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* If the comic Earth-616 is considered apart of the animated film multiverse, then it is plausible that Peter B. might have knowledge of the events surrounding "One More Day." In that particular event, Peter Parker made a controversial decision to sacrifice his marriage and the potential existence of his future daughter in order to save Aunt May, who was old and nearing death. Considering Peter B.'s experiences and personal growth as a father, witnessing the consequences of his past selfish actions, he may indeed see the parallels and lessons in Peter Parker's choices. This could shape Peter B.'s belief that such actions driven by self-interest can lead to further misery and complications down the line.

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* ** If the comic Earth-616 is considered apart of the animated film multiverse, then it is plausible that Peter B. might have knowledge of the events surrounding "One More Day." In that particular event, Peter Parker made a controversial decision to sacrifice his marriage and the potential existence of his future daughter in order to save Aunt May, who was old and nearing death. Considering Peter B.'s experiences and personal growth as a father, witnessing the consequences of his past selfish actions, he may indeed see the parallels and lessons in Peter Parker's choices. This could shape Peter B.'s belief that such actions driven by self-interest can lead to further misery and complications down the line.
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** Not only that, but the last time Gwen saw Miles, they left on bad terms, with Miles feeling enraged and distrustful towards Gwen, Peter B., and Peni. By including Ham, Noir, India, and Punk in their group, it could help foster trust in Miles and make him believe that they are truly on his side this time around.
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* If the comic Earth-616 is considered apart of the animated film multiverse, then it is plausible that Peter B. might have knowledge of the events surrounding "One More Day." In that particular event, Peter Parker made a controversial decision to sacrifice his marriage and the potential existence of his future daughter in order to save Aunt May, who was old and nearing death. Considering Peter B.'s experiences and personal growth as a father, witnessing the consequences of his past selfish actions, he may indeed see the parallels and lessons in Peter Parker's choices. This could shape Peter B.'s belief that such actions driven by self-interest can lead to further misery and complications down the line.
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* [[spoiler: Why would Gwen enlist Ham to help her find Miles aside from being a member of the original Spider-Gang? In the original ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' comic, Spider-Ham often appeared as an ally or a mentor to Gwen. This is because he reminded her of an imaginary friend she used to have. With Miles completely against her, Gwen could use some comfort and be among friends aside from Peter B.]]

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\n* [[spoiler: Why would Gwen enlist Ham to help her find Miles aside from being a member of the original Spider-Gang? In the original ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' comic, Spider-Ham often appeared as an ally or a mentor to Gwen. This is because he reminded her of an imaginary friend she used to have. With Miles completely against her, Gwen could use some comfort and be among friends aside from Peter B.
* Some might consider Peter
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* [[spoiler: Why would Gwen enlist Ham to help her find Miles aside from being a member of the original Spider-Gang? In the original ''ComicBook/SpiderGwen'' comic, Spider-Ham often appeared as an ally or a mentor to Gwen. This is because he reminded her of an imaginary friend she used to have. With Miles completely against her, Gwen could use some comfort and be among friends aside from Peter B.]]
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** Another hint that Canon Events can play out differently comes in how we see the scene from Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan where Captain Stacy dies, accompanied by Miguel's claim that a police captain close to Spider-Man is fated to die while saving a child--except in that movie, Stacy dies fighting the Lizard, not while (directly) saving someone. It's an early hint that even within the evidence Miguel provides, there's a good amount of variation in how Canon Events might play out.

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** Another hint that Canon Events can play out differently comes in how during Miguel's explanation of how Canon Events occur, we see the scene from Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan ''Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan'' where Captain Stacy dies, accompanied by Miguel's his claim that one such event is that a police captain close to Spider-Man is fated to die while saving a child--except in that movie, Stacy dies fighting the Lizard, not while (directly) saving someone. It's an early hint that even within the evidence Miguel provides, there's a good amount of variation in how Canon Events might play out.
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** Another hint that Canon Events can play out differently comes in how we see the scene from Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan where Captain Stacy dies, accompanied by Miguel's claim that a police captain close to Spider-Man is fated to die while saving a child--except in that movie, Stacy dies fighting the Lizard, not while (directly) saving someone. It's an early hint that even within the evidence Miguel provides, there's a good amount of variation in how Canon Events might play out.
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* Aaron becomes aware that our Miles is a dimensional imposter the moment he notices he doesn't have dreads tied - possibly because having his hair out would add complications to donning his prowler mask, interfering with their crime plans.
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* Knowing the history of the American black community in the 20th century, it is just fitting, if not even ironic or a bit cruel, that the universe where crimes are rampant is designated with the number 42.
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* Miles has been a walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideas on Canon Events ever since the first movie. According to Miguel, Miles' Spider-Man should never existed because the spider had been transported from another dimension, but no glitches ever resulted from this occurrence, whether from Spider-Man's death at Kingpin's hand or from Miles taking up the mantle. By Miguel's logic, Earth-1610 (and even Earth-42, lacking its Spider-Man) should have imploded on itself long ago, but it carried along just fine. This lends credit to Miles' conviction that destiny ''can'' be safely altered.

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* Miles has been a walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideas on Canon Events ever since the first movie. According to Miguel, Miles' Spider-Man should never have existed because the spider had been transported from another dimension, but no glitches ever resulted from this occurrence, whether from Spider-Man's death at Kingpin's hand or from Miles taking up the mantle. By Miguel's logic, Earth-1610 (and even Earth-42, lacking its Spider-Man) should have imploded on itself long ago, but it carried along just fine. This lends credit to Miles' conviction that destiny ''can'' be safely altered.



* It's plainly obvious that Miguel is wrong about Canon Events, not just from the multiple worlds we see where broken canon events haven't destroyed reality but from the simple fact that the Multiverse simply doesn't work that way. This film establishes that the Spider-Verse films take place within the MCU's multiverse which from the events of ''Series/Loki'' has clearly established rules (glitching discrepancy aside) indicating that it's an infinitely branching multiverse where everything that could possibly happen will happen in some alternate universe. The only reason universes got destroyed when someone breaks from "Canon Events" isn't because doing so breaks a fundamental rule of reality, it's because the TVA [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble is/was/will be]] intentionally destroying individual timelines that stray too far from the "Sacred Timeline" that is the main MCU and a small collection of other distinct realities.

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* It's plainly obvious that Miguel is wrong about Canon Events, not just from the multiple worlds we see where broken canon events haven't destroyed reality but from the simple fact that the Multiverse simply doesn't work that way. This film establishes that the Spider-Verse films take place within the MCU's multiverse which from the events of ''Series/Loki'' ''Series/Loki2021'' has clearly established rules (glitching discrepancy aside) indicating that it's an infinitely branching multiverse where everything that could possibly happen will happen in some alternate universe. The only reason universes got destroyed when someone breaks from "Canon Events" isn't because doing so breaks a fundamental rule of reality, it's because the TVA [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble is/was/will be]] intentionally destroying individual timelines that stray too far from the "Sacred Timeline" that is the main MCU and a small collection of other distinct realities.
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* It's plainly obvious that Miguel is wrong about Canon Events, not just from the multiple worlds we see where broken canon events haven't destroyed reality but from the simple fact that the Multiverse simply doesn't work that way. This film establishes that the Spider-Verse films take place within the MCU's multiverse which from the events of ''Series/Loki'' has clearly established rules (glitching discrepancy aside) indicating that it's an infinitely branching multiverse where everything that could possibly happen will happen in some alternate universe. The only reason universes got destroyed when someone breaks from "Canon Events" isn't because doing so breaks a fundamental rule of reality, it's because the TVA [[TimeTravelTenseTrouble is/was/will be]] intentionally destroying individual timelines that stray too far from the "Sacred Timeline" that is the main MCU and a small collection of other distinct realities.
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* While having a moment, Gwen solemnly tells Miles that "a Gwen Stacy who falls for Spider-Man" is never going to end well. Given that [[ILetGwenStacyDie it's one of the most famous events in comic book history]], it's very much likely that this Gwen has already witnessed ''herself'' dying in numerous other universes, which also most likely including the [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Gwen Stacy of Earth-12073]] as well.

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* While having a moment, Gwen solemnly tells Miles that "a Gwen Stacy who falls for Spider-Man" is never going to end well. Given that [[ILetGwenStacyDie it's one of the most famous events in comic book history]], it's very much likely that this Gwen has already witnessed ''herself'' dying in numerous other universes, which also most likely including the [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Gwen Stacy of Earth-12073]] as well.
well. And the same also applies to Peter B. Parker and any of his deceased variants in other universes, including Miles' own.
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* While having a moment, Gwen solemnly tells Miles that "a Gwen Stacy who falls for Spider-Man" is never going to end well. Given that [[ILetGwenStacyDie it's one of the most famous events in comic book history]], it's very much likely that this Gwen has already witnessed ''herself'' dying in numerous other universes, which also most likely including the [[Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan2 Gwen Stacy of Earth-12073]] as well.
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* The reason as to why canon events being disrupted are such a threat in the first place might be [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt telegraphed fairly obviously within context of the story]]; from a metacontextual sense however, disrupting significant dramatic moments in a story tend to ''kill'' their progression in their tracks and lead to a story either losing interest [[AbortedArc or abruptly stopping that arc altogether]]... which is exactly what happened to Miguel when he tried to live in the life of an alternate version of himself who died but still had his family, which killed any dramatic tension for his character and [[StaticCharacter no possible direction]] for either his story or the story of that universe to develop, leading to it's abrupt and horrific conclusion. This is also what compounds George Stacy's retirement as still a canon development that can happen without disturbing the universe as ''[[ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood how]]'' he retired ended up still having dramatic weight to Gwen Stacy and her own future development in comparison to Miguel selfishly locking himself in a story that couldn't continue any further past his own attempt at happiness.

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* The reason as to why canon events being disrupted are such a threat in the first place might be [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt telegraphed fairly obviously within context of the story]]; from a metacontextual sense however, disrupting significant dramatic moments in a story tend to ''kill'' their progression in their tracks and lead to a story either losing interest [[AbortedArc or abruptly stopping that arc altogether]]... which is exactly what happened to Miguel when he tried to live in the life of an alternate version of himself who died but still had his family, which killed any dramatic tension for his character and [[StaticCharacter no possible direction]] for either his story or the story of that universe to develop, leading to it's abrupt and horrific conclusion. This is also what compounds George Stacy's retirement as still a canon development that can happen without disturbing the universe as ''[[ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood ''[[ToBeLawfulOrGood how]]'' he retired ended up still having dramatic weight to Gwen Stacy and her own future development in comparison to Miguel selfishly locking himself in a story that couldn't continue any further past his own attempt at happiness.
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* The reason as to why canon events being disrupted are such a threat in the first place might be [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt telegraphed fairly obviously within context of the story]]; from a metacontextual sense however, disrupting significant dramatic moments in a story tend to ''kill'' their progression in their tracks and lead to a story either losing interest [[AbortedArc or abruptly stopping that arc altogether]]... which is exactly what happened to Miguel when he tried to live in the life of an alternate version of himself who died but still had his family, which killed any dramatic tension for his character and [[StaticCharacter no possible direction]] for either his story or the story of that universe to develop, leading to it's abrupt and horrific conclusion. This is also what compounds George Stacy's retirement as still a canon development that can happen without disturbing the universe as ''[[ToBeLawfulOrToBeGood how]]'' he retired ended up still having dramatic weight to Gwen Stacy and her own future development in comparison to Miguel selfishly locking himself in a story that couldn't continue any further past his own attempt at happiness.
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* If Miguel is aware of MCU Doctor Strange, than he's probably also aware of what [[Recap/WhatIfS1E4WhatIfDoctorStrangeLostHisHeartInsteadOfHisHands another version of the same character]] did to his own universe. Considering that's exactly the sort of thing he wants to prevent, it's no wonder Strange is such a BerserkButton for him.
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* If you know the comics lore, you know that George Stacy is the police captain in Gwen's life who dies. Since he quit the police force, that can no longer happen to Earth-65 Gwen, since he was the only police officer to whom she had a close connection. And if you were following the plot, you probably just realized [[ApocalypseHow that's not great for Gwen's universe.]]
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* If you know the comics lore, you know that George Stacy is the police captain in Gwen's life who dies. Since he quit the police force, that can no longer happen to Earth-65 Gwen, since he was the only police officer to whom she had a close connection. And if you were following the plot, you probably just realized [[ApocalypseHow that's not great for Gwen's universe.]]
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* One of the alternate Spiderpeople is a ''Tyrannosaurus''. How many people ran away in terror and got themselves hurt, because the alternative was being saved by a spider-dinosaur hybrid?

* In Earth 42, Miles' father died instead of his uncle Aaron, which is implied to have contributed to his villainous identity as the Prowler. If this had happened to "our" Miles, what kind of darker path could he have gone down?

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* One of the alternate Spiderpeople Spider-people is a ''Tyrannosaurus''. How many people ran away in terror and got themselves hurt, because the alternative was being saved by a spider-dinosaur hybrid?

* In Earth 42, [[AlternateHistory Miles' father died instead of his uncle Aaron, Aaron]], which is implied to have contributed to his villainous identity as the Prowler. [[ForWantOfANail If this had happened to "our" Miles, what kind of darker path could he have gone down? down?]]
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* One of the alternate Spiderpeople is a ''Tyrannosaurus''. How many people ran away in terror and got themselves hurt, because the alternative was being saved by a spider-dinosaur hybrid?

* In Earth 42, Miles' father died instead of his uncle Aaron, which is implied to have contributed to his villainous identity as the Prowler. If this had happened to "our" Miles, what kind of darker path could he have gone down?
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* Even in this movie, another walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideology is Spider-Gwen herself; in the opening battle with the Vulture, had Miguel and Jessica didn't arrive to help Gwen save the civilians from a falling helicopter in the Guggenheim Museum, Gwen's father ''Captain'' George Stacy would have been killed there trying to save a kid, as has happened with all the other "Captains" in other universes. Miguel and Jessica's interventions by helping Gwen results in George Stacy not only surviving, but also finding out his daughter's secret identity - something that normally doesn't happen with other characters who have found out a Spider-person's secret identity [[DeathBySecretIdentity unless that character is about to die.]] By the time Gwen is sent home later on, her universe is not only still intact, but George has resigned from his captain position, effectively ensuring that his death is not a canon event anymore. By helping Spider-Gwen, Miguel and Jessica have ironically disproved their own hypothesis on canon events without them even knowing it.

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* Even in this movie, another walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideology is Spider-Gwen herself; in the opening battle with the Vulture, had Miguel and Jessica didn't arrive to help Gwen save the civilians from a falling helicopter in the Guggenheim Museum, Gwen's father ''Captain'' George Stacy would have been killed there trying to save a kid, as has happened with all the other "Captains" in other universes. Miguel and Jessica's interventions by helping Gwen results in George Stacy not only surviving, but also finding out his daughter's secret identity - something that normally doesn't happen with other characters who have found out a Spider-person's secret identity [[DeathBySecretIdentity unless that character is about to die.]] By the time Gwen is sent home later on, her universe is not only still intact, but George has resigned from his captain position, position due to finding out that his daughter is the Spider-Woman he was after all along, effectively ensuring that his death is not a canon event anymore. By helping Spider-Gwen, Miguel and Jessica have ironically disproved their own hypothesis on canon events without them even knowing it.
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* Even in this movie, another walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideology is Spider-Gwen herself; in the opening battle with the Vulture, had Miguel and Jessica didn't arrive to help Gwen save the civilians from a falling helicopter in the Guggenheim Museum, Gwen's father ''Captain'' George Stacy would have been killed there trying to save a kid, as has happened with all the other "Captains" in other universes. Miguel and Jessica's interventions by helping Gwen results in George Stacy not only surviving, but also finding out his daughter's secret identity - something that normally doesn't happen with other characters who have found out a Spider-person's secret identity [[DeathBySecretIdentity unless that character is about to die.]] By the time Gwen is sent home later on, her universe is not only still intact, but George has resigned from his captain position, effectively ensuring that his death is not a canon event anymore. By helping Spider-Gwen, Miguel and Jessica have ironically disproved their own hypothesis on canon events without them even knowing it.
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* It appears like there is not only no Spider-Man on Earth 42, but no superheroes ''at all''. Villains like the Prowler are running rampant and [[CrapsackWorld there's little anyone can do to stop them.]]
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* Miles has been a walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideas on Canon Events ever since the first movie. According to Miguel, Miles' Spider-Man should never existed because the spider had been transported from another dimension, but no glitches ever resulted from this occurrence, whether from Spider-Man's death at Kingpin's hand or from Miles taking up the mantle. By Miguel's logic, Earth-1610 should have imploded on itself long ago, but it carried along just fine. This lends credit to Miles' conviction that destiny ''can'' be safely altered.

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* Miles has been a walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideas on Canon Events ever since the first movie. According to Miguel, Miles' Spider-Man should never existed because the spider had been transported from another dimension, but no glitches ever resulted from this occurrence, whether from Spider-Man's death at Kingpin's hand or from Miles taking up the mantle. By Miguel's logic, Earth-1610 (and even Earth-42, lacking its Spider-Man) should have imploded on itself long ago, but it carried along just fine. This lends credit to Miles' conviction that destiny ''can'' be safely altered.
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* Miles has been a walking and talking proof against Miguel's ideas on Canon Events ever since the first movie. According to Miguel, Miles' Spider-Man should never existed because the spider had been transported from another dimension, but no glitches ever resulted from this occurrence, whether from Spider-Man's death at Kingpin's hand or from Miles taking up the mantle. By Miguel's logic, Earth-1610 should have imploded on itself long ago, but it carried along just fine. This lends credit to Miles' conviction that destiny ''can'' be safely altered.

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* Peter B. Parker taking care of his M.J.'s infant, superpowered daughter makes sense upon closer inspection - SecretIdentity is a '''big''' part of a Spider-Hero. Given the possibility of M.J. having a job, the couple couldn't leave their daughter with a stranger no matter how much a responsible babysitter they are - Mayday's burgeoning powers and lack of awareness would make it easy for a stranger to reveal it (whether on accident or not).
** Also, Peter is a superhuman who knows all of the abilities Mayday and can properly counter them when she sporadically uses them. M.J. is a human of normal strength and wouldn't be able to catch up to her child.



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* Miles being portrayed as Sun Wukong in the international Chinese poster is not simply for stylistic choice. The Spider-Force represents the armies of heaven, and Miles, like Sun Wukong, is the fugitive they aim to subdue. Though since Miles isn't so ridiculously overpowered and at-least-quintuply immortal like Wukong, he's more about running away from his pursuers than handily mopping the floor with them.
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* Miguel directly references ''Film/SpiderManNoWayHome'', confirming without a doubt that the MCU is part of this multiverse, which was only indirectly inferred from Film/SonysSpiderManUniverse being an alternate universe to both the MCU and Miles's universe. Cheers aside, this means all the universes in this movie and retroactively in the last one are both [[Film/DoctorStrangeInTheMultiverseOfMadness at risk of Incursions due to the multiversal travel]] ''and'' in the [[Film/AntManAndTheWaspQuantumania Council of Kangs' sights]], ''especially'' since they now see anyone besides them traveling the multiverse as a threat to their plans. The only thing making this uncertain is the fact that while the MCU is canon to the ''Spider-Verse'' films, Marvel Studios hasn't spoken on whether they feel the same way.
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