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* AscendedFanboy: Bob.
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* AscendedFanboy: Bob.Bob was obsessed with Jesse James and ultimately gets to join his gang.
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* BerserkButton: Calling Robert a coward. Late in the film while reenacting the shooting on stage, someone in the audience calls him a coward twice, leading him to jump off the stage and start pummeling the man.
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* BerserkButton: Calling Robert a coward. Late in the film while reenacting the shooting on stage, someone in the audience calls him a coward twice, leading him to jump off the stage and start pummeling a man he suspects of being the man. culprit.
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* TheCameo: Music/NickCave.
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* TheCameo: Music/NickCave.Music/NickCave as the musician in the saloon.
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* TheHeroDies: Both Jesse and Robert themselves at the end.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: Bob brought it down on himself when he tried to play off the killing as heroic.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: Bob brought it down on himself when he tried to play off the killing as heroic.
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* TheHeroDies: Both Jesse and Robert themselves at the end.
end, as much as either can be said to be heroes.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: Bobbrought it down on killed a notorious outlaw, but tries to pass himself when he tried to play off the killing as heroic.a hero for it unsuccessfully, having been a boon companion of Jesse's previously.
* HeroWithBadPublicity: Bob
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". Jesse might have been a notorious outlaw, but the public at large still come to regard Ford killing him that way as a very low move.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also The treacherous and cowardly nature of the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". Jesse might have been a notorious outlaw, but the public at large still come to regard Ford killing him that way as a very low move. helped sway public opinion to sympathize with Jesse over Bob.
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* InstantDeathBullet: {{Averted}}. After being shot in the head, Wood Hite is still alive for a few moments.
* ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne: When Bob hears "The Ballad of Jesse James" playing, Bob shoots the floor after [[BerserkButton the verse calling him a coward]]...and tells the musician that [[BaitAndSwitch Jesse had two kids not three.]]
* ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne: When Bob hears "The Ballad of Jesse James" playing, Bob shoots the floor after [[BerserkButton the verse calling him a coward]]...and tells the musician that [[BaitAndSwitch Jesse had two kids not three.]]
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* SadClown: Charley.
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* SadClown: Charley.Charley affects a lighter personality, but is even more weighed down by his conscience and lifestyle.
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* TemptingFate: After bullying him, Wood laughs off Bob's threats to put a bullet in his head, and threatens him with his familial relationship to Jesse (Wood is his cousin). Later in the film, Bob does just that.
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* TemptingFate: After bullying him, Wood laughs off Bob's threats to put a bullet in his head, and threatens him with his familial relationship to Jesse (Wood is his (his cousin). Later in the film, Bob does just that.makes good on his threat.
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* EtTuBrute: The public sees Bob as not just a coward but a traitor for killing Jesse.
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* ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne: When Bob hears "The Ballad of Jesse James" playing, Bob shoots the floor after [[BerserkButton the verse calling him a coward]]...and tells the musician that [[BaitAndSwitch Jesse had two kids not three.]]
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". Jesse might have been a notorious outlaw, but the public at large still come to regard Ford killing him that way as a very low move. Not helping Robert's case is the fact Jesse's wife was in the next room.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". Jesse might have been a notorious outlaw, but the public at large still come to regard Ford killing him that way as a very low move. Not helping Robert's case is the fact Jesse's wife was in the next room.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". People dislike the fact that he shot James in the back.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jesse James". People dislike Jesse might have been a notorious outlaw, but the fact public at large still come to regard Ford killing him that he shot James in the back.way as a very low move.
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* NiceHat: A must in a Western, though there are surprisingly few stetsons. Jesse favors a bowler. Bob's ragged top hat is less nice.
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* NiceHat: A must in a Western, though there are surprisingly few stetsons. Jesse favors a bowler.bowler, while Frank wears a fedora. Bob's ragged top hat is less nice.
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* NiceHat: A must in a Western, though there are surprisingly few cowboy hats. Jesse favors a bowler. Bob's ragged top hat is less nice.
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* NiceHat: A must in a Western, though there are surprisingly few cowboy hats.stetsons. Jesse favors a bowler. Bob's ragged top hat is less nice.
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The film is a {{Deconstruction}} of the James myth, as a man normally portrayed in Hollywood as a romantic ''Myth/RobinHood''-esque AntiHero is here [[ShownTheirWork (much more accurately)]] shown as a cold, dangerous, paranoid, AxCrazy lunatic. Meanwhile, the normally vilified Robert Ford starts off with an unsettling hero-worship towards James, but gradually becomes disillusioned with - and eventually terrified of - the infamous outlaw.
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The film is a {{Deconstruction}} of the James myth, as a man normally portrayed in Hollywood as a romantic ''Myth/RobinHood''-esque AntiHero is here [[ShownTheirWork (much more accurately)]] shown as a cold, dangerous, paranoid, AxCrazy lunatic. Meanwhile, the normally vilified Robert Ford starts off with an unsettling hero-worship towards James, but gradually becomes disillusioned with - -- and eventually terrified of - -- the infamous outlaw.
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* BrokenPedestal: Bob is heartbroken when his hero treats him like dirt just as everyone else has all his life. In the dinner scene especially, the shift from childlike admiration to deep seated loathing is nicely conveyed by Casey Affleck.
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* BrokenPedestal: Bob is heartbroken when his hero treats him like dirt just as everyone else has all his life. In the dinner scene especially, the shift from childlike admiration to deep seated deep-seated loathing is nicely conveyed by Casey Affleck.
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* CameraAbuse: Before the train robbery scene the train hits the camera and takes it along with it.
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* CameraAbuse: Before the train robbery scene scene, the train hits the camera and takes it along with it.
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* CruelToBeKind: Frank may have been a complete jerk to Bob when he met him but its clear he didn't want to see him fall into his life.
* DecoyProtagonist: Jesse is given as much, of it not more, attention while he's around as Robert Ford, but the story is ultimately Robert's. Some audiences were frustrated that the story continued a fair duration after Jesse's death.
* DecoyProtagonist: Jesse is given as much, of it not more, attention while he's around as Robert Ford, but the story is ultimately Robert's. Some audiences were frustrated that the story continued a fair duration after Jesse's death.
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* CruelToBeKind: Frank may have been a complete jerk to Bob when he met him him, but its it's clear he didn't want to see him fall into his life.
* DecoyProtagonist: Jesse is given as much,of it if not more, attention while he's around as Robert Ford, but the story is ultimately Robert's. Some audiences were frustrated that the story continued a fair duration after Jesse's death.
* DecoyProtagonist: Jesse is given as much,
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* TheDreaded: Jesse. People become terrified just by being in the same room as him. [[spoiler: Bob suggests to Dorothy that he killed Jesse out of fear.]]
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerrilla gets elided, especially since its focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans and supporters of the Union.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerrilla gets elided, especially since its it's focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans and supporters of the Union.
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* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and the gunslingers he grew up idolizing, yet is repeatedly reminded that he doesn't measure up to any of Them.
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* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and the gunslingers he grew up idolizing, yet is repeatedly reminded that he doesn't measure up to any of Them.them.
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* MyGodWhathaveIDone: After brutally beating a twelve-year-old for information, Jesse breaks down and cries.
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* MyGodWhathaveIDone: MyGodWhatHaveIDone: After brutally beating a twelve-year-old for information, Jesse breaks down and cries.
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* TraumaCongaLine: For Robert at least before he finally dies. After killing Jesse he has to contend with the contempt of others and his reputation as a coward for 10 years before finally being murdered himself.
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* TraumaCongaLine: For Robert at least before he finally dies. After killing Jesse Jesse, he has to contend with the contempt of others and his reputation as a coward for 10 years before finally being murdered himself.
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* TheDreaded: Jesse. People lose their nerve just by being in the same room as him. [[spoiler: Bob later admits the reason he killed Jesse was because he was afraid of him.]]
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* TheDreaded: Jesse. People lose their nerve become terrified just by being in the same room as him. [[spoiler: Bob later admits the reason suggests to Dorothy that he killed Jesse was because he was afraid out of him.fear.]]
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* NiceHat: A must in a Western, though there are surprisingly few cowboy hats. Jesse favors a bowler. Bob's ragged top hat is less nice.
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* TemptingFate: After bullying him, Wood laughs off Bob's threats to put a bullet in his head. Later in the film, Bob does just that.
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* TemptingFate: After bullying him, Wood laughs off Bob's threats to put a bullet in his head.head, and threatens him with his familial relationship to Jesse (Wood is his cousin). Later in the film, Bob does just that.
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* TheCameo: Music/NickCave
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* TheCameo: Music/NickCaveMusic/NickCave.
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* DeathSeeker: Jesse
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* DeathSeeker: JesseJesse.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Dick is appalled at Jesse violently assaulting a child
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Dick is appalled at Jesse violently assaulting a childchild.
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* IJustWantToBeNormal: Jesse just wants to have a simple life with his wife and kids but he has been an outlaw for so long he simply doesn't know how. Exemplified by the fact that he has a normal life and alias he uses but never sticks too for long.
* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and the gun slingers he grew up idolising, yet is repeatedly reminded that he doesn't measure up to any of Them.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: Jesse just wants to have a simple life with his wife and kids but he has been an outlaw for so long he simply doesn't know how. Exemplified by the fact that he has a normal life and alias he uses but never sticks too for long.
* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and the gun slingers he grew up idolising, yet is repeatedly reminded that he doesn't measure up to any of Them.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerilla guerrilla gets elided, especially since its focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans and supporters of the Union.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: Jesse just wants to have a simple life with his wife andkids kids, but he has been an outlaw for so long he simply doesn't know how. Exemplified by the fact that he has a normal life and alias he uses but never sticks too to for long.
* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and thegun slingers gunslingers he grew up idolising, idolizing, yet is repeatedly reminded that he doesn't measure up to any of Them.
* IJustWantToBeNormal: Jesse just wants to have a simple life with his wife and
* IJustWantToBeSpecial: Bob desperately wishes he could be like Jesse and the
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* InstantDeathBullet: Averted. After being shot in the head, Wood Hite is still alive for a few moments.
* {{Jerkass}}: Wood Hite and Charley for their merciless bullying of Bob. Jesse also qualifies
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* InstantDeathBullet: Averted.{{Averted}}. After being shot in the head, Wood Hite is still alive for a few moments.
* {{Jerkass}}: Wood Hite and Charley for their merciless bullying of Bob. Jesse alsoqualifiesqualifies.
* {{Jerkass}}: Wood Hite and Charley for their merciless bullying of Bob. Jesse also
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* CaliforniaDoubling: Filmed in Winnipeg's Exchange district (which looks sufficiently old, for that matter). Many scenes were also filmed in Fort Edmonton Park in Edmonton, Alberta.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: InUniverse. The film strongly implies that UsefulNotes/JesseJames realized that the Ford boys were about to kill him and willingly went to his death, apparently out of simple weariness from running from the law.
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: InUniverse. The film strongly implies that UsefulNotes/JesseJames realized that the Ford boys were about to kill him and willingly went to his death, apparently out of simple weariness from running from the law.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerilla gets elided, especially since its focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans & supporters of the Union.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerilla gets elided, especially since its focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans & and supporters of the Union.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder. Like nearly every Jesse James story, his activities as a Confederate pro-slavery guerilla gets elided, especially since its focused on the latter half of his "career". Within the film itself, the governor disputes James' propaganda that his crimes target Republicans & supporters of the Union.
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* DownerEnding: Robert kills Jesse, and suffers the scorn and hatred of the masses for the rest of his life, before being murdered himself. To add insult to injury, the killer was pardoned a year later.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jessie James". People dislike the fact that he shot James in the back.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jessie Jesse James". People dislike the fact that he shot James in the back.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end.
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* InTheBack: How Jesse meets his end. Also the reason why Robert Ford ends up being viewed as "the Coward who killed Jessie James". People dislike the fact that he shot James in the back.
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* BerserkButton: Calling Robert a coward. Late in the film while reenacting the shooting on stage, someone in the audience calls him a coward twice, leading him to jump off the stage and start pummeling the man.
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* FamousLastWords: "Don't that picture look dusty."
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* {{Deconstruction}}{{Deconstruction}}: Of the Jesse James myth.
* DelusionsOfEloquence: Wood Hite tends to talk like this.
* DelusionsOfEloquence: Wood Hite tends to talk like this.
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* HistoricalHeroUpgrade[=/=]HistoricalVillainUpgrade: Portrayed within the story, as the legend of Jesse James makes the unstable, murderous outlaw into a hero, while Robert Ford is quickly branded a "coward" and "assassin" for his murder.
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* TwilightOfTheOldWest: The film takes place in a world very much unlike the world in Robert Ford's dime novels. The James Gang has more or less fizzled out by the time the film begins; in RealLife the James Gang never recovered from the disastrous Northfield, Minnesota raid of 1876, after which everyone except for Frank and Jesse were dead or in prison. It's the EndOfAnAge.
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* TwilightOfTheOldWest: The film takes place in a world very much unlike the world in Robert Ford's dime novels. The James Gang has more or less fizzled out by the time the film begins; in RealLife the James Gang never recovered from the disastrous Northfield, Minnesota raid of 1876, after which everyone except for Frank and Jesse were dead or in prison. The film shows Jesse, now without any of his experienced comrades, trying to cobble together a new gang with local lowlifes, and mostly failing. It's the EndOfAnAge.
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''The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'' is a 2007 American western film, and the second film directed by Andrew Dominick, best known for ''Film/{{Chopper}}''. It is based on the 1983 book by Ron Hansen of the same name. Punk rocker Music/NickCave provides the soundtrack and appears in a minor role. The film tells the story of the final days of UsefulNotes/JesseJames (Creator/BradPitt) as he descends into aimless ennui and murderous paranoia, as well as the rise and fall of Robert Ford (Creator/CaseyAffleck), a sycophantic fanboy of James's desperate to make a name for himself.
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''The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford'' is a 2007 American western film, and the second film directed by Andrew Dominick, Dominik, best known for ''Film/{{Chopper}}''. It is based on the 1983 book by Ron Hansen of the same name. Punk rocker Music/NickCave provides the soundtrack and appears in a minor role. The film tells the story of the final days of UsefulNotes/JesseJames (Creator/BradPitt) as he descends into aimless ennui and murderous paranoia, as well as the rise and fall of Robert Ford (Creator/CaseyAffleck), a sycophantic fanboy of James's desperate to make a name for himself.
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* TheCastShowoff: She may have had most of her role cut but Zooey Deschanel gets a song to compensate.
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* SpoilerTitle: Jesse James is going to be assassinated. By Robert Ford. It's left to the viewer to decide if Ford is a coward for what he does.
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* SpoilerTitle: Jesse James is going to be assassinated. By assassinated by Robert Ford. It's left to the viewer to decide if Ford is a coward for what he does.
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The film is a {{Deconstruction}} of the James myth, as a man normally portrayed in Hollywood as a romantic ''Literature/RobinHood''-esque AntiHero is here [[ShownTheirWork (much more accurately)]] shown as a cold, dangerous, paranoid, AxCrazy lunatic. Meanwhile, the normally vilified Robert Ford starts off with an unsettling hero-worship towards James, but gradually becomes disillusioned with - and eventually terrified of - the infamous outlaw.
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The film is a {{Deconstruction}} of the James myth, as a man normally portrayed in Hollywood as a romantic ''Literature/RobinHood''-esque ''Myth/RobinHood''-esque AntiHero is here [[ShownTheirWork (much more accurately)]] shown as a cold, dangerous, paranoid, AxCrazy lunatic. Meanwhile, the normally vilified Robert Ford starts off with an unsettling hero-worship towards James, but gradually becomes disillusioned with - and eventually terrified of - the infamous outlaw.
