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* As one youtube comment puts it about "Coven of the Damned".
--> "Youtuber Comment'': How beautifully ironic: the episode is named "Coven of the Damned" and it ends with a witch finding redemption and ultimately salvation...
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** As for Fang, there's evidence that tyrannosaurs were capable of recovering from some downright ghastly injuries, so it wouldn't surprise me if she's just better at fighting off infection by nature.

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** As for Fang, there's evidence that tyrannosaurs were fully capable of recovering from some downright ghastly injuries, so it wouldn't surprise me if she's just better at fighting off infection by nature.
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** As for Fang, there's evidence that tyrannosaurs were capable of recovering from some downright ghastly injuries, so it wouldn't surprise me if she's just better at fighting off infection by nature.
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** Furthermore, ''The Primal Theory'' serves as a justification for the continued title of the series, even though the second season sees a transition to locations based off time periods which aren't really primal, so to speak, at least in comparison to cavemen and dinosaurs. The title Primal now refers to what many of the characters are pushed towards, their primal instincts and thus the will to kill, by outside factors or requirements; for the Vikings, it's revenge. For the likes of Spear, Fang and Mira, it's to survive. For the Egyptian Queen, it's to bolster her waterborne kingdom. All in all, the series is able to demonstrate why it subverts ArtefactTitle.

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** Furthermore, ''The Primal Theory'' serves as a justification for the continued title of the series, even though the second season sees a transition to locations based off time periods which aren't really primal, so to speak, at least in comparison to cavemen and dinosaurs. The title Primal now refers to what many of the characters are pushed towards, their primal instincts and thus the will to kill, by outside factors or requirements; for the Vikings, it's revenge. For the likes of Spear, Fang and Mira, it's to survive. For the Egyptian Queen, it's to bolster her waterborne kingdom. All in all, the series is able to demonstrate why it subverts ArtefactTitle.ArtifactTitle.
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** Spear's dream about the Plague shows his hands melting to the bone when he gets "infected", but his finger bones appear fused together and without any joints. This actually makes a lot of sense, as while Spear knows what bone looks like, he realistically has no idea what ''his'' bones look like.

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** * Spear's dream nightmare about the Plague shows his hands melting to the bone when he gets "infected", infected, but his finger bones appear fused together and without any joints. This actually makes a lot of sense, as while Spear knows what bone looks like, he realistically has no idea what ''his'' bones look like.

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** Furthermore, ''The Primal Theory'' serves as a justification for the continued title of the series, even though the second season sees a transition to locations based off time periods which aren't really primal, so to speak, at least in comparison to cavemen and dinosaurs. The title Primal now refers to what many of the characters are pushed towards, their primal instincts and thus the will to kill, by outside factors or requirements; for the Vikings, its revenge. For the likes of Spear, Fang and Mira, it's to survive. For the Egyptian Queen, it's to bolster her waterborne kingdom. All in all, the series is able to demonstrate why it subverts ArtefactTitle.

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** Furthermore, ''The Primal Theory'' serves as a justification for the continued title of the series, even though the second season sees a transition to locations based off time periods which aren't really primal, so to speak, at least in comparison to cavemen and dinosaurs. The title Primal now refers to what many of the characters are pushed towards, their primal instincts and thus the will to kill, by outside factors or requirements; for the Vikings, its it's revenge. For the likes of Spear, Fang and Mira, it's to survive. For the Egyptian Queen, it's to bolster her waterborne kingdom. All in all, the series is able to demonstrate why it subverts ArtefactTitle.



* Many pointed out that Eldar being in hell was just an illusion to persuade the Chieftain into making a deal with him, and with it's most likely the case. Remember, the Valkyries were taking the Chieftain to Valhalla before the Scorpion intervened. One way into being accepted into Valhalla is to die a warriors death, and Eldar died in combat against Spear and Mira. Valhalla really doesn't have moral reasons, just be a Warrior and a death befitting of one. Eldar surely earned his way into Valhalla, but the Chieftain did not, he committed suicide when he lost Eldar, letting the river take him after witnessing his only family member's lifeless body. Whether this follows any biblical reasoning for the Chieftain being in Hell, it was enough for the Scorpion to drag him away from Valhalla.

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* Many pointed out that Eldar being in hell was just an illusion to persuade the Chieftain into making a deal with him, and with it's most likely the case. Remember, the Valkyries were taking the Chieftain to Valhalla before the Scorpion intervened. One way into being accepted into Valhalla is to die a warriors death, and Eldar died in combat against Spear and Mira. Valhalla really doesn't have moral reasons, just be a Warrior and a death befitting of one. Eldar surely earned his way into Valhalla, but the Chieftain did not, he committed suicide when he lost Eldar, letting the river take him after witnessing his only family member's lifeless body. Whether this follows any biblical reasoning for the Chieftain being in Hell, it was enough for the Scorpion to drag him away from Valhalla.



* When Spear and Fang flee up the mountain, the Chieftain pursues them in the form of a snake. What's Fang afraid of? That's right, snakes (of course, not that the Cheiftain would know this). Regular snakes are bad enough. Now imagine a perpetually flaming snake invulnerable to damage. Fang must have been utterly horrified.

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* When Spear and Fang flee up the mountain, the Chieftain pursues them in the form of a snake. What's Fang afraid of? That's right, snakes (of course, not that the Cheiftain Chieftain would know this). Regular snakes are bad enough. Now imagine a perpetually flaming snake invulnerable to damage. Fang must have been utterly horrified.


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** There are fruits growing on trees in real life that can be pretty huge. Jackfruits, for example, grow up to around three feet long and over a hundred pounds.


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** The how is easy: humans really have been shaving since the Stone Age. Makeshift razors have been found from around 60,000 years ago, and some have actually theorized that Neanderthals were the first to embrace shaving. As for why, in real life it's believed early humans shaved for cleanliness, to reduce the chances of parasites and mites. Spear certainly shows enough ingenuity to have figured these things out.
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** Reptiles never stop growing as they age. Apply this to a fictional tyrannosaur and take it to the logical conclusion, and you have the giant alpha from the first episode. He was just SUPER old.
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*** This may also be the reason why they are so effective as fighting entire armies of more advanced civilizations, like the Persians, as even their warriors have likely spent the majority of their lives in safe cities with fertile fields, thus no need to push themselves as much as Spear and Fang have.
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* The appearance of Fang and Red's children (especially as adults) confirms that they are two different species or subspecies of ''Tyrannosaurus''. The male of the two has short nasal horns, and both have a mix of red and green colouration. Except, Red didn't have those nasal horns, despite being an adult male. As in, that trait came from ''Fang''. Also, notice how Fang is striped while Red isn't. With this in mind, it all but confirms that Fang is a female of the ''Horned Tyrannosaurs'' from the first episode. This also brings FridgeHorror to why they were attacking Fang's children, as this is often how male predators like lions force females into heat, by killing their babies.

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* The appearance of Fang and Red's children (especially as adults) confirms that they are two different species or subspecies of ''Tyrannosaurus''. The male of the two has short nasal horns, and both have a mix of red and green colouration. Except, Red didn't have those nasal horns, despite being an adult male. As in, that trait came from ''Fang''. Also, notice how Fang is striped while Red isn't. With this in mind, it all but confirms that Fang is a female of the ''Horned Tyrannosaurs'' from the first episode. This also brings FridgeHorror to why they were attacking Fang's children, as this is often how male predators like lions force females into heat, by killing their babies.
babies. Although this does raise the question as to why one of them was so much bigger than the others?
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** There's also Kamau and his tribe. They all have strength and toughness comparable to Fang yet they are very peaceful and it seem most won't even defend themselves when attacked. Being that powerful but living in a place where almost nothing can harm them means that they don't really need to get violent so it becomes a fairly foreign concept to them. If they lived in Spear and Fang's original home, then this likely would not be the case

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** There's also Kamau and his tribe. They all have strength and toughness comparable to Fang yet they are very peaceful and it seem most won't even defend themselves when attacked. Being that powerful but living in a place where almost nothing can harm them means that they don't really need to get violent so it becomes a fairly foreign concept to them. If they lived in Spear and Fang's original home, then this likely would not be the case
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* The appearance of Fang and Red's children (especially as adults) confirms that they are two different species or subspecies of ''Tyrannosaurus''. The male of the two has short nasal horns, and both have a mix of red and green colouration. Except, Red didn't have those nasal horns, despite being an adult male. As in, that trait came from ''Fang''. Also, notice how Fang is striped while Red isn't. With this in mind, it all but confirms that Fang is a female of the ''Horned Tyrannosaurs'' from the first episode. This also brings FridgeHorror to why they were attacking Fang's children, as this is often how male predators like lions force females into heat, by killing their babies.

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* With the knowledge that Spear and Fang come from a place that's an absolute DeathWorld even by the standards of the setting, it puts some of the physical and behavioral traits of the various beings in much greater context.
** Most obvious are the differences between Fang and Red. Both are closely related subspecies that are comparable in strength, intelligence and durability yet they are distinct in some very major ways. First up in their behaviors: Fang overall comes off as much more aggressive than Red does as when they first meet her first response is to roar at him while he stays quite and just slightly leaves and is generally more meek than she is. Both are tough and strong but Fang comes from a place where there are a number of things capable of killing her such as the mammoths and giant horned tyrannosaurs while Red lives in a place where he is likely the most dangerous thing around so his subspecies doesn't need to be more confrontational to survive. This also explains their colors, Fang's striped green is better for camouflaging in plants to better sneak up on more skittish prey and hiding from meaner carnivores (particularly when young) while Red doesn't need to hide, especially since the most abundant prey in his ecosystem seem to be large mammals, which typically have poor color vision.
*** This also likely ties into why he has no problem eating humans while Fang doesn't seem to see them as prey. Red doesn't need to be especially cautious about what he hunts since he's shown to be tough enough to shrug off most stone age human weapons so his species can afford to be more "experimental". In Fang's homeland however, the closest things to humans are beings like the Netherlands and ape men, both of which are much stronger and very aggressive when threatened in addition to their intellect and weapons, making hunting them a very risky venture and the fact that they both seem less common than humans on the other continent which makes running into them less likely.
** There's also Kamau and his tribe. They all have strength and toughness comparable to Fang yet they are very peaceful and it seem most won't even defend themselves when attacked. Being that powerful but living in a place where almost nothing can harm them means that they don't really need to get violent so it becomes a fairly foreign concept to them. If they lived in Spear and Fang's original home, then this likely would not be the case
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** Furthermore, ''The Primal Theory'' serves as a justification for the continued title of the series, even though the second season sees a transition to locations based off time periods which aren't really primal, so to speak, at least in comparison to cavemen and dinosaurs. The title Primal now refers to what many of the characters are pushed towards, their primal instincts and thus the will to kill, by outside factors or requirements; for the Vikings, its revenge. For the likes of Spear, Fang and Mira, it's to survive. For the Egyptian Queen, it's to bolster her waterborne kingdom. All in all, the series is able to demonstrate why it subverts ArtefactTitle.
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* Many pointed out that Eldar being in hell was just an illusion to persuade the Chieftain into making a deal with him, and with it's most likely the case. Remember, the Valkyries were taking the Chieftain to Valhalla before Scorpion intervened. One way into being accepted into Valhalla is to die a warriors death, and Eldar died in combat against Spear and Mira. Valhalla really doesn't have moral reasons, just be a Warrior and a death befitting of one. Eldar surely earned his way into Valhalla, but the Chieftain did not, he committed suicide when he lost Eldar, letting the river take him after witnessing his only family member's lifeless body. Whether this follows any biblical reasoning for the Chieftain being in Hell, it was enough to Scorpion to drag him away from Valhalla.

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* Many pointed out that Eldar being in hell was just an illusion to persuade the Chieftain into making a deal with him, and with it's most likely the case. Remember, the Valkyries were taking the Chieftain to Valhalla before the Scorpion intervened. One way into being accepted into Valhalla is to die a warriors death, and Eldar died in combat against Spear and Mira. Valhalla really doesn't have moral reasons, just be a Warrior and a death befitting of one. Eldar surely earned his way into Valhalla, but the Chieftain did not, he committed suicide when he lost Eldar, letting the river take him after witnessing his only family member's lifeless body. Whether this follows any biblical reasoning for the Chieftain being in Hell, it was enough to for the Scorpion to drag him away from Valhalla.
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* Many pointed out that Eldar being in hell was just an illusion to persuade the Chieftain into making a deal with him, and with it's most likely the case. Remember, the Valkyries were taking the Chieftain to Valhalla before Scorpion intervened. One way into being accepted into Valhalla is to die a warriors death, and Eldar died in combat against Spear and Mira. Valhalla really doesn't have moral reasons, just be a Warrior and a death befitting of one. Eldar surely earned his way into Valhalla, but the Chieftain did not, he committed suicide when he lost Eldar, letting the river take him after witnessing his only family member's lifeless body. Whether this follows any biblical reasoning for the Chieftain being in Hell, it was enough to Scorpion to drag him away from Valhalla.
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* When Spear and Fang flee up the mountain, the Chieftain pursues them in the form of a snake. What's Fang afraid of? That's right, snakes (of course, not that the Cheiftain would know this). Regular snakes are bad enough. Now imagine a perpetually flaming snake invulnerable to damage, and start to realize how afraid Fang must be.

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* When Spear and Fang flee up the mountain, the Chieftain pursues them in the form of a snake. What's Fang afraid of? That's right, snakes (of course, not that the Cheiftain would know this). Regular snakes are bad enough. Now imagine a perpetually flaming snake invulnerable to damage, and start to realize how afraid damage. Fang must be.
have been utterly horrified.
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* When Spear and Fang flee up the mountain, the Chieftain pursues them in the form of a snake. What's Fang afraid of? That's right, snakes (of course, not that the Cheiftain would know this). Regular snakes are bad enough. Now imagine a perpetually flaming snake invulnerable to damage, and start to realize how afraid Fang must be.
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Explicit confirmation. Spear is dead. https://ew.com/tv/primal-creator-finale-uncertain-future/


* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born, though Spear's fate is left ambiguous]].

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* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born, though Spear's fate is left ambiguous]].born]].



* The Chieftain was dragged to hell in the end, despite only managing to kill Spear (not immediately, IF Spear is really dead). Scorpion (the being who made the deal with the Chieftain), only promised him he could get his revenge on Spear and Fang, which he technically did. He managed to mortally wound Spear and eventually cause Fang the anguish of losing a loved one (in her case, for the third time), and to an extent Mira as well, which Scorpion sees as his end of the bargain fulfilled, leaving the Chieftain to pay up immediately.
** Another way to interpret it is the Scorpion being mad that the Chieftain failed in his question to kill both Spear and Fang and was not going to wait.

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* The Chieftain was dragged to hell in the end, despite only managing to kill Spear (not immediately, IF Spear is really dead). Spear. The Scorpion (the being who made the deal with the Chieftain), only promised him he could get his revenge on Spear and Fang, which he technically did. He managed to mortally wound Spear and eventually cause Fang the anguish of losing a loved one (in her case, for the third time), and to an extent Mira as well, which Scorpion sees as his end of the bargain fulfilled, leaving the Chieftain to pay up immediately.
** Another way to interpret it is the Scorpion being mad that the Chieftain failed in his question to kill both Spear and Fang of them and was not going to wait.
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* The theme of ''The Primal Theory'' is that culture hasn't changed what we biologically are and any human put in the right circumstances will resort to basic violence to survive. This is rather brilliantly highlighted in how effective the tactics are against the Madman. Guns, the tool of the modern man, seem intimidating but he's able to overcome them surprisingly easily. Boxing throws him off but is too bound by civilisation to work for long. A sword and shield do little. A bow and arrow are the first thing to slow him down. Finally it is the broken spear that overcomes him. Each approach represents a stage of cultural development, with more modern weapons being ineffective while the more primitive the approach, the more useful it is against him.

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* The theme of ''The Primal Theory'' is that culture hasn't changed what we biologically are and any human put in the right circumstances will resort to basic violence to survive. This is rather brilliantly highlighted in how effective the tactics are against the Madman. Guns, the tool of the modern man, seem intimidating but he's able to overcome them surprisingly easily. Boxing throws him off but is too bound by civilisation civilization to work for long. A sword and shield do little. A bow and arrow are the first thing to slow him down. Finally it is the broken spear that overcomes him. Each approach represents a stage of cultural development, with more modern weapons being ineffective while the more primitive the approach, the more useful it is against him.



* Fang's day-old babies attacking and devouring an injured Egyptian soldier is in line with current understanding of dinosaur hatchlings being precocial, able to hunt and feed themselves at birth and only relying on their parents to lead them to food amd defend them from predators.

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* Fang's day-old babies attacking and devouring an injured Egyptian soldier is in line with current understanding of dinosaur hatchlings being precocial, able to hunt and feed themselves at birth and only relying on their parents to lead them to food amd and defend them from predators.



* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born, though Spear's fate is left ambiguious]].

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* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born, though Spear's fate is left ambiguious]].ambiguous]].



** Another way to interpret it is Scorpion being mad that the Chieftain failed in his question to kill both Spear and Fang and was not going to wait.
* In a bit of a sad twist, Spear made the conscious decision to push the Chieftain off the cliff because he was protecting the only family he had left. The night before, Spear made a cave painting showing that he was lonely, despite having a family in Fang, her children and Mira, however, seeing as the have those in their lives now aside from Spear, Spear had no one. When the Chieftain said Fang on fire, Spear made the decision to take the Chieftain out the way he did, because he had no other family to leave behind, Fang and Mira did, so he was the only one with nothing else to lose other than them.


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** Another way to interpret it is the Scorpion being mad that the Chieftain failed in his question to kill both Spear and Fang and was not going to wait.
* In a bit of a sad twist, Spear made the conscious decision to push the Chieftain off the cliff because he was protecting the only family he had left. The night before, Spear made a cave painting showing that he was lonely, despite having a family in Fang, her children and Mira, however, seeing as the they have those in their lives now aside from Spear, Spear had no one. When the Chieftain said set Fang on fire, Spear made the decision to take the Chieftain out the way he did, because he had no other family to leave behind, Fang and Mira did, so he was the only one with nothing else to lose other than them.

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*** Chalk it up to classic cartoon exageration.

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*** Chalk it up to classic cartoon exageration.exaggeration.



* Several criticisms have been made towards the season 2 episode “The Colossaeus Part I” because the conflict is driven by the main characters deciding to leave a safe area which results in them being captured and the loss of one of Fang’s eggs. However their decision does make sense when you consider that throughout the show, Spear and Fang are used to constantly travelling and having to move on because nowhere is truly safe in the world of primal, even when it appears to be. This is especially shown in “Rage of the Ape-Men” where the pair find what seemed to be a paradise and just letting their guard down for moment resulted in Fang almost losing her life.

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* Several criticisms have been made towards the season 2 episode “The Colossaeus Part I” because the conflict is driven by the main characters deciding to leave a safe area which results in them being captured and the loss of one of Fang’s eggs. However their decision does make sense when you consider that throughout the show, Spear and Fang are used to constantly travelling traveling and having to move on because nowhere is truly safe in the world of primal, even when it appears to be. This is especially shown in “Rage of the Ape-Men” where the pair find what seemed to be a paradise and just letting their guard down for moment resulted in Fang almost losing her life.



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* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born]].

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* The ending of the finale seems to imply that Spear and Mira's daughter has bonded with Fang's red-headed offspring, likely the female of the two due to its lack of a nose horn. The two have a lot in common thematically, as both are hybrids (between a Homo sapien and a Neanderthal, and between a red and green tyrannosaur), and both of them [[DisappearedDad lost their father before they were even born]].born, though Spear's fate is left ambiguious]].



* The Chieftain was dragged to hell in the end, despite only managing to kill Spear (not immediately). Scorpion (the being who made the deal with the Chieftain), only promised him he could get his revenge on Spear and Fang, which he technically did. He managed to mortally wound Spear and eventually cause Fang the anguish of losing a loved one (in her case, for the third time), and to an extent Mira as well, which Scorpion sees as his end of the bargain fulfilled, leaving the Chieftain to pay up immediately.

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* The Chieftain was dragged to hell in the end, despite only managing to kill Spear (not immediately).immediately, IF Spear is really dead). Scorpion (the being who made the deal with the Chieftain), only promised him he could get his revenge on Spear and Fang, which he technically did. He managed to mortally wound Spear and eventually cause Fang the anguish of losing a loved one (in her case, for the third time), and to an extent Mira as well, which Scorpion sees as his end of the bargain fulfilled, leaving the Chieftain to pay up immediately.
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** And yes, ''Homo sapiens'' have interbred with [[https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/09/it-wasnt-just-neanderthals-ancient-humans-had-sex-other-hominids/338117/ Neanderthals and other human subspecies as well]], so Spear and Mira's daughter isn't that much of a stretch.

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