entirely different. ''[[FishOutOfTemporalWater They could've been in there for 20-30 years]]''.
*** Luckily, the art book points out that this is apparently normal summer growth in Japan. Also,
away, and the car is fine and starts right up.
*** Without cold weather or specific fuel preservatives, gas goes bad
has notably become covered in about three months. Therefore, no more than leaves. While the car starting up means that much time has passed in the real world.
** Alternatively, it could
they couldn't have been to show how much Chihiro changed the spirit world, or a rather literal version of the Spirit World being 'covered up' or similar, without time passing in the real world so much.
** It's possible that three days passed in the real world as well, but that the spirits moved the car around to a different entrance to the bathhouse.
gone for ''too'' long, Chihiro's family didn't enter the same way parents are probably in for an unpleasant surprise when they left by. And it's try to go to the kind of mischief spirits are known for.
** The Bathhouse has clearly
house they were supposed to move into that day (and which Chihiro's mother was worried about them being late for,) not to mention her father's new job that would have been running for a very long time, but when entering the archway, the Dad states that it's pretty new. Maybe the newness was an illusion, and the illusion broke after they left the spirit world, allowing the archway and statue to show its true age.expecting him.



* Haku was sent to steal Zeneba's gold seal. In most legalities a seal on a will is just as legal as a signature. Since Yubaba can only control those, whose names she's stolen, she wanted that seal to control her sister. No wonder Zeneba was mad.
* If Sen [[spoiler: and Haku]] had never met,[[spoiler:...as Chihiro and Kohaku, the river spirit, she would have probably been long turned into food, her parents, forever pigs and Haku would have remained a slave to Yubaba .... forever.]]

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* Haku was sent to steal Zeneba's gold seal. In most legalities a seal on a will is just as legal as a signature. Since Yubaba can only control those, those whose names she's stolen, she wanted that seal to control her sister. No wonder Zeneba Zeniba was mad.
* If Sen [[spoiler: and Haku]] Haku had never met,[[spoiler:...met as Chihiro and Kohaku, the river spirit, she would have probably been long turned into food, her parents, parents forever pigs pigs, and Haku would have remained a slave to Yubaba .... forever.]]
forever.



** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back may just be a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.

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** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back may just be is a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.


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** I had the opposite revelation. I assumed the above was the case upon my first viewing, but after having to do a report on Japanese theater several years later, I realized that he didn't have ''no'' face, he had a ''Noh'' face! -Tropy [=McTroperPants=]
*** Japanese name is ''Kao-nashi'' ("without a face"), so, not really.
*** It is clearly a Noh mask. So yes really. It just means it was brilliance on the part of the translator, not the Japanese screenwriter.
*** English is a required series of classes in most if not all Japanese high schools, and the Japanese are rather fond of bilingual English-Japanese puns, including visual puns. So it's likely that Kao-nashi included the bilingual No/Noh pun as well.

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** I had the opposite revelation. I assumed the above was the case upon my first viewing, but after having to do It also doubles as a report on Japanese theater several years later, I realized that pun. His name isn't just No Face he didn't have ''no'' face, he also had a ''Noh'' face! -Tropy [=McTroperPants=]
*** Japanese name is ''Kao-nashi'' ("without a face"), so, not really.
*** It is clearly a Noh mask. So yes really. It just means it was brilliance on the part of the translator, not the Japanese screenwriter.
*** English is a required series of classes in most if not all Japanese high schools, and the Japanese are rather fond of bilingual English-Japanese puns, including visual puns. So it's likely that Kao-nashi included the bilingual No/Noh pun as well.
face!



* In the middle of the story, after Chihiro gives the River-Kami a bath, he flies away and we can see him after being cleaned up. It's very fast, but it's possible to figure out he's a very elder and white dragon(I actually only saw that on my third or forth watching). And who else is a white dragon? [[{{Foreshadowing}} And what does that person turn out to be in the end?]] -- Tropers/{{Pro-Mole}}
** The only thing that can cure Haku is the River Kami's gift. [[spoiler:It's logical that medicine from a river would cure another river.]]
* Chihiro tries the medicine not long after being given it, only for it to make her gag with it implied to be quite disgusting, as is common with medicine. However, both times it is used, saving [[spoiler:Haku from Zeniba's curse]] and [[spoiler:making No Face release his victims]], it is precisely the fact that it [[spoiler:induced vomiting]] that made it useful.
** It's also worth noting that the medicine's ability to [[spoiler:purge or cleanse]] mirrors how Chihiro [[spoiler:helped cleaning the river spirit from things that damaged it]].
* Yubaba, in her MamaBear fury, grabs Haku with her hair and demands where her baby is while breathing fire at him. [[TheStoic Haku]] barely reacts but one factor that aids in his calm resistance is that [[spoiler: he is a river spirit]], therefore fire coming from Yubaba's mouth can't hurt him as much.
** It certainly would hurt [[spoiler:a river spirit]] if they were [[spoiler:the spirit of the Kohaku river!]]
** Adding on to that, it's mentioned that [[spoiler:the river spirit Chihiro helps cleanse of pollution]] is very powerful, and that [[spoiler:Yubaba had to put a black slug into Haku just to control him]], whereas stealing names is enough for everyone else. It stands to reason that [[spoiler:river spirits]] would be quite powerful even without this evidence ([[spoiler:rivers]] can be rather formidable forces of nature), so it's possible that Haku doesn't react because, [[spoiler:free from the slug's influence, he's actually more powerful than Yubaba.]]
** Or it affects him as much as it would anyone, and he's just that much TheStoic.
* When Chihiro chose that [[spoiler:neither of her parents]] were in the pig herd presented. That scene also has another meaning that basically says that [[spoiler:''her parents are not pigs'' for she is a human being, not just a mere animal]].
** That was something I've always considered brutally unfair. Now I see the sheer brilliance of it all.
*** The unfairness still remains when you remember Chihiro has only one guess but has to pick two pigs as parents so logically that one guess should only allow her to point out one, even if they were there.
** This troper disagrees. Miyazaki is not the kind of man who would believe humanity to be any different or any better than animals, and in fact almost always has undertones in his films equating human life to animal life and driving the point home that we're no different than they are. Read into the scene however you like, but I guarantee the above idea was not at all his intention with that scene. She was able to tell they weren't in there for two possible reasons: either because Yubaba is a known trickster, or because she didn't feel the parent/child connection to any of those pigs. When she first went to the stable where the pigs are kept, she was emotional, distraught, and unfocused. She wasn't yet mature enough to notice the connection. By the time her adventure had finished, she'd matured enough to stay focused and recognize that she didn't feel that connection with any of the present pigs. Of course, this is only my personal speculation as well, but it's certainly more believable than a Miyazaki film implying that humanity is somehow on a better or higher level than animals. -EBsessed
*** It bears remembering that she visits the pigpen twice. First is with Haku, who points out her parents to Chihiro and they are easy to tell apart from the other pigs because they are deep asleep whereas the others are awake, this being when it's already bright out. The second time is when she tried to take the Rivergod's medicine to them to see if it can help them turn back, but then the pigs (about 20 of them at least) who see her hold out something like food swarm hear her and nearly break the fences so of course she would be confused about where her parents are. When Yubaba puts her to the test, there are only 8 pigs to pick from and they are all calm.
** In the Japanese dub, it's easy to tell what's going on if you're paying close enough attention. Chihiro is able to figure out with very little information that the dragon she observes getting attacked by paper dolls outside the bath house is actually Haku, and she expresses surprise that Yubaba can't recognize her son when he's traveling with her in the form of a mouse. Chihiro seems to have a talent for seeing into the heart of a person. This is exemplified when she looks into the pen full of pigs at the end of the movie and realizes none of them are her transformed parents.

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* In the middle of the story, after Chihiro gives the River-Kami a bath, he flies away and we can see him after being cleaned up. It's very fast, but it's possible to figure out he's a very elder and white dragon(I actually only saw that on my third or forth watching). And who else is a white dragon? [[{{Foreshadowing}} And what does that person turn out to be in the end?]] -- Tropers/{{Pro-Mole}}
end?]]
** The only thing that can cure Haku is the River Kami's gift. [[spoiler:It's It's logical that medicine from a river would cure another river.]]
river.
* Chihiro tries the medicine not long after being given it, only for it to make her gag with it implied to be quite disgusting, as is common with medicine. However, both times it is used, saving [[spoiler:Haku Haku from Zeniba's curse]] curse and [[spoiler:making making No Face release his victims]], victims, it is precisely the fact that it [[spoiler:induced vomiting]] induced vomiting that made it useful.
** It's also worth noting that the medicine's ability to [[spoiler:purge purge or cleanse]] cleanse mirrors how Chihiro [[spoiler:helped helped cleaning the river spirit from things that damaged it]].
it.
* Yubaba, in her MamaBear fury, grabs Haku with her hair and demands where her baby is while breathing fire at him. [[TheStoic Haku]] barely reacts but one factor that aids in his calm resistance is that [[spoiler: he is a river spirit]], spirit, therefore fire coming from Yubaba's mouth can't hurt him as much.
** It certainly would hurt [[spoiler:a river spirit]] if they were [[spoiler:the spirit of the Kohaku river!]]
**
Adding on to that, it's mentioned that [[spoiler:the the river spirit Chihiro helps cleanse of pollution]] pollution is very powerful, and that [[spoiler:Yubaba Yubaba had to put a black slug into Haku just to control him]], him, whereas stealing names is enough for everyone else. It stands to reason that [[spoiler:river spirits]] river spirits would be quite powerful even without this evidence ([[spoiler:rivers]] (rivers can be rather formidable forces of nature), so it's possible that Haku doesn't react because, [[spoiler:free free from the slug's influence, he's actually more powerful than Yubaba.]]
** Or it affects him as much as it would anyone, and he's just that much TheStoic.
Yubaba.
* When Chihiro chose that [[spoiler:neither neither of her parents]] parents were in the pig herd presented. That scene also has another meaning that basically says that [[spoiler:''her ''her parents are not pigs'' for she is a human being, not just a mere animal]].
** That was something I've always considered brutally unfair. Now I see the sheer brilliance of it all.
*** The unfairness still remains when you remember Chihiro has only one guess but has to pick two pigs as parents so logically that one guess should only allow her to point out one, even if they were there.
** This troper disagrees. Miyazaki is not the kind of man who would believe humanity to be any different or any better than animals, and in fact almost always has undertones in his films equating human life to animal life and driving the point home that we're no different than they are. Read into the scene however you like, but I guarantee the above idea was not at all his intention with that scene. She was able to tell they weren't in there for two possible reasons: either because Yubaba is a known trickster, or because she didn't feel the parent/child connection to any of those pigs. When she first went to the stable where the pigs are kept, she was emotional, distraught, and unfocused. She wasn't yet mature enough to notice the connection. By the time her adventure had finished, she'd matured enough to stay focused and recognize that she didn't feel that connection with any of the present pigs. Of course, this is only my personal speculation as well, but it's certainly more believable than a Miyazaki film implying that humanity is somehow on a better or higher level than animals. -EBsessed
*** It bears remembering that she visits the pigpen twice. First is with Haku, who points out her parents to Chihiro and they are easy to tell apart from the other pigs because they are deep asleep whereas the others are awake, this being when it's already bright out. The second time is when she tried to take the Rivergod's medicine to them to see if it can help them turn back, but then the pigs (about 20 of them at least) who see her hold out something like food swarm hear her and nearly break the fences so of course she would be confused about where her parents are. When Yubaba puts her to the test, there are only 8 pigs to pick from and they are all calm.
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animal.
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In the Japanese dub, it's easy to tell what's going on if you're paying close enough attention. Chihiro is able to figure out with very little information that the dragon she observes getting attacked by paper dolls outside the bath house is actually Haku, and she expresses surprise that Yubaba can't recognize her son when he's traveling with her in the form of a mouse. Chihiro seems to have a talent for seeing into the heart of a person. This is exemplified when she looks into the pen full of pigs at the end of the movie and realizes none of them are her transformed parents.



** This seems entirely possible to me. I was rewatching it the other day and I was hit with the revelation that they might be the same person. I realized it when Chihiro calls Yubaba "Granny" after returning from Zeniba's cottage in Swamp Bottom where Zeniba, not Yubaba, asked Chihiro to call her "Granny". I realize this might have been added to show that Chihiro realized there may be two sides to Yubaba and that they are one and the same. Yes, this is a bit of a stretch. I did read on Sparknotes that they might represent good and evil in the spirit world
* As stated in FoodChains, the reason Chihiro didn't turn into a pig like her parents is because she only ate food that was offered to her by a spirit. FridgeBrilliance comes that the only times Chihiro is seen eating in the spirit world was when someone offered her food. Two times were by Haku (what appears to be a fruit and rice balls), another time by the River Kami with the medicine, another by Lin with the pork bun and at the end with Zeniba with the tea and desserts.

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** This seems entirely possible to me. I was rewatching it the other day and I was hit with the revelation that they might be the same person. I realized it when Chihiro calls Yubaba "Granny" after returning from Zeniba's cottage in Swamp Bottom where Zeniba, not Yubaba, asked Chihiro to call her "Granny". I realize this might have been added to show that Chihiro realized there may be two sides to Yubaba and that they are one and the same. Yes, this is a bit of a stretch. I did read on Sparknotes that they might represent good and evil in the spirit world
* As stated in FoodChains, the The reason Chihiro didn't turn into a pig like her parents is because she only ate food that was offered to her by a spirit. FridgeBrilliance comes that the only times Chihiro is seen eating in the spirit world was when someone offered her food. Two times were by Haku (what appears to be a fruit and rice balls), another time by the River Kami with the medicine, another by Lin with the pork bun and at the end with Zeniba with the tea and desserts.



* If you look carefully No-Face only eats the people that accept his [[spoiler: Illusion]] gifts. This raises two possibilities. One is that because the soak token wasn't his he couldn't eat Chihiro after giving it to her. Two, is that he is constantly trying to get her to take the gold, so he can eat her.
** Or it could be that - as stated in the first Fridge comment - No Face takes on the personality of those around him, so when he is faced with people who would take his gold, he is overcome by their avarice and his appetite is insatiable. However, when interacting with Chihiro, who only takes what she needs (like the bath token) and never more, his hunger is gone.



* Haku is the very first person who's friendly to Chihiro and patient with her fear and loneliness. On finding out his real identity as [[spoiler: the Kohaku River,]] ''of course'' this makes sense. [[spoiler: Humans gravitate to bodies of fresh water for survival, so he's probably lived for ''centuries'' with them.]] --{{Tropers/Sharysa}}

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* Haku is the very first person who's friendly to Chihiro and patient with her fear and loneliness. On finding out his real identity as [[spoiler: the Kohaku River,]] River, ''of course'' this makes sense. [[spoiler: Humans gravitate to bodies of fresh water for survival, so he's probably lived for ''centuries'' with them.]] --{{Tropers/Sharysa}}



* When the [[spoiler: river god/]]stink spirit passes by Lin holding two bowls of rice, the rice turns black and crumbles. Given Lin is cringing from the smell, it might be safe to assume that it was implying it stank so badly that it spoiled the rice. However, rice is also known as a sponge for negative energy and impurities. It wasn't that the spirit stank that badly, the rice was simply [[spoiler: absorbing the impurities from the polluted river spirit.]]

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* When the [[spoiler: river god/]]stink god/stink spirit passes by Lin holding two bowls of rice, the rice turns black and crumbles. Given Lin is cringing from the smell, it might be safe to assume that it was implying it stank so badly that it spoiled the rice. However, rice is also known as a sponge for negative energy and impurities. It wasn't that the spirit stank that badly, the rice was simply [[spoiler: absorbing the impurities from the polluted river spirit.]]


*** Has the above ever heard of Intentional Fallacy? Whatever the artist's intentions were has no bearing on a deepest look at the work. Any work stands on its own, with the author's purpose having no more weight than many particular viewing.



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* When Chihiro comes to the aid of the bath house staff, and Yubaba comes to confront her, she sees the mouse on Chihiro's shoulder (actually her son in disguise) and is vocally disgusted, along with believing the three heads transformed weren't her actual son. This may be because he was disguised with her sister's magic, but seeing as Yubaba has similar magic she should have seen through the trick. This is brilliant in its own way, as it sets up Chihiro eventually seeing through the trick of Yubaba's final test. Chihiro has the heart to see through to what other peoples' true selves are, while Yubaba is sharp and believes only in what she sees outwardly of people.


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* By "Don't look back," Haku also meant that Chihiro should not tell anyone else about her experience in the spirit world after she returned.
** It may also be a reference to the Greek tale of Orpheus - he went to Hades to save his lover, Eurydice, on the condition that he doesn't look back until he leaves. He does look back when he is out, but not when Eurydice leaves - leaving her trapped in Hades for eternity.
** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back may just be a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.
* Eating food at an apparently abandoned theme park is a pretty bad idea, even without spirit world creepiness. They just start eating food that has just been sitting out for-- if not years, months, weeks, or days, then at least hours.
** While it was a superbly stupid idea to assume that all that food lying there was okay to eat even if they intended to pay as soon as any personnel showed, the food did smell and look fresh out of the oven/pan/pot/whatever that respective dish was made in and despite it being warm enough weather to not wear sweaters or coats there were no flies flying around.
* It's worth noting that the act of simply smelling the food may have started affecting the parents' minds almost immediately - as soon as they smell it, it's all they care about. Granted, while they had been traveling for likely several hours and were probably hungry and wanted to stretch their legs, there's still a few additional cues:
** Chihiro's mother impatiently tells her to "hurry it up" as Chihiro struggles to cross the river with its huge rocks. Neither parent really makes an effort to help her, but the dad actively extends a hand to the mother to grab. They begin heading off without her. Bratty or not, parents typically keep their kids close in unfamiliar areas.
** Even if they had intended to pay for the food as soon as the workers came back, they seem to almost immediately attack the food upon reaching the stalls with little to no hesitation. Sure, they were hungry, but typically, even hungry people at least converse during their meals, or start to eat a bit slower. Chihiro's parents almost immediately started GORGING themselves once they'd had that first taste. They barely slow down to consider what they're eating and eventually start to take absolutely no notice of Chihiro.
** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.



* If Sen [[spoiler: and Haku]] had never met,[[spoiler:...as Chihiro and Kohaku, the river spirit, she would have probably been long turned into food, her parents, forever pigs and Haku would have remained a slave to Yubaba .... forever.]]

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* If Sen [[spoiler: and Haku]] had never met,[[spoiler:...as Chihiro and Kohaku, the river spirit, she would have probably been long turned into food, her parents, forever pigs and Haku would have remained a slave to Yubaba .... forever.]]]]

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* By "Don't look back," Haku also meant that Chihiro should not tell anyone else about her experience in the spirit world after she returned.
** It may also be a reference to the Greek tale of Orpheus - he went to Hades to save his lover, Eurydice, on the condition that he doesn't look back until he leaves. He does look back when he is out, but not when Eurydice leaves - leaving her trapped in Hades for eternity.
** Or Lot's family in the Bible. Don't Look Back may just be a common mythological/folkloric trope across many cultures, one of many that Miyazaki channels into his works.
* Eating food at an apparently abandoned theme park is a pretty bad idea, even without spirit world creepiness. They just start eating food that has just been sitting out for-- if not years, months, weeks, or days, then at least hours.
** While it was a superbly stupid idea to assume that all that food lying there was okay to eat even if they intended to pay as soon as any personnel showed, the food did smell and look fresh out of the oven/pan/pot/whatever that respective dish was made in and despite it being warm enough weather to not wear sweaters or coats there were no flies flying around.
* It's worth noting that the act of simply smelling the food may have started affecting the parents' minds almost immediately - as soon as they smell it, it's all they care about. Granted, while they had been traveling for likely several hours and were probably hungry and wanted to stretch their legs, there's still a few additional cues:
** Chihiro's mother impatiently tells her to "hurry it up" as Chihiro struggles to cross the river with its huge rocks. Neither parent really makes an effort to help her, but the dad actively extends a hand to the mother to grab. They begin heading off without her. Bratty or not, parents typically keep their kids close in unfamiliar areas.
** Even if they had intended to pay for the food as soon as the workers came back, they seem to almost immediately attack the food upon reaching the stalls with little to no hesitation. Sure, they were hungry, but typically, even hungry people at least converse during their meals, or start to eat a bit slower. Chihiro's parents almost immediately started GORGING themselves once they'd had that first taste. They barely slow down to consider what they're eating and eventually start to take absolutely no notice of Chihiro.
** Before Chihiro walks away in frustration, and even before they've even eaten a lot of food, you can hear very loud snorting and grunting from both of them as they continue to eat. Humans do not typically make these types of noises while eating. It's likely that they started to turn almost immediately after that first bite of food.


** It certainly would hurt [[spoiler:a river spirit]] if they were [[spoiler:the spirit of the Cuyahoga river!]]

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** It certainly would hurt [[spoiler:a river spirit]] if they were [[spoiler:the spirit of the Cuyahoga Kohaku river!]]



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* When the [[spoiler: river god/]]stink spirit passes by Lin holding two bowls of rice, the rice turns black and crumbles. Given Lin is cringing from the smell, it might be safe to assume that it was implying it stank so badly that it spoiled the rice. However, rice is also known as a sponge for negative energy and impurities. It wasn't that the spirit stank that badly, the rice was simply [[spoiler: absorbing the impurities from the polluted river spirit.]]

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*** Has the above ever heard of Intentional Fallacy? Whatever the artist's intentions were has no bearing on a deepest look at the work. Any work stands on its own, with the author's purpose having no more weight than many particular viewing.



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* It seems odd at first that Haku tells Chihiro to get a job from Kamaji when he ought to know that Kamaji employs sapient sootballs to do the work for him. In fact, Haku could have easily taken Chihiro to Yubaba to get her a job, without all the hiding. But there could be possible reasons for Haku to want Chihiro to seek out Kamaji's help:
** 1) Chihiro needs friends in the bathhouse. She needs other beings to look out for her when Haku can't, as shown when Kamaji covers for Chihiro when Lin brings him lunch, and when Lin despite herself starts to care for the younger girl. Haku has to spend his day and night running various errands for Yubaba, while Chihiro would be working in the bathhouse.
** 2) Yubaba could have easily realized that Chihiro was special to Haku, and might have stopped the duo before Haku and Chihiro could even ask for a job. It wouldn't have been hard for her to compel Haku to even kill Chihiro or stop her in such a fashion.

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** Or it affects him as much as it would anyone, and he's just that much TheStoic.

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