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* There is something creepily [[StalkerWithACrush stalker-like]] in It's interactions with [[spoiler:Bill]]. It's attempted manipulation to allow the others to go free if [[spoiler:they leave and let It take Bill]]. Because it does not seem like [[spoiler:Bill]] was of particular interest to It over any of the other Losers. However, then you remember It's fixation when [[spoiler:trying to talk Georgie into bringing Bill to It with bribes of popcorn, trying to lure Bill to the sewers through Georgie in the basement, the [[RageBreakingPoint terrifying rage]] when Bill tells Richie that It's illusions aren't real.]] It was a fixation that started long before It even met [[spoiler:Bill]], and as with the above, when It shows interest above just a food-source, it does not end well.

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* There is something creepily [[StalkerWithACrush stalker-like]] in It's IT's interactions with [[spoiler:Bill]]. It's IT's attempted manipulation to allow the others to go free if [[spoiler:they leave and let It IT take Bill]]. Because it IT does not seem like [[spoiler:Bill]] was of particular interest to It IT over any of the other Losers. However, then you remember It's IT's fixation when [[spoiler:trying to talk Georgie into bringing Bill to It IT with bribes of popcorn, trying to lure Bill to the sewers through Georgie in the basement, the [[RageBreakingPoint terrifying rage]] when Bill tells Richie that It's IT's illusions aren't real.]] It was a fixation that started long before It IT even met [[spoiler:Bill]], and as with the above, when It IT shows interest above just a food-source, it does not end well.



* Similar to the books it is usually taken for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it could [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]].
** Interestingly, It manages to [[spoiler:take Eddie's form for a short time in the Neibolt house]] - but only during a few minutes when the real person is knocked out. Maybe It can morph into anyone it's been in contact with, so long as they're unconscious at the time. (Which means [[spoiler:Alvin Marsh]] wasn't necessarily dead during the battle in Its lair.)

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* Similar to the books it is usually taken for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It IT takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's IT's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it could [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]].
** Interestingly, It IT manages to [[spoiler:take Eddie's form for a short time in the Neibolt house]] - but only during a few minutes when the real person is knocked out. Maybe It IT can morph into anyone it's been in contact with, so long as they're unconscious at the time. (Which means [[spoiler:Alvin Marsh]] wasn't necessarily dead during the battle in Its IT's lair.)
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* The Rock War is scored by Anthrax, and one of Bowers' gang is seen wearing an Anthrax shirt. The members of Anthrax are huge StephenKing fans, basing at least two of their songs off his book ("Among The Living" is inspired by TheStand and "Skeletons In The Closet" is inspired by AptPupil). [[https://twitter.com/Anthrax/status/907013601579302912 Guitarist/lyricist Scott Ian was thrilled with the shout-out]].

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* The Rock War is scored by Anthrax, and one of Bowers' gang is seen wearing an Anthrax shirt. The members of Anthrax are huge StephenKing Creator/StephenKing fans, basing at least two of their songs off his book ("Among The Living" is inspired by TheStand and "Skeletons In The Closet" is inspired by AptPupil). [[https://twitter.com/Anthrax/status/907013601579302912 Guitarist/lyricist Scott Ian was thrilled with the shout-out]].



** Also note that when Beverly initially returns home after first meeting The Losers, you can hear that the television in the living room is playing the same Romper Room-esque TV show that It later uses [[spoiler:to get Henry to kill his father. Was It influencing Beverly's father through the show, or did It have plans to coerce Beverly into patricide as well?]]

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** Also note that when Beverly initially returns home after first meeting The Losers, you can hear that the television in the living room is playing the same Romper Room-esque ''Series/RomperRoom''-esque TV show that It later uses [[spoiler:to get Henry to kill his father. Was It influencing Beverly's father through the show, or did It have plans to coerce Beverly into patricide as well?]]
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** In the novel, it was more a matter of negotiation with his mother, who had just tried to cut him off from his friends when it mattered the most. "Okay, Mom, I will accept this ball and chain that you want me to wear forever if you let me have my friends back right now. Otherwise, we're through." Really sad and surprisingly mature of him. In the movie, he rejects it altogether. CMOA, but this is going to be interesting (or maybe very difficult) for the sequel, because the fact that the Losers got artificially stuck in kidhood for 27 years (same fears, same problems, no kids of their own) was part of why they were able to remember and deal with Pennywise, not just accept it like every other Derry adult, and it was still way harder for them. If they all grow up like normal, It may be able to kill/possess them at will. Empowerment for Eddie now, fridge horror later.
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* After Pennywise's defeat, his victim's bodies '''slowly''' float down to the ground... hinting that his power is only diminished, not destroyed.
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** [[spoiler: It's confirmed Henry killed them in a deleted scene.]]
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* During the storm drain sequence, when Georgie tells Pennywise he's not supposed to talk to strangers, which Pennywise resolves by giving Georgie his name and remarking "now we aren't strangers." [[ExactWords He never said he and Georgie were friends]]...
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* When Bill and Stan find themselves faced with three doors, the doors read "SCARY" "REALLY SCARY" AND "[[SchmuckBait NOT SCARY AT ALL]]." At first it seems like blatant lies, considering they find a dismembered corpse behind the third mentioned door. However, when Bill gets the idea that the thing behind the door isn't real, the corpse disappears and they're able to leave unmolested. [[FromACertainPointOfView Pennywise wasn't lying]].
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** If you look closer, you can tell it is a different woman, but the idea that said grinning woman is in fact being influenced by IT, especially due to how MoodWhiplash her personality is, since she is minding her business one minute, wickedly smiling the next and the back to looking at books.
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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk grin]] on her face as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is influencing her and doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.

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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk grin]] on her face as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly especially unnerving. This is particularly stands out because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is influencing her and doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.

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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Huggins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]

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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Huggins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]knife]]...
** In an earlier scene, one of the kids mentions that it was Higgins' car, so this theory is a lot more plausible.
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* Why is Eddie walking home when he passes Neibolt Street when he's seen riding a bike in other scenes? Of course his mother wouldn't approve of him having one.
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* A common criticism of the movie is that the Neibolt House is too much of a stereotypical haunted house. But what if it's ''supposed'' to be? It feeds on fear, and the kids all express an uneasiness about the house, even when they're merely passing by it.
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* Similar to the books it is usually taken for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it could [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]].

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* Similar to the books it is usually taken for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it could [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]].that]].
** Interestingly, It manages to [[spoiler:take Eddie's form for a short time in the Neibolt house]] - but only during a few minutes when the real person is knocked out. Maybe It can morph into anyone it's been in contact with, so long as they're unconscious at the time. (Which means [[spoiler:Alvin Marsh]] wasn't necessarily dead during the battle in Its lair.)
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* When Pennywise shows [[spoiler: Beverly the Deadlights]], several screaming voices can be heard as as she gazes into it. Possibly implying that Pennywise doesn't just eat his victim's bodies, but their souls as well.
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** Not to mention that both [[spoiler:Henry and Bev]] make sense for Pennywise to go after as they're both [[spoiler:abuse victims. As in, the sorts of people who live in a near-constant state of fear.]]
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* The house on Neibolt Street is filled with cobwebs. What's [[GiantSpider Pennywise's true form?]]
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* In all iterations of IT, Pennywise is indicated to awaken only ever 27 years. The [[{{Film/It1990}} original mini-series]] came out in 1990. The film is out in 2017. Do the math...

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* In all iterations of IT, Pennywise is indicated to awaken only ever every 27 years. The [[{{Film/It1990}} original mini-series]] came out in 1990. The film is out in 2017. Do the math...

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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Higgins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]

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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Higgins Huggins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]]]
** Not only that, but his face is [[spoiler:covered in way more blood during his fight with Mike compared to when he kills his own father. "Where did all this blood come from?", you might ask... And where are Victor and Belch?]]
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* There is something creepily [[StalkerWithACrush stalker-like]] in It's interactions with [[spoiler:Bill]]. It's attempted manipulation to allow the others to go free if [[spoiler:they leave and let It take Bill]]. Because it does not seem like [[spoiler:Bill]] was of particular interest to It over any of the other Losers. However, then you remember It's fixation when [[spoiler:trying to talk Georgie into bringing Bill to It with bribes of popcorn, trying to lure Bill to the sewers through Georgie in the basement, the [[RageBreakingPoint terrifying rage]] when Bill tells Richie that It's illusions aren't real.]] It was a fixation that started long before It even met [[spoiler:Bill]], and as with the above, when It shows interest above just a food-source, it does not end well.
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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is influencing her and doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.

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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk grin grin]] on her face]] face as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is influencing her and doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.
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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk slasher grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.

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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk slasher grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is influencing her and doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.
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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk slasher grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.

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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librian librarian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk slasher grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.
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** Unfortunately, I don't think the librian is really so non-hostile. I found the scene where Ben is in the library before the balloon floats by particularly creepy with the librarian [[MeaningfulBackgroundEvent lurking in the background and slowly moving closer to Ben each time she is on screen]] with a truly terrifying [[PsychoticSmirk slasher grin on her face]] as Ben comes across the photographs of the Ironworks explosion to be particularly unnerving. This is particularly because she does help Ben previously. It almost looks like It is doing a [[EvilGloating little subtle showing off]] to make Ben even more on edge.
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* Both brilliance and horror: At first, it seemed strange to gloss over how Bev [[spoiler:leaves her father bleeding on the floor from her self-defense, only to be sent away to other family without much onscreen trouble, and no indication of an investigation.]] Why's that? Because, even though IT is [[spoiler: forced into hibernation, IT's influence is still causing the town's adults to overlook any concerns, foreshadowing that IT is still alive and will return.]]

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* Both brilliance and horror: At first, it seemed strange to gloss over how Bev [[spoiler:leaves her father bleeding on the floor from her self-defense, only to be sent away to other family without much onscreen trouble, and no indication of an investigation.]] Why's that? Because, even though IT is [[spoiler: forced into hibernation, IT's influence is still causing the town's adults to overlook any concerns, foreshadowing that IT is still alive and will return.]]]]
* Similar to the books it is usually taken for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it could [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]].

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** This troper came to a different realisation about the librarian lady. She is seen in previous shots standing behind Ben, looking at him and grinning, shows up right after the balloon pops and later shows up right after [[spoiler:Ben was chased by the headless man/mummy thing]]. Also - the librarian lady seemed to be the only normal adult in a town, where every adult is messed up. [[spoiler: Librarian lady was IT disguised and messing with Ben]]
** Actually that was a different library lady, there were two. The bigger one with the white dress on and the one you're talking about with the flowered dress so it wasn't the same person.



** This troper also had this in mind as well, considering that there's a possibility that IT [[spoiler:used its Deadlights to paralyze]] Georgie and slowly eat him, all while using his still form as a way to torment Bill. On the other hand, there's a possibility [[spoiler:he had long eaten Georgie]].

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** This troper also had this in mind as well, considering that there's a possibility that It's possible IT [[spoiler:used its Deadlights to paralyze]] Georgie and slowly eat him, all while using his still form as a way to torment Bill. On the other hand, there's a possibility [[spoiler:he had long eaten Georgie]].
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** Actually that was a different library lady, there where two. The bigger one with the white dress on and the one you're talking about with the flowered dress so it wasn't the same person.

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** Actually that was a different library lady, there where were two. The bigger one with the white dress on and the one you're talking about with the flowered dress so it wasn't the same person.



** To add to the post in regards to [[spoiler: Bill shooting IT in Georgie's form]], there's another way Bill knew [[spoiler: it wasn't Georgie. The last talk the two had were about boats, and Bill told Georgie boats are called by female pronouns. Since IT in Georgie's form didn't know this, this allowed Bill to realize this wasn't his brother, but IT preying on his guilt]].

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** To add to the post in regards to [[spoiler: Bill [[spoiler:Bill shooting IT in Georgie's form]], there's another way Bill knew [[spoiler: it [[spoiler:it wasn't Georgie. The last talk the two had were about boats, and Bill told Georgie boats are called by female pronouns. Since IT in Georgie's form didn't know this, this allowed Bill to realize this wasn't his brother, but IT preying on his guilt]].



* [[Film/{{Mama}} Edith's]] "[[ShoutOut cameo appearance]]" as the Flute Lady makes sense if you consider the fact that Mama is a kind of {{Foil}} for Pennywise. Mama wants to [[spoiler: protect her children]] while Pennywise just wants to feed on kids. Mama [[spoiler: started out human and became an EldritchAbomination while Pennywise was never human to begin with.]] Finally, Pennywise is methodical in his methods of frightening children while Mama does it [[spoiler: unintentionally]].

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* [[Film/{{Mama}} Edith's]] "[[ShoutOut cameo appearance]]" as the Flute Lady makes sense if you consider the fact that Mama is a kind of {{Foil}} for Pennywise. Mama wants to [[spoiler: protect [[spoiler:protect her children]] while Pennywise just wants to feed on kids. Mama [[spoiler: started [[spoiler:started out human and became an EldritchAbomination while Pennywise was never human to begin with.]] Finally, Pennywise is methodical in his methods of frightening children while Mama does it [[spoiler: unintentionally]].[[spoiler:unintentionally]].
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** Actually that was a different library lady, there where two. The bigger one with the white dress on and the one you're talking about with the flowered dress so it wasn't the same person.
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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Higgins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]

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* When we see Henry and his goons at the beginning of the movie, Belch Higgins is the one driving the car. It's safe to assume that it's Belch's car, right? So why was Henry driving it at the end? [[KilledOffScreen Both Belch and Victor were there when Henry got his knife...]]
* Both brilliance and horror: At first, it seemed strange to gloss over how Bev [[spoiler:leaves her father bleeding on the floor from her self-defense, only to be sent away to other family without much onscreen trouble, and no indication of an investigation.]] Why's that? Because, even though IT is [[spoiler: forced into hibernation, IT's influence is still causing the town's adults to overlook any concerns, foreshadowing that IT is still alive and will return.
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* Stan's [[spoiler:attack and mutilation due to the flute player would give him even more reason to [[DrivenToSuicide kill himself]] in Part Two. He wouldn't want to suffer through something like that again]].

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* Stan's [[spoiler:attack and mutilation due to from the flute player player]] would give him even more reason to [[DrivenToSuicide kill himself]] in Part Two. He wouldn't want to suffer through something like that again]].again.
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** Also note that when Beverly initially returns home after first meeting The Losers, you can hear that the television in the living room is playing the same Romper Room-esque TV show that It later uses [[spoiler:to get Henry to kill his father. Was It influencing Beverly's father through the show, or did It have plans to coerce Beverly into patricide as well?]]

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