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** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.
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** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". 'Sir'." Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.
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* While with holding weapons can be justified as not wanting to cause unnecessary damage, there's never a good reason for with holding defensive gear like the varia suit.
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* Adam locks the doors behind you to keep you on the linear path. Do to a GameBreakingBug, a door becomes locked making progress imposable. Or in other words, Adam locks you in the Pyrosphere with no way out ForTheEvulz.
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* Adam locks the doors behind you to keep you on the linear path. Do Due to a GameBreakingBug, a door becomes locked making progress imposable.impossible. Or in other words, Adam locks you in the Pyrosphere with no way out ForTheEvulz.
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** Provoked in-universe by Samus when she wonders whether or not [[spoiler: Anthony]] was conscious as he burned up in lava.
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** Provoked Invoked in-universe by Samus when she wonders whether or not [[spoiler: Anthony]] was conscious as he burned up in lava.
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* Metroids were officially destroyed according to who's report
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* Metroids were officially destroyed according to who's whose report
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* Uhoh on a rush mission to uncover an illegal research conspiracy guess who just shows up and oh yeah could be the only source/expert for all this
In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of possible assasin in his own ranks (that he observes over her comms but her presence like that could be...well a performance) This more than anything may help ease you into understanding his often overly stiff and reactionary attitude though his trust and belief in her comes through in the end Samus, from his view, was looking suspicious as he could be from our own
In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of possible assasin in his own ranks (that he observes over her comms but her presence like that could be...well a performance) This more than anything may help ease you into understanding his often overly stiff and reactionary attitude though his trust and belief in her comes through in the end Samus, from his view, was looking suspicious as he could be from our own
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* Uhoh Uh-oh, on a rush mission to uncover an illegal research conspiracy guess who just shows up and and, oh yeah yeah, could be the only source/expert for all this
In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of a possibleassasin assassin in his own ranks (that he observes over her comms but her presence like that could be...well a performance) This more than anything may help ease you into understanding his often overly stiff and reactionary attitude attitude; though his trust and belief in her comes through in the end Samus, from his view, was looking as suspicious as he could be from our own
In short played from Adam's side Samus's presence and overall participation and involvement is suspicious and possibly dangerous. Moreso when factoring in rumors of a possible
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It\'s Bergman
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** Also, Madeline Bergan warns us about MB. For a while, some could think that it was just the initials for ''Mother Brain''. [[spoiler:It's in fact a little more complicated, since they played with those initials : MB are the initials for Mother Brain, but also the initials of the director of the project, Madeline Bergan. We are lead to think that MB and Madeline Bergan are in fact one and the same person, but it's in fact a RedHerring : MB stands for Melissa Bergan, who impersonated her own ''mother''.]]
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** Also, Madeline Bergan Bergman warns us about MB. For a while, some could think that it was just the initials for ''Mother Brain''. [[spoiler:It's in fact a little more complicated, since they played with those initials : initials: MB are the initials for Mother Brain, but also the initials of the director of the project, Madeline Bergan. Bergman. We are lead to think that MB and Madeline Bergan Bergman are in fact one and the same person, but it's in fact a RedHerring : RedHerring: MB stands for Melissa Bergan, Bergman, who impersonated her own ''mother''.]]
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** A proper explanation is as follow: During PTSD, her mind enters in an unstable state in which the suit interpretates as her mind about to shut down, thus it starts to shut down by itself. When she entered the coma in Fusion, it was too late for her suit to revert, because large portions of her Power Suit were corrupted by the X parasites. Accounting the fact her mind shut down too fast, the suit could never revert to its natural state.
** As for how they scraped off the Metroid DNA from her suit? What if there was a purification chamber she had to go through, which would wash off anyone's suit in seconds? Considering what we have seen of several Sci-fi games, this is the most suitable explanation.
** As for how they scraped off the Metroid DNA from her suit? What if there was a purification chamber she had to go through, which would wash off anyone's suit in seconds? Considering what we have seen of several Sci-fi games, this is the most suitable explanation.
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Samus wasn\'t in trouble there because of the lack of weapons, it was because she was BSOD-ing over seeing Ridley alive. No amount of weapons are going to help when you\'re too freaked out to fire them.
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* The in-game story recaps specifically state that Anthony saved Samus's life when he shot the adolescent Ridley with his slow-charging backpack plasma cannon. Which means Samus was in a situation where none of her active weapons could save her and failure would be fatal. If Adam had authorized Samus's ''rapid-fire'' plasma cannon she would've killed Ridley right there and then and possibly saved the day without almost everybody dying. Tactical genius, Adam is not.
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** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.
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** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.possible.
* The in-game story recaps specifically state that Anthony saved Samus's life when he shot the adolescent Ridley with his slow-charging backpack plasma cannon. Which means Samus was in a situation where none of her active weapons could save her and failure would be fatal. If Adam had authorized Samus's ''rapid-fire'' plasma cannon she would've killed Ridley right there and then and possibly saved the day without almost everybody dying. Tactical genius, Adam is not.
* The in-game story recaps specifically state that Anthony saved Samus's life when he shot the adolescent Ridley with his slow-charging backpack plasma cannon. Which means Samus was in a situation where none of her active weapons could save her and failure would be fatal. If Adam had authorized Samus's ''rapid-fire'' plasma cannon she would've killed Ridley right there and then and possibly saved the day without almost everybody dying. Tactical genius, Adam is not.
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* While with holding weapons can be justified as not wanting to cause unnecessary damage, there's never a good reason for with holding defensive gear like the varia suit.
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** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.
** Well, one can figure that Adam didn't want Samus to have full run of the ship, if she could potentially be the Deleter, so he wouldn't want to authorize the Varia Suit unless necessary, but its sorta hard to figure out the reason from Samus's end. Unless perhaps she was playing everything by the book (taking the outsider comment from Adam a bit harshly) to the point of saying "Fine I won't even use 10% of what I can do without authorization 'Sir'". Of course, this explanation seems rather stretched to this troper, but it is possible.
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**** If she merely uses concentration to summon the suit and it can be maintained when she isn't concentrating, then that breaks a fair chunk of both the Ridley scene and the Adam sacrifice scene, and we're right back where we started. Either way, it's a plothole.
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Not so; Super Metroid and Prime 2 both happened chronologically before Adam\'s death and have Ridley\'s theme as escape music.
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** Have you ever noticed that chronologically, every Metroid game that takes place after Adam's death uses the Ridley theme as the escape music? (Yes, including this one.)
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* Adam locks the doors behind you to keep you on the linear path. Do to a GameBreakingBug, a door becomes locked making progress imposable. Or in other words, Adam locks you in the Pyrosphere with no way out ForTheEvulz.
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*** Perhaps the armor does exist out of a concentration, but can be summoned/activated by it?
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*** Perhaps the armor does exist out of a concentration, but can be summoned/activated by it?it?
* While with holding weapons can be justified as not wanting to cause unnecessary damage, there's never a good reason for with holding defensive gear like the varia suit.
* While with holding weapons can be justified as not wanting to cause unnecessary damage, there's never a good reason for with holding defensive gear like the varia suit.
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*He opposes bio-weapons research but Samus broke protocol (an explicit extermination order) to turn over a living sample of a creature deemed too dangerous to exist to outpost science station
*He knows there is a faction in the GF out there trying to run around his recommendation and the standing "no bioweapons" ruling. So much so his XO and him are trying desperately to gather evidence
*Samus left to effectively become a one woman Blackwater after sympathetic but still less than stellar behavior and likely chasing a crusade to "rid the universe of suffering" or something akin to that or save everyone.
*Uhoh on a rush mission to uncover an illegal research conspiracy guess who just shows up and oh yeah could be the only source/expert for all this
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*** No, it isn't. It's apparently supposed to be taking place long enough after ''Super'' that Metroids and Space Pirates are beginning to fade from memory. Considering how much they fucked everyone up, that has to be a while.
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** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?
*** To add to those examples: How did the Feds retrieve genetic material off of her suit while she was unconscious?
*** To add to those examples: How did the Feds retrieve genetic material off of her suit while she was unconscious?
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** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?
***To add to those examples: How did the Feds retrieve genetic material off of her suit while she was unconscious?unconscious?
*** Perhaps the armor does exist out of a concentration, but can be summoned/activated by it?
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*** Perhaps the armor does exist out of a concentration, but can be summoned/activated by it?
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** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?
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** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?it?
*** To add to those examples: How did the Feds retrieve genetic material off of her suit while she was unconscious?
*** To add to those examples: How did the Feds retrieve genetic material off of her suit while she was unconscious?
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* The authorisation system falls apart as an excuse to withold upgrades the moment Samus collects the only two new abilities in this game and immediatelly activates both upon aquiring them ''without waiting for Adam's permission''.
* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration. Hell, it even breaks other parts of Other M's plot: how the hell did the Feds scrape Metroid goo off the Suit without her knowledge?
* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration. Hell, it even breaks other parts of Other M's plot: how the hell did the Feds scrape Metroid goo off the Suit without her knowledge?
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* The authorisation authorization system falls apart as an excuse to withold upgrades the moment Samus collects the only two new abilities in this game and immediatelly immediately activates both upon aquiring acquiring them ''without waiting for Adam's permission''.
* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration. Hell, it even breaks other parts of Other M's plot: how the hell did the Feds scrape Metroid goo off the Suit without herknowledge?knowledge?
** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?
* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration. Hell, it even breaks other parts of Other M's plot: how the hell did the Feds scrape Metroid goo off the Suit without her
** You can keep going with that. If the armor isn't a physical object but just something Samus can summon at will, how was it destroyed in Zero Mission? Yes, she turned it off before the crash, but she could have just turned it on afterwards. Then there's Corruption, where she's KO'd by Dark Samus, yet her suit was still active. Otherwise, how did the GF integrate the PED into it?
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* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration.
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* The Power Suit working like a HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration. Hell, it even breaks other parts of Other M's plot: how the hell did the Feds scrape Metroid goo off the Suit without her knowledge?
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*** No, it isn't. It's apparently supposed to be taking place long enough after ''Super'' that Metroids and Space Pirates are beginning to fade from memory. Considering how much they fucked everyone up, that has to be a while.
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* The Power Suit being a LightSuit completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration.
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* The Power Suit being working like a LightSuit HenshinHero's completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration.
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The authorisation system falls apart as an excuse to withold upgrades the moment Samus collects the only two new abilities in this game and immediatelly activates both upon aquiring them ''without waiting for Adam's permission''.
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* The authorisation system falls apart as an excuse to withold upgrades the moment Samus collects the only two new abilities in this game and immediatelly activates both upon aquiring them ''without waiting for Adam's permission''.permission''.
* The Power Suit being a LightSuit completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration.
* The Power Suit being a LightSuit completely breaks Fusion's ''entire plot''. Being in a coma implies a lack of concentration.
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*** Alternatively, Ridley's previous deaths took place between large spans of time. Other M is right after Super. He's not only supposed to be dead, he came back in record time!
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** Given Adam's characterization, I'd have preferred the latter
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** Samus' reaction to seeing Ridley seems incredibly out of character, until you realize that, at least according to some sources, Ridley never actually ''died'' until Super Metroid, the game before this one. It's not that she's scared of Ridley, it's that she's freaking out because he's ''supposed to be dead''.
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** Given Adam's characterization, I'd have preferred the latter
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You\'re thinking of the wrong things, and getting the times mixed up.
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: She [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] it, and it WAS after Adam sacrificed himself, so she had no reason to follow is order anymore.
: She [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] it, and it WAS after Adam sacrificed himself, so she had no reason to follow is order anymore.
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The authorisation system falls apart as an excuse to withold upgrades the moment Samus collects the only two new abilities in this game and immediatelly activates both upon aquiring them ''without waiting for Adam's permission''.
: She [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] it, and it WAS after Adam sacrificed himself, so she had no reason to follow is order anymore.permission''.
: She [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] it, and it WAS after Adam sacrificed himself, so she had no reason to follow is order anymore.
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: She [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] it, and it WAS after Adam sacrificed himself, so she had no reason to follow is order anymore.
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