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* Something that makes you become suicidal upon seeing it? That sounds rather familar, more accurately it sounds rather... ''Lovecraftian''...
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Removing this too—again, movie has not really indicated that "moving past trauma" is the way to survive the creatures without turning into a murdering madman
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** Except if these humans learn to be authentic and instead of rejecting their trauma, they start to feel and resolve them in the process.
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This feels like a reach. The truth about oneself will ALWAYS lead to suicide or madness? Every time? Our true self looks like eldritch abominations (as drawn by Gary)? I think if the movie had portrayed the monsters as anything other than "insta-death horror" (like, maybe have people who can see them and be at peace with it eventually) this would have a point, but it doesn't
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* The creatures can be a metaphor for the truth about oneself. When people look at them they see their true self and all their trauma reflected in them. In another words, the truth is so devastating, that they commit suicide to not admit to it or even allow to expand their perception of their reality.
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* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
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* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.stretch.
** Well they would have fed the birds, but that doesn't explain why they didn't drown when the kids went into the water.
** Well they would have fed the birds, but that doesn't explain why they didn't drown when the kids went into the water.
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* Why do they still have guide dogs in the future? They typically only last for 6-7 years, and it's not like anyone would be training them after the apocalypse. The two seen at the end of the movie must have been trained right before the apocalypse, and even then they would be pretty old by dog standards.
** On the contrary, a seeing-eye dog would be an incredibly valued companion in a world where most humans can't safely see the world around them. Training new seeing-eye dogs would be a major benefit to a community. From what we see, humans are the only animals we know of that are affected.
*** The question posed by the OP is not about why people would use guide dogs; rather, they are questioning how anyone could possibly train them in the first place when they (the people) are unable to see.
*** It's not a big stretch to imagine someone there with sight has a degree of familiarity with training guide dogs. A member of staff, a friend of a staffer or student, a professional colleague who realized it would be either a good place to seek a community or felt obliged to help. Or even someone familiar with dog handling in general, and learning the specifics from information in the school and people who are taking refuge there. We've used dogs this way for hundreds of years, so even if modern training techniques aren't something we can continue we can probably get them trained well enough.
** Companionship is valuable in a world where the human population is dwindling quickly and the remaining humans are isolated from each other in order to survive.
* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
* Why do they still have guide dogs in the future? They typically only last for 6-7 years, and it's not like anyone would be training them after the apocalypse. The two seen at the end of the movie must have been trained right before the apocalypse, and even then they would be pretty old by dog standards.
** On the contrary, a seeing-eye dog would be an incredibly valued companion in a world where most humans can't safely see the world around them. Training new seeing-eye dogs would be a major benefit to a community. From what we see, humans are the only animals we know of that are affected.
*** The question posed by the OP is not about why people would use guide dogs; rather, they are questioning how anyone could possibly train them in the first place when they (the people) are unable to see.
*** It's not a big stretch to imagine someone there with sight has a degree of familiarity with training guide dogs. A member of staff, a friend of a staffer or student, a professional colleague who realized it would be either a good place to seek a community or felt obliged to help. Or even someone familiar with dog handling in general, and learning the specifics from information in the school and people who are taking refuge there. We've used dogs this way for hundreds of years, so even if modern training techniques aren't something we can continue we can probably get them trained well enough.
** Companionship is valuable in a world where the human population is dwindling quickly and the remaining humans are isolated from each other in order to survive.
* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
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* What happens when the creatures can't get to any more seeing victims? Would they launch a second wave?
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* What happens when the creatures can't get to any more seeing victims? Would they launch a second wave?wave?
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* Why do they still have guide dogs in the future? They typically only last for 6-7 years, and it's not like anyone would be training them after the apocalypse. The two seen at the end of the movie must have been trained right before the apocalypse, and even then they would be pretty old by dog standards.
** On the contrary, a seeing-eye dog would be an incredibly valued companion in a world where most humans can't safely see the world around them. Training new seeing-eye dogs would be a major benefit to a community. From what we see, humans are the only animals we know of that are affected.
*** The question posed by the OP is not about why people would use guide dogs; rather, they are questioning how anyone could possibly train them in the first place when they (the people) are unable to see.
*** It's not a big stretch to imagine someone there with sight has a degree of familiarity with training guide dogs. A member of staff, a friend of a staffer or student, a professional colleague who realized it would be either a good place to seek a community or felt obliged to help. Or even someone familiar with dog handling in general, and learning the specifics from information in the school and people who are taking refuge there. We've used dogs this way for hundreds of years, so even if modern training techniques aren't something we can continue we can probably get them trained well enough.
** Companionship is valuable in a world where the human population is dwindling quickly and the remaining humans are isolated from each other in order to survive.
* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
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* Why do they still have guide dogs in the future? They typically only last for 6-7 years, and it's not like anyone would be training them after the apocalypse. The two seen at the end of the movie must have been trained right before the apocalypse, and even then they would be pretty old by dog standards.
** On the contrary, a seeing-eye dog would be an incredibly valued companion in a world where most humans can't safely see the world around them. Training new seeing-eye dogs would be a major benefit to a community. From what we see, humans are the only animals we know of that are affected.
*** The question posed by the OP is not about why people would use guide dogs; rather, they are questioning how anyone could possibly train them in the first place when they (the people) are unable to see.
*** It's not a big stretch to imagine someone there with sight has a degree of familiarity with training guide dogs. A member of staff, a friend of a staffer or student, a professional colleague who realized it would be either a good place to seek a community or felt obliged to help. Or even someone familiar with dog handling in general, and learning the specifics from information in the school and people who are taking refuge there. We've used dogs this way for hundreds of years, so even if modern training techniques aren't something we can continue we can probably get them trained well enough.
** Companionship is valuable in a world where the human population is dwindling quickly and the remaining humans are isolated from each other in order to survive.
* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
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* How are those birds alive? First of all, I doubt the store left them days' worth of bird food so surviving to be found is a stretch. Secondly, birds can live 1-3 days without food, making it through that river journey none the worse for the wear is a huge stretch.
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* Malorie saw the monsters and the ending is her fantasy. Malorie's whole character arc centers around her inability to connect with people and truly care about others. For Malorie, the most beautiful thing she could see was a safe place, with the kids surrounded by other children and trees, and with her finally able to connect [[spoiler: (and give them names)]]. The implausible appearance of [[spoiler: Dr. Lapham]] adds to this, as Malorie would dream up someone who could validate her success at connecting with her child.
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* Malorie saw the monsters and the ending is her fantasy. Malorie's whole character arc centers around her inability to connect with people and truly care about others. It could be argued that criminally insane people suffer from the same problem, which allows them to hurt others. When they see the monsters, they see "the most beautiful things" - including a world where they can hurt others with no repercussions. For Malorie, the most beautiful thing she could see was a safe place, with the kids surrounded by other children and trees, and with her finally able to connect [[spoiler: (and give them names)]]. The implausible appearance of [[spoiler: Dr. Lapham]] adds to this, as Malorie would dream up someone who could validate her success at connecting with her child.
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* Malorie saw the monsters and the ending is her fantasy. Malorie's whole character arc centers around her inability to connect with people and truly care about others. It could be argued that criminally insane people suffer from the same problem, which allows them to hurt others. When they see the monsters, they see "the most beautiful things" - including a world where they can hurt others with no repercussions. For Malorie, the most beautiful thing she could see was a safe place, with the kids surrounded by other children and trees, and with her finally able to connect [[spoiler: (and give them names)]]. The implausible appearance of [[spoiler: Dr. Lapham]] adds to this, as Malorie would dream up someone who could validate her success at connecting with her child.
