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Removing as there's no mention of an oath to be siblings.


* BloodBrothers: Shanks and Buggy. To the point where Shanks swore a mystical vendetta against Shiki on Buggy's behalf.
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* OutDamnedSpot: Even over twenty years later, Shanks and Buggy still sometimes hallucinate dirt under their nails from all the graves they dug in Baterilla.
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* AccidentalTruth: Shanks and Buggy both make a disparaging remark along the lines of the rest of the Roger pirates "spending the last twenty two years drinking and staring at the Rogers's wanted poster", only to later realize that basically is what they did.

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* AccidentalTruth: Shanks and Buggy both make a disparaging remark along the lines of the rest of the Roger pirates "spending the last twenty two years drinking and staring at the Rogers's at Rogers' wanted poster", only to later realize that basically is what they did.
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* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: Crocus, Rayleigh, Shanks, Buggy all qualify, only the last of which isn't in a constant state of DrowningMySorrows.
** Rather than being excited about pirate life and battles even as a child like in canon, Shanks hasn't been fully sober since he was ten due to how traumatized he is about his pirate life. Whereas Shanks laughed off Mihawk's refusal to keep fighting him in canon, this version of Shanks is noticeably bitter and hurt about Mihawk treating him like an invalid.
** In canon, Buggy was a case of FeetOfClay but the story portrays him as someone just as traumatized as Shanks, if not more so. Both of them have a severe case of codependency and at times struggle to function without the other within arm's reach.
** Crocus is an angry drunk who can't move on from his captain's death rather than being dedicated to keeping Laboon alive.
** In the manga, Rayleigh remembers his captain fondly but is overall well-adjusted and happily married. This story portrays him as being as incapable of moving on from Roger as the rest of the crew and sells himself into slavery regularly only to break out once he sobers up.

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* ForgivenButNotForgotten: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] as Whitey Bay certainly lets the Roger pirates know right away when they get on their ship that they won't ''ever'' forgive them for not returning Oden back to them when he was only suppose to stay with them for a year. Instead they dropped him off on Wano right away so they weren't able to properly say goodbye to him.



* GondorCallsForAid: In the AU side-story ''If you were dying on your knees (I would be the one to rescue you),'' when Shanks is captured, Buggy decides to Hoist the Colors, signaling a rallying cry to pirates across the seas to come to his aid in rescuing his friend, with the seas themselves standing witness. In particular, while the Klabautermann of the ''Oro Jackson'' has no crew left, this queen of the seas sails herself off to help 'Blue' save 'Red.'



* ForgivenButNotForgotten: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] as Whitey Bay certainly lets the Roger pirates know right away when they get on their ship that they won't ''ever'' forgive them for not returning Oden back to them when he was only suppose to stay with them for a year. Instead they dropped him off on Wano right away so they weren't able to properly say goodbye to him.
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* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: Despite Buggy being a dangerous combatant even by New World standards and implied to be comparable to Shanks, he was afraid of Belle-mere and avoided going near Cocoyashi as a result, stating he "didn't want to test how retired she was". However, this opens up the question of Arlong and his men could have possibly been a threat to someone who terrifies a New World level pirate.


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** Belle-mere was apparently strong enough that Buggy avoided Cocoyashi Island after she retired there because "he has survival instincts".
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This or these examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected, or something is just an innate aspect of the setting or character that has a logical reason for being present); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details. If you believe a removal was a mistake, please bring it up in the cleanup thread.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Shanks and Buggy are both deeply traumatized from both their time as Roger Pirates and the few years afterwards. Not only were they dragged into a war at ten years old, they were abandoned in the New World by their comrades after Roger died, leaving them to fend for themselves against all the various enemies Roger made. In the end, Buggy has been left deeply paranoid and comes across as cowardly out of a refusal to punch above a certain weight class, while Shanks hasn't been fully sober in twenty years.
** The above combined with the fact the other former Roger Pirates hid that Roger had a son has left both Shanks and Buggy extremely bitter towards their former crew. Buggy more so than Shanks as he was locked in Impel Down for months without anyone even trying to help him but they all rallied to save Ace, whom most of them had never met.
** [[spoiler: Akainu is powerful, but he's still a Logia and still a Devil Fruit user. This means he's vastly more vulnerable to Haki and seastone bullets, both of which Buggy uses to kill Akainu in under a minute. Likewise, Kizaru's ability to teleport and shoot hyperfast lasers does nothing against a Haki-coated knife shoved through his throat.]]
** The one member of the Rogers that Shanks is even remotely polite to is Elena, who lives on a Sky Island. This meant she was LockedOutOfTheLoop ''completely'' compared to the rest of the Rogers who ignored Buggy and Shanks despite being able to keep in contact. That said, Shanks doesn't consider this excuse good enough to exclude her from his anger.
** Ivankov's use of the Horm-Horm Fruit is widely loathed in general by any individuals with ''actual'' professional medical training, and it's established that either he doesn't know the first thing about real medicine and is literally PlayingWithSyringes, or he doesn't ''care'' about the medical code of ethics and is happy to literally gamble with peoples' lives by brute-forcing his hormone "cures" on them.
** In canon, Ivankov's GenderBender powers and his willingness to "aggressively recruit" Newkamas by transforming people against their will is played for laughs. In this fic, it's emphasized that Ivankov's ideology is incredibly creepy, and that forcibly transforming people from one sex to another can have massive psychological detriments to them.
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* ForgivenButNotForgotten: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] as Whitey Bay certainly lets the Roger pirates know right away when they get on their ship that they won't ''ever'' forgive them for not returning Oden back to them when he was only suppose to stay with them for a year.

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* ForgivenButNotForgotten: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] as Whitey Bay certainly lets the Roger pirates know right away when they get on their ship that they won't ''ever'' forgive them for not returning Oden back to them when he was only suppose to stay with them for a year. Instead they dropped him off on Wano right away so they weren't able to properly say goodbye to him.
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* ForgivenButNotForgotten: [[AvertedTrope Averted]] as Whitey Bay certainly lets the Roger pirates know right away when they get on their ship that they won't ''ever'' forgive them for not returning Oden back to them when he was only suppose to stay with them for a year.
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* AdultFear:
** Rouge was in Baterilla and witnessed as toddlers, babies, unborn children and pregnant women were murdered in cold blood. She died not knowing for sure if her son would manage to escape scrutiny.
** A pair of teenagers stranded in a dangerous sea with countless enemies who want them dead and no way to get help.
** The Blackjack pirates spent nearly twenty years not knowing the fate of their captain.
** Buggy and Ace were in a HellholePrison. Their loved ones knew for sure that they would be subjected to physical torture and even possible sexual assault.
*** Adds a extra layer of this for Ace and Shanks once informed that Luffy had broken in Impel Down to rescue him since given Luffy's general naivete he might not even recognize a predator.
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** When Ace passes through Reverse Mountain Crocus recognizes him as Rogue and Roger's son, leading to him alert the other Roger Pirates that their captain had a previously unknown son. This culminates in their interference during Marineford.

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** When Ace passes through Reverse Mountain Crocus recognizes him as Rogue Rouge and Roger's son, leading to him alert the other Roger Pirates that their captain had a previously unknown son. This culminates in their interference during Marineford.
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** Gold D. Roger was this according to Shanks and Buggy even before he gave himself up to the Marines. Apparently, the battles he fought became risker and more dangerous. It soon became clear he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory before his illness claimed his life.

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** Gold Gol D. Roger was this according to Shanks and Buggy even before he gave himself up to the Marines. Apparently, the battles he fought became risker and more dangerous. It soon became clear he wanted to go out in a blaze of glory before his illness claimed his life.

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* RecursiveFanfiction: The ''Fanfic/FlashyUniverse'', which depicts Buggy in a very similar manner to this series, and also has him becoming a surrogate father figure to Luffy and Luffy's future crewmates.


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** Ivankov's use of the Horm-Horm Fruit is widely loathed in general by any individuals with ''actual'' professional medical training, and it's established that either he doesn't know the first thing about real medicine and is literally PlayingWithSyringes, or he doesn't ''care'' about the medical code of ethics and is happy to literally gamble with peoples' lives by brute-forcing his hormone "cures" on them.
** In canon, Ivankov's GenderBender powers and his willingness to "aggressively recruit" Newkamas by transforming people against their will is played for laughs. In this fic, it's emphasized that Ivankov's ideology is incredibly creepy, and that forcibly transforming people from one sex to another can have massive psychological detriments to them.

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* BadMoodAsAnExcuse: The rest of their former crew try to excuse abandoning Shanks and Buggy by insisting "they were grieving" and not at their best. Considering the former cabin boys were ''also'' grieving, it earns them exactly zero slack.



* LameExcuse: The rest of their former crew try to excuse abandoning Shanks and Buggy by insisting "they were grieving" and not at their best. Considering the former cabin boys were ''also'' grieving, it earns them exactly zero slack.

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* RealityEnsues:
** Shanks and Buggy are both deeply traumatized from both their time as Roger Pirates and the few years afterwards. Not only were they dragged into a war at ten years old, they were abandoned in the New World by their comrades after Roger died, leaving them to fend for themselves against all the various enemies Roger made. In the end, Buggy has been left deeply paranoid and comes across as cowardly out of a refusal to punch above a certain weight class, while Shanks hasn't been fully sober in twenty years.
** The above combined with the fact the other former Roger Pirates hid that Roger had a son has left both Shanks and Buggy extremely bitter towards their former crew. Buggy more so than Shanks as he was locked in Impel Down for months without anyone even trying to help him but they all rallied to save Ace, whom most of them had never met.
** [[spoiler: Akainu is powerful, but he's still a Logia and still a Devil Fruit user. This means he's vastly more vulnerable to Haki and seastone bullets, both of which Buggy uses to kill Akainu in under a minute. Likewise, Kizaru's ability to teleport and shoot hyperfast lasers does nothing against a Haki-coated knife shoved through his throat.]]
** The one member of the Rogers that Shanks is even remotely polite to is Elena, who lives on a Sky Island. This meant she was LockedOutOfTheLoop ''completely'' compared to the rest of the Rogers who ignored Buggy and Shanks despite being able to keep in contact. That said, Shanks doesn't consider this excuse good enough to exclude her from his anger.

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* RealityEnsues:
** Shanks and Buggy are both deeply traumatized from both their time as Roger Pirates and the few years afterwards. Not only were they dragged into a war at ten years old, they were abandoned in the New World by their comrades after Roger died, leaving them to fend for themselves against all the various enemies Roger made. In the end, Buggy has been left deeply paranoid and comes across as cowardly out of a refusal to punch above a certain weight class, while Shanks hasn't been fully sober in twenty years.
** The above combined with the fact the other former Roger Pirates hid that Roger had a son has left both Shanks and Buggy extremely bitter towards their former crew. Buggy more so than Shanks as he was locked in Impel Down for months without anyone even trying to help him but they all rallied to save Ace, whom most of them had never met.
** [[spoiler: Akainu is powerful, but he's still a Logia and still a Devil Fruit user. This means he's vastly more vulnerable to Haki and seastone bullets, both of which Buggy uses to kill Akainu in under a minute. Likewise, Kizaru's ability to teleport and shoot hyperfast lasers does nothing against a Haki-coated knife shoved through his throat.]]
** The one member of the Rogers that Shanks is even remotely polite to is Elena, who lives on a Sky Island. This meant she was LockedOutOfTheLoop ''completely'' compared to the rest of the Rogers who ignored Buggy and Shanks despite being able to keep in contact. That said, Shanks doesn't consider this excuse good enough to exclude her from his anger.


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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Shanks and Buggy are both deeply traumatized from both their time as Roger Pirates and the few years afterwards. Not only were they dragged into a war at ten years old, they were abandoned in the New World by their comrades after Roger died, leaving them to fend for themselves against all the various enemies Roger made. In the end, Buggy has been left deeply paranoid and comes across as cowardly out of a refusal to punch above a certain weight class, while Shanks hasn't been fully sober in twenty years.
** The above combined with the fact the other former Roger Pirates hid that Roger had a son has left both Shanks and Buggy extremely bitter towards their former crew. Buggy more so than Shanks as he was locked in Impel Down for months without anyone even trying to help him but they all rallied to save Ace, whom most of them had never met.
** [[spoiler: Akainu is powerful, but he's still a Logia and still a Devil Fruit user. This means he's vastly more vulnerable to Haki and seastone bullets, both of which Buggy uses to kill Akainu in under a minute. Likewise, Kizaru's ability to teleport and shoot hyperfast lasers does nothing against a Haki-coated knife shoved through his throat.]]
** The one member of the Rogers that Shanks is even remotely polite to is Elena, who lives on a Sky Island. This meant she was LockedOutOfTheLoop ''completely'' compared to the rest of the Rogers who ignored Buggy and Shanks despite being able to keep in contact. That said, Shanks doesn't consider this excuse good enough to exclude her from his anger.
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** Crocus seems to be the only pirate from the old days to realize there's anything more to the Pirate Code than mere traditions. It's part of why he doesn't understand that Buggy, as a true son of the sea and Davy Jones, would ''never'' retire from piracy.

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** Crocus seems to be the only pirate from the old days to not realize there's anything more to the Pirate Code than mere traditions. It's part of why he doesn't understand that Buggy, as a true son of the sea and Davy Jones, would ''never'' retire from piracy.
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** A ship sailing a black triangle flag at half mast is one in mourning and any child of the sea is obligated to let them pass.
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* DueToTheDead: [[ScoundrelCode The Pirate Code]] has two rules regarding dead pirates.
** First, they're to be buried at sea, aka returned to Davy Jones. Knowingly burying a pirate on land is an insult worth killing over.
** Second, one who learns of a pirate's death is honorbound to inform their crew via a formal ceremony.


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* ScoundrelCode: The pirate code, which is mostly only followed by members of the older generation or those trained by them. New pirates such as Ace don't follow the code out of ignorance. Some examples of the code include:
** A child of the sea (pirate) is to be buried at sea so they can be returned to Davy Jones.
** Claiming someone's life before Davy Jones means dedicating yourself to killing them. Only one person may claim someone's life and one must fulfill their claim before making a new one.
** One must always ask permission before boarding another pirate vessel, preferably from the captain. Boarding without getting official permission is seen as an attack.
** While not shown, there's official ways to welcome a new crewmember to the ship.
** Anyone who learns of an allied pirate's death is obligated to inform said pirate's crew with a formal ceremony known as "the rumor on the waves".

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* MemeticBadass: Portgas D. Rouge continues to terrify despite being dead for twenty years.

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* MemeticBadass: InUniverse. Portgas D. Rouge continues to terrify despite being dead for twenty years.


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* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: Shanks, Buggy, and the Blackjack pirates all denounce the remaining Rogers pirates for their failures towards them. Given how formal all of them are, it's clear that such declarations are very final.
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* LockedOutOfTheLoop:
** Neither Shanks nor Buggy were informed that Roger had a son due to the rest of their crew not leaving them any way to contact them. They each only found out after meeting the young man themselves.
** Crocus seems to be the only pirate from the old days to realize there's anything more to the Pirate Code than mere traditions. It's part of why he doesn't understand that Buggy, as a true son of the sea and Davy Jones, would ''never'' retire from piracy.

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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Roger was deeply apologetic towards Buggy and Shanks after the Edd War once he realized what it was like for them.

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Roger was deeply apologetic towards Buggy and Shanks after the Edd War once he realized what it was like for them.


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** Crocus' pov chapter shows that he was so drunk that he thought he was hallucinating when Buggy showed up on his doorstep. He's completely horrified to realize it was real and that he failed as both a doctor and a nakama.
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** First, breaking the pirate code is a huge deal among the older pirates and those who know about it, even if one isn't a pirate themselves. Despite finding it incredibly rude, they do excuse the ignorance of the younger generations due to never learning about it.
** One of them is there's a certain "proper" way to invite new crewmates on your ship. Unsurprisingly, that was Luffy's favorite one to learn.

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** First, breaking the pirate code is a huge deal among the older pirates and those who know about it, even if one isn't a pirate themselves. Despite finding it incredibly rude, they do excuse the ignorance of the younger generations due to never properly learning about it.
** One of them is there's includes a certain "proper" way to invite new crewmates on your ship. Unsurprisingly, that was Luffy's favorite one to learn.
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** One of them is there's a certain "proper" way to invite new crewmates on your ship. Unsurprisingly, that was Luffy's favorite one to learn.

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* SuperDoc: The only reason Luffy survived Ivankov's so called "miracle cure" is due to Law's devil fruit. Not only does he have a medical degree but he knows exactly how to use it properly much to the relief of the other doctors who are sick and tired of Ivankov's ''appalling'' use of his devil fruit. That's actually how he first endears himself to Shanks so quickly after he saved Luffy's life is being a real ''competent'' doctor for once.

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* SuperDoc: The only reason Luffy survived Ivankov's so called "miracle cure" is due to Law's devil fruit. Not only does he have a medical degree but he knows exactly how to use it properly much to the relief of the other doctors who are sick and tired of Ivankov's ''appalling'' use of his devil fruit. That's actually how he first endears himself to Shanks so quickly after he saved Luffy's life is being a real live ''competent'' doctor for once.doctor.


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* WorldBuilding: Considering this is a ''Manga/OnePiece'' fic, it's quite impressive the author manages to add quite a bit more in a little something called the Pirate Code.
** First, breaking the pirate code is a huge deal among the older pirates and those who know about it, even if one isn't a pirate themselves. Despite finding it incredibly rude, they do excuse the ignorance of the younger generations due to never learning about it.
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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14884211/chapters/34469111 Watashitachi wa Roger kaizoku desu (we still stand proud)]]'' is a
''Manga/OnePiece'' ForWantOfANail Fic, written by [[https://archiveofourown.org/users/stereden/pseuds/stereden stereden]] in which the Roger Pirates are aware of who Portgas D. Ace is and decide to intervene at Marineford. As a result of them appearing, other matters come out, including the problem of the Roger Pirates virtually abandoning their former cabin boys, the Yonko Red Hair Shanks, and Buggy the Clown.

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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/14884211/chapters/34469111 Watashitachi wa Roger kaizoku desu (we still stand proud)]]'' is a
a ''Manga/OnePiece'' ForWantOfANail Fic, written by [[https://archiveofourown.org/users/stereden/pseuds/stereden stereden]] in which the Roger Pirates are aware of who Portgas D. Ace is and decide to intervene at Marineford. As a result of them appearing, other matters come out, including the problem of the Roger Pirates virtually abandoning their former cabin boys, the Yonko Red Hair Shanks, and Buggy the Clown.
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