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** It is also possible she had learned guitar in the time period (privately considering no one had known about her skills with guitar until the end of the movie) between the first and second movie as a means of coping with the stress and guilt she faced when trying to change her ways and deal with becoming a social pariah.
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*** This is the most likely explanation, which itself opens up some more Fridge Horror. Sure, it's their magic that made them the massive threat they were, but it should be noted that Adagio is a [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative]], borderline MagnificentBitch who does not always need magic to get people to do what she wants. Remember how Sunset Shimmer practically ruled the school with an iron fist despite not having any powers (at first)? Assuming they really got away with just a depowering, [[WeWillMeetAgain this may not be the last time we hear from the Dazzlings]].

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*** This is the most likely explanation, which itself opens up some more Fridge Horror. Sure, it's their magic that made them the massive threat they were, but it should be noted that Adagio is a [[ManipulativeBastard Manipulative]], borderline MagnificentBitch ManipulativeBitch who does not always need magic to get people to do what she wants. Remember how Sunset Shimmer practically ruled the school with an iron fist despite not having any powers (at first)? Assuming they really got away with just a depowering, [[WeWillMeetAgain this may not be the last time we hear from the Dazzlings]].
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** Even more fridge brilliance, with the shift in music between the shorts and the film. [[AllDrummersAreAnimals Pinkie Pie is uncontrollably wild]], Fluttershy is hypnotizing, and [[NobodyLovesTheBassist Applejack]] [[LeadBassist can melt faces with a bass]]. You expect the Rainbooms to, well, [[TitleDrop Rainbow]] [[{{Pun}} Rock]]. Instead, we get a bored repetition and half-attentive playing, which is more typical of girl-group pop-oriented music from the film than the energetic and enjoyable rock the shorts promised. Something must have happened between the "let's rock" and [[FaceOfTheBand show-stealing]] phases, and that something is that the band started falling apart.

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** Even more fridge brilliance, with the shift in music between the shorts and the film. [[AllDrummersAreAnimals Pinkie Pie is uncontrollably wild]], Fluttershy is hypnotizing, and [[NobodyLovesTheBassist Applejack]] [[LeadBassist can melt faces with a bass]]. You expect the Rainbooms to, well, [[TitleDrop Rainbow]] [[{{Pun}} Rock]]. Instead, we get a bored repetition and half-attentive playing, which is more typical of girl-group pop-oriented music from the film than the energetic and enjoyable rock the shorts promised. Something must have happened between the "let's rock" and [[FaceOfTheBand [[SpotlightStealingSquad show-stealing]] phases, and that something is that the band started falling apart.
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*** But that's a similar argument to [[Literature/{{Twilight}} the Cullens]] being able to eat regular human food. They ''can'', but it doesn't necessarily mean they are able to ''survive'' on it. The same could be said for the Sirens.

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*** But that's a similar argument to [[Literature/{{Twilight}} [[Literature/TheTwilightSaga the Cullens]] being able to eat regular human food. They ''can'', but it doesn't necessarily mean they are able to ''survive'' on it. The same could be said for the Sirens.
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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow (presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.

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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow (presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing magical color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.
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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[GenreSavvy presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.

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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[GenreSavvy presumably (presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), orange), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.
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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.

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*** There's also this: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues ([[GenreSavvy presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.
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* The Dazzlings have hypnotized Celestia and Luna into accepting the [=BotB=] idea. It would seem that the experience with Star Swirl has taught them to go after authority figures first to make sure that they don't meddle with their schemes.
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* Princess Twilight tells her pony friends not to come with her through the portal because having two of everyone around would be weird. [[spoiler: This is foreshadowing TheStinger where we finally see the Equestria Girls' world's version of Twilight (and Spike, who does appear to be a normal dog).]]
* [[spoiler: The end of the film reveals that Sunset Shimmer knows how to play the guitar. How could she have such a skill? She dated Flash Sentry, and it's not impossible that a boyfriend might try to teach his girlfriend how to play an instrument that he can play himself.]]
** Alternatively, both having [[spoiler: mad guitar skills]] could have been something that helped bring them together.

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* Princess Twilight tells her pony friends not to come with her through the portal because having two of everyone around would be weird. [[spoiler: This is foreshadowing TheStinger where we finally see the Equestria Girls' world's version of Twilight (and Spike, who does appear to be a normal dog).]]
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* [[spoiler: The end of the film reveals that Sunset Shimmer knows how to play the guitar. How could she have such a skill? She dated Flash Sentry, and it's not impossible that a boyfriend might try to teach his girlfriend how to play an instrument that he can play himself.]]
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** Alternatively, both having [[spoiler: mad guitar skills]] skills could have been something that helped bring them together.



* [[spoiler: Rainbows are commonly believed to have seven colors. In the climax, Sunset Shimmer adds her own power to the friendship rainbow as the [[EleventhHourRanger seventh member]] of the Humane Six.]]
** [[spoiler: Case in point: Red - Sunset Shimmer (hair color), Orange - Applejack (skin color), Yellow - Fluttershy (skin color), Green - Pinkie Pie (odd one and color out), Blue - Rainbow Dash (skin color, though it is actually cyan, but still close enough), Indigo - Twilight Sparkle (hair color, which is closer to this than Rarity's hair), and Violet - Rarity (hair color, which is closer to this than Twilight's hair)]]
*** There's also this: [[spoiler: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green ( as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.]]
*** Alternatively, [[spoiler: If you include Spike and Vinyl in the rainbow, then you get the 7 colors of the rainbow plus pink and white. Sunset is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy is yellow, Spike is green (as is his artwork in the credits), Rainbow is blue, Vinyl is indigo (she doesn't say a word, unlike all the others, and so gets the color that most people who make a 6 color wheel would ignore), Twilight is violet/purple, Pinkie gets pink, and Rarity gets white.]]

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* [[spoiler: Rainbows are commonly believed to have seven colors. In the climax, Sunset Shimmer adds her own power to the friendship rainbow as the [[EleventhHourRanger seventh member]] member of the Humane Six.]]
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** [[spoiler: Case in point: Red - Sunset Shimmer (hair color), Orange - Applejack (skin color), Yellow - Fluttershy (skin color), Green - Pinkie Pie (odd one and color out), Blue - Rainbow Dash (skin color, though it is actually cyan, but still close enough), Indigo - Twilight Sparkle (hair color, which is closer to this than Rarity's hair), and Violet - Rarity (hair color, which is closer to this than Twilight's hair)]]
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*** There's also this: [[spoiler: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green ( as (as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.]]
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*** Alternatively, [[spoiler: If you include Spike and Vinyl in the rainbow, then you get the 7 colors of the rainbow plus pink and white. Sunset is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy is yellow, Spike is green (as is his artwork in the credits), Rainbow is blue, Vinyl is indigo (she doesn't say a word, unlike all the others, and so gets the color that most people who make a 6 color wheel would ignore), Twilight is violet/purple, Pinkie gets pink, and Rarity gets white.]]



** Rarity: Designs costumes for the group, but is told they don't matter (her generosity is being spit on).

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** Rarity: Designs costumes for the group, but is told they don't matter (her generosity is being spit spat on).



* Twilight surmises ThePowerOfFriendship doesn't activate when they first try it because they need to trigger it through music now. Maybe. Or maybe [[spoiler:the group's underlying tensions that erupt during the climax are already too disruptive to their unity]].

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* Twilight surmises ThePowerOfFriendship doesn't activate when they first try it because they need to trigger it through music now. Maybe. Or maybe [[spoiler:the the group's underlying tensions that erupt during the climax are already too disruptive to their unity]].unity



* [[spoiler:In the first movie, Pinkie asks Twilight if she has a twin sister. Her innate sense telling her it's not "her" Twilight? Maybe... or maybe it's the fact that human Twilight wears her hair differently, wears glasses, dresses completely different, and likely has a much different demeanor. No wonder she didn't think they were the same person.]]
* It make sense that Trixie would be one of the best performers (her band is semifinalist and should have been a finalist), since she is, after all, a performer even in her pony self. It is not only the catchy song, but also the showmanship what give her and edge, and since she does not have her unicorn magic in this world her showmanship must be better to compensate the lack of true magic in her shows. That could mean that ponies specialized in magic like her developed more their secondary skill in the mirror universe since they don't have true magic at their disposal, [[spoiler:that could explain why Human Twilight seems to be going full scientist]].
* Also regarding Trixie, her band seems to advance in the competition playing only one song ("Tricks Up My Sleeve"), even though everyone else plays something different each round. This makes Trixie a [[StealthPun One-Trick Pony.]]
** Alternately since the Battle of the Bands was originally just a concert with no winner, it would have presumably just been one performance. So Trixie's band would only have one song prepared. It was only changed to a contest last minute. The Rainbooms just have more songs because Rainbow Dash loves to write them.

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* [[spoiler:In In the first movie, Pinkie asks Twilight if she has a twin sister. Her innate sense telling her it's not "her" Twilight? Maybe... or maybe it's the fact that human Twilight wears her hair differently, wears glasses, dresses completely different, and likely has a much different demeanor. No wonder she didn't think they were the same person.]]
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* It make sense that Trixie would be one of the best performers (her band is semifinalist and should have been a finalist), since she is, after all, a performer even in her pony self. It is not only the catchy song, but also the showmanship what give her and edge, and since she does not have her unicorn magic in this world her showmanship must be better to compensate the lack of true magic in her shows. That could mean that ponies specialized in magic like her developed more their secondary skill in the mirror universe since they don't have true magic at their disposal, [[spoiler:that that could explain why Human Twilight seems to be going full scientist]].
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* Also regarding Trixie, her band seems to advance in the competition playing only one song ("Tricks Up My Sleeve"), even though everyone else plays something different each round. This makes Trixie a [[StealthPun One-Trick Pony.]]
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** Alternately Alternately, since the Battle of the Bands was originally just a concert with no winner, it would have presumably just been one performance. So Trixie's band would only have one song prepared. It was only changed to a contest last minute. The Rainbooms just have more songs because Rainbow Dash loves to write them.



* This one takes a bit of explanation. In the original "Music to My Ears" short, near the end, we see Vinyl Scratch/DJ-Pon-3 going into Mr. and Mrs. Cake's cafe. During the slow-mo sequence, we see her pass by the Humane Six, minus Sunset Shimmer, Twilight, and Spike. In the movie proper, when the full Humane Eight are present and catching up, if you look closely, you can see Vinyl Scratch walking up to the counter. You can also see her in the cafeteria just before the Battle of the Bands song. In both cases, she's wearing her headphones. This may not seem like much until the end, where she reveals that [[spoiler:she wasn't affected by The Dazzlings Music because she was listening to her own music and never took off her headphones. A very subtle hint during the film is that at least one scene which catches Vinyl in the background shows her bobbing her head in rhythm that is completely out of sync with the Dazzlings' song, showing that she's going by the beat of her own drummer, to speak.]]

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* This one takes a bit of explanation. In the original "Music to My Ears" short, near the end, we see Vinyl Scratch/DJ-Pon-3 going into Mr. and Mrs. Cake's cafe. During the slow-mo sequence, we see her pass by the Humane Six, minus Sunset Shimmer, Twilight, and Spike. In the movie proper, when the full Humane Eight are present and catching up, if you look closely, you can see Vinyl Scratch walking up to the counter. You can also see her in the cafeteria just before the Battle of the Bands song. In both cases, she's wearing her headphones. This may not seem like much until the end, where she reveals that [[spoiler:she she wasn't affected by The Dazzlings Music the Dazzlings' music because she was listening to her own music and never took off her headphones. A very subtle hint during the film is that at least one scene which catches Vinyl in the background shows her bobbing her head in rhythm that is completely out of sync with the Dazzlings' song, showing that she's going by the beat of her own drummer, to speak.]]



* [[https://derpiboo.ru/733991 As Sirens]], the Dazzlings caused a {{Ship|ping}}-wreck in-universe.

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* [[https://derpiboo.ru/733991 As Sirens]], Sirens, the Dazzlings caused a {{Ship|ping}}-wreck in-universe.



** Friendship games disproves this, the portal is permanently active now.
* During the final battle, [[spoiler:DJ Pon-3 keeps her earphones on all the while. But she didn't need to isolate herself anymore, wouldn't she want to hear the music of the Rainbooms since she's helping them? Oh, wait, she's right in the middle of four big loudspeakers, strong enough to blast away the Sirens! She can hear the music quite well, and in fact would need the protection for her ears]].
* It's a blink and you'll miss it moment but Spike is only big enough to hug one leg (as opposed to glomping everyone else). So which leg does he hug? Rarity's.

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** Friendship games ''Friendship Games'' disproves this, this; the portal is permanently active now.
* During the final battle, [[spoiler:DJ DJ Pon-3 keeps her earphones on all the while. But she didn't need to isolate herself anymore, wouldn't she want to hear the music of the Rainbooms since she's helping them? Oh, wait, she's right in the middle of four big loudspeakers, strong enough to blast away the Sirens! She can hear the music quite well, and in fact would need the protection for her ears]].
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* It's a blink and you'll miss it moment blink-and-you'll-miss-it moment, but Spike is only big enough to hug one leg (as opposed to glomping everyone else). So which leg does he hug? Rarity's.



* It was stated the Humane Six were unaffected by the Dazzlings' spell due to having the magic of the Elements of Harmony within them, but why wasn't Sunset Shimmer affected when it was clear that their music can affect ponies too? [[spoiler:She has a Seventh Element!]]

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* It was stated the Humane Six were unaffected by the Dazzlings' spell due to having the magic of the Elements of Harmony within them, but why wasn't Sunset Shimmer affected when it was clear that their music can affect ponies too? [[spoiler:She She has a Seventh Element!]]Element!



* Several people have commented on the fact that the Dazzlings' songs are better sounding than the Rainbooms' singing. And that makes perfect sense! The Dazzlings are sirens who have magical powers which fuel their singing. The Rainbooms are an all-girl garage band. The Dazzlings are meant to be alluring. The Rainbooms sing for the love of it and aren't professionals. [[spoiler: It can also imply that the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou audience isn't safe from the Dazzlings' enchantment...]]]]

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* Several people have commented on the fact that the Dazzlings' songs are better sounding than the Rainbooms' singing. And that makes perfect sense! The Dazzlings are sirens who have magical powers which fuel their singing. The Rainbooms are an all-girl garage band. The Dazzlings are meant to be alluring. The Rainbooms sing for the love of it and aren't professionals. [[spoiler: It can also imply that the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou audience isn't safe from the Dazzlings' enchantment...]]]]]]



* Why are the Sirens [[spoiler:HollywoodToneDeaf after their powers are gone]]? Because they've relied on magic to do the singing for them their whole lives. They've never had to learn how to carry a tune or properly hold a key the way normal singers do. With no professional training at all, their performance makes a lot more sense.
* Combining Rainbow Rocks with the series episode Slice of Life, we actually get the implication that Vinyl is ''hard of hearing''. (She lip reads Dr. Hooves; and she has trouble syncing with Octavia's music across the room, unaware that it isn't meshing until Octavia indicates as much, and is only able to do it after a much greater effort.) Which explains why she can do things like, say, sit in the middle of those huge speakers, or cross the street or drive with her headphones on: she doesn't rely on her hearing when it comes to being aware of her surroundings, and she's used to turning the music up loud to feel the bass as much as actually hear it.

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* Why are the Sirens [[spoiler:HollywoodToneDeaf HollywoodToneDeaf after their powers are gone]]? gone? Because they've relied on magic to do the singing for them their whole lives. They've never had to learn how to carry a tune or properly hold a key the way normal singers do. With no professional training at all, their performance makes a lot more sense.
* Combining Rainbow Rocks ''Rainbow Rocks'' with the series episode Slice "Slice of Life, Life", we actually get the implication that Vinyl is ''hard of hearing''. (She lip reads lip-reads Dr. Hooves; Hooves, and she has trouble syncing with Octavia's music across the room, unaware that it isn't meshing until Octavia indicates as much, and is only able to do it after a much greater effort.) Which explains why she can do things like, say, sit in the middle of those huge speakers, or cross the street or drive with her headphones on: she doesn't rely on her hearing when it comes to being aware of her surroundings, and she's used to turning the music up loud to feel the bass as much as actually hear it.



*** Also, how will the sirens get food? Most people wouldn't give them food, they will likely be afraid of the main 5, they can't be arrested as canterlot high has no proof they did anything wrong, and they are never shown to have homes.

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*** Also, how will the sirens get food? Most people wouldn't give them food, they will likely be afraid of the main 5, they can't be arrested as canterlot high Canterlot High has no proof they did anything wrong, and they are never shown to have homes.



* Simple thought exercise: What atrocities did the dazzlings do during the thousand years they were banished? Remember, EQG-Earth didn't have magic that could be used to stop them until Sunset Shimmer brought the Element of Magic.

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* Simple thought exercise: What atrocities did the dazzlings Dazzlings do during the thousand years they were banished? Remember, EQG-Earth didn't have magic that could be used to stop them until Sunset Shimmer brought the Element of Magic.



* Some Horror mixed with Brilliance; Sunset Shimmer wasn't a part of the Rainbooms. While no reason is stated in the film for her not being included in the band from the start, part of it might have been reluctance on Sunset's part. She's smart enough to theorize that the transformations they undergo could be the result of what happened with Twilight's crown in the first film, and she fears turning into a "raging she-demon" again. [[spoiler:Didn't turn out to be the case in the end, but it's a valid fear on her part.]]

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* Some Horror mixed with Brilliance; Sunset Shimmer wasn't a part of the Rainbooms. While no reason is stated in the film for her not being included in the band from the start, part of it might have been reluctance on Sunset's part. She's smart enough to theorize that the transformations they undergo could be the result of what happened with Twilight's crown in the first film, and she fears turning into a "raging she-demon" again. [[spoiler:Didn't Didn't turn out to be the case in the end, but it's a valid fear on her part.]]



* The Dazzlings' songs cause those listening to be ultra-competitive and give into hate. We watched, we saw it happen on screen, and ''and we're still loving it''! Just imagine what they could do if they were real!
* Despite being centuries old in the human world, The Dazzlings are still biologically teenagers, presumably because feeding on hate keeps them young. However, their amulets were broken at the end of the movie, turning them into regular girls. This implies that their natural lifetimes were significantly cut short.

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* The Dazzlings' songs cause those listening to be ultra-competitive and give into hate. We watched, we saw it happen on screen, and ''and we're still loving it''! it!'' Just imagine what they could do if they were real!
* Despite being centuries old in the human world, The the Dazzlings are still biologically teenagers, presumably because feeding on hate keeps them young. However, their amulets were broken at the end of the movie, turning them into regular girls. This implies that their natural lifetimes were significantly cut short.



*** Fiendship has been contradicted by the show and is therefore no longer considered canon.

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*** Fiendship ''Fiendship'' has been contradicted by the show and is therefore no longer considered canon.



*** Billions more where those ones came from. And as we saw during their brief cameos in Shadow Play the Sirens weren't concerned about the wellbeing of those they affected seeing as they drove them to physically attack each other.
* Ignoring the global application of the Dazzlings's hate plague, suppose it had caused something more disruptive to occur in the school itself, like a UsefulNotes/Columbine sytle school shooting?

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*** Billions more where those ones came from. And as we saw during their brief cameos in Shadow Play the Sirens weren't concerned about the wellbeing well-being of those they affected seeing as they drove them to physically attack each other.
* Ignoring the global application of the Dazzlings's hate plague, suppose it had caused something more disruptive to occur in the school itself, like a UsefulNotes/Columbine sytle UsefulNotes/{{Columbine}}-style school shooting?



*** The spell didn’t turn everyone "Evil", it just turned them overall angry and competitive with no inhibitions. Do you honestly think high school kids filled with irritability and no inhibitions doing sabotaging pranks takes a special kind of evil? Hell, even Adagio established that all they were doing to school kids was giving them an instant "worst day, lash out at friends" attitude, otherwise they wouldn't be able to absorb the Mane 6's energy by manipulating them into that state without directly using their magic. So what happens if someone thinks the best way to eliminate the competition is by killing them off?

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*** The spell didn’t turn everyone "Evil", "evil", it just turned them overall angry and competitive with no inhibitions. Do you honestly think high school kids filled with irritability and no inhibitions doing sabotaging pranks takes a special kind of evil? Hell, even Adagio established that all they were doing to school kids was giving them an instant "worst day, lash out at friends" attitude, otherwise they wouldn't be able to absorb the Mane 6's Humane Six's energy by manipulating them into that state without directly using their magic. So what happens if someone thinks the best way to eliminate the competition is by killing them off?



*** [[spoiler:Or even just [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames a well-meaning and curious young scientist whose research turns into something beyond her control?]]]]

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** As far as I know, the only time we see her driving with headphones is [[spoiler: when she's driving up the hill to help the Rainbooms in the final battle. She probably kept them on because she didn't want to risk falling under the Dazzling's spell at the last moment.]]
*** Well, the Music to My Ears short did show that she is the kind of person who would cross the road while listening and dancing to music.

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** As far as I know, the only time we see her driving with headphones is [[spoiler: when she's driving up the hill to help the Rainbooms in the final battle. She probably kept them on because she didn't want to risk falling under the Dazzling's spell at the last moment.]]
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*** Well, the Music "Music to My Ears Ears" short did show that she is the kind of person who would cross the road while listening and dancing to music.



* When the dazzling's shed their human bodies, you can see that their amulets are a part of their siren forms. Later, the amulets are broken into several pieces and fall on the floor. What's worse, without the amulets, they can't sing. Does that mean that the amulets are like throats, And losing the amulets was like getting their throats ripped out? Adding to that is the fact that they probably aren't actual rock, the dazzlings survived an attack that destroyed their gemstones.
* The dazzlings sing an [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic amazing song]] about how you are being hypnotized by their music. Repeated listening will make it feel like [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou they really are]].

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* When the dazzling's Dazzlings shed their human bodies, you can see that their amulets are a part of their siren forms. Later, the amulets are broken into several pieces and fall on the floor. What's worse, without the amulets, they can't sing. Does that mean that the amulets are like throats, And losing the amulets was like getting their throats ripped out? Adding to that is the fact that they probably aren't actual rock, the dazzlings Dazzlings survived an attack that destroyed their gemstones.
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* Several people have commented on the fact that the Dazzlings' songs are better sounding than the Rainbooms' singing. And that makes perfect sense! The Dazzlings are sirens who have magical powers which fuel their singing. The Rainbooms are an all-girl garage band. The Dazzlings are meant to be alluring, and their singing is meant to be of the ear worm variety. The Rainbooms sing for the love of it and aren't professionals. [[spoiler: It can also imply that the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou audience isn't safe from the Dazzlings' enchantment...]]]]

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* Several people have commented on the fact that the Dazzlings' songs are better sounding than the Rainbooms' singing. And that makes perfect sense! The Dazzlings are sirens who have magical powers which fuel their singing. The Rainbooms are an all-girl garage band. The Dazzlings are meant to be alluring, and their singing is meant to be of the ear worm variety.alluring. The Rainbooms sing for the love of it and aren't professionals. [[spoiler: It can also imply that the [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou audience isn't safe from the Dazzlings' enchantment...]]]]
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* The dazzlings sing an [[EarWorm amazing]] [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic song]] about how you are being hypnotized by their music. Repeated listening will make it feel like [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou they really are]].

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* The dazzlings sing an [[EarWorm amazing]] [[SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic amazing song]] about how you are being hypnotized by their music. Repeated listening will make it feel like [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou they really are]].
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* The Dazzlings' songs cause those listening to be ultra-competitive and give into hate. We watched, we saw it happen on screen, and ''[[EarWorm and we're still loving it]]''! Just imagine what they could do if they were real!

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* The Dazzlings' songs cause those listening to be ultra-competitive and give into hate. We watched, we saw it happen on screen, and ''[[EarWorm and ''and we're still loving it]]''! it''! Just imagine what they could do if they were real!
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*** There's also this: [[spoiler: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green ([[GreenEyes as]] [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.]]

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*** There's also this: [[spoiler: When you consider the Elements of Harmony, Rainbow is red, Applejack is orange, Fluttershy's pink replaces yellow ([[RealityEnsues presumably because the yellow would be harder to see against the gold borders of the Elements or too easily confused with the orange]]), Twilight's magenta element replaces green ([[GreenEyes as]] ( as [[SicklyGreenGlow green]] [[EmeraldPower is often]] [[GreenRocks considered a]] [[WindIsGreen magical]] [[GreenLanternRing color]] [[note]]Ironically, none of these tropes apply to Twilight herself.[[/note]]), then it's Pinkie Pie's blue Element, and in terms of the Mane Six, you then have Rarity with purple. This leaves indigo for Sunset Shimmer, which is the one color that is ''always'' the one left off of six-colored rainbow drawings and some people even claim it doesn't even count as a color. Sunset Shimmer is constantly being left out of the group activities and is the person everyone tends to ignore and shun, and even in a meta sense, she's not counted as an official member of the Mane Six.]]
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*** Fiendship has been contradicted by the show and is therefore no longer considered canon.


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*** Billions more where those ones came from. And as we saw during their brief cameos in Shadow Play the Sirens weren't concerned about the wellbeing of those they affected seeing as they drove them to physically attack each other.


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*** There's always more people to replace the ones lost, and the increased amount of negative energy they'd receive from such an action may make it worth the loss.


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** Even worse, at their full power they drove their victims to actually attack each other instead of just arguing and were so strong even Starswhirl and the Pillars couldn't defeat them and had to resort to trapping them in anouther world. The Humane 7 working on just their leftover magic from Twilight's crown wouldn't have been able to match that.
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*** [[spoiler:Or even just [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyEquestriaGirlsFriendshipGames a well-meaning and curious young scientist whose research turns into something beyond her control.]]]]

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* This movie marks the point in the series where the villains start becoming genuinely threatening, and TheStinger establishes that there is indeed a human Twilight. Combined with the fact that, human characters tend to have roughly the same personality their pony counterpart had ''before'' character development. Human Twilight's appearance makes it even easier to assume there's a human Sunset out there too, but the other two points suggest that if the Rainbooms ever bump into her, she might prove a far more dangerous foe than "our" Sunset did.

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* This movie marks the point in the series where the villains start becoming genuinely threatening, and TheStinger establishes that there is indeed a human Twilight. Combined with the fact that, that human characters tend to have roughly the same personality their pony counterpart had ''before'' character development. Human Twilight's appearance makes it even easier to assume there's a human Sunset out there too, but the other two points suggest that if the Rainbooms ever bump into her, she might prove a far more dangerous foe than "our" Sunset did.
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* This movie marks the point in the series where the villains start becoming genuinely threatening, and TheStinger establishes that there is indeed a human Twilight. Combined with the fact that, as mentioned in Fridge Logic, human characters tend to have roughly the same personality their pony counterpart had ''before'' character development. Human Twilight's appearance makes it even easier to assume there's a human Sunset out there too, but the other two points suggest that if the Rainbooms ever bump into her, she might prove a far more dangerous foe than "our" Sunset did.

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* This movie marks the point in the series where the villains start becoming genuinely threatening, and TheStinger establishes that there is indeed a human Twilight. Combined with the fact that, as mentioned in Fridge Logic, human characters tend to have roughly the same personality their pony counterpart had ''before'' character development. Human Twilight's appearance makes it even easier to assume there's a human Sunset out there too, but the other two points suggest that if the Rainbooms ever bump into her, she might prove a far more dangerous foe than "our" Sunset did.
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* The dazzlings sing an [[EarWorm amazing]] [[AwesomeMusic song]] about how you are being hypnotized by their music. Repeated listening will make it feel like [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou they really are]].

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* When the dazzling's shed their human bodies, you can see that their amulets are a part of their siren forms. Later, the amulets are [[Squick broken into several pieces and fall on the floor]]. What's worse, without the amulets, they can't sing. Does that mean losing the amulets hurt them.

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* When the dazzling's shed their human bodies, you can see that their amulets are a part of their siren forms. Later, the amulets are [[Squick broken into several pieces and fall on the floor]].floor. What's worse, without the amulets, they can't sing. Does that mean that the amulets are like throats, And losing the amulets hurt them. was like getting their throats ripped out? Adding to that is the fact that they probably aren't actual rock, the dazzlings survived an attack that destroyed their gemstones.

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** However, considering how the Humane Five and Twilight helped Sunset Shimmer after her defeat, the Dazzlings, should they appear in the next film, might have a CharacterArc similar to Sunset's in this one, with the Humane Five AND Sunset being the ones helping them become accepted in the school.


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*** Also, how will the sirens get food? Most people wouldn't give them food, they will likely be afraid of the main 5, they can't be arrested as canterlot high has no proof they did anything wrong, and they are never shown to have homes.


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* After seeing the Sirens in action in the ''Friendship Is Magic'' episode "Shadow Play", we can conclude that the Rainbooms were lucky that even the Dazzlings' projections of their true forms were still far from their full power. Sure, their sonic attacks could dispel Twilight's sparks, push away the girls and apparently hit hard enough to temporarily put them in some sort of stupor, but that was still a lot less dangerous than the BreathWeapon demonstrated in "Shadow Play", which can vaporize rocks. Had the Sirens regained powers of this caliber, the Equestria Girls would have been in real trouble.

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!!FridgeBrilliance
[[AC:General]]
* The use of the eight shorts to tease the film to offload otherwise trivia details that would have bogged down the film. The film itself works completely without any of the information given by the shorts for the intended target demographic (young girls). However, to the more nit-picking older fans, questions like "Doesn't anyone else see these pony transformations?" or "Why did they even get a band together?" would remain unanswered in the film. Instead, while we don't get a full narrative towards this, the shorts answer enough of the questions so that the film doesn't seem as abruptly introducing these concepts. In addition, two of the shorts: "Guitar Centered" and "Hampocalypse Now" set elements that would become significant in the film: Rainbow's and Trixie's rivalry, and Rarity's insatiable urge to create fashion despite other priorities. [[spoiler:As well as "Music to my Ears" establishing how little of the outside world DJ Pon-3 hears with her headphones on.]]
* The last two shorts, "Shake Your Tail!" and "Perfect Day for Fun!", fit perfectly as sequels to the movie (if you ignore the daydream explanation from the novelization, which just doesn't fit). First off all, it's only possible for Twilight to get back into the human world after the movie, since she found a way to reopen the portal. Also, you'd notice that the group's anthropony forms feature the "Rainbow Power" hair, something that isn't added until the end of the movie. Their costumes are also better-looking and more personalized, Rarity having taken into account some of the complaints about the initial set. As for why Sunset Shimmer is nowhere to be seen, whatever the reason that would explain ''why'' they'd call on Twilight for both performances, to have a sixth member at hand for the song.
** If they can activate the portal whenever they want, Sunset Shimmer (having learned what Celestia was really trying to teach her about friendship) may have decided that it was time to visit Equestria.

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[[AC:Guitar Centered]]

[[AC:Hamstocalypse Now]]

[[AC:Pinkie on the One]]
* Putting Pinkie Pie in the role of the drummer not only fits well with her personality and boundless energy, it also has an added bonus: avoiding that Pinkie would be ''bouncing all over the place'' if she'd have a more portable instrument. There's enough of Rainbow Dash doing that already....

[[AC:Player Piano]]
* According to novelization, Rarity borrowed the piano from Trixie. That explains why it doesn't have wheels -- Trixie doesn't trust them!

[[AC:A Case for the Bass]]

[[AC:Shake Your Tail!]]

[[AC:Perfect Day for Fun!]]
* Twilight and Applejack drag Fluttershy into a haunted house attraction, but they end up fleeing while Fluttershy just walks out, shrugging. Most likely explanation: the haunted house is using some sort of scary critters (spiders, snakes, rats, big creepy crawlies, etc.) to scare off the customers. As shown with pony Fluttershy (especially in the comics), she's utterly unafraid of animals, even the most ugly or frightening, it would make sense human Fluttershy is the same.
** Also of note is Fluttershy's reaction to seeing the Discord doll. Twilight probably assumed, that like her Fluttershy, she would have liked the Discord doll and got it for her. Unfortunately for Twilight, human Fluttershy freaked out at the sight of the doll and smacked it with a mallet.
* Applejack coming in last to spike. She's a Human, she's strong, but not abnormally so. He may look like a dog but he's still a dragon from equestria, a Dragon who built a massive tower of rocks, something pony Rainbow Dash thought to be impossible.
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** The Short Hamstpocalypse Now shows that Fluttershy may actually be able to ''hypnotise'' people with her Pony Up abilities. Thank goodness that power went to such a kind hearted person...

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!!FridgeBrilliance
[[AC:General]]
* The use of the eight shorts to tease the film to offload otherwise trivia details that would have bogged down the film. The film itself works completely without any of the information given by the shorts for the intended target demographic (young girls). However, to the more nit-picking older fans, questions like "Doesn't anyone else see these pony transformations?" or "Why did they even get a band together?" would remain unanswered in the film. Instead, while we don't get a full narrative towards this, the shorts answer enough of the questions so that the film doesn't seem as abruptly introducing these concepts. In addition, two of the shorts: "Guitar Centered" and "Hampocalypse Now" set elements that would become significant in the film: Rainbow's and Trixie's rivalry, and Rarity's insatiable urge to create fashion despite other priorities. [[spoiler:As well as "Music to my Ears" establishing how little of the outside world DJ Pon-3 hears with her headphones on.]]
* The last two shorts, "Shake Your Tail!" and "Perfect Day for Fun!", fit perfectly as sequels to the movie (if you ignore the daydream explanation from the novelization, which just doesn't fit). First off all, it's only possible for Twilight to get back into the human world after the movie, since she found a way to reopen the portal. Also, you'd notice that the group's anthropony forms feature the "Rainbow Power" hair, something that isn't added until the end of the movie. Their costumes are also better-looking and more personalized, Rarity having taken into account some of the complaints about the initial set. As for why Sunset Shimmer is nowhere to be seen, whatever the reason that would explain ''why'' they'd call on Twilight for both performances, to have a sixth member at hand for the song.
** If they can activate the portal whenever they want, Sunset Shimmer (having learned what Celestia was really trying to teach her about friendship) may have decided that it was time to visit Equestria.

[[AC:Music to My Ears]]

[[AC:Guitar Centered]]

[[AC:Hamstocalypse Now]]

[[AC:Pinkie on the One]]
* Putting Pinkie Pie in the role of the drummer not only fits well with her personality and boundless energy, it also has an added bonus: avoiding that Pinkie would be ''bouncing all over the place'' if she'd have a more portable instrument. There's enough of Rainbow Dash doing that already....

[[AC:Player Piano]]
* According to novelization, Rarity borrowed the piano from Trixie. That explains why it doesn't have wheels -- Trixie doesn't trust them!

[[AC:A Case for the Bass]]

[[AC:Shake Your Tail!]]

[[AC:Perfect Day for Fun!]]
* Twilight and Applejack drag Fluttershy into a haunted house attraction, but they end up fleeing while Fluttershy just walks out, shrugging. Most likely explanation: the haunted house is using some sort of scary critters (spiders, snakes, rats, big creepy crawlies, etc.) to scare off the customers. As shown with pony Fluttershy (especially in the comics), she's utterly unafraid of animals, even the most ugly or frightening, it would make sense human Fluttershy is the same.
** Also of note is Fluttershy's reaction to seeing the Discord doll. Twilight probably assumed, that like her Fluttershy, she would have liked the Discord doll and got it for her. Unfortunately for Twilight, human Fluttershy freaked out at the sight of the doll and smacked it with a mallet.
* Applejack coming in last to spike. She's a Human, she's strong, but not abnormally so. He may look like a dog but he's still a dragon from equestria, a Dragon who built a massive tower of rocks, something pony Rainbow Dash thought to be impossible.
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!!FridgeHorror
** The Short Hamstpocalypse Now shows that Fluttershy may actually be able to ''hypnotise'' people with her Pony Up abilities. Thank goodness that power went to such a kind hearted person...
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