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* Despite Spirit having been gone for at least several months, the two foals in his herd have not grown at all when he returns.

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* Despite Spirit having been gone for at least several months, the two foals in his herd have not grown at all when he returns.


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* Despite Spirit having been gone for at least several months, the two foals in his herd have not grown at all when he returns.
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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They were also released almost a minute before the fire started spreading. They'll survive just fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be met.

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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They were also released almost a minute before the fire started spreading. They'll survive just fine, although they'll and those that were stolen will probably head make their way back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again.resume their previous lives. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not ''not'' going to be met.
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**Another meaning can be attributed to the second part of the title: "cimarron" is Spanish for "wild" (or "untamed," which also fits Spirit). It's a nod to how Spirit truly is a part of the wild, and can never be broken or domesticated.



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* The title of the movie is quite fitting, not just because of [[MeaningfulName Spirit's name]], but because of the secondary part of the title: "[[FatherToHisMen Stallion of the Cimarron]]". In a way, this is basically the horse equivalent of "man of the people". It suits Spirit because as the leader of his herd, he truly cares about them. This same trait is also what got him captured in the first place: to save the herd he loved so dearly, he had to surrender his freedom (but not his free will).
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** Also, consider where Mustangs and Brumbies came from: domesticated horses that got loose/were released. Some of them will probably die, all of them will have a hard first few months, but they'll probably be able to figure something out eventually, especially if they can find an existing herd they can join. Provided they don't just run to where they consider "home" and that there actually is something there as suggested above.

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** Also, consider where Mustangs and Brumbies came from: domesticated horses that got loose/were released. Some of them will probably die, all of them will have a hard first few months, but they'll probably be able to figure something out eventually, especially if they can find an existing herd they can join. Provided they don't just run to where they consider "home" and that there actually is something there as suggested above.above.
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** Also, consider where Mustangs and Brumbies came from: domesticated horses that got loose/were released. Some of them will probably die, all of them will have a hard first months, but they'll probably be able to figure something out eventually, especially if they can find an existing herd they can join. Provided they don't just run to where they consider "home" and that there actually is something there as suggested above.

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** Also, consider where Mustangs and Brumbies came from: domesticated horses that got loose/were released. Some of them will probably die, all of them will have a hard first few months, but they'll probably be able to figure something out eventually, especially if they can find an existing herd they can join. Provided they don't just run to where they consider "home" and that there actually is something there as suggested above.
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* Consider what happened to all of those domesticated horses that Spirit "freed:" they likely have no knowledge of how to survive in the wild, and the ones released from the locomotive are still in chains as they run into a freaking ''forest fire.''.

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* Consider what happened to all of those domesticated horses that Spirit "freed:" they likely have no knowledge of how to survive in the wild, and the ones released from the locomotive are still in chains as they run into a freaking ''forest fire.''.fire''.
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* Despite Spirit having been gone for at least several months, the two foals in his herd have not grown at all when he returns.
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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They were also released almost a minute before the fire started spreading. They'll survive just fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be met.

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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They were also released almost a minute before the fire started spreading. They'll survive just fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be met.met.
** Also, consider where Mustangs and Brumbies came from: domesticated horses that got loose/were released. Some of them will probably die, all of them will have a hard first months, but they'll probably be able to figure something out eventually, especially if they can find an existing herd they can join. Provided they don't just run to where they consider "home" and that there actually is something there as suggested above.
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* After re-watching ''WesternAnimation/SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' recently, I suddenly realised something about the '[[UnfortunateImplications All-Horses-Should-Be-Free]]' message, especially when you conside just ''who'' is telling the story - Spirit! As a wild horse, it's made clear in the film that prior to meeting the humans at the campsite, he has had no experience them before, and would have known nothing about domesticated horses. And so in Spirit's eyes (a wild horse) the best place for ''any'' horse is to be is therefore free and in the wild. Another thing that also struck me is the way the humans are portrayed, stemming from how they in turn treated Spirit. At the Fort, Spirit was tied without food or water, had his mane cut off, was almost branded, and was almost forcibly broken in, whilst at the Railroad he was forced to heft a Locomotive engine over a hill, going towards his homeland. Compare those to the Lakota camp, where Spirit was pretty much free to wander around (albeit tied to Rain to prevent him from leaving), eating apples and doing whatever the heck he wanted. It makes sense for him then portray them in a better light than any of the other humans! - [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} KingSonnDeeDoo]]
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* After re-watching ''SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' recently, I suddenly realised something about the '[[UnfortunateImplications All-Horses-Should-Be-Free]]' message, especially when you conside just ''who'' is telling the story - Spirit! As a wild horse, it's made clear in the film that prior to meeting the humans at the campsite, he has had no experience them before, and would have known nothing about domesticated horses. And so in Spirit's eyes (a wild horse) the best place for ''any'' horse is to be is therefore free and in the wild. Another thing that also struck me is the way the humans are portrayed, stemming from how they in turn treated Spirit. At the Fort, Spirit was tied without food or water, had his mane cut off, was almost branded, and was almost forcibly broken in, whilst at the Railroad he was forced to heft a Locomotive engine over a hill, going towards his homeland. Compare those to the Lakota camp, where Spirit was pretty much free to wander around (albeit tied to Rain to prevent him from leaving), eating apples and doing whatever the heck he wanted. It makes sense for him then portray them in a better light than any of the other humans! - [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} KingSonnDeeDoo]]

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* After re-watching ''SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' ''WesternAnimation/SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' recently, I suddenly realised something about the '[[UnfortunateImplications All-Horses-Should-Be-Free]]' message, especially when you conside just ''who'' is telling the story - Spirit! As a wild horse, it's made clear in the film that prior to meeting the humans at the campsite, he has had no experience them before, and would have known nothing about domesticated horses. And so in Spirit's eyes (a wild horse) the best place for ''any'' horse is to be is therefore free and in the wild. Another thing that also struck me is the way the humans are portrayed, stemming from how they in turn treated Spirit. At the Fort, Spirit was tied without food or water, had his mane cut off, was almost branded, and was almost forcibly broken in, whilst at the Railroad he was forced to heft a Locomotive engine over a hill, going towards his homeland. Compare those to the Lakota camp, where Spirit was pretty much free to wander around (albeit tied to Rain to prevent him from leaving), eating apples and doing whatever the heck he wanted. It makes sense for him then portray them in a better light than any of the other humans! - [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} KingSonnDeeDoo]]
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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They'll survive just fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be met.

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** Many of the horses were stolen from the Lakota. They were also released almost a minute before the fire started spreading. They'll survive just fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be met.
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** It's implied that many of the horses were free, before being broken in. They'll survive just fine. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. It's not going to be ready for work again in a hurry.

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** It's implied that many Many of the horses were free, before being broken in. stolen from the Lakota. They'll survive just fine.fine, although they'll probably head back to the Lakota camp to be ridden again. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. It's That's not something rectified for two bucks and a packet of gum. The humans mentioned a six day deadline that is definitely not going to be ready for work again in a hurry.met.
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* Consider what happened to all of those domesticated horses that Spirit "freed:" they likely have no knowledge of how to survive in the wild, and the ones released from the locomotive are still in chains as they run into a freaking ''forest fire.''.

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* Consider what happened to all of those domesticated horses that Spirit "freed:" they likely have no knowledge of how to survive in the wild, and the ones released from the locomotive are still in chains as they run into a freaking ''forest fire.''.


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** It's implied that many of the horses were free, before being broken in. They'll survive just fine. As for the railroad, the ''entire camp'' was destroyed, as well as two locomotives. They lost all their horses too. It's not going to be ready for work again in a hurry.
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** They were actually running away from the forest fire, which started all the way back where they came from. (The train slid ''down'' the mountain). They're domesticated horses; they'll end up back at the place they left, their owners will feed them and patch them up, and when a replacement locomotive comes they'll pull it over the mountain and then have a nice rest before being shipped back East to a comfortable stable. Humans are only [[HumansAreBastards Bastards]] if you're a wild animal who wants to stay that way.
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* Consider what happened to all of those domesticated horses that Spirit "freed:" they likely have no knowledge of how to survive in the wild, and the ones released from the locomotive are still in chains as they run into a freaking ''forest fire.''.
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* After re-watching ''SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' recently, I suddenly realised something about the '[[UnfortunateImplications All-Horses-Should-Be-Free]]' message, especially when you conside just ''who'' is telling the story - Spirit! As a wild horse, it's made clear in the film that prior to meeting the humans at the campsite, he has had no experience them before, and would have known nothing about domesticated horses. And so in Spirit's eyes (a wild horse) the best place for ''any'' horse is to be is therefore free and in the wild. Another thing that also struck me is the way the humans are portrayed, stemming from how they in turn treated Spirit. At the Fort, Spirit was tied without food or water, had his mane cut off, was almost branded, and was almost forcibly broken in, whilst at the Railroad he was forced to heft a Locomotive engine over a hill, going towards his homeland. Compare those to the Lakota camp, where Spirit was pretty much free to wander around (albit tied to Rain to prevent him from leaving), eating apples and doing whatever the heck he wanted. It makes sense for him then portray them in a better light than any of the other humans! - [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} KingSonnDeeDoo]]

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* After re-watching ''SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron'' recently, I suddenly realised something about the '[[UnfortunateImplications All-Horses-Should-Be-Free]]' message, especially when you conside just ''who'' is telling the story - Spirit! As a wild horse, it's made clear in the film that prior to meeting the humans at the campsite, he has had no experience them before, and would have known nothing about domesticated horses. And so in Spirit's eyes (a wild horse) the best place for ''any'' horse is to be is therefore free and in the wild. Another thing that also struck me is the way the humans are portrayed, stemming from how they in turn treated Spirit. At the Fort, Spirit was tied without food or water, had his mane cut off, was almost branded, and was almost forcibly broken in, whilst at the Railroad he was forced to heft a Locomotive engine over a hill, going towards his homeland. Compare those to the Lakota camp, where Spirit was pretty much free to wander around (albit (albeit tied to Rain to prevent him from leaving), eating apples and doing whatever the heck he wanted. It makes sense for him then portray them in a better light than any of the other humans! - [[{{Tropers/KingSonnDeeDoo}} KingSonnDeeDoo]]

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