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** Similar to ''Funhouse Mirror'', ''Fanfic/KillTheLights' deconstructs the RonTheDeathEater trope by having the class deal with [[ShadowArchetype shadow archetypes]] in the form of students from a class Lila transferred to, each one representing how they're commonly characterized in salt fic.
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** Similar to ''Funhouse Mirror'', ''Fanfic/KillTheLights' ''Fanfic/KillTheLights'' deconstructs the RonTheDeathEater trope by having the class deal with [[ShadowArchetype shadow archetypes]] in the form of students from a class Lila transferred to, each one representing how they're commonly characterized in salt fic.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/51885442/chapters/131192278 Open My Eyes]]'' effectively tears apart the notion that Adrien would be better off believing that his father was a hero instead of the villain he'd been fighting for years on several levels:
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/51885442/chapters/131192278 Open My Eyes]]'' ''Fanfic/OpenMyEyes'' effectively tears apart the notion that Adrien would be better off believing that his father was a hero instead of the villain he'd been fighting for years on several levels:
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** Similar to ''Funhouse Mirror'', ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/35981173/chapters/89696758 you turned out to be the best thing i never had]]'' ''Fanfic/KillTheLights' deconstructs the RonTheDeathEater trope by having the class deal with [[ShadowArchetype shadow archetypes]] in the form of students from a class Lila transferred to, each one representing how they're commonly characterized in salt fic.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/51885442/chapters/131192278 Open My Eyes]]'' effectively tears apart the notion that Adrien would be better off believing that his father was a hero instead of the villain he'd been fighting for years on several levels:
** Despite being told that his father heroically gave his life to defeat Monarch, Adrien cannot stop thinking about how cold and controlling the man had been towards him his entire life. Unfortunately, because he believes that his father sacrificed his life to save the world, he feels that he does not have the right to resent him, so he maintains a front of loving and admiring his father while being deeply conflicted about it on the inside.
** It is also shown that the deception has deeply affected his self confidence on both sides of the mask. As Chat Noir, he admits to Ladybug that he believes that Gabriel was a better hero than him for defeating Monarch while he was absent from the final battle. As Adrien, he keeps trying different activities at school in hopes of finding something he’s good enough at to be able to live up to his father’s supposed genius, only to grow increasingly frustrated and despondent when he fails to become an instant expert at any of them.
** As anyone could have guessed, Lila (here operating under the alias Cerise) proves that she would absolutely use her knowledge of Monarch’s true identity to sabotage Ladybug, doing so by using the Butterfly Miraculous to send messages to both her and Chat Noir, taunting them over the secrets Ladybug is keeping from her partner. This forces her to tell Chat Noir the truth, breaking his trust in her and driving a wedge between the two of them, just as their new enemy had planned.
** Marinette’s willingness to keep secrets from Adrien just to spare his feelings is similarly picked apart. When she confronts Chat Noir as Ladybug over him cataclyming Gabriel's memorial statue, she tries to defend her decisions by claiming that learning that his father was Monarch would destroy Adrien, and she refused to let that happen on account of her love for him, subsequently revealing her secret identity. Unfortunately, Chat declares that Gabriel was his father and that he had the right to know what really happened to him, revealing himself to be Adrien and effectively tearing Marinette’s argument apart. To make matters worse, now Adrien knows that his own girlfriend has been keeping secrets about his family from him, further damaging their relationship. Ultimately, all Marinette’s efforts to shield Adrien from the truth did was create more problems in the long run.
** Even hiding his true nature as a sentibeing created by the Peacock Miraculous from him proves to be a disastrous mistake. When Adrien punches a metal window pane out of rage and frustration, he accidentally damages the rings containing his amok, putting him in a painful near-death state and would have ultimately killed him if Nathalie hadn’t had the rings repaired. Later, after stealing the Peacock Miraculous to interrogate Duusu, he discovers the amoks in his and Felix’s rings and naturally assumes that his cousin had secretly created two new sentimonsters. Felix is forced to use Adrien’s rings to make him return the brooch before he snaps them both out of existence, leading to Adrien making yet another shocking discovery under less than ideal circumstances.
** On a more lighthearted note, the story also deconstructs the idea that Adrien simply cannot handle the truth. He spends most of the fic is a very bad mental state, as would just about anyone in his position. However, the constant love and support of his friends and family sees him through it all, and by the end he is in a much better place than he was even before he learned the truth. Granted it helps that the only time the new butterfly villain tries to akumatize him is when he’s surrounded by heroes ready to stop it, but it is nonetheless shown that a proper and sincere support system is far more effective than some pretty lies.
** Despite being told that his father heroically gave his life to defeat Monarch, Adrien cannot stop thinking about how cold and controlling the man had been towards him his entire life. Unfortunately, because he believes that his father sacrificed his life to save the world, he feels that he does not have the right to resent him, so he maintains a front of loving and admiring his father while being deeply conflicted about it on the inside.
** It is also shown that the deception has deeply affected his self confidence on both sides of the mask. As Chat Noir, he admits to Ladybug that he believes that Gabriel was a better hero than him for defeating Monarch while he was absent from the final battle. As Adrien, he keeps trying different activities at school in hopes of finding something he’s good enough at to be able to live up to his father’s supposed genius, only to grow increasingly frustrated and despondent when he fails to become an instant expert at any of them.
** As anyone could have guessed, Lila (here operating under the alias Cerise) proves that she would absolutely use her knowledge of Monarch’s true identity to sabotage Ladybug, doing so by using the Butterfly Miraculous to send messages to both her and Chat Noir, taunting them over the secrets Ladybug is keeping from her partner. This forces her to tell Chat Noir the truth, breaking his trust in her and driving a wedge between the two of them, just as their new enemy had planned.
** Marinette’s willingness to keep secrets from Adrien just to spare his feelings is similarly picked apart. When she confronts Chat Noir as Ladybug over him cataclyming Gabriel's memorial statue, she tries to defend her decisions by claiming that learning that his father was Monarch would destroy Adrien, and she refused to let that happen on account of her love for him, subsequently revealing her secret identity. Unfortunately, Chat declares that Gabriel was his father and that he had the right to know what really happened to him, revealing himself to be Adrien and effectively tearing Marinette’s argument apart. To make matters worse, now Adrien knows that his own girlfriend has been keeping secrets about his family from him, further damaging their relationship. Ultimately, all Marinette’s efforts to shield Adrien from the truth did was create more problems in the long run.
** Even hiding his true nature as a sentibeing created by the Peacock Miraculous from him proves to be a disastrous mistake. When Adrien punches a metal window pane out of rage and frustration, he accidentally damages the rings containing his amok, putting him in a painful near-death state and would have ultimately killed him if Nathalie hadn’t had the rings repaired. Later, after stealing the Peacock Miraculous to interrogate Duusu, he discovers the amoks in his and Felix’s rings and naturally assumes that his cousin had secretly created two new sentimonsters. Felix is forced to use Adrien’s rings to make him return the brooch before he snaps them both out of existence, leading to Adrien making yet another shocking discovery under less than ideal circumstances.
** On a more lighthearted note, the story also deconstructs the idea that Adrien simply cannot handle the truth. He spends most of the fic is a very bad mental state, as would just about anyone in his position. However, the constant love and support of his friends and family sees him through it all, and by the end he is in a much better place than he was even before he learned the truth. Granted it helps that the only time the new butterfly villain tries to akumatize him is when he’s surrounded by heroes ready to stop it, but it is nonetheless shown that a proper and sincere support system is far more effective than some pretty lies.
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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': This one deconstructs Ladybug's tendency to keep others LockedOutOfTheLoop. While the rule on knowing each other's identities is understandable and important, her tendency to keep everyone out of the loop on ''literally everything'' does more harm than good, and results is some ''very'' detrimental PoorCommunicationKills. And the whole conflict of this fic [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could've been avoided]] [[ForWantOfANail if she'd just talked to Chat Noir.]]
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* ''Fanfic/LiesOfAttrition'': This one deconstructs Ladybug's tendency to keep others LockedOutOfTheLoop. While the rule on knowing each other's identities is understandable and important, her tendency to keep everyone out of the loop on ''literally everything'' does more harm than good, and results is some ''very'' detrimental PoorCommunicationKills. And the whole conflict of this fic [[CouldHaveAvoidedThisPlot could've been avoided]] [[ForWantOfANail avoided if she'd just talked to Chat Noir.]]
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** The idea that Marinette is the ''only character'' who needs to learn anything is heavily criticized through Adrien and Future!Alix. Future!Alix reveals that as Bunnyx, she has seen several {{Bad Future}}s; what she [[SelectiveObliviousness refuses to acknowledge]] is that a common thread in these timelines is Adrien's failure to develop. Either he pulls a FaceHeelTurn when he [[IRejectYourReality rejects the reality]] that his father is a supervillain, or he develops a toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship with Marinette, expecting her to put all the effort into making their marriage work. Future Alix insists that he ''can't'' be expected to change, ignoring the fact that Adrien actually ''does'' go through positive CharacterDevelopment in this work as a result of [[ForWantOfANail what's changed]].
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** The idea that Marinette is the ''only character'' who needs to learn anything is heavily criticized through Adrien and Future!Alix. Future!Alix reveals that as Bunnyx, she has seen several {{Bad Future}}s; what she [[SelectiveObliviousness refuses to acknowledge]] is that a common thread in these timelines is Adrien's failure to develop. Either he pulls a FaceHeelTurn when he [[IRejectYourReality rejects the reality]] that his father is a supervillain, or he develops a toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship with Marinette, expecting her to put all the effort into making their marriage work. Future Alix insists that he ''can't'' be expected to change, ignoring the fact that Adrien actually ''does'' go through positive CharacterDevelopment in this work as a result of [[ForWantOfANail what's changed]].changed.
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** Viceroy is much more clever and cautious than Hawkmoth. Rather than openly terrorizing Paris, Viceroy conducts a clandestine operation that relies upon gathering information with his butterflies and {{blackmail}}ing the corrupt "elite". This also entails working ''with'' others rather than simply using them as pawns. Tom also has significantly higher standards than Gabriel, as he rather ''dislikes'' the concept of getting children involved and only akumatizes [[spoiler:Adrien into Caspases]] out of duress and with their explicit consent.
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** Miss Bustier's class is usually depicted as turning on Marinette at the drop of a hat despite their friendship to flock to Lila for being more interesting, they are depicted here as being caught between the two's accusations of lying and bullying and not knowing who to believe, though Nathaniel and Juleka both reveal suspicions about Lila due to cracks in her facade when she thought they weren't looking. When they are shown evidence of Lila's true character, all of them immediately throw themselves behind the anti-Lila effort.
** Miss Bustier, like Marinette's classmates, is often depicted as believing Lila's lies and happily punishing Marinette for the smallest offenses without giving her the chance to explain herself, here Bustier believes Lila's lies without checking them because she genuinely thinks all her students are trustworthy kids, can't imagine that somebody would feign disabilities to get preferential treatment, and in general, her desire to be seen as a CoolTeacher makes her act unprofessional at times. She's also horrified when she learns how much she screwed up by being so trusting of Lila and not trusting enough of Marinette, who she considers her best student.
** Miss Bustier, like Marinette's classmates, is often depicted as believing Lila's lies and happily punishing Marinette for the smallest offenses without giving her the chance to explain herself, here Bustier believes Lila's lies without checking them because she genuinely thinks all her students are trustworthy kids, can't imagine that somebody would feign disabilities to get preferential treatment, and in general, her desire to be seen as a CoolTeacher makes her act unprofessional at times. She's also horrified when she learns how much she screwed up by being so trusting of Lila and not trusting enough of Marinette, who she considers her best student.
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** Miss Bustier's class is usually depicted as turning on Marinette at the drop of a hat despite their friendship to flock to Lila for being more interesting, they interesting. They are depicted here as being caught between the two's accusations of lying and bullying and not knowing who to believe, though Nathaniel and Juleka both reveal suspicions about Lila due to cracks in her facade when she thought they weren't looking. When they are shown evidence of Lila's true character, all of them immediately throw themselves behind the anti-Lila effort.
** Miss Bustier, like Marinette's classmates, is often depicted as believing Lila's lies and happily punishing Marinette for the smallest offenses without giving her the chance to explainherself, here herself. Here, Bustier believes Lila's lies without checking them because she genuinely thinks all her students are trustworthy kids, can't imagine that somebody would feign disabilities to get preferential treatment, and in general, her desire to be seen as a CoolTeacher makes her act unprofessional at times. She's also horrified when she learns how much she screwed up by being so trusting of Lila and not trusting enough of Marinette, who she considers her best student.
** Miss Bustier, like Marinette's classmates, is often depicted as believing Lila's lies and happily punishing Marinette for the smallest offenses without giving her the chance to explain
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* The ''Webcomic/DadVillainAU'' takes a sledgehammer to the notion that Gabriel's reign of terror as Hawkmoth was in any way, shape or form justified by having him [[RoleSwapAU swap roles]] with Tom:
** The whole AlternateUniverse is created in the first place by [[TheBadGuyWins Gabriel winning]]... but his Wish doesn't focus on saving Emelie. Instead, he prioritizes screwing over Ladybug by Wishing that the magical backlash from using the broken Peacock Pin is redirected onto her and her loved ones. When his [[EvilIsPetty petty revenge]] is complicated by Nooroo escaping the Agreste Manor and the rise of Viceroy, Gabriel continues to [[SkewedPriorities prioritize]] his vendetta against the former superheroine over Emelie's safety and all other concerns, rejecting [[TakeAThirdOption any alternatives]].
** Tom, in direct contrast to Gabriel, isn't motivated solely by the desire to avenge his wife. Protecting ''Marinette'' is also his top priority. While his grief over losing Sabine led him to [[DrowningMySorrows drown his sorrows]] early on, he has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment upon seeing how this has impacted his daughter and works hard to ensure her happiness -- something Gabriel never bothered with. In fact, it's emphasized that Gabriel doesn't even view his son as a ''person'', thanks to ExactWords ensuring that aside from Gabriel himself, the only ones who [[RippleEffectProofMemory can remember the original timeline]] are those he doesn't consider to be "people".
** The whole AlternateUniverse is created in the first place by [[TheBadGuyWins Gabriel winning]]... but his Wish doesn't focus on saving Emelie. Instead, he prioritizes screwing over Ladybug by Wishing that the magical backlash from using the broken Peacock Pin is redirected onto her and her loved ones. When his [[EvilIsPetty petty revenge]] is complicated by Nooroo escaping the Agreste Manor and the rise of Viceroy, Gabriel continues to [[SkewedPriorities prioritize]] his vendetta against the former superheroine over Emelie's safety and all other concerns, rejecting [[TakeAThirdOption any alternatives]].
** Tom, in direct contrast to Gabriel, isn't motivated solely by the desire to avenge his wife. Protecting ''Marinette'' is also his top priority. While his grief over losing Sabine led him to [[DrowningMySorrows drown his sorrows]] early on, he has a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment upon seeing how this has impacted his daughter and works hard to ensure her happiness -- something Gabriel never bothered with. In fact, it's emphasized that Gabriel doesn't even view his son as a ''person'', thanks to ExactWords ensuring that aside from Gabriel himself, the only ones who [[RippleEffectProofMemory can remember the original timeline]] are those he doesn't consider to be "people".
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* ''Fanfic/BabyBoom'': The fic deconstructs the "AliensMadeThemDoIt and true love blooms" plot by expanding it to truly ''ridiculous'' levels. With literally the entire city affected, not everyone got paired up with someone they liked, and even if they did, the experience was still traumatizing. Some couples do become permanent, but it's made pretty clear that it's more ''in spite'' of what happened rather than because of it.
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* ''Fanfic/BabyBoom'': ''Fanfic/BabyBoomShawnaCanon'': The fic deconstructs the "AliensMadeThemDoIt and true love blooms" plot by expanding it to truly ''ridiculous'' levels. With literally the entire city affected, not everyone got paired up with someone they liked, and even if they did, the experience was still traumatizing. Some couples do become permanent, but it's made pretty clear that it's more ''in spite'' of what happened rather than because of it.
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** The WorldHealingWave is also deconstructed; since Ladybug can repair the damage after every fight, Chat Noir sees no problem with harassing Ladybug during battles rather than focusing on the akuma, shrugging off the harm that's caused in the meantime as unimportant because Ladybug will fix everything in the end and it will be like it never happened. By contrast, the responsiblity of using Miraculous Cure takes a severe emotional toll on Ladybug, who often faces situations where she doesn't have time to save everyone and has to choose who to rescue, knowing those she can't help will have to live with the memory of what happened after she fixes the physical damage. It's also pointed out that, given how destructive many akuma are, Paris is deeply dependant on Ladybug's Miraculous Cure, to the point where Chat is able to effectively take the entire city hostage by stealing Ladybug's yo-yo while a particularly destructive akuma is on a rampage.
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** The WorldHealingWave is also deconstructed; since Ladybug can repair the damage after every fight, Chat Noir sees no problem with harassing Ladybug during battles rather than focusing on the akuma, shrugging off the harm that's caused in the meantime as unimportant because Ladybug will fix everything in the end and it will be like it never happened. By contrast, the responsiblity of using Miraculous Cure takes a severe emotional toll on Ladybug, who often faces situations where she doesn't have time to save everyone and has to choose who to rescue, knowing those she can't help will have to live with the memory of what happened after she fixes the physical damage. It's also pointed out that, given how destructive many akuma are, Paris is deeply dependant dependent on Ladybug's Miraculous Cure, to the point where Chat is able to effectively take the entire city hostage by stealing Ladybug's yo-yo while a particularly destructive akuma is on a rampage.
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** A more positive version of this trope occurs regarding the FandomSpecificPlot of Marinette being childhood friends with Nino and Kim. While most fics include this but keep the canon status quo (usually by stating that they drifted apart), here it has positive long-term effects: being friends with the gung-ho Kim has made Marinette more assetive towards others (especially Chloé) than she originally was in canon, while being friends with the sweet Marinette has made Kim kinder and friendlier towards his classmates and others (which directly leads to him getting chosen to wield the Ladybug here).
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** A more positive version of this trope occurs regarding the FandomSpecificPlot of Marinette being childhood friends with Nino and Kim. While most fics include this but keep the canon status quo (usually by stating that they drifted apart), here it has positive long-term effects: being friends with the gung-ho Kim has made Marinette more assetive assertive towards others (especially Chloé) than she originally was in canon, while being friends with the sweet Marinette has made Kim kinder and friendlier towards his classmates and others (which directly leads to him getting chosen to wield the Ladybug here).
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* ''Fanfic/MiraculousTalesOfScarletBeetleAndIkatiBlack'': In canon, no one really bats an eye at Sabrina's lopsided, toxic friendship with Chloé. Here, everyone's concerned about Sabrina to some extent, it's mentioned that there've been attempts in the past to separate them, and Alya makes it her personal mission to help Sabrina get out from under the blonde girl's thumb.
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** In canon, no one really bats an eye at Sabrina's lopsided, toxic friendship with Chloé. Here, everyone's concerned about Sabrina to some extent, it's mentioned that there've been attempts in the past to separate them, and Alya makes it her personal mission to help Sabrina get out from under the blonde girl'sthumb.thumb.
** A more positive version of this trope occurs regarding the FandomSpecificPlot of Marinette being childhood friends with Nino and Kim. While most fics include this but keep the canon status quo (usually by stating that they drifted apart), here it has positive long-term effects: being friends with the gung-ho Kim has made Marinette more assetive towards others (especially Chloé) than she originally was in canon, while being friends with the sweet Marinette has made Kim kinder and friendlier towards his classmates and others (which directly leads to him getting chosen to wield the Ladybug here).
** In canon, no one really bats an eye at Sabrina's lopsided, toxic friendship with Chloé. Here, everyone's concerned about Sabrina to some extent, it's mentioned that there've been attempts in the past to separate them, and Alya makes it her personal mission to help Sabrina get out from under the blonde girl's
** A more positive version of this trope occurs regarding the FandomSpecificPlot of Marinette being childhood friends with Nino and Kim. While most fics include this but keep the canon status quo (usually by stating that they drifted apart), here it has positive long-term effects: being friends with the gung-ho Kim has made Marinette more assetive towards others (especially Chloé) than she originally was in canon, while being friends with the sweet Marinette has made Kim kinder and friendlier towards his classmates and others (which directly leads to him getting chosen to wield the Ladybug here).
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33994849/chapters/84549145 Watch Me Burn]]'' targets Adrien and Mariette's relationship in Chat Blanc and the love square in general, pointing out how Adrien only became interested in a relationship with Marinette after learning that she was Ladybug. Thus, his "love" for Marinette is realy just an extension of his [[EntitledToHaveYou obsession with her alter ego]]. It's also pointed out how selfish it was for him to become a SecretSecretKeeper rather than admitting he'd learned her identity, showing how it gives him a position of power in their relationship that encourages his existing disrespect for Ladybug's feelings. Between this and Marinette's GibberishOfLove making her struggle to enforce boundaries, the relationship quickly turns abusive, with Adrien leveraging his knowledge to make Marinette miserable in both of her identities while silently laughing at her discomfort and anticipating her mortification when she learns that Chat Noir's escalating sexual harassment was really coming from her "loving" boyfriend all along.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33994849/chapters/84549145 Watch Me Burn]]'' targets Adrien and Mariette's relationship in Chat Blanc and the love square in general, pointing out how Adrien only became interested in a relationship with Marinette after learning that she was Ladybug. Thus, his "love" for Marinette is realy really just an extension of his [[EntitledToHaveYou obsession with her alter ego]]. It's also pointed out how selfish it was for him to become a SecretSecretKeeper rather than admitting he'd learned her identity, showing how it gives him a position of power in their relationship that encourages his existing disrespect for Ladybug's feelings. Between this and Marinette's GibberishOfLove making her struggle to enforce boundaries, the relationship quickly turns abusive, with Adrien leveraging his knowledge to make Marinette miserable in both of her identities while silently laughing at her discomfort and anticipating her mortification when she learns that Chat Noir's escalating sexual harassment was really coming from her "loving" boyfriend all along.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/33994849/chapters/84549145 Watch Me Burn]]'' targets Adrien and Mariette's relationship in Chat Blanc and the love square in general, pointing out how Adrien only became interested in a relationship with Marinette after learning that she was Ladybug. Thus, his "love" for Marinette is realy just an extension of his [[EntitledToHaveYou obsession with her alter ego]]. It's also pointed out how selfish it was for him to become a SecretSecretKeeper rather than admitting he'd learned her identity, showing how it gives him a position of power in their relationship that encourages his existing disrespect for Ladybug's feelings. Between this and Marinette's GibberishOfLove making her struggle to enforce boundaries, the relationship quickly turns abusive, with Adrien leveraging his knowledge to make Marinette miserable in both of her identities while silently laughing at her discomfort and anticipating her mortification when she learns that Chat Noir's escalating sexual harassment was really coming from her "loving" boyfriend all along.
** The WorldHealingWave is also deconstructed; since Ladybug can repair the damage after every fight, Chat Noir sees no problem with harassing Ladybug during battles rather than focusing on the akuma, shrugging off the harm that's caused in the meantime as unimportant because Ladybug will fix everything in the end and it will be like it never happened. By contrast, the responsiblity of using Miraculous Cure takes a severe emotional toll on Ladybug, who often faces situations where she doesn't have time to save everyone and has to choose who to rescue, knowing those she can't help will have to live with the memory of what happened after she fixes the physical damage. It's also pointed out that, given how destructive many akuma are, Paris is deeply dependant on Ladybug's Miraculous Cure, to the point where Chat is able to effectively take the entire city hostage by stealing Ladybug's yo-yo while a particularly destructive akuma is on a rampage.
** The WorldHealingWave is also deconstructed; since Ladybug can repair the damage after every fight, Chat Noir sees no problem with harassing Ladybug during battles rather than focusing on the akuma, shrugging off the harm that's caused in the meantime as unimportant because Ladybug will fix everything in the end and it will be like it never happened. By contrast, the responsiblity of using Miraculous Cure takes a severe emotional toll on Ladybug, who often faces situations where she doesn't have time to save everyone and has to choose who to rescue, knowing those she can't help will have to live with the memory of what happened after she fixes the physical damage. It's also pointed out that, given how destructive many akuma are, Paris is deeply dependant on Ladybug's Miraculous Cure, to the point where Chat is able to effectively take the entire city hostage by stealing Ladybug's yo-yo while a particularly destructive akuma is on a rampage.
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** Adrien's friendship with Chloe is also deconstructed. Marinette reveals to Chat Noir that she didn't tell Adrien that Lila threatened her because she honestly thought Adrien wouldn't really ''care'', given how he regularly defends Chloe despite how she constantly bullies others, ''especially'' Marinette.
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** Adrien's friendship with Chloe Chloé is also deconstructed. Marinette reveals to Chat Noir that she didn't tell Adrien that Lila threatened her because she honestly thought Adrien wouldn't really ''care'', given how he regularly defends Chloe Chloé despite how she constantly bullies others, ''especially'' Marinette.
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** KarmaHoudiniWarranty is deconstructed through how various characters deal with theirs expiring. Some, like Lila, have [[CrazyPrepared actually prepared]] to deal with things going wrong and are able to shield themselves from the full karmic backlash. Others, like Chloe and Juleka, recognize their mistakes and are able to mitigate the effects through sincerely repenting and accepting their respective punishments. Then there's cases like Adrien and Alya, who are in [[NeverMyFault complete denial]] and [[DiggingYourselfDeeper ultimately make things]] worse for themselves.
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** KarmaHoudiniWarranty is deconstructed through how various characters deal with theirs expiring. Some, like Lila, have [[CrazyPrepared actually prepared]] to deal with things going wrong and are able to shield themselves from the full karmic backlash. Others, like Chloe Chloé and Juleka, recognize their mistakes and are able to mitigate the effects through sincerely repenting and accepting their respective punishments. Then there's there are cases like Adrien and Alya, who are in [[NeverMyFault complete denial]] and [[DiggingYourselfDeeper ultimately make things]] worse for themselves.
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** The series also picks apart the idea that someone ''has'' to [[EasilyForgiven forgive those who have wronged them]] and help them out. Marinette was constantly pressured to TurnTheOtherCheek when dealing with Chloe, Lila, and other issues; her attempts to follow this advice just led to her being [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity taken advantage of]] while those who hurt her never learned anything. Things only improve when she [[GrewASpine puts her foot down]] and cuts them out of her life, finding friends who ''don't'' take advantage of her... and the only ones she forgives are the ones who actually make an effort to change their ways.
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** The series also picks apart the idea that someone ''has'' to [[EasilyForgiven forgive those who have wronged them]] and help them out. Marinette was constantly pressured to TurnTheOtherCheek when dealing with Chloe, Chloé, Lila, and other issues; her attempts to follow this advice just led to her being [[TakingAdvantageOfGenerosity taken advantage of]] while those who hurt her never learned anything. Things only improve when she [[GrewASpine puts her foot down]] and cuts them out of her life, finding friends who ''don't'' take advantage of her... and the only ones she forgives are the ones who actually make an effort to change their ways.
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** Ms. Bustier's preference for passive-aggressively pressuring her "good" students to {{Easily Forgive|n}} their bullies and tormentors while refusing to punish said bullies means that Lila isn't concerned about being exposed. When the class finally confronts her, she points out that their teacher will punish ''them'' instead of her, and she'll get coddled in the same way as Chloe.
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** Ms. Bustier's preference for passive-aggressively pressuring her "good" students to {{Easily Forgive|n}} their bullies and tormentors while refusing to punish said bullies means that Lila isn't concerned about being exposed. When the class finally confronts her, she points out that their teacher will punish ''them'' instead of her, and she'll get coddled in the same way as Chloe.Chloé.
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** The idea that Marinette is the ''only character'' who needs to learn anything is heavily criticized through Adrien and Future!Alix. Future!Alix reveals that as Bunnyx, she has seen several {{Bad Future}}s; what she [[SelectiveObliviousness refuses to acknowledge]] is that a common thread in these timelines is Adrien's failure to develop. Either he pulls a FaceHeelTurn when he [[IRejectYourReality rejects the reality]] that his father is a supervillain, or he develops a toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship with Marinette, expecting her to put all the effort into making their marriage work. Future!Alix insists that he ''can't'' be expected to change, ignoring the fact that Adrien actually ''does'' go through positive CharacterDevelopment in this work as a result of [[ForWantOfANail what's changed]].
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** The idea that Marinette is the ''only character'' who needs to learn anything is heavily criticized through Adrien and Future!Alix. Future!Alix reveals that as Bunnyx, she has seen several {{Bad Future}}s; what she [[SelectiveObliviousness refuses to acknowledge]] is that a common thread in these timelines is Adrien's failure to develop. Either he pulls a FaceHeelTurn when he [[IRejectYourReality rejects the reality]] that his father is a supervillain, or he develops a toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship with Marinette, expecting her to put all the effort into making their marriage work. Future!Alix Future Alix insists that he ''can't'' be expected to change, ignoring the fact that Adrien actually ''does'' go through positive CharacterDevelopment in this work as a result of [[ForWantOfANail what's changed]].
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** Adrien's tendency to defend Chloe's actions also gets deconstructed. Since Adrien has known her [[ChildhoodFriends since they were kids]], he recalls her as a fellow LonelyRichKid who just wanted [[ParentalNeglect her mother's attention]]. This leaves him convinced that he's the only one who really ''knows'' her, leading him to lecture her victims about how they should be more mindful of her feelings. After her KarmaHoudiniWarranty runs out, his stubborn defense of her only serves to irritate Marinette and his peers... and eventually, he realizes ''he'' was the one blinding himself to aspects of her character he didn't want to acknowledge.
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** Adrien's tendency to defend Chloe's Chloé's actions also gets deconstructed. Since Adrien has known her [[ChildhoodFriends since they were kids]], he recalls her as a fellow LonelyRichKid who just wanted [[ParentalNeglect her mother's attention]]. This leaves him convinced that he's the only one who really ''knows'' her, leading him to lecture her victims about how they should be more mindful of her feelings. After her KarmaHoudiniWarranty runs out, his stubborn defense of her only serves to irritate Marinette and his peers... and eventually, he realizes ''he'' was the one blinding himself to aspects of her character he didn't want to acknowledge.
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** The bullying and [[EntitledBastard extreme entitlement]] shown by the majority of the class is blamed on Miss Bustier's teaching methods. Since she [[KarmaHoudini refuses to punish bullies]], preaching instead that the victims should 'TurnTheOtherCheek', Alya, Kim, Alix, and others effectively turn into carbon copies of [[SpoiledBrat Chloe]], acting just as she did, and getting away with it until their [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty Karma Houdini Warranties]] expire.
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** The bullying and [[EntitledBastard extreme entitlement]] shown by the majority of the class is blamed on Miss Bustier's teaching methods. Since she [[KarmaHoudini refuses to punish bullies]], preaching instead that the victims should 'TurnTheOtherCheek', Alya, Kim, Alix, and others effectively turn into carbon copies of [[SpoiledBrat Chloe]], Chloé]], acting just as she did, and getting away with it until their [[KarmaHoudiniWarranty Karma Houdini Warranties]] expire.
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* ''Fanfic/LongCon'':
** As a RecursiveFanfiction for ''Fanfic/{{the high road|MiraculousLadybug}}'', this work criticizes both the "high road" approach as well as Marinette's employment of BotheringByTheBook. While her malicious compliance ''does'' force her classmates to realize that Lila is manipulating them, it also means that she's stuck catering to Lila's every whim in the meantime, which takes its toll on her. She's also deeply discomforted in seeing how much her classmates are suffering in the meantime, finding no catharsis in their struggles, and repeatedly debates with herself whether or not she should continue with her plan.
** Marinette's attraction to Adrien is also picked apart, as she realizes that her classmates see her as a FlatCharacter whose personality is completely defined by her crush on him. On top of this, she recognizes that she was LovingAShadow, ultimately deciding to give up on him entirely.
** Ms. Bustier's preference for passive-aggressively pressuring her "good" students to {{Easily Forgive|n}} their bullies and tormentors while refusing to punish said bullies means that Lila isn't concerned about being exposed. When the class finally confronts her, she points out that their teacher will punish ''them'' instead of her, and she'll get coddled in the same way as Chloe.
** As a RecursiveFanfiction for ''Fanfic/{{the high road|MiraculousLadybug}}'', this work criticizes both the "high road" approach as well as Marinette's employment of BotheringByTheBook. While her malicious compliance ''does'' force her classmates to realize that Lila is manipulating them, it also means that she's stuck catering to Lila's every whim in the meantime, which takes its toll on her. She's also deeply discomforted in seeing how much her classmates are suffering in the meantime, finding no catharsis in their struggles, and repeatedly debates with herself whether or not she should continue with her plan.
** Marinette's attraction to Adrien is also picked apart, as she realizes that her classmates see her as a FlatCharacter whose personality is completely defined by her crush on him. On top of this, she recognizes that she was LovingAShadow, ultimately deciding to give up on him entirely.
** Ms. Bustier's preference for passive-aggressively pressuring her "good" students to {{Easily Forgive|n}} their bullies and tormentors while refusing to punish said bullies means that Lila isn't concerned about being exposed. When the class finally confronts her, she points out that their teacher will punish ''them'' instead of her, and she'll get coddled in the same way as Chloe.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/47431372/chapters/119524126#workskin Kwami Magi Homura Magica]]'' takes a few whacks at the idea of Future Bunnyx being a time traveling jerkass who doesn't try to fix things even they clearly go wrong despite knowing everything. Bunnyx fully admits that she doesn't get why the events of ''Cat Blanc'', which didn't originally happen in time happened, and thus the trauma Marinette got from it changed the future, didn't break the future, nor did the related opening up to Alya and having her become her SecretKeeper break the future despite that also being a divergence from history, and that she doesn't know why some things can be changed and others can't for both good and ill. She hates the idea that she doesn't know what can change and what can't, because she is terrified of the idea that [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong trying to fix problems like Rose's death]] end up being [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight the opposite]] and the idea of having to 'fix' such a thing back to how it used to be mortifies her. Her own future is a pretty good one by most accounts: the ice caps got fixed, the worst of the looming extinction crisis in biota was averted, space travel is developing well, and she's seen how easy it is to screw that up, so she's protecting not her own interests, but protecting a genuinely good future and, having seen more than a few takes on a BadFuture and how easy it is to get that and how rare a good future is, wants to keep it safe as much as possible.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/47431372/chapters/119524126#workskin Kwami Magi Homura Magica]]'' takes a few whacks at the idea of Future Bunnyx being a time traveling jerkass who doesn't try to fix things even they clearly go wrong despite knowing everything. Bunnyx fully admits that she doesn't get why the events of ''Cat Blanc'', which didn't originally happen and thus the trauma Marinette got from it changed the future, didn't break the future, nor did the related opening up to Alya and having her become her SecretKeeper break the future despite that also being a divergence from history, and that she doesn't know why some things can be changed and others can't for both good and ill. She hates the idea that she doesn't know what can change and what can't, because she is terrified of the idea that [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong trying to fix problems like Rose's death]] end up being [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight the opposite]] and the idea of having to 'fix' such a thing back to how it used to be mortifies her. Her own future is a pretty good one by most accounts: the ice caps got fixed, the worst of the looming extinction crisis in biota was averted, space travel is developing well, and she's seen how easy it is to screw that up, so she's protecting not her own interests, but protecting a genuinely good future and, having seen more than a few takes on a BadFuture and how easy it is to get that and how rare a good future is, wants to keep it safe as much as possible.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/47431372/chapters/119524126#workskin Kwami Magi Homura Magica]]'' takes a few whacks at the idea of Future Bunnyx being a time traveling jerkass who doesn't try to fix things even they clearly go wrong despite knowing everything. Bunnyx fully admits that she doesn't get why the events of ''Cat Blanc'', which didn't originally happen in time happened, and thus the trauma Marinette got from it changed the future, didn't break the future, nor did the related opening up to Alya and having her become her SecretKeeper break the future despite that also being a divergence from history, and that she doesn't know why some things can be changed and others can't for both good and ill. She hates the idea that she doesn't know what can change and what can't, because she is terrified of the idea that [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong trying to fix problems like Rose's death]] end up being [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight the opposite]] and the idea of having to 'fix' such a thing back to how it used to be mortifies her. Her own future is a pretty good one by most accounts: the ice caps got fixed, the worst of the looming extinction crisis in biota was averted, space travel is developing well, and she's seen how easy it is to screw that up, so she's protecting not her own interests, but protecting a genuinely good future and, having seen more than a few takes on a BadFuture and how easy it is to get that and how rare a good future is, wants to keep it safe as much as possible.
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* ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/47431372/chapters/119524126#workskin Kwami Magi Homura Magica]]'' takes a few whacks at the idea of Future Bunnyx being a time traveling jerkass who doesn't try to fix things even they clearly go wrong despite knowing everything. Bunnyx fully admits that she doesn't get why the events of ''Cat Blanc'', which didn't originally happen and thus the trauma Marinette got from it changed the future, didn't break the future, nor did the related opening up to Alya and having her become her SecretKeeper break the future despite that also being a divergence from history, and that she doesn't know why some things can be changed and others can't for both good and ill. She hates the idea that she doesn't know what can change and what can't, because she is terrified of the idea that [[SetRightWhatOnceWentWrong trying to fix problems like Rose's death]] end up being [[MakeWrongWhatOnceWentRight the opposite]] and the idea of having to 'fix' such a thing back to how it used to be mortifies her. Her own future is a pretty good one by most accounts: the ice caps got fixed, the worst of the looming extinction crisis in biota was averted, space travel is developing well, and she's seen how easy it is to screw that up, so she's protecting not her own interests, but protecting a genuinely good future and, having seen more than a few takes on a BadFuture and how easy it is to get that and how rare a good future is, wants to keep it safe as much as possible.
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** The idea that Marinette is the ''only character'' who needs to learn anything is heavily criticized through Adrien and Future!Alix. Future!Alix reveals that as Bunnyx, she has seen several {{Bad Future}}s; what she [[SelectiveObliviousness refuses to acknowledge]] is that a common thread in these timelines is Adrien's failure to develop. Either he pulls a FaceHeelTurn when he [[IRejectYourReality rejects the reality]] that his father is a supervillain, or he develops a toxic AllTakeAndNoGive relationship with Marinette, expecting her to put all the effort into making their marriage work. Future!Alix insists that he ''can't'' be expected to change, ignoring the fact that Adrien actually ''does'' go through positive CharacterDevelopment in this work as a result of [[ForWantOfANail what's changed]].
