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*** Despite this, Hawk Moth CAN force his victims to do what he wants if he really wants to. The best examples of this are in "Pixelator", when Pixelator's obsession of taking Jagged Stone's photograph outclasses Hawk Moth's order to get the Miraculous, he causes Pixelator pain until the villain agrees to focus on the Miraculous and ''Evillustrator'', when he takes control of Evillustrator's hand for the same reason.

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*** Despite this, Hawk Moth CAN force his victims to do what he wants if he really wants to. The best examples of this are in "Pixelator", when Pixelator's obsession of taking Jagged Stone's photograph outclasses Hawk Moth's order to get the Miraculous, he causes Pixelator pain until the villain agrees to focus on the Miraculous and ''Evillustrator'', when he takes control of Evillustrator's hand for the same reason.wanting Marinette to fall in love with him.
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*** Despite this, Hawk Moth CAN force his victims to do what he wants if he really wants to. Probably the best example of this is in "Pixelator", when Pixelator's obsession of taking Jagged Stone's photograph outclasses Hawk Moth's order to get the Miraculous, he somehow causes Pixelator pain until the villain agrees to focus on the Miraculous.

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*** Despite this, Hawk Moth CAN force his victims to do what he wants if he really wants to. Probably the The best example examples of this is are in "Pixelator", when Pixelator's obsession of taking Jagged Stone's photograph outclasses Hawk Moth's order to get the Miraculous, he somehow causes Pixelator pain until the villain agrees to focus on the Miraculous.Miraculous and ''Evillustrator'', when he takes control of Evillustrator's hand for the same reason.
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* Some of the akumatized villains' names aren't very good puns. But this could be justified by the fact that Gabriel only has a short moment to think of them.
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* Though out of order on Netflix and certain channels, this episode actually would introduce Mayura in a logical way if you think of why Hawk Moth would risk things on a damage Miraculous that took his wife from him. Gabriel would be hesitant to give Nathalie another chance in the field but would reconsider if it was largely for observation and reconocense, especially since Chloé was making enough of a fuss to make them take notice. She wouldn't exacerbate the Peacock Miraculous's damage if it was largely limited to being a disguise and for hand-to-hand combat. Amoks would come in handy but only if absolutely necessary since that would cause a relapse for her.

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* Though out of order on Netflix and certain channels, this episode actually would introduce Mayura in a logical way if you think of why Hawk Moth would risk things on a damage damaged Miraculous that took his wife from him. Gabriel would be hesitant to give Nathalie another chance in the field but would reconsider if it was largely for observation and reconocense, reconnaissance, especially since Chloé was making enough of a fuss to make them take notice. She wouldn't exacerbate the Peacock Miraculous's damage if it was largely limited to being a disguise and for hand-to-hand combat. Amoks would come in handy but only if absolutely necessary since that would cause a relapse for her.
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** Ladybug was wearing Pegasus's Miraculous herself.

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** Ladybug was wearing Pegasus's Pegasus' Miraculous herself.
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** For better or worse, assuming Lila isn't actually an adult (despite the SerialKiller theory above suggesting such) there's a very high chance that she'll ''die'' from using the Butterfly Miraculous.

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*** In "Strike Back", Ladybug admits that she was keeping Cat Noir at a distance.

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*** In "Strike Back", "Strikeback", Ladybug admits that she was keeping Cat Noir at a distance.



* Shadow Moth doesn't ask Risk to bring him the two Miraculous. That's because Risk isn't supposed to retrieve them, but to handicap the heroes. Strike Back actually has to fight the heroes and obtain the Miraculous.

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* Shadow Moth doesn't ask Risk to bring him the two Miraculous. That's because Risk isn't supposed to retrieve them, but to handicap the heroes. Strike Back Strikeback actually has to fight the heroes and obtain the Miraculous.



* Adrien and Lila's newest fashion ensemble [[PaletteSwap is just their regular outfits drenched in white]]. Was it a cheap method for the animators to avoid drawing new outfits again? Or most likely to show how Gabriel wasn't going to commit to the world tour fashion shoot as he just needed it as an excuse to get Adrien out of Paris before summoning Strike Back. This is solidified as Gabriel orders Nathalie to cancel the shoot immediately after the sentimonter's incineration.

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* Adrien and Lila's newest fashion ensemble [[PaletteSwap is just their regular outfits drenched in white]]. Was it a cheap method for the animators to avoid drawing new outfits again? Or most likely to show how Gabriel wasn't going to commit to the world tour fashion shoot as he just needed it as an excuse to get Adrien out of Paris before summoning Strike Back.Strikeback. This is solidified as Gabriel orders Nathalie to cancel the shoot immediately after the sentimonter's incineration.



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* Ladybug didn't call on the whole squad to deal with the huge sentimonster tearing up Paris:

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* There is a reason why Ladybug didn't call on the whole squad to deal with the huge sentimonster tearing up Paris:



** But above all, in "Risk" Alya minimizes Marinette's concerns and refuses to help her.

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** But above all, in "Risk" "Risk", Alya minimizes Marinette's concerns and refuses to help her.



* When Félix/Flairmidable detransformed in "Strike Back" after giving Gabriel all the other Miraculous, [[FreezeFrameBonus a closer look at Barkk]] shows that she's not outraged or horrified, but instead quite somber and even stoic. In hindsight, her expression was one of realization; as this episode shows, she's known since [=WWII=] that one day all the Miraculous save for the Ladybug, the Black Cat, and the Rabbit would fall into the hands of a supervillain. For her, it wasn't a matter of ''if'' Hawk Moth would get his hands on the Miraculous, but of ''when'' and ''how''.

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* When Félix/Flairmidable Flairmidable detransformed in "Strike Back" "Strikeback" after giving Gabriel all the other Miraculous, [[FreezeFrameBonus a closer look at Barkk]] shows that she's not outraged or horrified, but instead quite somber and even stoic. In hindsight, her expression was one of realization; as this episode shows, she's known since [=WWII=] that one day all the Miraculous save for the Ladybug, the Black Cat, and the Rabbit would fall into the hands of a supervillain. For her, it wasn't a matter of ''if'' Hawk Moth would get his hands on the Miraculous, but of ''when'' and ''how''.



** The mutual contempt between Gabriel and Amelie. Apparently, [[RagsToRiches Gabriel became a famous and rich designer by his own means]], so he would despise Amelie for getting high status effortlessly, as well as a possible feeling that [[InsecureLoveInterest he isn't good enough]] for [[SpoiledSweet Emilie]]. While for someone like [[RichBitch Amilie]], Gabriel remains a nobody.

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** The mutual contempt between Gabriel and Amelie. Apparently, [[RagsToRiches Gabriel became a famous and rich designer by his own means]], so he would despise Amelie for getting high status effortlessly, as well as a possible feeling that [[InsecureLoveInterest he isn't good enough]] for [[SpoiledSweet Emilie]]. While for someone like [[RichBitch Amilie]], Amelie]], Gabriel remains a nobody.



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%%* Ladybug giving Adrien his parents' wedding rings after informing him of his father's passing. As the rings are revealed to be his amok which Gabriel used to subtly control him, it can be a play that she is making Adrien the master of his life.

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%%* Ladybug giving Adrien his parents' wedding rings after informing him of his father's passing. As the rings are revealed to be his amok which Gabriel used to subtly control him, it can be a play that she is making Adrien the master of his own life.



!!"World: New York – United Heroez"

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!!"Miraculous World Shanghai"

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!!"Miraculous World Paris - Shadybug and Claw Noir"

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* In "Mayura", Marinette's classmates threw her a party because of her helpfulness and good deeds and even organized her to kiss Adrien, and everybody is happy by the end of the episode. [[HappyEndingOverride Come "Chameleon"]], and her reputation is put at stake when Lila [[ConsummateLiar easily convinces everyone with her lies]] and pulls {{Wounded Gazelle Gambit}}s to turn the class against Marinette. Almost everyone including the nicest ones is practically hypnotized by her lies and Marinette's relationships are quite severed. But this begs the question: what if Lila could ruin another person's reputation the same way she did to Marinette? What if she targeted [[AlphaBitch Chloé]], [[HateSink who already draws lots of ire from her class for good reasons]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold yet is starting to change for the better]], and made her out to be worse than she already was? If Marinette [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer being shot by]] {{Death Glare}}s [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer from her class]] was already harsh, [[IrrationalHatred imagine Chloé going through the same thing]].

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* In "Mayura", Marinette's classmates threw her a party because of her helpfulness and good deeds and even organized her to kiss Adrien, and everybody is happy by the end of the episode. [[HappyEndingOverride Come "Chameleon"]], this episode]], and her reputation is put at stake when Lila [[ConsummateLiar easily convinces everyone with her lies]] and pulls {{Wounded Gazelle Gambit}}s to turn the class against Marinette. Almost everyone including the nicest ones is practically hypnotized by her lies and Marinette's relationships are quite severed. But this begs the question: what if Lila could ruin another person's reputation the same way she did to Marinette? What if she targeted [[AlphaBitch Chloé]], [[HateSink who already draws lots of ire from her class for good reasons]] [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold yet is starting to change for the better]], and made her out to be worse than she already was? If Marinette [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer being shot by]] {{Death Glare}}s [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer from her class]] was already harsh, [[IrrationalHatred imagine Chloé going through the same thing]].



** The matter becomes even worse after "Confrontation", which reveals that Lila has been going to another school with another identity (Cerise), making it entirely possible for her to have done this with someone there.



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* Félix's expression of sadness as he destroys Red Moon while calling his creation "sister", becomes more painful once his true nature as Sentimonster is revealed.

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* Félix's expression of sadness as he destroys Red Moon while calling his creation "sister", becomes more painful once his true nature as a Sentimonster is revealed.



* More Fridge Tearjerker, but this episode adds context to Félix's debut:

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* More Fridge Tearjerker, FridgeSadness, but this episode adds context to Félix's debut:



!!"World: New York – United Heroez"

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!!"World: Paris - Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noir"

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* More Fridge Sadness than anything, but Claw Noir's unhesitant willingness to take Cat Noir's Cataclysm to the chest just to gain the upper hand in a fight takes on a darker note, when it's later revealed both he and Shadybug were already slowly dying anyway by using the Miraculous without a timer, and that it seemed to him his Gabriel doesn't care about his anguish over the loss of his version of Émilie.

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* More Fridge Sadness FridgeSadness than anything, but Claw Noir's unhesitant willingness to take Cat Noir's Cataclysm to the chest just to gain the upper hand in a fight takes on a darker note, when it's later revealed both he and Shadybug were already slowly dying anyway by using the Miraculous without a timer, and that it seemed to him his Gabriel doesn't care about his anguish over the loss of his version of Émilie.Emilie.


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* Shadybug mentions having been bullied by her universe's version of Chloé until the Supreme gave her the Ladybug Miraculous, and says "now no one will hurt me anymore". Did she ''kill'' her universe's version of Chloé (and presumably that of Lila and Félix too, assuming she met them)?
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** As disturbing as the implication is, to be as skilled at manipulation as she is would require ''years'' of experience. With that in mind, there's a ''very'' high chance that Lila's actually an ''adult'' pretending to be a teenager. Imagine a 20-or-30-something year old woman going around town with multiple identities, conning multiple clueless women into thinking she's their daughter, playing innocent children like puppets, and trying to ruin a 14-year old girl's life and steal her boyfriend. The mere possibility that Lila's a [[PaedoHunt pedophile]] is disturbing by itself alone.

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** As disturbing as the implication is, to be as skilled at manipulation as she is would require ''years'' of experience. With that in mind, there's a ''very'' high chance that Lila's actually an ''adult'' pretending to be a teenager. Imagine a 20-or-30-something year old woman going around town with multiple identities, conning multiple clueless women into thinking she's their daughter, playing innocent children like puppets, and trying to ruin a 14-year old girl's life and steal her boyfriend. The mere possibility that Lila's a [[PaedoHunt pedophile]] the p-word is disturbing by itself alone.
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** As disturbing as the implication is, to be as skilled at manipulation as she is would require ''years'' of experience. With that in mind, there's a ''very'' high chance that Lila's actually an ''adult'' pretending to be a teenager. Imagine a 20-or-30-something year old woman going around town with multiple identities, conning multiple clueless women into thinking she's their daughter, playing innocent children like puppets, and trying to ruin a 14-year old girl's life and steal her boyfriend. The mere possibility that Lila's a P-E-D-O is disturbing by itself alone.

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** As disturbing as the implication is, to be as skilled at manipulation as she is would require ''years'' of experience. With that in mind, there's a ''very'' high chance that Lila's actually an ''adult'' pretending to be a teenager. Imagine a 20-or-30-something year old woman going around town with multiple identities, conning multiple clueless women into thinking she's their daughter, playing innocent children like puppets, and trying to ruin a 14-year old girl's life and steal her boyfriend. The mere possibility that Lila's a P-E-D-O [[PaedoHunt pedophile]] is disturbing by itself alone.

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* The fact that if a minor using a Miraculous for evil slowly kills them might be another reason why the Guardians only allowed the jewels to be used by adults. It wasn't simply because children were less able to wield them, but because if the power went to their heads and they decided used their jewels for evil, they'd be unnecessarily putting their lives at risk.

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* The fact that if a minor using a Miraculous for evil slowly kills them might be another reason why the Guardians only allowed the jewels to be used by adults. adults and not children. It wasn't simply because children minors were less able to wield them, but because if the power went to their heads and they decided used their jewels powers for evil, they'd be unnecessarily putting their lives at risk.risk.
** It kind of ties into FridgeHorror: Have minors gotten their hands on the Miraculous and used their powers for evil centuries before the show in the main universe?



* Considering how Alternate Marinette's attempt to summon Gimmi only accelerated her necrosis from using her powers for evil, imagine what would happen to Gabriel if he tried using the Alternate Miraculous. At best, he'd be disoriented and furious. At worst, he'd be unnecessarily accelerating his Cataclysm wound.

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* Considering how Alternate Marinette's attempt to summon Gimmi only accelerated her necrosis from using her powers for evil, imagine what would happen to Gabriel if he tried using the Alternate Miraculous. At best, he'd be disoriented and furious. At worst, he'd be unnecessarily accelerating his newfound Cataclysm wound.
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** the worst part is that according to the "word of god" the sentis created to look like humans are in fact humans(since no matter if they are born through magic,technology or natural a human is still a human),that means that every human senti created by gabrie and nathaliel were humans and to disappear them they were killed,they are not villains now they are serial killers.
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** the worst part is that according to the "word of god" the sentis created to look like humans are in fact humans(since no matter if they are born through magic,technology or natural a human is still a human),that means that every human senti created by gabrie and nathaliel were humans and to disappear them they were killed,they are not villains now they are serial killers.
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* As Shadybug and Claw Noir demonstrated what happens if a minor uses their powers for evil, will the same thing happen to a minor if they use a damaged Miraculous?
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** The kwamis' "Not again!" in "Ephemeral" implies that the wish has been used at least once before. Given the potentially terrible cost, it seems likely that only someone incredibly reckless or self-centered would dare.

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* Marinette's intense dislike over Chloé was thought to be from the latter's unpleasant personality and frequent flirting with Adrien. That is partially true, but another and more personal reason is how Chloé would bully her in the past; "Origins" state it was for (at least) four years before the storyline.
** It may have been longer, considering Sabine's astonishment is that they could be in the same ''class'' for four years in a row.

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* Marinette's intense dislike over Chloé was thought to be from the latter's unpleasant personality and frequent flirting with Adrien. That is partially true, True, but another and more personal reason is how also because she got heavily traumatized by Chloé would bully her as revealed in the past; "Origins" state it was for (at least) four years flashback sequence of "Derision", which took place a year before the storyline.
** It may have been longer, considering Sabine's astonishment is that they could be in the same ''class'' for four years in a row.
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* The confirmation that Adrien was created before Felix explains Gabriel's disdain for his nephew and Colt:

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** For Gabriel, Felix is nothing more than an "imitation" of Adrien. And this gives new meaning to the fact that Gabriel always referred to Adrien as "perfect" and that he always pushed him to be the best at everything. Gabriel wanted his son, an "original creation of Emilie" to surpass the imitation created by Colt.

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** For Gabriel, Felix Félix is nothing more than an "imitation" of Adrien. And this gives new meaning to the fact that Gabriel always referred to Adrien as "perfect" and that he always pushed him to be the best at everything. Gabriel wanted his son, an "original creation of Emilie" to surpass the imitation created by Colt.



* Argos seems easily forgiven but Ladybug knowing of Felix's turbulant upbringing and true origins would convince her that he's on the level or at least can be given proper guidance with his powers since he opened up to her.

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* Argos seems easily forgiven but Ladybug knowing of Felix's Félix's turbulant upbringing and true origins would convince her that he's on the level or at least can be given proper guidance with his powers since he opened up to her.

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* The confirmation that Adrien was created before Felix explains Gabriel's disdain for his nephew and Colt:
** Why would Colt create a son exactly like his nephew? What would a fashion designer like Gabriel hate the most? An imitation.
** For Gabriel, Felix is nothing more than an "imitation" of Adrien. And this gives new meaning to the fact that Gabriel always referred to Adrien as "perfect" and that he always pushed him to be the best at everything. Gabriel wanted his son, an "original creation of Emilie" to surpass the imitation created by Colt.



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* So the Horse Miraculous is a pair of... [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Shades???]] Sure, this ''looks'' random, but keep in mind that the Rabbit Miraculous gives the holder the power of TimeTravel. It's entirely possible that the Mage saw the future one way or another.

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* So the Horse Miraculous is a pair of... [[TheLastOfTheseIsNotLikeTheOthers Shades???]] Shades??? Sure, this ''looks'' random, but keep in mind that the Rabbit Miraculous gives the holder the power of TimeTravel. It's entirely possible that the Mage saw the future one way or another.
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** Him returning as Viperion even with the Moth Miraculous unaccounted for makes sense since, under Su-Han tutelage, he would be able to ward off Akumas and keep the future Hawk Moth (as Timetagger established) from learning what he knows. Additionally, it would compensate for his lack of weaponry.


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* Argos seems easily forgiven but Ladybug knowing of Felix's turbulant upbringing and true origins would convince her that he's on the level or at least can be given proper guidance with his powers since he opened up to her.
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** Assuming they caught on to her, it wouldn't be surprising if she did.

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** Assuming Considering how most teens in Paris can't seem to put two and two together, somewhat doubtful unless they caught started catching on to her, it wouldn't be surprising if she did.
her. Though my question is whether or not she's "disposed" (a'la the SerialKiller theory above) any of them along the way.




** Additionally, did Adrien ever experience any abuse from Colt Fathom when he was masquerading as his cousin?
*** Adrien "was" pretty confused and upset by Marinette when she was wearing the cowboy hat in "Psycomedian". He's usually pretty tolerant of her acting strange - maybe a subconscious connection to a past event was making him more anxious than usual?

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** Additionally, did Adrien ever experience any abuse from Colt Fathom when he was masquerading as his cousin?
*** Adrien "was" ''was'' pretty confused and upset by Marinette when she was wearing the cowboy hat in "Psycomedian". He's usually pretty tolerant of her acting strange - maybe a subconscious connection to a past event was making him more anxious than usual?

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* ''New York'' showed that, despite ''Miracle Queen'' suggesting otherwise, Gabriel did not immediately fix the Peacock Miraculous. Since Master Fu couldn't fully translate the Grimoire, Gabriel and Nathalie likely couldn't either.
** Also, despite his vast fortune and having Tomoe provide technical support (as Season 5 showed), it would still take a while for Gabriel to acquire the materials necessary to fix the jewel.
** There's also the fact that Gabriel would obviously be reluctant to use the Miraculous that took his wife from him. And considering how similar the Peacock's are to the Butterfly's, he might've considered Amokization a redundant power.
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** In "Gabriel Agreste" back in season 4, Amelie's animal mask at the party is a rabbit. What type of stuffed animal was it that Colt destroyed in Félix's performance when Félix was describing what happened "if he became fond of anyone who displeased his father"..?


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*** Adrien "was" pretty confused and upset by Marinette when she was wearing the cowboy hat in "Psycomedian". He's usually pretty tolerant of her acting strange - maybe a subconscious connection to a past event was making him more anxious than usual?
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* The Sentimonster reveal explains Félix's cryptic answer to Duusu during their first meeting. He wasn't just his new holder, he was Duusu's ''family''.
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* Why didn't the Guardians take away Dark Grimalkin's Miraculous? Because he was participating in the war under orders from his monarch, so he couldn't be considered a rebellious holder.

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* Why didn't the Guardians take away Dark Grimalkin's Miraculous? Because he was participating in the war under orders from his monarch, regent, so he couldn't be considered a rebellious holder.
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* Something else also makes sense with TheReveal–namely, the designs of some of the Akumatized villains. A number of them (the Bubbler and Reflekta in particular) are [[FashionVictimVillain fashion victim villains]], despite Gabriel's career. This makes sense when you realize that Gabriel doesn't want people to find out he's Hawk Moth...and what better way to keep people from making connections between a supervillain and a famous fashion mogul than to have your minions dressed as gaudily as possible?

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* Something else also makes sense with TheReveal–namely, TheReveal -- namely, the designs of some of the Akumatized villains. A number of them (the Bubbler and Reflekta in particular) are [[FashionVictimVillain fashion victim villains]], despite Gabriel's career. This makes sense when you realize that Gabriel doesn't want people to find out he's Hawk Moth...and what better way to keep people from making connections between a supervillain and a famous fashion mogul than to have your minions dressed as gaudily as possible?
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->'''Marinette:''' Psst, Juleka !
->'''Juleka:''' Une poubelle qui parle ? Ça déchire !
Which roughly translates as ''"A talking trash can? That rocks!"'', delivered with her usual subdued tone and a smile.
* Mr. Pigeon could actually be a very dangerous Akuma if played strategically. He can ''talk to Pigeons''. While they sounds dumb, think of how many of the birds in Paris there are? AnimalEyeSpy anyone, and others with this power, such as ''ComicBook/TheFalcon'', are able to use this power as an incredibly dangerous spy network because in cities the birds are everywhere. He could probably find out Ladybug and Cat Noir's identities, or even find Master Fu. However the very manner of akumitization neuters this threat: because Akumas are driven by negative emotions and are chaotic as a result they don't always think that straight forward. Mr. Pigeon is motivated by his pigeons, not by his potential as a super villain. This limitation, among others, is one of Hawk Moth's greatest weaknesses, and is noticeable in akuma villains who are either willing participants (like Volpina or Miracle Queen) or are genuinely motivated in the general direction of defeating heroes (like the first Puppeteer).

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** Which roughly translates as ''"A talking trash can? That rocks!"'', delivered with her usual subdued tone and a smile.
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* Mr. Pigeon could actually be a very dangerous Akuma if played strategically. He can ''talk to Pigeons''. While they sounds dumb, think of how many of the birds in Paris there are? AnimalEyeSpy anyone, and others with this power, such as ''ComicBook/TheFalcon'', are able to use this power as an incredibly dangerous spy network because in cities the birds are everywhere. He could probably find out Ladybug and Cat Noir's identities, or even find Master Fu. However the very manner of akumitization neuters this threat: because Akumas are driven by negative emotions and are chaotic as a result they don't always think that straight forward. Mr. Pigeon is motivated by his pigeons, not by his potential as a super villain. This limitation, among others, is one of Hawk Moth's greatest weaknesses, and is noticeable in akuma villains who are either willing participants (like Volpina or Miracle Queen) or are genuinely motivated in the general direction of defeating heroes (like the first Puppeteer).
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*Kim being chosen by Master Fu and not Marinette takes on a different context with what he did in this flashback. Fu saw him for who he grew into while Marinette merely kept her distance. Most likely, she took his endorsement as a sign of his change.

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* Though the Akumas must move very quickly, we've seen that they do take time to reach potential champions, and that if the victim's despair and anger fade during that time they can no longer be Akumatized. That provides yet another reason why most Akumatizations happen very close to the manor and Françoise Dupont: Hawk Moth prioritizes closer sources of emotion because they are more likely to last long enough for the Akuma to reach the potential villain. This is probably the reason why Monarch later systematically uses Kaalki's portal power to send his akuma faster and closer to its potential prey.

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* Though the Akumas must move very quickly, we've seen that they do take time to reach potential champions, and that if the victim's despair and anger fade during that time they can no longer be Akumatized. That provides yet another reason why most Akumatizations happen very close to the manor and Françoise Dupont: Hawk Moth prioritizes closer sources of emotion because they are more likely to last long enough for the Akuma to reach the potential villain. villain.
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