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* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: The core three members of Team Kong who serve as protagonists of Kong's plotline contrast the Russell family who served as protagonists of the previous movie.
** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in using an artificial device to communicate with the Titans generally in their own bio-acoustic language, whereas Andrews is invested in using sign language to communicate with Kong specifically. Both characters work with their native movies' human antagonists to combat a perceived threat to the world, but Emma works with Alan Jonah and his eco-terrorists to champion the Titans reclaiming the world from humanity, and she’s knowingly committing evil actions to that end; whereas Andrews is working with Apex Cybernetics in part because she believes they're checking a rampaging Alpha Titan that threatens human lives, and she's an unwitting pawn who has no idea of Apex's evil humanocentric plans to endanger millions and activate Mechagodzilla. Whereas Emma is driven by grief over the loss of her son to a Titan disaster and is protective of her remaining daughter, Andrews is driven by protectiveness of both Kong and the female ward that she adopted after said ward lost her own family to a Titan disaster. Whereas Emma ultimately champions Godzilla after mistakenly championing Ghidorah, Andrews primarily champions Kong after mistakenly championing Mechagodzilla's creation.
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues a goal.
** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in using an artificial device to communicate with the Titans generally in their own bio-acoustic language, whereas Andrews is invested in using sign language to communicate with Kong specifically. Both characters work with their native movies' human antagonists to combat a perceived threat to the world, but Emma works with Alan Jonah and his eco-terrorists to champion the Titans reclaiming the world from humanity, and she’s knowingly committing evil actions to that end; whereas Andrews is working with Apex Cybernetics in part because she believes they're checking a rampaging Alpha Titan that threatens human lives, and she's an unwitting pawn who has no idea of Apex's evil humanocentric plans to endanger millions and activate Mechagodzilla. Whereas Emma is driven by grief over the loss of her son to a Titan disaster and is protective of her remaining daughter, Andrews is driven by protectiveness of both Kong and the female ward that she adopted after said ward lost her own family to a Titan disaster. Whereas Emma ultimately champions Godzilla after mistakenly championing Ghidorah, Andrews primarily champions Kong after mistakenly championing Mechagodzilla's creation.
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues a goal.
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*** For a more specific case, Apex Cybernetics' Ren Serizawa contrasts the eco-terrorists' Emma Russell, as the BigBadWannabe[='s=] number two who was driven over to their side by rage and grief over losing a family member and blaming the group that big bad wannabe is opposing for their loss. They differ in that Ren ''isn't'' an EvilAllAlong mole like Emma was and he's clearly aligned with Apex from the start; and whereas Emma became a DefectorFromDecadence after Jonah refused to heed her warnings about his actions going too far for their own good [[spoiler:and she died making a HeroicSacrifice]], Ren still obeyed Simmons despite his reservations, and he paid for that [[spoiler:with his life and died without having a HeelRealization]].
* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter:The core three members of Team Kong who serve as protagonists of Kong's plotline contrast the Russell family who served as protagonists of the previous movie.
** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in using an artificial device to communicate with the Titans generally in their own bio-acoustic language, whereas Andrews is invested in using sign language to communicate with Kong specifically. Both characters work with their native movies' human antagonists to combat a perceived threat to the world, but Emma works with Alan Jonah and his eco-terrorists to champion the Titans reclaiming the world from humanity, and she’s knowingly committing evil actions to that end; whereas Andrews is working with Apex Cybernetics in part because she believes they're checking a rampaging Alpha Titan that threatens human lives, and she's an unwitting pawn who has no idea of Apex's evil humanocentric plans to endanger millions and activate Mechagodzilla. Whereas Emma is driven by grief over the loss of her son to a Titan disaster and is protective of her remaining daughter, Andrews is driven by protectiveness of both Kong and the female ward that she adopted after said ward lost her own family to a Titan disaster. Whereas Emma ultimately champions Godzilla after mistakenly championing Ghidorah, Andrews primarily champions Kong after mistakenly championing Mechagodzilla's creation.
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues a goal.See [[ContrastingSequelMainCharacter/MonsterVerse here]].
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** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in using an artificial device to communicate with the Titans generally in their own bio-acoustic language, whereas Andrews is invested in using sign language to communicate with Kong specifically. Both characters work with their native movies' human antagonists to combat a perceived threat to the world, but Emma works with Alan Jonah and his eco-terrorists to champion the Titans reclaiming the world from humanity, and she’s knowingly committing evil actions to that end; whereas Andrews is working with Apex Cybernetics in part because she believes they're checking a rampaging Alpha Titan that threatens human lives, and she's an unwitting pawn who has no idea of Apex's evil humanocentric plans to endanger millions and activate Mechagodzilla. Whereas Emma is driven by grief over the loss of her son to a Titan disaster and is protective of her remaining daughter, Andrews is driven by protectiveness of both Kong and the female ward that she adopted after said ward lost her own family to a Titan disaster. Whereas Emma ultimately champions Godzilla after mistakenly championing Ghidorah, Andrews primarily champions Kong after mistakenly championing Mechagodzilla's creation.
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues a goal.
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** The kaiju antagonists of the previous movies were all ancient, biological creatures (most from a prehistoric Earth, except for Ghidorah who was an alien), whereas Mechagodzilla in this film is a manmade {{cyborg}} that's only been created by Apex very recently.
** On the human side. The [[EcoTerrorist Eco-Terrorists]] led by Alan Jonah and Emma Russell in the previous film were an international paramilitary force led by a harsh, unpleasant MisanthropeSupreme, and their goal was being [[GaiasVengeance Gaia's Avenger]] and killing many human lives in the process. By contrast, Apex Cybernetics are a hi-tech EvilInc with seemingly good publicity led by a charismatic BitchInSheepsClothing, and their goal is killing Godzilla and exterminating or enslaving the other Titans using their bionic creation whilst using MugglePower as a justification.
** On the human side. The [[EcoTerrorist Eco-Terrorists]] led by Alan Jonah and Emma Russell in the previous film were an international paramilitary force led by a harsh, unpleasant MisanthropeSupreme, and their goal was being [[GaiasVengeance Gaia's Avenger]] and killing many human lives in the process. By contrast, Apex Cybernetics are a hi-tech EvilInc with seemingly good publicity led by a charismatic BitchInSheepsClothing, and their goal is killing Godzilla and exterminating or enslaving the other Titans using their bionic creation whilst using MugglePower as a justification.
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** The kaiju antagonists of the previous movies were all ancient, biological creatures (most from a prehistoric Earth, except for the BigBad Ghidorah who was an alien), whereas Mechagodzilla in this film is a manmade {{cyborg}} that's only been created by Apex very recently.
** On the human side. The [[EcoTerrorist Eco-Terrorists]] led by Alan Jonah and Emma Russell in the previous film were an international paramilitary force led by a harsh, unpleasant MisanthropeSupreme, and their goal was being [[GaiasVengeance Gaia's Avenger]] and killing many human livesin while championing the process. Titans' reclamation of the Earth from humans. By contrast, Apex Cybernetics in this movie are a hi-tech fantastical hi-tech, mega-rich EvilInc with seemingly good publicity publicity, led by a charismatic BitchInSheepsClothing, and their goal is killing Godzilla and exterminating or enslaving the other Titans using their bionic creation whilst while [[MugglePower championing humanity's reclamation of the Earth from Titans]].
* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: The core three members of Team Kong who serve as protagonists of Kong's plotline contrast the Russell family who served as protagonists of the previous movie.
** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in usingMugglePower an artificial device to communicate with the Titans generally in their own bio-acoustic language, whereas Andrews is invested in using sign language to communicate with Kong specifically. Both characters work with their native movies' human antagonists to combat a perceived threat to the world, but Emma works with Alan Jonah and his eco-terrorists to champion the Titans reclaiming the world from humanity, and she’s knowingly committing evil actions to that end; whereas Andrews is working with Apex Cybernetics in part because she believes they're checking a rampaging Alpha Titan that threatens human lives, and she's an unwitting pawn who has no idea of Apex's evil humanocentric plans to endanger millions and activate Mechagodzilla. Whereas Emma is driven by grief over the loss of her son to a Titan disaster and is protective of her remaining daughter, Andrews is driven by protectiveness of both Kong and the female ward that she adopted after said ward lost her own family to a Titan disaster. Whereas Emma ultimately champions Godzilla after mistakenly championing Ghidorah, Andrews primarily champions Kong after mistakenly championing Mechagodzilla's creation.
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues ajustification.goal.
** On the human side. The [[EcoTerrorist Eco-Terrorists]] led by Alan Jonah and Emma Russell in the previous film were an international paramilitary force led by a harsh, unpleasant MisanthropeSupreme, and their goal was being [[GaiasVengeance Gaia's Avenger]] and killing many human lives
* ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: The core three members of Team Kong who serve as protagonists of Kong's plotline contrast the Russell family who served as protagonists of the previous movie.
** Jia to Madison. They're both children in a three-person family unit (surrogate at most for Jia instead of her literal family as with Madison), primarily living with a mother figure at the start. Both have a profound connection to a benevolent Alpha Titan (Mothra and then Godzilla for Madison, Kong for Jia), and both end up being pawns of their debuts' main human antagonists via their mother figures respectively. They've both lost loved ones as collateral of a Titan incident before their first movie's start, but whereas Madison only lost her brother and became estranged from her father, Jia lost her entire family and her home due to Camazotz' actions. Madison is the daughter of elite Monarch scientists and has inherited some of their scientific acumen; whereas Jia is of a tribal background among the Iwi but was taken in by a Monarch scientist, and she's primarily spiritual. Madison has travelled the world, whereas the world outside of Skull Island is still very new to Jia, as shown by her thoughts in the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' novelization. Madison spends most of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' separated from one or both of her family unit's parent figures, whereas Jia spends most of ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' in near-consistent close contact with hers.
** Dr. Ilene Andrews to Emma. Both are respected and renowned Monarch scientists who specialize in bridging human-Titan communication, and they're characterized by their respective movies as maternal figures. Emma specialized in using
** Dr. Nathan Lind to Mark. They’re both ex-Monarch scientific {{Scrap Heap Hero}}es whom quit and went into isolation with a mundane job before the main story's start (wildlife photography for Mark, university lecturing for Nathan), because they both suffered the premature death of a family-member which still haunts them for most of the story until they confront and make peace with the same thing which caused the casualty. However, Mark was extremely rude, snide, hard-headed, hot-headed and aggressive but he was also prominently brave, whereas Nathan is mild-mannered, cordial and depressed but also an anxious CowardlyLion. Whereas Mark specializes in understanding the Titans' behavior and had an intrinsic connection to Godzilla, Nathan specializes in understanding the physics of the HollowEarth and he has little to no intrinsic understanding of Kong. Mark was cynical and believed to the point of pessimism that the Titans should be left alone as much as possible out of fear of human meddling backfiring: Nathan however is idealistic-minded and slightly radical about breaching the Titans' point of origin, yet he tends to be blinded by these traits to warning signs and missing steps when he pursues a
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* SpiritualAntithesis: To the preceding movie, ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019''. One is a Godzilla-focused movie with heroes and antagonists oriented around nature, Godzilla is in an extremely heroic role, and the conflict starts with the human antagonists championing the Titans conquering humanity; while the other is a Kong-centric movie with heroes and antagonists oriented around technology, Godzilla is in a more antagonistic role, and the conflict starts with the human {{contrasting sequel antagonist}}s championing humanity conquering the Titans.
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That was never canonically confirmed anywhere. As far as I can tell, Godzilla: Dominion and the Godzilla vs. Kong novelization both say that Ghidorah/Mechagodzilla had nothing to do with Godzilla sending them back into hibernation, he did so because the Earth couldn't support all those Titans long-term. The claim that Godzilla did it because of the Mecha seems to just be a fan claim that started early on and got out of hand.
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** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies (the reason given being that Godzilla ordered them to, as he sensed Ghidorah's presence in the construction of Mechagodzilla and wished to make it harder for him to take control of the other Titans). This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
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** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies (the reason given being that Godzilla ordered them to, as he sensed Ghidorah's presence in the construction of Mechagodzilla and wished to make it harder for him to take control of the other Titans).by Godzilla's command. This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
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** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies. This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
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** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies.movies (the reason given being that Godzilla ordered them to, as he sensed Ghidorah's presence in the construction of Mechagodzilla and wished to make it harder for him to take control of the other Titans). This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
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* BroadStrokes: Despite being set in the aftermath of the events of ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'', this movie ignores '''many''' of the preceding movie's details, especially in regards to the previous movie's ending.
** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies. This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
*** Hell, even the recurring remark about how Apex's [=HEAVs'=] "can light up Las Vegas for a week" seem out-of-place in this movie, when Las Vegas was trashed by Femuto in the 2014 movie and ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' shows five years later that the city was subsequently abandoned.
** The Hollow Earth theory is also treated in this movie by the public like it's still a quack theory as in RealLife, even though newspaper articles in the previous movie's ending outright ''[[SeriesContinuityError stated]]'' that the public now know it to definitively be real, and that Monarch have been making a point of being more transparent with the public about their knowledge to boot. Monarch operative Nathan Lind even claims in the start of this movie that humans have never managed to access the Hollow Earth before, when that's exactly what Monarch's top brass did in the previous movie.
** In ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'', Monarch successfully entered (and exited) the Hollow Earth without getting ripped to shreds via an underwater entrance which took them to a gigantic underground pocket. In ''Godzilla vs. Kong'', the Hollow Earth is explicitly walled off from the surface world by a gravity-inverting electro-static "membrane" lining the inside of the Earth, which annihilates anything short of a Titan or a specialized hi-tech Hollow Earth Aerial Vehicle that attempts to cross into the Hollow Earth; and the Hollow Earth itself is an ultraterrestrial AcidTripDimension with mixed gravity which is implied to be very near, and possibly right on top of, the Earth's core.
** The ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' ending hinted that multiple Titans were converging on Skull Island, but in this movie's supplementary materials, only one Titan from the outside world, Camazotz, does so.
** A newspaper in the ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' CreativeClosingCredits hinted that Mechagodzilla was being tested on Skull Island. Whilst Mechagodzilla does appear in the [=MonsterVerse=] proper in this movie, it's instead being constructed in the middle of Hong Kong with no connection to Skull Island.
** Even Ghidorah's post-mortem remains get some broad strokes.
*** For one thing, Ghidorah's severed head was seized at the end of the previous movie by an [[MisanthropeSupreme ultra-misanthropic]] EcoTerrorist, but by the time of this movie, it's fallen into the hands of a ResearchInc whom have a [[MugglePower warped "humanist" ideology of opposing the Titans]] (a.k.a. the ideological polar opposite of everything that the misanthropic terrorists stood for, bringing up the question of ''how'' the skull changed hands or ''why'' if the terrorists willingly gave it up).
*** For another, this movie's novelization states that there are ''two'' Ghidorah skulls instead of just one, which raises a lot more questions that it can answer since ''all'' of Ghidorah except for a ''single'' previously-severed head was thoroughly disintegrated and vaporized in the previous movie. Fortunately, ''this'' anomaly is somewhat amended by how in the finished movie version, only ''one'' Ghidorah skull is ever seen and the existence of a second skull is mere speculation by a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} highly questionable source]].
** Despite that the previous movie saw over a dozen Titans awakening and actively destroying cities worldwide under King Ghidorah's command, you wouldn't think it at all when watching this movie and seeing how ''normally'' all parts of the world that the human leads visit seem to be functioning: no references to the many cities that were previously destroyed (which included ''[[WashingtonDCInvasion the capital of the United States]]'' and several other countries' capitals), no references to all the people that must have died, no signs that the U.S. military's staff and resources were left severely diminished after all four branches' costly stand against Ghidorah and the Titan army, and absolutely no sign of the other Titans Ghidorah awakened, with Word of God and the ''Godzilla vs. Kong'' supplementary materials claiming (in contradiction to ''King of the Monsters''[='=] emphasis on the Titans' awakening and the ending being the DawnOfAnEra) that all the Titans unceremoniously returned to their hibernations inbetween movies. This is in stark contrast to the lasting fallout of G-Day in the 2014 movie, which almost all of the Franchise/MonsterVerse instalments set after 2014 have placed emphasis on.
*** Hell, even the recurring remark about how Apex's [=HEAVs'=] "can light up Las Vegas for a week" seem out-of-place in this movie, when Las Vegas was trashed by Femuto in the 2014 movie and ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' shows five years later that the city was subsequently abandoned.
** The Hollow Earth theory is also treated in this movie by the public like it's still a quack theory as in RealLife, even though newspaper articles in the previous movie's ending outright ''[[SeriesContinuityError stated]]'' that the public now know it to definitively be real, and that Monarch have been making a point of being more transparent with the public about their knowledge to boot. Monarch operative Nathan Lind even claims in the start of this movie that humans have never managed to access the Hollow Earth before, when that's exactly what Monarch's top brass did in the previous movie.
** In ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'', Monarch successfully entered (and exited) the Hollow Earth without getting ripped to shreds via an underwater entrance which took them to a gigantic underground pocket. In ''Godzilla vs. Kong'', the Hollow Earth is explicitly walled off from the surface world by a gravity-inverting electro-static "membrane" lining the inside of the Earth, which annihilates anything short of a Titan or a specialized hi-tech Hollow Earth Aerial Vehicle that attempts to cross into the Hollow Earth; and the Hollow Earth itself is an ultraterrestrial AcidTripDimension with mixed gravity which is implied to be very near, and possibly right on top of, the Earth's core.
** The ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' ending hinted that multiple Titans were converging on Skull Island, but in this movie's supplementary materials, only one Titan from the outside world, Camazotz, does so.
** A newspaper in the ''Godzilla: King of the Monsters'' CreativeClosingCredits hinted that Mechagodzilla was being tested on Skull Island. Whilst Mechagodzilla does appear in the [=MonsterVerse=] proper in this movie, it's instead being constructed in the middle of Hong Kong with no connection to Skull Island.
** Even Ghidorah's post-mortem remains get some broad strokes.
*** For one thing, Ghidorah's severed head was seized at the end of the previous movie by an [[MisanthropeSupreme ultra-misanthropic]] EcoTerrorist, but by the time of this movie, it's fallen into the hands of a ResearchInc whom have a [[MugglePower warped "humanist" ideology of opposing the Titans]] (a.k.a. the ideological polar opposite of everything that the misanthropic terrorists stood for, bringing up the question of ''how'' the skull changed hands or ''why'' if the terrorists willingly gave it up).
*** For another, this movie's novelization states that there are ''two'' Ghidorah skulls instead of just one, which raises a lot more questions that it can answer since ''all'' of Ghidorah except for a ''single'' previously-severed head was thoroughly disintegrated and vaporized in the previous movie. Fortunately, ''this'' anomaly is somewhat amended by how in the finished movie version, only ''one'' Ghidorah skull is ever seen and the existence of a second skull is mere speculation by a [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} highly questionable source]].
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** Ren Serizawa can also be considered this to Godzilla. Whilst Godzilla knows that some of the humans (specifically Apex) [[spoiler:are building Mechagodzilla as a threat to his dominance, and the novelization all but confirms that Godzilla is indeed reacting so drastically because he can also sense that part of Ghidorah is still alive in the Mecha]]; not only does Godzilla as an animal likely have no idea of Ren's relation to the human who saved Godzilla's life in the previous film let alone Ren's motivations, but Ren also dies [[spoiler:when mechagodzilla becomes sentient]] before Ren ever gets the chance to fight the King of the Monsters with it.
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** Ren Serizawa can also be considered this to Godzilla. Whilst Godzilla knows that some of the humans (specifically Apex) [[spoiler:are building Mechagodzilla as a threat to his dominance, and the novelization all but confirms that Godzilla is indeed reacting so drastically because he can also sense that part of Ghidorah is still alive in the Mecha]]; not only does Godzilla as an animal likely have no idea of Ren's relation to the human who saved Godzilla's life in the previous film let alone Ren's motivations, but Ren also dies [[spoiler:when mechagodzilla Mechagodzilla becomes sentient]] before Ren ever gets the chance to fight the King of the Monsters with it.
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* NatureVersusTechnology: Godzilla, Kong and most of the [[{{Kaiju}} Titans]] have been established previously throughout the Franchise/MonsterVerse to be eons-old embodiments of natural forces and GaiasVengeance, with ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' [[GreenAesop particularly establishing]] that despite [[NatureIsNotNice both]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters sides]]' destructive capacities, Titans and humanity ''can'' coexist together in harmony if they so choose to. The human antagonists of this movie, Apex Cybernetics, are a remarkably hi-tech corporation whom are obsessed with rampant technological advancement in the name of dominating or subjugating nature (the Titans) to establish humanity as the supreme lifeform on Earth, embodying [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair Ozymandian hubris]] and greed. [[spoiler:Apex are secretly creating [[HumongousMecha Mechagodzilla]] with the aim of killing and usurping Godzilla as the supreme Alpha Titan, uncaring that Godzilla is the chief reason why humanity hasn't already been destroyed, but using [[UndeadAbomination Ghidorah's undead skull]] and GreenRocks as the remote piloting brain and the fuel source respectively leads to the Mecha [[AIIsACrapshoot breaking free of Apex's control and turning against them]], and it poses an active threat to all humans ''and'' Godzilla. Mechagodzilla comes close to killing Godzilla (albeit only because the latter was only at half strength when fighting it), but it's ultimately overwhelmed and destroyed by Godzilla and Kong]].
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* NatureVersusTechnology: NatureVersusTechnology:
** Godzilla, Kong and most of the [[{{Kaiju}} Titans]] have been established previously throughout the Franchise/MonsterVerse to be eons-old embodiments of natural forces and GaiasVengeance, with ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' [[GreenAesop particularly establishing]] that despite [[NatureIsNotNice both]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters sides]]' destructive capacities, Titans and humanity ''can'' coexist together in harmony if they so choose to. The human antagonists of this movie, Apex Cybernetics, are a remarkably hi-tech corporation whom are obsessed with rampant technological advancement in the name of dominating or subjugating nature (the Titans) to establish humanity as the supreme lifeform on Earth, embodying [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair Ozymandian hubris]] and greed. [[spoiler:Apex are secretly creating [[HumongousMecha Mechagodzilla]] with the aim of killing and usurping Godzilla as the supreme Alpha Titan, uncaring that Godzilla is the chief reason why humanity hasn't already been destroyed, but using [[UndeadAbomination Ghidorah's undead skull]] and GreenRocks as the remote piloting brain and the fuel source respectively leads to the Mecha [[AIIsACrapshoot breaking free of Apex's control and turning against them]], and it poses an active threat to all humans ''and'' Godzilla. Mechagodzilla comes close to killing Godzilla (albeit only because the latter was only at half strength when fighting it), but it's ultimately overwhelmed and destroyed by Godzilla and Kong]].
** Although Apex's CorporateConspiracy themselves represent the worst in human overuse of technology, high technological advancement in itself isn't presented as necessarily being a bad thing. The [=HEAVs=] which Apex give to Team Kong are essential in breaching the Hollow Earth and finding Kong a new home down there, [[spoiler:and they're ''also'' vital in saving Kong from expiring of heart arrhythmia -- had Kong not been saved, Mechagodzilla would have surely killed Godzilla and been victorious with no remaining Alpha Titans able to defend humanity against it. And after Apex and Mechagodzilla's respective downfalls, Monarch apparently continue to use the new technology to establish a permanent settlement in the Hollow Earth so they can monitor Kong]].
** Godzilla, Kong and most of the [[{{Kaiju}} Titans]] have been established previously throughout the Franchise/MonsterVerse to be eons-old embodiments of natural forces and GaiasVengeance, with ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' [[GreenAesop particularly establishing]] that despite [[NatureIsNotNice both]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters sides]]' destructive capacities, Titans and humanity ''can'' coexist together in harmony if they so choose to. The human antagonists of this movie, Apex Cybernetics, are a remarkably hi-tech corporation whom are obsessed with rampant technological advancement in the name of dominating or subjugating nature (the Titans) to establish humanity as the supreme lifeform on Earth, embodying [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair Ozymandian hubris]] and greed. [[spoiler:Apex are secretly creating [[HumongousMecha Mechagodzilla]] with the aim of killing and usurping Godzilla as the supreme Alpha Titan, uncaring that Godzilla is the chief reason why humanity hasn't already been destroyed, but using [[UndeadAbomination Ghidorah's undead skull]] and GreenRocks as the remote piloting brain and the fuel source respectively leads to the Mecha [[AIIsACrapshoot breaking free of Apex's control and turning against them]], and it poses an active threat to all humans ''and'' Godzilla. Mechagodzilla comes close to killing Godzilla (albeit only because the latter was only at half strength when fighting it), but it's ultimately overwhelmed and destroyed by Godzilla and Kong]].
** Although Apex's CorporateConspiracy themselves represent the worst in human overuse of technology, high technological advancement in itself isn't presented as necessarily being a bad thing. The [=HEAVs=] which Apex give to Team Kong are essential in breaching the Hollow Earth and finding Kong a new home down there, [[spoiler:and they're ''also'' vital in saving Kong from expiring of heart arrhythmia -- had Kong not been saved, Mechagodzilla would have surely killed Godzilla and been victorious with no remaining Alpha Titans able to defend humanity against it. And after Apex and Mechagodzilla's respective downfalls, Monarch apparently continue to use the new technology to establish a permanent settlement in the Hollow Earth so they can monitor Kong]].
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* AdaptationAmalgamation: [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla takes from the various versions of a few characters throughout the eras: like the Showa version it's evil and alien (thanks to being built from the remains of Ghidorah), like the Heisei version Ghidorah plays a crucial role in its construction (the Heisei version was essentially reverse-engineered from Mecha-King Ghidorah, this version requires Ghidorah's neural network and telepathy to function), like the Millennium version it's built on the remains of another kaiju (the original Godzilla there, Ghidorah here) which causes its builders to lose control of it, and like the Heisei and Millennium versions it's built by humanity to protect themselves from Godzilla. ]]
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* CompositeCharacter: [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla takes from the various versions of a few characters throughout the eras: like the Showa version it's evil and alien (thanks to being built from the remains of Ghidorah), like the Heisei version Ghidorah plays a crucial role in its construction (the Heisei version was essentially reverse-engineered from Mecha-King Ghidorah, this version requires Ghidorah's neural network and telepathy to function), like the Millennium version it's built on the remains of another kaiju (the original Godzilla there, Ghidorah here) which causes its builders to lose control of it, and like the Heisei and Millennium versions it's built by humanity to protect themselves from Godzilla. ]]
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* CrypticBackgroundReference: In the movie version, it's apparent that Godzilla and Kong's ancestors had a primeval GreatOffscreenWar, [[spoiler:and Kong's ancestors originally lived in the HollowEarth where they built a vast temple (which in the present day is abandoned, with the skeleton of a Godzilla-like Titan lying inside with an axe wedged in its bones)]]; yet despite the movie's trailer setting up some grand revelation about how the war occurred, there's no elaboration beyond the above hints, leaving it unknown how and when the war started and ended, or also why ''Titanus Kong'' moved from the Hollow Earth to Skull Island. The novelization provides more clarification via an Iwi legend that Jia tells Andrews: it indicates that Godzilla or one of his kind fired the first shot in the war (assuming that the tale isn't biased in the favor of the Iwi's ''Titanus Kong'' deities), and Godzilla ultimately drove both the Kong species ''and'' the Iwis out of their original shared home in the Hollow Earth, forcing them to Skull Island on the surface. Godzilla's P.O.V. in the novelization also reveals that his rivalry with Kong's kind pre-dates Ghidorah's arrival on Earth. It's also revealed in ''Godzilla: Dominion'' that another member of Kong's kind once succeeded in driving the individual Godzilla out of his past territory when Godzilla was much younger.
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* NatureVersusTechnology: Godzilla, Kong and most of the [[{{Kaiju}} Titans]] have been established previously throughout the Franchise/MonsterVerse to be eons-old embodiments of natural forces and GaiasVengeance, with ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'' [[GreenAesop particularly establishing]] that despite [[NatureIsNotNice both]] [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters sides]]' destructive capacities, Titans and humanity ''can'' coexist together in harmony if they so choose to. The human antagonists of this movie, Apex Cybernetics, are a remarkably hi-tech corporation whom are obsessed with rampant technological advancement in the name of dominating or subjugating nature (the Titans) to establish humanity as the supreme lifeform on Earth, embodying [[LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair Ozymandian hubris]] and greed. [[spoiler:Apex are secretly creating [[HumongousMecha Mechagodzilla]] with the aim of killing and usurping Godzilla as the supreme Alpha Titan, uncaring that Godzilla is the chief reason why humanity hasn't already been destroyed, but using [[UndeadAbomination Ghidorah's undead skull]] and GreenRocks as the remote piloting brain and the fuel source respectively leads to the Mecha [[AIIsACrapshoot breaking free of Apex's control and turning against them]], and it poses an active threat to all humans ''and'' Godzilla. Mechagodzilla comes close to killing Godzilla (albeit only because the latter was only at half strength when fighting it), but it's ultimately overwhelmed and destroyed by Godzilla and Kong]].
* SympatheticVillainDespicableVillain:
** {{Exaggerated}} with the two main Titan antagonists, Godzilla (who's decidedly the more antagonistic Titan in the titular conflict [[spoiler:despite still being a force of good]]), and Mechagodzilla.
*** Godzilla (Sympathetic) is more ruthless and aggressive than his previous Franchise/MonsterVerse appearances, not hesitating to massacre humans in his way, plus going out of his way to seek a conflict with Kong, but he's ultimately [[GoodAllAlong still a protector of the Earth]]. [[spoiler:He's only acting up because he's trying to find and destroy Mechagodzilla, since he can sense its signal and identifies it as a serious rival to his dominance, and it's also implied that Godzilla knows Mechagodzilla's human creators are unwittingly reanimating [[OmnicidalManiac Ghidorah]] via the Mecha (and after everything that happened in the previous movie, [[EtTuBrute with humanity and Godzilla having worked together to stop Ghidorah destroying their world]] [[AesopAmnesia after humans tried to control Ghidorah]], no less); making Godzilla's rage and belligerence understandable]].
*** Mechagodzilla (Despicable) is initially under the control of [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremists]] [[spoiler:whom are happily manipulating Godzilla into decimating the densely-populated Hong Kong so that said extremists can {{take over the world}}. And then once Ghidorah's subconsciousness corrupts the Mecha's A.I. and makes it autonomous of said controllers, the Mecha begins to {{kill all humans}} on sight, and it attempts to kill Godzilla and steal his kingship over the other monsters; just as Ghidorah previously did]].
** Highly {{downplayed}} with the novelization versions of Walter Simmons and Ren Serizawa. They're both equally complicit in a CorporateConspiracy which deliberately puts millions of innocent people in a rampaging Alpha Titan's warpath and seeks to murder Godzilla, and both villains have very selfish motivations and are treated as completely inexcusable. However, the novel goes into detail on Ren's FreudianExcuse, revealing that he's a troubled former WellDoneSonGuy who mainly wants to kill Godzilla out of a sense of revenge and grief that Godzilla's existence robbed him of a relationship with his father up to the latter's HeroicSacrifice (Sympathetic); whereas Simmons is a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] {{narcissist}} who commits his crimes purely to fuel his own ego, and he has no hidden depths nor Freudian Excuse (Despicable).
** {{Exaggerated}} with the two main Titan antagonists, Godzilla (who's decidedly the more antagonistic Titan in the titular conflict [[spoiler:despite still being a force of good]]), and Mechagodzilla.
*** Godzilla (Sympathetic) is more ruthless and aggressive than his previous Franchise/MonsterVerse appearances, not hesitating to massacre humans in his way, plus going out of his way to seek a conflict with Kong, but he's ultimately [[GoodAllAlong still a protector of the Earth]]. [[spoiler:He's only acting up because he's trying to find and destroy Mechagodzilla, since he can sense its signal and identifies it as a serious rival to his dominance, and it's also implied that Godzilla knows Mechagodzilla's human creators are unwittingly reanimating [[OmnicidalManiac Ghidorah]] via the Mecha (and after everything that happened in the previous movie, [[EtTuBrute with humanity and Godzilla having worked together to stop Ghidorah destroying their world]] [[AesopAmnesia after humans tried to control Ghidorah]], no less); making Godzilla's rage and belligerence understandable]].
*** Mechagodzilla (Despicable) is initially under the control of [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Not-So-Well-Intentioned Extremists]] [[spoiler:whom are happily manipulating Godzilla into decimating the densely-populated Hong Kong so that said extremists can {{take over the world}}. And then once Ghidorah's subconsciousness corrupts the Mecha's A.I. and makes it autonomous of said controllers, the Mecha begins to {{kill all humans}} on sight, and it attempts to kill Godzilla and steal his kingship over the other monsters; just as Ghidorah previously did]].
** Highly {{downplayed}} with the novelization versions of Walter Simmons and Ren Serizawa. They're both equally complicit in a CorporateConspiracy which deliberately puts millions of innocent people in a rampaging Alpha Titan's warpath and seeks to murder Godzilla, and both villains have very selfish motivations and are treated as completely inexcusable. However, the novel goes into detail on Ren's FreudianExcuse, revealing that he's a troubled former WellDoneSonGuy who mainly wants to kill Godzilla out of a sense of revenge and grief that Godzilla's existence robbed him of a relationship with his father up to the latter's HeroicSacrifice (Sympathetic); whereas Simmons is a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] {{narcissist}} who commits his crimes purely to fuel his own ego, and he has no hidden depths nor Freudian Excuse (Despicable).
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* BitchSlap: Downplayed After Kong punches him in the face, Godzilla, while staggered, recovers and gives the ape a taste of his own medicine in the form of a giant swipe that sends Kong tumbling backwards during their fight on the aircraft carrier.[[note]][[JustfiedTrope Godzilla is a lot heavier and his tail allows him to maintain balance, and their shared weight causes the carrier to go up and down, much to Kong's detriment]].[[/note]] [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla gives an even stronger one to Godzilla by hitting his gills, throwing Godzilla around like a ragdoll with each hit.]]
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* BitchSlap: Downplayed Downplayed. After Kong punches him in the face, Godzilla, while staggered, recovers and gives the ape a taste of his own medicine in the form of a giant swipe that sends Kong tumbling backwards during their fight on the aircraft carrier.[[note]][[JustfiedTrope [[note]][[JustifiedTrope Godzilla is a lot heavier and his tail allows him to maintain balance, and their shared weight causes the carrier to go up and down, much to Kong's detriment]].[[/note]] [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla gives an even stronger one to Godzilla by hitting his gills, throwing Godzilla around like a ragdoll with each hit.]]
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* BitchSlap: After Kong punches him in the face, Godzilla -- not impressed by Kong's right hook -- gives the ape a taste of his own medicine in the form of a giant swipe that sends Kong flying backwards during their fight on the aircraft carrier. [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla gives an even stronger one to Godzilla by hitting his gills, throwing Godzilla around like a ragdoll with each hit.]]
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* BitchSlap: Downplayed After Kong punches him in the face, Godzilla -- not impressed by Kong's right hook -- Godzilla, while staggered, recovers and gives the ape a taste of his own medicine in the form of a giant swipe that sends Kong flying tumbling backwards during their fight on the aircraft carrier. carrier.[[note]][[JustfiedTrope Godzilla is a lot heavier and his tail allows him to maintain balance, and their shared weight causes the carrier to go up and down, much to Kong's detriment]].[[/note]] [[spoiler:Mechagodzilla gives an even stronger one to Godzilla by hitting his gills, throwing Godzilla around like a ragdoll with each hit.]]
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* TrustPassword: ConspiracyTheorist Bernie Hayes seeks like-minded individuals with the question "Tap or no tap?" based on his belief that the reason the government puts fluoride in tap water is to make people docile. The proper response is "No tap." Of course, one could point out that it's really a 50/50 chance, but unless people know his theories and understand the question in the first place, their response anyway would most likely be "Huh?"
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* AdaptationalMundanity: It's more subtle, but Apex Cybernetics seem to continue ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters''' tradition of adapting the old ''Godzilla'' continuities' {{Human Alien}}s who attempt to control the Kaiju (including [[spoiler:their own creation Mechagodzilla and/or Ghidorah]]) so that they're humans trying to control forces they don't understand and often suffering the consequences.
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* AdaptationalMundanity: It's more subtle, but Apex Cybernetics seem to continue ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters''' ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019''' tradition of adapting the old ''Godzilla'' continuities' {{Human Alien}}s who attempt to control the Kaiju (including [[spoiler:their own creation Mechagodzilla and/or Ghidorah]]) so that they're humans trying to control forces they don't understand and often suffering the consequences.
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** PlayedStraight in the novelization's account of Ren Serizawa's backstory. It's revealed here that when Ren was growing up, he studied hard and developed his engineering skills in the hopes that Dr. Serizawa (who was a [[ParentalNeglect distant and absent father]]) "would someday understand him – or at least take note of him". Although Ren at first looked up to his father, as things between them soured ever further and after his father finally died, Ren's desire to garner his father's attention became twisted into an OedipusComplex, leading to Ren seeking Godzilla's death as revenge for the latter robbing him of his father's love and attention and as Ren's own horrific way of surpassing his father.
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** PlayedStraight in the novelization's account of Ren Serizawa's backstory. It's revealed here that when Ren was growing up, he studied hard and developed his engineering skills in the hopes that Dr. Serizawa (who was a [[ParentalNeglect distant and absent father]]) "would someday understand him – or at least take note of him". Although Ren at first looked up to his father, as things between them soured ever further and after his father finally died, Ren's desire to garner his father's attention became twisted into an OedipusComplex, unhealthy fixation, leading to Ren seeking Godzilla's death as revenge for the latter robbing him of his father's love and attention and as Ren's own horrific way of [[ChildSupplantsParent surpassing his father.father]].
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** The main heroic humans on Team Godzilla and Team Kong are largely mature, intelligent and responsible people: especially Madison (a teenaged, WiseBeyondHerYears veteran of the war against King Ghidorah who takes it upon herself to resolve Godzilla’s mysterious rampage when she realizes no-one else will act effectively); and Jia (who is calm, dignified, intelligent, and more perceptive than even her adult peers despite her being barely into the double-digits). The only really immature hero is [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bernie Hayes]], and even this gets somewhat amended in the novelization, where he has very deep and personal reasons for wanting to bring the bad guys to justice.
** The grown villains on [[CorporateConspiracy Apex Cybernetics]], for all their corporate power, are very petulant and childish on the other hand. The [[EvilOldFolks late-middle-aged]] Walter Simmons is a self-absorbed, delusional, disaster-engineering PsychopathicManchild who sees the fate of the world as nothing more than a glory contest, cackling like an excited child or throwing sulky moods depending on his temperament. Ren Serizawa’s motives for being one of the bad guys, according to the novelization, are unresolved daddy issues which drive him to scream for his neglectful father’s attention in horrific ways long past the latter’s death. And Maia Simmons is a WellDoneDaughterGirl who has [[RichBitch all the manners of an entitled seven-year-old]] and ''[[TooDumbToLive half]]'' [[TooDumbToLive the brains to go with it]].
** The main heroic humans on Team Godzilla and Team Kong are largely mature, intelligent and responsible people: especially Madison (a teenaged, WiseBeyondHerYears veteran of the war against King Ghidorah who takes it upon herself to resolve Godzilla’s mysterious rampage when she realizes no-one else will act effectively); and Jia (who is calm, dignified, intelligent, and more perceptive than even her adult peers despite her being barely into the double-digits). The only really immature hero is [[BunnyEarsLawyer Bernie Hayes]], and even this gets somewhat amended in the novelization, where he has very deep and personal reasons for wanting to bring the bad guys to justice.
** The grown villains on [[CorporateConspiracy Apex Cybernetics]], for all their corporate power, are very petulant and childish on the other hand. The [[EvilOldFolks late-middle-aged]] Walter Simmons is a self-absorbed, delusional, disaster-engineering PsychopathicManchild who sees the fate of the world as nothing more than a glory contest, cackling like an excited child or throwing sulky moods depending on his temperament. Ren Serizawa’s motives for being one of the bad guys, according to the novelization, are unresolved daddy issues which drive him to scream for his neglectful father’s attention in horrific ways long past the latter’s death. And Maia Simmons is a WellDoneDaughterGirl who has [[RichBitch all the manners of an entitled seven-year-old]] and ''[[TooDumbToLive half]]'' [[TooDumbToLive the brains to go with it]].
* KnightTemplar: [[CorruptCorporateExecutive Walter Simmons]] and [[EvilGenius Ren Serizawa]][[note]][[HiddenAgendaVillain The latter]] was confirmed by the novelization and Word of Sain Paul[[/note]] think they're acting in mankind's best interests, because their CorporateConspiracy involves perfecting a strictly human-controlled, Titan-combating HumongousMecha with which humans would no longer need to rely on or wait for Godzilla and/or Kong to come and save them when a hostile Titan attacks; then installing this Mecha as the new global Alpha Titan that the other Titans would be more liable to defer to. Not a bad idea in principle, especially when considering how overwhelmingly outmatched humanity is relative to the Titans, ''but'':
## Simmons and Ren want Mechagodzilla to foremost murder and supplant one of the few Titans whose continued supremacy has actually been in human civilization's best interests ([[UngratefulBastard and who also saved mankind and the Earth from certain extinction one movie ago]]), so as to eliminate the competition (Simmons) and satiate a petty personal vendetta (Ren). And it's furthermore hinted that Simmons and/or Ren would've afterwards gone on to murder Kong (a Titan who's [[NiceGuy even more explicitly on humanity's side]]) just because he has the ''potential'' to challenge Mechagodzilla.
## It's indicated in the novelization that Apex's corporate conspiracy have committed outright murder solely to keep a past company scandal buried.
## Simmons and Ren instigated the entire conflict of the movie in the first place. [[spoiler:The only reason Godzilla is active and attacking cities containing Apex facilities is because he can sense Apex's experiments are creating a mechanical rival to his dominance that has ''[[OmnicidalManiac Ghidorah]]''[='s=] consciousness inside it, five years after Godzilla and humanity fought side-by-side to thwart Ghidorah's active global efforts to destroy all life in the world as we know it. Simmons and Ren are aware that their experiments are provoking Godzilla's rampage, and they're deliberately continuing them while putting as many people as possible in Godzilla's warpath for the sake of turning the usurpation plot into EngineeredHeroics]].
## [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Simmons]] is a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] {{narcissist}} who is motivated to usurp Alpha Titans that are on humanity's side, and he knowingly gets millions of people needlessly hurt and killed, solely to feed his own ego rather than out of any genuine concern for his fellow man. Hell, Simmons doesn't even ''bother'' all that much to justify himself once Madison rips his "defending humanity" excuse to shreds. Ren isn't much better, being a PsychopathicManchild with a grudge over an absent father. And one or both of these two people will be in control of the new all-powerful king of all life on Earth, potentially including the worldwide {{kaiju}} [[PersonOfMassDestruction of mass destruction]], if their plans for Mechagodzilla succeed.
## It's hinted in the movie and novelization, and explicitly confirmed by the art book, that what Simmons ''really'' wants in the long term after using Mechagodzilla to effectively make his company the new King of the Monsters is to [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans usher in a new age of corporate dystopia]], with no-one else in the world able to challenge Apex due to them being able to use Mechagodzilla to cow and threaten anyone they want.
## It really can't be overstated how self-destructively conceited Apex are. [[spoiler:Thinking that it was a good idea to [[MugglePower take the whole Earth back from the Titans for humanity]] by using ''what's left of '''Ghidorah's''' brain'' as their artificial Alpha Titan's '''own brain''', without installing overwhelming emergency safeguards, was stupid enough; but Simmons insisting that they infuse Mechagodzilla with the GreenRocks without conducting even ''basic'' testing on the rocks beforehand, just because Simmons is over-excited to see his dream come true, was just ''begging'' to become the [[Film/JurassicPark InGen or BioSyn]] of this movie]].
## Humans and Titans were effectively living in a complete peacetime with each-other before Apex set their plan in motion, and that peacetime would ''still'' be around in full force if Apex had never acted, meaning that Apex's plan was completely unnecessary to humanity's well-being in the current climate.
## As the last three [=MonsterVerse=] movies have shown, HumansAreMorons who caused all of the hostile Titans' world-threatening emergences in the first place, and they often then made the situation ''even worse'' than it already was before they helped Godzilla and/or Kong to make it any better. So it's not really a stretch to say that maybe humans in the [=MonsterVerse=] demonstrably don't '''deserve''' to be the planet's dominant species again, after throwing the balances maintained by Godzilla and Kong out of whack through stupidity and arrogance over and over again with both humanity and entire ecosystems like Skull Island (which has been obliterated as an indirect consequence of the previous movie's events) paying the price.
## Simmons and Ren want Mechagodzilla to foremost murder and supplant one of the few Titans whose continued supremacy has actually been in human civilization's best interests ([[UngratefulBastard and who also saved mankind and the Earth from certain extinction one movie ago]]), so as to eliminate the competition (Simmons) and satiate a petty personal vendetta (Ren). And it's furthermore hinted that Simmons and/or Ren would've afterwards gone on to murder Kong (a Titan who's [[NiceGuy even more explicitly on humanity's side]]) just because he has the ''potential'' to challenge Mechagodzilla.
## It's indicated in the novelization that Apex's corporate conspiracy have committed outright murder solely to keep a past company scandal buried.
## Simmons and Ren instigated the entire conflict of the movie in the first place. [[spoiler:The only reason Godzilla is active and attacking cities containing Apex facilities is because he can sense Apex's experiments are creating a mechanical rival to his dominance that has ''[[OmnicidalManiac Ghidorah]]''[='s=] consciousness inside it, five years after Godzilla and humanity fought side-by-side to thwart Ghidorah's active global efforts to destroy all life in the world as we know it. Simmons and Ren are aware that their experiments are provoking Godzilla's rampage, and they're deliberately continuing them while putting as many people as possible in Godzilla's warpath for the sake of turning the usurpation plot into EngineeredHeroics]].
## [[NotSoWellIntentionedExtremist Simmons]] is a [[TheSociopath sociopathic]] {{narcissist}} who is motivated to usurp Alpha Titans that are on humanity's side, and he knowingly gets millions of people needlessly hurt and killed, solely to feed his own ego rather than out of any genuine concern for his fellow man. Hell, Simmons doesn't even ''bother'' all that much to justify himself once Madison rips his "defending humanity" excuse to shreds. Ren isn't much better, being a PsychopathicManchild with a grudge over an absent father. And one or both of these two people will be in control of the new all-powerful king of all life on Earth, potentially including the worldwide {{kaiju}} [[PersonOfMassDestruction of mass destruction]], if their plans for Mechagodzilla succeed.
## It's hinted in the movie and novelization, and explicitly confirmed by the art book, that what Simmons ''really'' wants in the long term after using Mechagodzilla to effectively make his company the new King of the Monsters is to [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans usher in a new age of corporate dystopia]], with no-one else in the world able to challenge Apex due to them being able to use Mechagodzilla to cow and threaten anyone they want.
## It really can't be overstated how self-destructively conceited Apex are. [[spoiler:Thinking that it was a good idea to [[MugglePower take the whole Earth back from the Titans for humanity]] by using ''what's left of '''Ghidorah's''' brain'' as their artificial Alpha Titan's '''own brain''', without installing overwhelming emergency safeguards, was stupid enough; but Simmons insisting that they infuse Mechagodzilla with the GreenRocks without conducting even ''basic'' testing on the rocks beforehand, just because Simmons is over-excited to see his dream come true, was just ''begging'' to become the [[Film/JurassicPark InGen or BioSyn]] of this movie]].
## Humans and Titans were effectively living in a complete peacetime with each-other before Apex set their plan in motion, and that peacetime would ''still'' be around in full force if Apex had never acted, meaning that Apex's plan was completely unnecessary to humanity's well-being in the current climate.
## As the last three [=MonsterVerse=] movies have shown, HumansAreMorons who caused all of the hostile Titans' world-threatening emergences in the first place, and they often then made the situation ''even worse'' than it already was before they helped Godzilla and/or Kong to make it any better. So it's not really a stretch to say that maybe humans in the [=MonsterVerse=] demonstrably don't '''deserve''' to be the planet's dominant species again, after throwing the balances maintained by Godzilla and Kong out of whack through stupidity and arrogance over and over again with both humanity and entire ecosystems like Skull Island (which has been obliterated as an indirect consequence of the previous movie's events) paying the price.
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* LookOnMyWorksYeMightyAndDespair: Apex and Walter Simmons are made of this: they've built amazing technology, Walter genuinely believes that he's going to lead humanity into a new age [[spoiler:and that he's created the ultimate Titan that will usurp Godzilla and return mankind to dominance over the world.]] However, [[spoiler:in the end they require monumental effort to get Mechagodzilla ''functioning'', and once they do [[EvilerThanThou King Ghidorah hijacks it]] and wastes no time destroying them.]]
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** {{Implied}} to have happened with Kong's ancestors. They originally dwelled in the HollowEarth alongside the Iwis' ancestors, where they formed a civilization which made ingenious and grand things, including Titan-sized axes which used ''Titanus Gojira'' dorsal fins to harness the latter species' bio-atomic powers, [[spoiler:a full-fledged temple vast enough to fit more than a dozen grown Titans in, and sculptures and statues ofthis: they've built amazing technology, Walter genuinely believes ''Titanus Kong''; exhibiting '''human''' levels of intellect and architectural ingenuity]]. Kong's ancestors went to war against Godzilla and/or his species at some point[[note]][[spoiler:note that he's going the movie demonstrates in the present day with the titular two endlings of those species that Godzilla physically far outclasses and easily overwhelms Kong once the former stops playing around, even when Kong is armed with one of his ancestors' ''T. Gojira'' axes – "what is a king to lead humanity into a new age god" indeed]][[/note]]; ''Titanus Kong'' afterwards disappeared from the Hollow Earth entirely, and all that remained of their species was located on Skull Island, where we know they were whittled down by the Skullcrawlers until [[LastOfHisKind just one young endling remained]]. The novelization specifies that ''Titanus Kong'' were actually driven out of the Hollow Earth to Skull Island after losing the conflict they waged with Godzilla. In the present day, all that's left of ''Titanus Kong'' is the named LastOfHisKind, whose knowledge of his ancestors begins and ends with [[GeneticMemory biologically-ingrained homing instincts]]; [[spoiler:and that he's created all that's left of the ultimate Titan that will usurp Kong species' once-impressive civilization are the now-desolate relics and monuments they left behind in the Hollow Earth, many of which get destroyed during this movie thanks to Godzilla and return mankind Apex's actions]].
** [[ResearchInc Apex Cybernetics]] are a powerful multi-national tech corporation with ties todominance Monarch who have recently engineered amazing, cutting-edge technology that looks like it wouldn't be around in RealLife for at least another decade from 2023, and they're ''made of this trope''. Apex have recently developed cross-continental magnetic levitation train pod tunnels, and the [=HEAVs=] for entering the Hollow Earth. But above all, Apex's crowning ambition is to create a Titan-killing [[EvilKnockoff cybernetic copy of Godzilla]] so they can use it to kill and usurp the King of the Monsters himself, take over or exterminate the other Titans, and then [[DystopiaJustifiesTheMeans take over the world.]] world]]; and they've invested trillions of dollars, a massive CorporateConspiracy, [[spoiler:and EngineeredHeroics the likes of which would see them dragged in front of the International Court of Justice and tried for crimes against humanity in any ''remotely'' just world if they were ever found out]]. However, [[spoiler:in Apex using unrefined GreenRocks [[spoiler:and using a malicious, undead but still cognitively-active DraconicAbomination]] in Mechagodzilla's systems [[spoiler:both at the end they require monumental effort to get Mechagodzilla ''functioning'', same time]] results in the machine going rogue [[spoiler:under the undead Ghidorah' s influence, and once they do [[EvilerThanThou King Ghidorah hijacks it]] and it wastes no time destroying them.]][[TurnedAgainstTheirMasters massacring Mechagodzilla's former masters]], posing an existential threat to humanity while [[KillAllHumans doing exactly what Apex claimed the Mecha would stop the Titans from doing first]]]].
** {{Implied}} to have happened with Kong's ancestors. They originally dwelled in the HollowEarth alongside the Iwis' ancestors, where they formed a civilization which made ingenious and grand things, including Titan-sized axes which used ''Titanus Gojira'' dorsal fins to harness the latter species' bio-atomic powers, [[spoiler:a full-fledged temple vast enough to fit more than a dozen grown Titans in, and sculptures and statues of
** [[ResearchInc Apex Cybernetics]] are a powerful multi-national tech corporation with ties to
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: "Mechagodzilla" (as the movie's subtitles and novelization spell it), or "MechaGodzilla" (as a screen in Apex's HQ and the film's toy merchandise spell it)? Also, in the novelization, Ishirō Serizawa's first name is mispelled "Ichiro".
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* TacticalRockPaperScissors: [[spoiler:With regards to the three Kaiju present in the film. Kong lacks both the raw destructive force to overcome Godzilla's regeneration and the combat experience to deliver a decisive blow with his weapon. Godzilla has no answer for Mechagodzilla's anti-Kaiju weaponry or raw speed, which is backed up by Ghidorah's experience in combating the King of the Monsters. Finally, Mechagodzilla has no combat knowledge with regards to Kong, who has the speed and agility to keep up with it, and no regeneration to counter any damage done. That last one is downplayed, as Kong's axe holds no charge at first, but the ape lands several strikes in succession on Mechagodzilla, including sweeping its legs out from under it, that would have crippled it had the axe been charged. Once charged, Kong repeats the process with much better results.]]
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* TacticalRockPaperScissors: [[spoiler:With regards to the three Kaiju present in the film. Kong lacks both the raw destructive force to overcome Godzilla's regeneration and the combat experience to deliver a decisive blow with his weapon. Godzilla has no answer for Mechagodzilla's anti-Kaiju weaponry or raw speed, which is backed up by Ghidorah's experience in combating the King of the Monsters. Finally, Mechagodzilla has no combat knowledge with regards to Kong, who has the speed and agility to keep up with it, and but no regeneration to counter any damage done. That last one is downplayed, as Kong's axe holds no charge at first, but the ape lands several strikes in succession on Mechagodzilla, including sweeping its legs out from under it, that would have crippled it had the axe been charged. Once charged, Kong repeats the process with much better results.]]
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** In their second confrontation, [[spoiler:Kong roars defiantly in Godzilla's face when Godzilla roars at him after thrashing him in their fight, refusing to submit to the King of the Monsters. Godzilla leaves him to die of his wounds with a dismissive snort]].
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** In their second confrontation, [[spoiler:Kong roars defiantly in Godzilla's face when Godzilla roars at him after thrashing him in their fight, refusing to submit to the King of the Monsters. Godzilla leaves him to die in peace, instead of his wounds brutally finishing him off like he did with a dismissive snort]].Ghidorah.]]
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* TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture: The film is set five years after the events of ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', putting it in 2024. The novelization, conversely, is set a little over three years after the events of the previous novel, putting it in 2022.
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* NextSundayAD: The film is set five years after the events of ''Film/GodzillaKingOfTheMonsters2019'', putting it in 2024. The novelization, conversely, is set a little over three years after the events of the previous novel, putting it in 2022.
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** That said, the trope is played straight in regards to the titular kaiju. [[spoiler:In terms of the overall film story, Godzilla is not the villain, but in terms of his rivalry with Kong, Godzilla is the one to instigate all of their interactions, prompting Kong, who otherwise shows no interest in Godzilla, to fight back.]]
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* BashBrothers: [[spoiler:Godzilla and Kong when they finally work together to fight Mechagodzilla, after Jia convinces Kong that Godzilla is not the enemy. Godzilla seems to realize the alliance as well: empowering Kong's axe to allow him to defeat Mechagodzilla, and having no further animosity with him afterwards and departing peacefully, after accepting Kong's submission.]]
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* BashBrothers: [[spoiler:Godzilla and Kong when they finally work together to fight Mechagodzilla, after Jia convinces Kong that Godzilla is not the enemy. Godzilla seems to realize the alliance as well: empowering Kong's axe to allow him to defeat Mechagodzilla, and having no further animosity with him afterwards and departing peacefully, after accepting Kong's submission.peacefully.]]
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* PastExperienceNightmare: In the novelization, Nathan [[PlaguedByNightmares frequently]] dreams back to the day that his and David's mission went horribly wrong and his brother died. The novel also states that Mark Russell still has [[PlaguedByNightmares recurring dreams]] of the moment he found Madison [[NearDeathExperience near-dead]] in the rubble of Boston during Godzilla and Ghidorah's battle.
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* PlaguedByNightmares: The novelization states David has a recurring nightmare almost every night, where he's back at his and David's disastrous attempt to access the Hollow Earth and he tries to change it at the last minute. Also in the novel, Mark's own recurring PastExperienceNightmare of Madison's NearDeathExperience in Boston highlights his overprotectiveness of Madison since the incident and his inability to move past any of his trauma.
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A sequel named ''Film/GodzillaXKongTheNewEmpire'' is set to shoot in 2022, with Wingard returning to the director's chair with both Creator/DanStevens and Fala Chen cast in a role. [[https://deadline.com/2022/06/dune-part-two-moves-to-pre-thanksgiving-2023-godzilla-kong-event-sequel-dated-1235054755/ The film is currently set for a March 15, 2024 release]].
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A sequel named ''Film/GodzillaXKongTheNewEmpire'' is set to shoot was filmed in 2022, with Wingard returning to the director's chair with both and Creator/DanStevens and Fala Chen cast in a role.new roles. [[https://deadline.com/2022/06/dune-part-two-moves-to-pre-thanksgiving-2023-godzilla-kong-event-sequel-dated-1235054755/ The film is currently set for a March 15, 2024 release]].
