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** ...[[HumansAreBastards Humans?]]
** The book makes it pretty clear that IT's true form is not really a spider, that's just the closest approximation their human minds could come to. Though you're probably right about the "why", spiders are terrifying.
** Last time I checked, spiders were helpful pest controllers and not evil eldritch abominations. Poor arthropods...
*** That doesn't change the fact that a huge percentage of the human population are terrified of them.
*** Which is probably the reason It's closest approximation is a spider - it's probably one of the most common things for humans to have a fear of, legitimately or not. The same could be said for clowns, too.
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* Patrick Hockstetter's story is uniquely horrible. For everybody else, It has to assume some kind of alternate form to be the thing they fear most, but what Patrick fears ''is what It is all about''. He's afraid of being reduced, of not being the only real being in the world; the leeches that attack him aren't scary because they're gross, they're scary because they're feeding on him, stealing away his reality and consuming it for their own sustenance, and he's one of the rare few victims who actually stays alive long enough to regain consciousness while being eaten. You might not exactly feel ''sorry'' for him because of what a godawful little bastard he was (and for It to kill him probably saved New England a whole lot of trouble down the line), but Its very existence was Patrick's greatest fear and he ran afoul of It before he'd even made it out of middle school.
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** Even more horror sets in if you take this to its logical conclusion, IT is not IT, IT is the Deadlights, if Rose Madder is another part of IT, that means that they are both akin to something similar to "fingers and mouths" for the Deadlights, how many more "spiders" live in the world? that means the Losers Club only defeated possibly a tiny, tiny portion of the Deadlights (maybe even just giving the EldritchAbomination equivalant it a hangnail).
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** This is actually addressed in the book. IT chooses to feed on children because they tend to have more definitive fears. Adults have fears as well, but tend to be more abstract, like not paying the bills, or getting fired from work, etc. In a sense, though IT could be feeding off of the latent fear of the adults. After all, IT is killing their children. [[AdultFear The fear that parents in Derry must have, quiet and lingering, as children begin disappearing or dying.]]

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** This is actually addressed in the book. IT chooses to feed on children because they tend to have more definitive fears. Adults have fears as well, but tend to be more abstract, like not paying the bills, or getting fired from work, etc. In a sense, though IT could be feeding off of the latent fear of the adults. After all, IT is killing their children. [[AdultFear The fear that parents in Derry must have, quiet and lingering, as children begin disappearing or dying.]]]]
** It also doesn't need to be their GREATEST fear, just A fear. It appears to many of them as several things- for Richie alone, It disguises Itself as a werewolf, crawling eye, Paul Bunyan statue, and of course It's usual clown costume. It appears to Eddie Corcoran as his dead brother, but then as the Creature from the Black Lagoon- which Eddie doesn't believe in. Even as he's being killed, he's still looking for a zipper in a costume, because he doesn't believe it's really the Creature. Anything that freaks you out would work.
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** Now is probably just the time that Maturin (the Turtle) got around to it. Until 1715, It was more or less hibernating under the ground waiting for humans to get there. That's when it started killing people, so it's only been 200-some years since then, in-universe. It was already established that the universe was just the result of Maturing getting sick and throwing up; it's that inconsequential to Him. Of course it takes Him that long to do anything about It.
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** [[Literature/{{Dreamcatcher}} PENNYWISE LIVES]]
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* Bill's "magic stones" story in the miniseries. "They released the magic stones, defeated the dragon, and ran out of the cave". Eerily similar to how the movie ends - except the "magic stones" are silver earrings and the dragon is a GiantSpider, of course.
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* It is usually taken as a given that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it may [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]]. "We all float down here" after all.

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* It is usually taken as a given for granted by both the characters and the audience that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it may [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]]. "We all float down here" after all.
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* The titular character of RoseMadder was also a giant spider behind the illusion of a human form. And She also had a child. Is this creature It reaching out from the deadlights? Or is It not the only one of It's kind in the universe, and just the only one that fell to Earth?

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* The titular character of RoseMadder ''Literature/RoseMadder'' was also a giant spider behind the illusion of a human form. And She also had a child. Is this creature It reaching out from the deadlights? Or is It not the only one of It's kind in the universe, and just the only one that fell to Earth?
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* It is usually taken as a given that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of it's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that may [[AssimilationPlot be more than just that]]. "We all float down here" after all.

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* It is usually taken as a given that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of it's It's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that it may [[AssimilationPlot [[TheAssimilator be more than just that]]. "We all float down here" after all.
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* It is usually taken as a given that whenever It takes on the semblance of a former victim, or victims, that it is just another one of it's disguises. What is never addressed is the implication that may [[AssimilationPlot be more than just that]]. "We all float down here" after all.
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* It constantly talks about how people will float down here. When people die, their bodies become bloated with rotting gasses, causing them to float when in water. It's whole spiel about floating and balloons is a sick joke noting the way that dead people sort of become balloons filled with gas. It speaks volumes about how he sees humans as just objects defined by their weakness and mortality and inevitable fate.
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** Well, to be fair, 'Georgie' is missing an arm. meaning It isn't 'Human-Georgie' but 'Ghost-Georgie' (That bill was earlier afraid he might comes to kill him.) ... How do you kill a ghost ?
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** FalseReassurance You are too much pessimist. Predators don't kill their food source. Humans will continue to live like always ...but in a world crimes, rapes, incests, murders, tortures are ordinary and common acts not worse than saying the F-word. [[FalseReassurance See, humanity won't die.]]

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* The titular character of RoseMadder was also a giant spider behind the illusion of a human form. And She also had a child. Is this creature It reaching out from the deadlights? Or is It not the only one of It's kind in the universe, and just the only one that fell to Earth?
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* The release of the new feature film is 27 years after the made-for-t.v. movie, right in line with It's cycle of hibernation.
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** What's more, he was saying he wanted to see if she was "intact" when he was chasing her. If he had caught her, [[RapeByProxy would it have used Beverly's father as an instrument to rape her before killing her?]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Or, would IT have been satisfied that the]] [[ParentalIncest]] would have [[BrokenBird broken her enough that she wouldn't be a threat to IT any longer?]]

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** What's more, he was saying he wanted to see if she was "intact" when he was chasing her. If he had caught her, [[RapeByProxy would it have used Beverly's father as an instrument to rape her before killing her?]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Or, would IT have been satisfied that the]] [[ParentalIncest]] ParentalIncest would have [[BrokenBird broken her enough that she wouldn't be a threat to IT any longer?]]

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** What's more, he was saying he wanted to see if she was "intact" when he was chasing her. If he had caught her, [[ThirdPartyRape would it have used Beverly's father as an instrument to rape her before killing her?]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Or, would IT have been satisfied that the]] [[ParentalIncest]] would have [[BrokenBird broken her enough that she wouldn't be a threat to IT any longer?]]

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** What's more, he was saying he wanted to see if she was "intact" when he was chasing her. If he had caught her, [[ThirdPartyRape [[RapeByProxy would it have used Beverly's father as an instrument to rape her before killing her?]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Or, would IT have been satisfied that the]] [[ParentalIncest]] would have [[BrokenBird broken her enough that she wouldn't be a threat to IT any longer?]]

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* Richie Tozier actually seems to serve a very useful function for The Loser's Club. As a child, he tends to be the one to ModeLock IT whenever IT appears. It was he who was convinced that IT was the Teenaged Werewolf, and he who saw IT as TheCrawlingEye. IT was locked into the form, and vulnerability, that Richie chose for IT. And as an adult, he was still the most childlike of the Loser's Club, meaning that his immaturity allowed him to fight IT in the Ritual of Chud when Bill couldn't. Or, as Richie so eloquently put it when IT railed at him that the Losers were all too old to defeat IT, "Hey bitch, you're never too old to rock and roll."



** What's more, he was saying he wanted to see if she was "intact" when he was chasing her. If he had caught her, [[ThirdPartyRape would it have used Beverly's father as an instrument to rape her before killing her?]] [[FateWorseThanDeath Or, would IT have been satisfied that the]] [[ParentalIncest]] would have [[BrokenBird broken her enough that she wouldn't be a threat to IT any longer?]]




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* The Losers still had troubles after defeating IT as children. We know that Ben eventually managed to win his battle with obesity, but Beverly had been the subject of her father's [[IncestSquick interest]] for some time, and was actively trying to escape him when IT was pulling his strings the day of that last childhood battle with IT.



* It works by attacking people in the form of whatever it is that they fear most. But what happens when someone has a more abstract fear, like drowning, heights, or being buried alive? What form would It take then?

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* It works by attacking people in the form of whatever it is that they fear most. But what happens when someone has a more abstract fear, like drowning, heights, or being buried alive? What form would It take then?then?
** This is actually addressed in the book. IT chooses to feed on children because they tend to have more definitive fears. Adults have fears as well, but tend to be more abstract, like not paying the bills, or getting fired from work, etc. In a sense, though IT could be feeding off of the latent fear of the adults. After all, IT is killing their children. [[AdultFear The fear that parents in Derry must have, quiet and lingering, as children begin disappearing or dying.]]
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* Beverly, at around eleven years old, is penetrated by six boys one after another in a row in a sewer. At eleven. How incredibly painful that much have been by the end.

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* Beverly, at around eleven years old, is penetrated by six boys one after another in a row in a sewer. At eleven. How incredibly painful that much must have been by the end.
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* Beverly deduces that the whole town of Derry knows something is amiss because an old man wouldn't help her. Note that this is only an issue with the movie.

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* Beverly deduces that the whole town of Derry knows something is amiss because an old man wouldn't help her. Note that this is only an issue with the movie.movie.
* It works by attacking people in the form of whatever it is that they fear most. But what happens when someone has a more abstract fear, like drowning, heights, or being buried alive? What form would It take then?
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* Beverly deduces that the whole town of Derry knows something is amiss because an old man wouldn't help her. Note that this is only an issue with the movie.

[[WMG: The [[Film/{{It}} silent film from 1927,]] staring Clara Bow.]]
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** Why the RipTailoring worked so well for Betty: she sells clothing for a living. Granted, this doesn't automatically mean she knows anything about making clothes, but it sure isn't a stretch that the same girl who sells dresses can also make them.
** The implied LastMinuteHookup between Adela and Monty might seem contrived; but when you consider their personalities, it's actually the perfect setup to the most cliched kind of couple in old-school comedy: a comically bumbling husband and a non-nonsense wife. They'll probably get married and have a relationship much like [[TheHoneymooners Ralph and Alice Kramden.]]
** Why flirtatious, outgoing Betty is so paranoid about Cyrus moving too fast with her: look what happened to her friend Molly.
** Speaking of Molly, it's not hard to see how a young woman could end up in her position in the TheRoaringTwenties. Molly was likely an outgoing flapper just like Betty before the baby came along. And had not Molly gotten knocked up first, Betty wouldn't be as cautious about going to far as she is.
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** Molly's son is a baby in the 1920s. He's exactly the right age to get drafted into WWII.
** What will TheGreatDepression be like for a single mother and her son? For that matter, will Cyrus (or Monty) financially survive Black Tuesday?

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* Beverly deduces that the whole town of Derry knows something is amiss because an old man wouldn't help her. Note that this is only an issue with the movie.

[[WMG: The [[Film/{{It}} silent film from 1927,]] staring Clara Bow.]]
* FridgeBrilliance:
** Why the RipTailoring worked so well for Betty: she sells clothing for a living. Granted, this doesn't automatically mean she knows anything about making clothes, but it sure isn't a stretch that the same girl who sells dresses can also make them.
** The implied LastMinuteHookup between Adela and Monty might seem contrived; but when you consider their personalities, it's actually the perfect setup to the most cliched kind of couple in old-school comedy: a comically bumbling husband and a non-nonsense wife. They'll probably get married and have a relationship much like [[TheHoneymooners Ralph and Alice Kramden.]]
** Why flirtatious, outgoing Betty is so paranoid about Cyrus moving too fast with her: look what happened to her friend Molly.
** Speaking of Molly, it's not hard to see how a young woman could end up in her position in the TheRoaringTwenties. Molly was likely an outgoing flapper just like Betty before the baby came along. And had not Molly gotten knocked up first, Betty wouldn't be as cautious about going to far as she is.
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** Molly's son is a baby in the 1920s. He's exactly the right age to get drafted into WWII.
** What will TheGreatDepression be like for a single mother and her son? For that matter, will Cyrus (or Monty) financially survive Black Tuesday?
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* IT has whatever vulnerabilities of its form, most notably with the werewolf retaining its weakness for silver. Presumably, then, IT's particularly vulnerable when IT impersonates a mere human. This is one of the reasons IT keeps reverting to Pennywise's clothes when someone realizes IT's ruses -- once people realize IT's IT, IT no longer has human vulnerability, even when IT has a human's shape.





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\n* When IT takes Georgie's appearance, IT's locked into that form, more vulnerable than any others IT takes over the course of the book. This is itself a taunt on Bill, though, since Bill would have to kill helpless Georgie all over again to take advantage of IT's weakness.
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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, '''He's still in the form of a clown'''. We all expect clowns (at least, the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs]]) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[ObfuscatingStupidity His wacky, stupid antics are actually to lure those who are entertained by his antics as well as torture those scared of clowns]].

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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, '''He's still in the form of a clown'''. We all expect clowns (at least, the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs]]) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' '''children''' and '''People '''people who fears fear clowns'''. Chances are, [[ObfuscatingStupidity His his wacky, stupid idiotic antics are actually to lure those who are entertained by his antics as well as torture those scared of clowns]].
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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, ''''He's still a clown'''. We all expect clowns to(at least the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs]]) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[FauxAffablyEvil he's doing it to lure children in and freak out people.]]

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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, ''''He's '''He's still in the form of a clown'''. We all expect clowns to(at least (at least, the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs]]) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[FauxAffablyEvil he's doing it [[ObfuscatingStupidity His wacky, stupid antics are actually to lure children in and freak out people.]]those who are entertained by his antics as well as torture those scared of clowns]].
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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, ''''He's still a clown'''. We all expect clowns to(at least the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[FauxAffablyEvil he's doing it to lure children in and freak out people.]]

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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, ''''He's still a clown'''. We all expect clowns to(at least the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs) maniacs]]) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[FauxAffablyEvil he's doing it to lure children in and freak out people.]]
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* Why does Pennywise, a homicidal MonsterClown, act like such a goofball? Simple, even though he's a demonic beast, ''''He's still a clown'''. We all expect clowns to(at least the ones that aren't [[MonsterClown homicidal maniacs) to be wacky, zany goofballs. Let's also not forget that he almost always targets '''childern''' and '''People who fears clowns'''. Chances are, [[FauxAffablyEvil he's doing it to lure children in and freak out people.]]
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* Derry is not a real town in Maine. However, Belfast, Bangor and Newry are - looks like StephenKing was just continuing the trend of naming Maine towns after Northern Irish ones!

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* Derry is not a real town in Maine. However, Belfast, Bangor and Newry are - looks like StephenKing Stephen King was just continuing the trend of naming Maine towns after Northern Irish ones!

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