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* Ruby's status as the new Fall Maiden while also being a Silver-Eyed Warrior means that she will likely have to spend the rest of her life looking over her shoulder because Salem will never stop trying to hunt her.
* Salem is now actively trying to capture Ruby while also simultaneously searching for the Mask of Nihilus, which was sealed in Beacon's Vault. This means that Nihilus isn't going to stay imprisoned for long.
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* Why did Ozpin pin all the blame for Nihilus' carnage on Adam rather than on Cinder? Adam is a wanted terrorist that the public is familiar with, meaning that people are less likely to question Ozpin's narrative or try digging for more information. Cinder, on the other hand, is so someone the public is completely unfamiliar with and revealing her role as the mastermind behind the Fall of Beacon would only make people curious and start asking questions.
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** While the Infinite Man and the Circle traveled across Remnant helping people, Nihilus had the Temple of Shadows spread death and destruction across all four kingdoms in his name.

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** While the Infinite Man and the Circle traveled across Remnant helping people, Nihilus had the Temple of Shadows spread going around spreading terror and death and destruction across all four kingdoms in his name.
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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would've picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.

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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a [[ManipulativeBastard skilled manipulator. manipulator]]. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] Traya was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would've picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.
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* Adam blinding Weiss by cutting through her eyes makes sense in a twisted way when one recalls how Adam's left eye was permanently damaged from having the SDC's logo branded on his face. Adam is literally taking an eye for an eye.

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* Adam blinding Weiss by cutting through her eyes makes sense in a twisted way when one recalls how Adam's left eye was permanently damaged from having the SDC's logo branded on his face. Adam He is literally taking an eye for an eye.
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* Why does Jaune's family have so many different types of weapons in their home? Jaune's ancestor Alixandre Arc was the top general of Vale's army, so he likely collected various weapons from the battles he fought in as trophies.

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* The story of Darth Nihilus and his relationship with the Temple of Shadows closely mirrors the tale of "The Infinite Man" from ''Literature/RWBYFairyTalesOfRemnant''. Given that the Infinite Man is all but directly stated to be Ozpin, this only further establishes Nihilus as Ozpin's EvilCounterpart.
** Both feature a group of followers being led by an immortal. Ozpin's various incarnations led the Circle while the Mask of Darth Nihlus led the Temple of Shadows.
** Both were initially perceived as gods by their respective followers. But while Ozpin [[StopWorshippingMe didn't want to be worshipped]] and [[AGodIAmNot insisted that he was "just a man"]], Nihilus happily took on a GodGuise and proclaimed to his followers that he was the God of Darkness himself.
** While the Infinite Man and the Circle traveled across Remnant helping people, Nihlus had the Temple of Shadows spread death and destruction across all four kingdoms.

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* The story of Darth Nihilus and his relationship with the Temple of Shadows closely mirrors the tale of "The "[[Characters/RWBYWorldOfRemnant The Infinite Man" Man]]" from ''Literature/RWBYFairyTalesOfRemnant''. Given that the Infinite Man is all but directly stated to be Ozpin, this only further establishes Nihilus as Ozpin's EvilCounterpart.
** Both feature a group of followers cult being led by formed around an immortal. immortal being. The Circle grew around and worshipped two of Ozpin's various incarnations led the Circle while the Temple of Shadows centered around the worship of the Mask of Darth Nihlus led the Temple of Shadows.
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** Both Ozpin and Nihilus were initially perceived as gods by their respective followers. But while Ozpin [[StopWorshippingMe didn't want to be worshipped]] and [[AGodIAmNot repeatedly insisted that he was "just a man"]], Nihilus happily took on a GodGuise and proclaimed to his followers that he was the God of Darkness himself.
** While the Infinite Man and the Circle traveled across Remnant helping people, Nihlus Nihilus had the Temple of Shadows spread death and destruction across all four kingdoms.kingdoms in his name.
** A major plot point of "The Infinite Man" was that Ozpin [[WillNotTellALie never lied]] to his followers in the Circle. [[ManipulativeBastard Nihilus]], on the other hand, told nothing but lies to his cultists in the Temple of Shadows.
** Both organizations were wiped out by a group of warriors. The Circle was wiped out by Salem's followers while the Temple was eradicated by Vale's army.
** Petros Krizoz could be seen as a {{foil}} to the girl in "The Infinite Man". Both first encountered their masters at a young age and become the leaders of their respective cults as they got older. However, while the girl was left as a SoleSurvivor of the Circle's massacre by Salem's forces, Petros was killed alongside everyone else in the Temple of Shadows by Osmund's army. As an old woman, the girl had her faith in the Infinite Man broken, whereas Petros only became more fanatically devoted to Nihilus as an elderly man.
** While Ozpin truly cared about the Circle to the point where he deliberately lost a DuelToTheDeath in hopes of sparing their lives, Nihilus never cared about any of his cultists in the Temple of Shadows and saw them as little more than pawns to be sacrificed.
** Based on his notes at the end of "The Infinite Man", Ozpin is clearly affected by his followers' deaths to this very day. In contrast, Nihilus didn't even blink at the Temple's destruction and treated it as a minor inconvenience.

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* Both Palpatine and Vitiate had the power to enhance a Darksider's Force-sensitivity and used this ability at least once in the ''Legends'' continuity. One may wonder why neither made widespread use of this power. Nihilus's use of the power in the chapter "Legends" provides an explanation. It turns out that using the Force technique carries a serious risk of turning the subject into a [[HumanoidAbomination Force Wound]] similar to Nihilus. This explains why the Sith almost never used this ability, as well as why Nihilus calls it "vile" and only used it as a last resort.

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* The story of Darth Nihilus and his relationship with the Temple of Shadows closely mirrors the tale of "The Infinite Man" from ''Literature/RWBYFairyTalesOfRemnant''. Given that the Infinite Man is all but directly stated to be Ozpin, this only further establishes Nihilus as Ozpin's EvilCounterpart.
** Both feature a group of followers being led by an immortal. Ozpin's various incarnations led the Circle while the Mask of Darth Nihlus led the Temple of Shadows.
** Both were initially perceived as gods by their respective followers. But while Ozpin [[StopWorshippingMe didn't want to be worshipped]] and [[AGodIAmNot insisted that he was "just a man"]], Nihilus happily took on a GodGuise and proclaimed to his followers that he was the God of Darkness himself.
** While the Infinite Man and the Circle traveled across Remnant helping people, Nihlus had the Temple of Shadows spread death and destruction across all four kingdoms.
* Both Palpatine and Vitiate had the power to enhance a Darksider's Force-sensitivity and used this ability at least once in the ''Legends'' continuity. One may wonder why neither made widespread use of this power. Nihilus's use of the power in the chapter "Legends" provides an explanation. It turns out that using the Force technique carries a serious risk of turning the subject into a [[HumanoidAbomination Force Wound]] similar to Nihilus. This explains why the Sith almost never used this ability, as well as why Nihilus calls it "vile" and only used it as a last resort.
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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.

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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would would've picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.
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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would've picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.

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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knew, so it's only natural that he would've would picked up her talent at manipulation along the way.
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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knows about the Sith, so it's only natural that Nihilus would've picked up her skills at manipulation along the way.

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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knows about the Sith, knew, so it's only natural that Nihilus he would've picked up her skills talent at manipulation along the way.

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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knows about the Sith, so it's only natural that Nihilus would've picked up her skills at manipulation along the way.



* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knows about the Sith, so it's only natural that Nihilus would pick up her skills at manipulating everyone around her.



* It's known that both Palpatine and Vitiate had the power to enhance a Darksider's Force-sensitivity. Both make use of this ability at least once in the ''Legends'' continuity. One may wonder why neither made widespread use of this power. They could have easily raised an entire army of Sith overnight. Nihilus's use of the power provides an explanation. It turns out that using the Force technique carries a serious risk of turning the subject into a [[HumanoidAbomination Force Wound]] similar to Nihilus. This explains why the Sith almost never used this ability, as well as why Nihilus calls it "vile" and only used it as a last resort.

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* It's known that both Both Palpatine and Vitiate had the power to enhance a Darksider's Force-sensitivity. Both make use of Force-sensitivity and used this ability at least once in the ''Legends'' continuity. One may wonder why neither made widespread use of this power. They could have easily raised an entire army of Sith overnight. Nihilus's use of the power in the chapter "Legends" provides an explanation. It turns out that using the Force technique carries a serious risk of turning the subject into a [[HumanoidAbomination Force Wound]] similar to Nihilus. This explains why the Sith almost never used this ability, as well as why Nihilus calls it "vile" and only used it as a last resort.
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* It makes sense that Darth Nihilus would turn out to be such a skilled manipulator. After all, [[Characters/KnightsOfTheOldRepublicIITheSithLordsDarthTraya Darth Traya]] was the one who taught him everything he knows about the Sith, so it's only natural that Nihilus would pick up her skills at manipulating everyone around her.
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** Likewise, Jaune's relationship with his friends is in complete tatters. Qrow is dead, Nora is in a coma, Weiss is blinded, and Pyrrha's undergone a LossOfIdentity all because of his actions while being possessed by Nihilus. Even knowing that he was being controlled by Nihilus isn't going to be enough to make his friends forget all the death and destruction his body caused. At best, they'll never trust him again and will see him as a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. At worst, they'll want nothing to do with him. Even his relationship with Pyrrha will never be the same as she is sharing her body with Amber, who has previously expressed a willingness to kill him if it means stopping Nihilus.

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** Likewise, Jaune's relationship with his friends is in complete tatters. Qrow is dead, Nora is in a coma, Weiss is blinded, and Pyrrha's undergone a LossOfIdentity all because of his actions while being possessed by Nihilus. Even knowing that he was being controlled by Nihilus isn't going to be enough to make his friends forget all the death and destruction his body caused. At best, they'll never trust him again and will see him as a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. At worst, they'll want nothing to do with him. Even his relationship with Pyrrha will never be the same as she is sharing her body with Amber, who has previously expressed a willingness to kill him if it means stopping Nihilus.
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* Even if Nihilus is somehow removed from Jaune's body and he is saved, NothingIsTheSameAnymore. There may not be a life for him to return to given that his reputation and relationships are in ruins.
** Cinder uploaded the footage of Jaune putting on Nihilus's mask and killing dozens of students all over the globe. While his teachers and friends may know that he's being possessed, all the rest of the world sees is Jaune transforming into a humanoid Grimm and going on a killing spree while Cinder's voice in the background makes him out to be the Grimm's master. It's almost a guarantee that Jaune will spend the rest of his life being hated and feared everywhere he goes. He won't be able to go out in the public ever again. Then there's also the very real possibility of Jaune having to spend the rest of his life watching his back in case the loved ones of those he killed while under Nihilus's control decide to come after him for revenge.
** Likewise, Jaune's relationship with his friends is in complete tatters. Qrow is dead, Nora is in a coma, Weiss is blinded, and Pyrrha's undergone a LossOfIdentity all because of his actions while being possessed by Nihilus. Even knowing that he was being controlled by Nihilus isn't going to be enough to make his friends forget all the death and destruction his body caused. At best, they'll never trust him again and will see him as a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. At worst, they'll want nothing to do with him. Even his relationship with Pyrrha will never be the same as she is sharing her body with Amber, who has previously expressed a willingness to kill him if it means stopping Nihilus.
** Then there's the possibility of Salem (unaware of Nihilus's existence) targeting Jaune and sending her followers to either abduct him as a potential servant or kill him as a threat to her power.
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* It's known that both Palpatine and Vitiate had the power to enhance a Darksider's Force-sensitivity. Both make use of this ability at least once in the ''Legends'' continuity. One may wonder why neither made widespread use of this power. They could have easily raised an entire army of Sith overnight. Nihilus's use of the power provides an explanation. It turns out that using the Force technique carries a serious risk of turning the subject into a [[HumanoidAbomination Force Wound]] similar to Nihilus. This explains why the Sith almost never used this ability, as well as why Nihilus calls it "vile" and only used it as a last resort.

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* King Osmund ordering the Temple's destruction has a whole new meaning when one remembers how he's one of Ozpin's previous incarnations. The Temple of Shadows assassinated political and military figures from all sides during the Great War. When news reached Osmond of how this cult is causing mayhem by killing all the Kingdoms' leaders at the behest of a "Dark God", he likely came to the conclusion that [[NotMeThisTime Salem was behind the cult's actions]]. After all, assassinating the kingdom's leaders to cause chaos during a war sounds just like her M.O.
* Adam blinding Weiss by cutting through her eyes makes sense in a twisted way when one recalls how Adam's left eye was permanently damaged from having the SDC's logo branded on his face. Adam is literally taking an eye for an eye.
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* Jaune's ancestor Alixandre was one of Vale's greatest generals during the Great War and served Ozpin's incarnation as Vale's king with unwavering loyalty. This may explain why Ozpin was willing to accept Jaune into Beacon Academy even though he presumably was aware that his transcripts were forged.
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* Glynda's being [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness unusually emotional]] after learning that Jaune is possessed by a magic spirit is understandable given that she witnessed the same thing happen to Ozpin. She already had to watch Ozpin, someone she considered a good friend, slowly lose himself as he gradually merged with Ozma. Now she believes that the exact same thing is happening to her apprentice.

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* Glynda's Glynda being [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness unusually emotional]] after learning that Jaune is possessed by a magic spirit is understandable given that she witnessed the same thing happen to Ozpin. She already had to watch Ozpin, someone she considered a good friend, slowly lose himself as he gradually merged with Ozma. Now she believes that the exact same thing is happening to her apprentice.
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* Alpha talking about wanting to erase his memories of his team's encounter with the Mask of Darth Nihilus is actually a ProperlyParanoid decision since it prevents his enemies from learning of the Mask's location in the event that he or one of his crew are captured.
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* Glynda's being [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness unusually emotional]] after learning that Jaune is possessed by a magic spirit is understandable given that she witnessed the same thing happen to Ozpin. She already had to watch Ozpin, someone she considered a good friend, slowly lose himself as he gradually merged with Ozma. Now she believes that the exact same thing is happening to her apprentice.
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* In "Leadership", Jaune mentions how Beacon Academy doesn't have any security cameras installed indoors. This explains how during the Beacon Dance, Cinder was able to enter the ballroom and blend in so easily despite being chased by Ironwood and his security staff after breaking into the CCT Tower. She was never caught on any surveillance because Beacon didn't have any indoor security cameras to begin with.

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* In "Leadership", "[[Recap/JauneArcLordOfHungerLeadership Leadership]]", Jaune mentions how Beacon Academy doesn't have any security cameras installed indoors. This explains how during the Beacon Dance, Cinder was able to enter the ballroom and blend in so easily despite being chased by Ironwood and his security staff after breaking into the CCT Tower. She was never caught on any surveillance because Beacon didn't have any indoor security cameras to begin with.



* "Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. So even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume his friends anyway and he would have just become another monster no different from Nihilus.

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* "Legends" "[[Recap/JauneArcLordOfHungerLegends Legends]]" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. So even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume his friends anyway and he would have just become another monster no different from Nihilus.
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* [[spoiler:"Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. This means that even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume more and more people until he became another Nihilus.]]

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* [[spoiler:"Legends" "Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. This means that So even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume more his friends anyway and more people until he became would have just become another monster no different from Nihilus.]]
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* [[spoiler:"Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. This means that even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume more and more people until he became another Nihilus.]]

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* [[spoiler:"Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. This means that even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume more and more people until he became another Nihilus.]]]]
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* In "Leadership", Jaune mentions how Beacon Academy doesn't have any security cameras installed indoors. This explains how during the Beacon Dance, Cinder was able to enter the ballroom and blend in so easily despite being chased by Ironwood and his security staff after breaking into the CCT Tower. She was never caught on any surveillance because Beacon didn't have any indoor security cameras to begin with.
* The Temple of Shadows being an expy of the Jedi Order makes sense when one considers that their founder was Darth Nihilus, a former Jedi turned Sith. It makes sense that Nihilus would take a group of warrior monks (which the Jedi technically are) and warp it into his own evil version of the Jedi.

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* ''How did a terentatek get on Remnant?'' More importantly, if there's one hibernating on Remnant, could there be more? For all we know, there are dozens of terentateks out there hibernating underground, waiting to be awoken. And because they're underground, a person could be [[ParanoiaFuel standing right on top of them without even realizing it.]]
* It's known that Nihilus needs to constantly feed on Force energy otherwise his body will fade away and this weakness seems to carry over into the people he choses as his hosts. What happens if he were to possess Salem with her CompleteImmortality? Since Salem regenerates from any injury, it's logical to assume that Nihilus wouldn't need to worry about maintaining a physical form or having his new body fade away.
* The only silver lining about Darth Nihilus being stranded on Remnant is that he has no way of returning to wreak havoc on the greater galaxy. Remnant doesn't possess space technology and Dust stops working once it exits the atmosphere. However, in ''KOTOR II'', he was able to use the Force to make the ''Ravager'', a literal shipwreck, move through space. It's not implausible to imagine that he could do the same with anything Remnant builds.
** Even exiting Remnant's atmosphere wouldn't likely be all that difficult for him. All he needs is a ship capable of ''reaching'' the atmosphere (which the ''World of Remnant'' shorts show exist), then he can use the Force to make the ship continue flying just like he did with the previously-mentioned ''Ravager''.
* [[spoiler:"Legends" reveals that Jaune's HorrorHunger wasn't because of Nihilus's possession, but rather due to ancient Sith magic that Nihilus used to transform Jaune into a living wound in the Force. This means that even if Jaune managed to resist Nihilus's influence, his growing hunger for LifeEnergy would eventually drive him to consume more and more people until he became another Nihilus.]]

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