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* HypocriticalHumor:
** Peachy throws an innocent Indian off the train, blaming him for stealing the watch that he'd actually stolen himself.
** Danny and Peachy incite a tribe to attack a rival village, who among other sins are accused of urinating upstream from their village. Once defeated they enlist this new tribe into their army as well, inciting them to attack the next village up the river, whose inhabitants have also been pissing upstream...
** Peachy throws an innocent Indian off the train, blaming him for stealing the watch that he'd actually stolen himself.
** Danny and Peachy incite a tribe to attack a rival village, who among other sins are accused of urinating upstream from their village. Once defeated they enlist this new tribe into their army as well, inciting them to attack the next village up the river, whose inhabitants have also been pissing upstream...
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* BattleInterruptingShout: Priests walk across the battle field and the war stops, with all combatants dropping on their faces.
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* MidBattleTeaBreak: Priests walk across the battle field and the war stops, with all combatants dropping on their faces.
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* AlasPoorYorick: The end.
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* AdaptationExpansion: The original story is barely 20 pages long, while the adaptation is an epic film, ''greatly'' expanding on backstory, character traits and showing all the effort it took for both conmen to achieve their ends, rather than just rolling into Kafiristan one day and taking it over. The masonic plot doesn't even exist in the source material and the GodGuise is greatly downplayer in it.
* AlasPoorYorick:The end.In the end [[spoiler: Peachy presents Danny's skull to Kipling]].
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* AudienceSurrogate: Kipling.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Danny gets a very humble one.
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* AudienceSurrogate: Kipling.
Kipling, who listens to Peachy's story and asks additional questions.
* AwesomeMomentOfCrowning: Danny gets a very humbleone.one, despite being considered a god.
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* BattleInterruptingShout: Priests walk across the battle field and the War stops.
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* CrazyHomelessPeople: Peachy appears to be one at the start of the film.
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* CrazyHomelessPeople: Peachy appears to be one at the start of the film.
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* ConMan: Both of theprotagonists.protagonists, who are remorseless thieves and cheats.
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* DefiantToTheEnd.DefiantToTheEnd: [[spoiler: Once their ruse is no longer effective, Peachy, Danny and Billy try to fight their way through. When they end up surrounded and without any bullets left, they still are eager to attack anyone who even dares getting close. Danny eventually FaceDeathWithDignity when he's put on the bridge he ordered to build and thrown into the ravine below]].
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* LoveableRogue: The protagonists.
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* LoveableRogue: The protagonists.protagonists manage to be this despite being extremely racist and greedy conmen who don't see anything wrong with starting out a tribal conflict for their own profit.
* RealityEnsues: A poor, desolated and remote region of Afganistan isn't exactly a place where [[spoiler: war loot is going to be anything but worthless junk. If no for Alexander's treasure, Danny and Peachy would never even see a single golden item, while taking over entire country]].
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* ThwartedEscape: The end of the film.
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* ThwartedEscape: The end of the film.film - [[spoiler: their loyal troops get surrounded and killed by angry villagers, most of the treasure is lost and eventually both conmen are captured once they are out of ammo. All of this in a very quick succession]].
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* BookEndsBookEnds: An early scene has Danny and Peachy visiting the office of Kipling's newspaper. Peachy [[spoiler:comes back at the end, with only Danny's head.]]
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* {{Mentors}}: Kipling.
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* MrExposition: Kipling explains about Freemasons, then Kafiristan and Alexander the Great, early in the movie.
** Once arrived in Kafiristan, Billy Fish becomes this, due to being a CunningLinguist.
** Once arrived in Kafiristan, Billy Fish becomes this, due to being a CunningLinguist.
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* AlexanderTheGreat: Known as "Sikander" to the Kafirs, and held in legend as a god since he passed through and helped advance the region millenia earlier. He said he would return one day, and the high priests have been waiting ever since.
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* AlexanderTheGreat: UsefulNotes/AlexanderTheGreat: Known as "Sikander" to the Kafirs, and held in legend as a god since he passed through and helped advance the region millenia earlier. He said he would return one day, and the high priests have been waiting ever since.
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** [[spoiler:Billy Fish is all smiles as he charges to his pointless death]].
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** [[spoiler:Billy Fish is all smiles as he charges to his [[SenselessSacrifice pointless death]].death]]]].
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* GutturalGrowler: Peachy's voice is as rough as his manners.
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* VillainProtagonist: Both Danny and Peachy could be considered villainous people given that they are con men who are simply out to swindle a race of people who they feel are inferior. Never mind the fact that not only had they planned to steal from them, but they planned several CurbStompBattle's in order to conquer the the various tribes under one banner. Not very nice men.
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* TheRaj
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* BadassBandolier: Danny's plays a significant role in the plot.
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* DirtyCoward: Ootah, a Kafiri chieftain. How he attained this leadership position in a tribal society is anyone's guess.
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* DuelingStarsMovie: Sean Connery and Michael Caine.
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* WhiteMansBurden: One of the main themes. Danny gets high on it after being crowned.
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* WhiteMansBurden: One of the main themes.themes; the author of the original short story also coined the term in another of his works, and examining it was a big theme in Kipling's work generally. Danny gets high on it after being crowned.
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* SoleSurvivor: Billy Fish of a mapping expedition years before Danny and Peachy set out. [[spoiler: Peachy becomes this when all their troops are wiped down and Danny is killed]].
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* SoleSurvivor: Billy Fish of a mapping expedition years before Danny and Peachy set out. [[spoiler: Peachy becomes this when all their troops are wiped down out and Danny is killed]].
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* WhiteMansBurden: One of the main themes. Danny gets high on in it after being crowned.
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* BecomingTheMask: Danny is only interested in imitating a god to facilitate robbing the villagers blind. Quickly, however, he takes a vested interest in governing "his" people and ultimately decides to stay and rule rather than return to Britain.
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* BecomingTheMask: Danny is only interested in imitating a god to facilitate robbing the villagers blind. Quickly, however, he takes a vested an interest in governing "his" people and ultimately decides to stay and rule rather than return to Britain.
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* CelibateHero: Inverted and ultimately subveted - Daniel and Peachy are doubtlessly as sly with women as they are with men's money and trust, but both make a pact not to dabble in matters of the opposite sex until their quest to become kings is achieved. Despite their unscrupulous nature, they stick to this surprisingly well. [[spoiler:Until Danny lets godhood get to his head and he demands a wife...]]
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* CelibateHero: Inverted and ultimately subveted subverted - Daniel and Peachy are doubtlessly as sly with women as they are with men's money and trust, but both make a pact not to dabble in matters of the opposite sex until their quest to become kings is achieved. Despite their unscrupulous nature, they stick to this surprisingly well. [[spoiler:Until Danny lets godhood get to his head and he demands a wife...]]
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* SupportingProtagonist: Peachy is the main character and the narrator of the story, but it's ultimately Danny's story, as the title suggests.
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* BecomingTheMask: Danny is only interested in imitating a god to facilitate robbing the villagers blind. Quickly, however, he takes a vested interest in governing "his" people and ultimately decides to stay and rule rather than return to Britain.
* MightyWhitey: Exploited. The two conmen are comfortable that, as Britons with some rifles, they'll have no trouble becoming kings of the Nuristani people. They're not wrong.
* MuggingTheMonster: Five bandits cross paths with the two conmen and decide to help themselves to the conmen's possessions. Unfortunately for them, their victims are battle-hardened soldiers.
* MuggingTheMonster: Five bandits cross paths with the two conmen and decide to help themselves to the conmen's possessions. Unfortunately for them, their victims are battle-hardened soldiers.
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* PocketProtector: Used to stop an arrow with a bandolier.
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* PocketProtector: Used Danny's bandolier beneath his coat stops an arrow. All the villagers who see it assume that he's impervious to stop an arrow with harm and worship him as a bandolier.god.
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* UnreliableNarrator: {{Averted|Trope}} at the end, when Peachy proves the tale was true [[spoiler:by taking Danny's head out of a bag with the crown still on it]].
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* WarIsGlorious: Danny and Peachy enjoy combat and seem to have nothing but good memories of war, even the gory parts. Their big battle is accompanied by happy, almost comical music. During the fighting, Danny is so excited to join the fray that that he leads a premature cavalry charge.
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* KukrisAreCool: Billy Fish, an actual Gurkha soldier, has one and uses it in his final stand.
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* KukrisAreCool: KukrisAreKool: Billy Fish, an actual Gurkha soldier, has one and uses it in his final stand.
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* FunWithForeignLanguages: Kafiristan means "Land of Infidels".
** It is an actual historical region in Afghanistan. It was called such by its Muslim neighbors because, like in the story, its inhabitants were not Muslims and it was largely inaccessible because of geography. It remained mysterious to outsiders for centuries until Afghans finally conquered the region and forcibly converted its people to Islam only in 1896, 8 years after the original story was published. The region is now called Nuristan.
** It is an actual historical region in Afghanistan. It was called such by its Muslim neighbors because, like in the story, its inhabitants were not Muslims and it was largely inaccessible because of geography. It remained mysterious to outsiders for centuries until Afghans finally conquered the region and forcibly converted its people to Islam only in 1896, 8 years after the original story was published. The region is now called Nuristan.
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* SeveredHeadSports: People in Kaffiristan are shown playing polo with the head in a bag of a chieftain who was deposed. [[spoiler: Part of the reason the narrator takes his friend's severed head with him, is so that he avoids his dishonor.]]
** This is based on real life polo-like game called Buzkashi popular in Afghanistan. The modern version of the game is played with the carcass of a goat or a calf, but earlier versions were reputed to involve corpses of vanquished enemies.
** This is based on real life polo-like game called Buzkashi popular in Afghanistan. The modern version of the game is played with the carcass of a goat or a calf, but earlier versions were reputed to involve corpses of vanquished enemies.
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* SeveredHeadSports: People in Kaffiristan are shown playing polo with the head in a bag of a chieftain who was deposed. [[spoiler: Part of the reason the narrator takes his friend's severed head with him, is so that he avoids his dishonor.]]
**]] This is based on real life polo-like game called Buzkashi popular in Afghanistan. The modern version of the game is played with the carcass of a goat or a calf, but earlier versions were reputed to involve corpses of vanquished enemies.
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* VillainyFreeVillain: The High Priest is the greatest threat to Danny and Peachy's plan, but they're con-men trying to exploit his religion to steal his temple's riches. He's totally justified in rooting out their lies.
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* SinisterMinister: The HighPriest of Kafiristan.
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* SinisterMinister: The HighPriest of Kafiristan. He's stern and imperious, but he's also completely justified in his doubt over Danny's legitimacy.
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* [[spoiler: GoOutWithASmile]]: Danny.
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* [[spoiler: GoOutWithASmile]]: Danny.GoOutWithASmile:
** The epitome of StiffUpperLip, Danny and Peachy are like this each time they believe their death is imminent. They're even saved when their laughing causes an avalanche. In the end [[spoiler:Danny sings his marching song to the end]].
** [[spoiler:Billy Fish is all smiles as he charges to his pointless death]].
** The epitome of StiffUpperLip, Danny and Peachy are like this each time they believe their death is imminent. They're even saved when their laughing causes an avalanche. In the end [[spoiler:Danny sings his marching song to the end]].
** [[spoiler:Billy Fish is all smiles as he charges to his pointless death]].
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* KarmaHoudini: The High Priest of Kafiristan.
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* VillainProtagonist: Danny and Peachy qualify as this in many ways - though grudgingly likeable characters you can't help but root for during most of the film, they're also bigoted, remorseless con men seeking to plunder a small nation by taking advantage of it's primitive culture and deeply held religious beliefs. Not to mention casual racism, many imperialistic undertones and open contempt to anything not English.
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* KukrisAreCool: Billy Fish, an actual Gurkha soldier, has one and uses it in his final stand.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: During the 1950s, John Huston tried unsuccessfully to make a version of the film starring Humphrey Bogart and Clark Gable but he was never able to do so. Both of them were long dead by 1975.
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* ChekhovsArmoury: There is enough [[ChekhovsGun guns]] to fill an armoury.
** The Freemasons' Eye medalion
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** Quite literall armoury is carried for most of the film by Peachy and Danny, as they are smuggling enough rifles to field few platoons.
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** Quite literall armoury is carried for most of the film by Peachy and Danny, as they Danny are smuggling enough rifles to field a few platoons.platoons - they might as well have had a literal armoury.
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* OnlyTheKnowledgableMayPass: When Peachy meets Kipling, they identify each other as Freemasons by a exchange of ritual phrases.
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* OnlyTheKnowledgableMayPass: When Peachy the straight-laced Kipling first meets Kipling, the roguish Peachy, the atmosphere is awkward. But then they identify each other as Freemasons by a exchange of ritual phrases.phrases, and Kipling is compelled to help Peachy as a fellow Freemason.
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* AncientConspiracy: Peachy and Danny are members of the Freemasons. When this is found out, it marks them as the descendants of Alexander the Great to the Holy Men.
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* AncientConspiracy: Peachy and Danny are members of the Freemasons. When this is found out, it marks them as the descendants of Alexander the Great to the Holy Men.Men, as Alexander left behind Masonic symbols.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Peachy and Daniel dub their Gurkha sidekick "Billy Fish" because he reminds him of an Army friend of the same name.
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* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Peachy and Daniel dub their Gurkha sidekick "Billy Fish" because he reminds him of an Army friend of the same name. name.
* OnlyTheKnowledgableMayPass: When Peachy meets Kipling, they identify each other as Freemasons by a exchange of ritual phrases.
-->'''Peachy:''' ...Suppose I was to ask you, as a stranger going to the West, to seek for that which was lost - what would you say then?
-->'''Kipling:''' ...I should answer, where do you come from?
-->'''Peachy:''' From the East, and I am hoping that you will give my message on the square for the sake of the widow’s son.
-->'''Kipling:''' ...Which lodge do you hail from?
* OnlyTheKnowledgableMayPass: When Peachy meets Kipling, they identify each other as Freemasons by a exchange of ritual phrases.
-->'''Peachy:''' ...Suppose I was to ask you, as a stranger going to the West, to seek for that which was lost - what would you say then?
-->'''Kipling:''' ...I should answer, where do you come from?
-->'''Peachy:''' From the East, and I am hoping that you will give my message on the square for the sake of the widow’s son.
-->'''Kipling:''' ...Which lodge do you hail from?
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** This is based on real life polo-like game called Buzkashi popular in Afghanistan. The modern version of the game is played with the carcass of a goat or a calf, but earlier versions were reputed to involve corpses of vanquished enwmies.
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** This is based on real life polo-like game called Buzkashi popular in Afghanistan. The modern version of the game is played with the carcass of a goat or a calf, but earlier versions were reputed to involve corpses of vanquished enwmies.enemies.