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* The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than (in his opinion) a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.

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* The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman [[Characters/DCAUBatman Batman]] is not more than (in his opinion) a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.



* CardCarryingVillain is {{Deconstructed}} by Terry during the finale of ''The Return of the Joker". As much as the Joker tried to be AffablyEvil to Batman and get him to laugh, he was really FauxAffablyEvil. He never made Batman smile, laugh, or take him seriously as a comedian, which Terry guesses is why he became obsessed with Batman. When Terry decides to start playing the Joker's own game of taunting and telling jokes (basically being TheHeckler), the Joker has a VillainousBreakdown, as Terry points out his [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor humor flat out sucks]].

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* CardCarryingVillain is {{Deconstructed}} by Terry during the finale of ''The Return of the Joker". As much as [[Characters/DCAUJoker the Joker Joker]] tried to be AffablyEvil to Batman and get him to laugh, he was really FauxAffablyEvil. He never made Batman smile, laugh, or take him seriously as a comedian, which Terry guesses is why he became obsessed with Batman. When Terry decides to start playing the Joker's own game of taunting and telling jokes (basically being TheHeckler), the Joker has a VillainousBreakdown, as Terry points out his [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor humor flat out sucks]].
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-->'''Timothy Drake (as an adult):''' Fun and games. Boy wonder playing hero. Fighting the bad guys and no one ever gets... [[spoiler:Oh god. I killed him. I didn't mean to. I tried so hard to forget. But I still hear the shot. Still see the dead smile. Every night the dreams get stronger... He's there when I sleep. Whispering! Laughing! Telling me that I'm as bad as he is! We're both the same!]] [[note]]Though his 'dreams' are actually [[spoiler:the result of the Joker placing a microchip on him before he died, in an attempt to [[GrandTheftMe take over]] Tim's body]].[[/note]]

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-->'''Timothy Drake (as an adult):''' Fun and games. Boy wonder playing hero. Fighting the bad guys and no one ever gets... [[spoiler:Oh god. I killed him. I didn't mean to. I tried so hard to forget. But I still hear the shot. Still see the dead smile. Every night the dreams get stronger... He's there when I sleep. Whispering! Laughing! Telling me that I'm just as bad as he is! We're both the same!]] [[note]]Though his 'dreams' are actually [[spoiler:the result of the Joker placing a microchip on him before he died, in an attempt to [[GrandTheftMe take over]] Tim's body]].[[/note]]
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* Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another criminal. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkham Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:

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* [[Characters/DCAUHarleyQuinn Harley Quinn Quinn]] deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another criminal. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkham Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:
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* The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him and decided if the source of the teens' troubles disappeared, he'd have more free time]].

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* The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is It’s clear that he is he’s going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is It’s revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him and decided if the source of the teens' troubles disappeared, he'd have more free time]].
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* Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkham Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:

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* Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath.criminal. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkham Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:



* TheChessmaster is deconstructed when everyone of the grown up Bat Family distrusts the Batman for his manipulative tendences.

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* TheChessmaster is deconstructed when everyone of in the grown up Bat Family distrusts the Batman for his manipulative tendences.tendencies.
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* Timothy Drake deconstructs the KidSidekick as a WellDoneSonGuy pathetically trying to please TheHero because [[IJustWantToBeYou He Just Wants To Be Him]]. When that doesn't happen, there comes the FanDisillusionment:

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* Timothy Tim Drake deconstructs the KidSidekick as a WellDoneSonGuy pathetically trying to please TheHero because [[IJustWantToBeYou He Just Wants To Be Him]]. When that doesn't happen, there comes the FanDisillusionment:
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-->'''The Joker:''' I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the sturm and bat-o-rangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

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-->'''The Joker:''' And kind of like the kid who peeks in at his Christmas presents, I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the sturm and bat-o-rangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
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* The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.

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* The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than (in his opinion) a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.
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-->'''Barbara Gordon:''' Comes with the territory, [=McGinnis=]. Look up Nightwing someday, has he got stories.

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-->'''Barbara Gordon:''' Comes with the territory, [=McGinnis=]. Look up Nightwing someday, has he got stories.stories.
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-->'''Batman ([=McGinnis=])''' [after his interview with Drake]: ''Were all of you that bitter when you left?''
-->'''Barbara Gordon:''' ''Comes with the territory, [=McGinnis=]. Look up Nightwing someday, has he got stories.''

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-->'''Batman ([=McGinnis=])''' [after his interview with Drake]: ''Were all Were ''all'' of you that bitter when you left?''
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-->'''Barbara Gordon:''' ''Comes Comes with the territory, [=McGinnis=]. Look up Nightwing someday, has he got stories.''
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* CardCarryingVillain is {{Deconstructed}} by Terry during the finale of ''The Return of the Joker". As much as the Joker tried to be AffablyEvil to Batman and get him to laugh, he was really FauxAffablyEvil. He never made Batman smile, laugh, or take him seriously as a comedian, which Terry guesses is why he became bossed with Batman. When Terry decides to start playing the Joker's own game of taunting and telling jokes (basically being TheHeckler), the Joker has a VillainousBreakdown, as Terry points out his [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor humor flat out sucks]].

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* CardCarryingVillain is {{Deconstructed}} by Terry during the finale of ''The Return of the Joker". As much as the Joker tried to be AffablyEvil to Batman and get him to laugh, he was really FauxAffablyEvil. He never made Batman smile, laugh, or take him seriously as a comedian, which Terry guesses is why he became bossed obsessed with Batman. When Terry decides to start playing the Joker's own game of taunting and telling jokes (basically being TheHeckler), the Joker has a VillainousBreakdown, as Terry points out his [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor humor flat out sucks]].



* Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkhan Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:

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* Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkhan Arkham Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:
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* The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him]].

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* The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him]].him and decided if the source of the teens' troubles disappeared, he'd have more free time]].
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* The new Batman (Terry [=McGinnis=]) admits that ComicBook/TheJoker is a successful supervillain, but a pathetic comedian: he never made Batman laugh, nor corrupt or break him. He never was AffablyEvil, just FauxAffablyEvil. And maybe the clearer proof that The Joker is a mediocre comic is that he cannot deal with the natural enemy of a comedian: ''TheHeckler''.

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* The new CardCarryingVillain is {{Deconstructed}} by Terry during the finale of ''The Return of the Joker". As much as the Joker tried to be AffablyEvil to Batman (Terry [=McGinnis=]) admits that ComicBook/TheJoker is a successful supervillain, but a pathetic comedian: and get him to laugh, he was really FauxAffablyEvil. He never made Batman smile, laugh, nor corrupt or break him. He never was AffablyEvil, just FauxAffablyEvil. And maybe take him seriously as a comedian, which Terry guesses is why he became bossed with Batman. When Terry decides to start playing the clearer proof that The Joker's own game of taunting and telling jokes (basically being TheHeckler), the Joker is has a mediocre comic is that he cannot deal with the natural enemy of a comedian: ''TheHeckler''.VillainousBreakdown, as Terry points out his [[EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor humor flat out sucks]].



-->'''Terry [=McGinnis=]:''' Get a clue, clowny! He's got no sense of humor! He wouldn't know a good joke if it bit him in the cape... not that you ever had a good joke.

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-->'''Terry [=McGinnis=]:''' Get a clue, clowny! [[TheStoic He's got no sense of humor! humor]]! He wouldn't know a good joke if it bit him in the cape... not that you ever had a good joke.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'':
** The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him]].
** The episode "Heroes" deconstructs FreakLabAccident origin stories. A team of ComicBook/FantasticFour expies discover that the high radiation levels from the accident that gave them their powers is slowly killing them and driving them insane, and said "accident" was orchestrated by their old colleague in a MurderTheHypotenuse scheme. It's a chilling reminder that the line between hero and villain can be as slim as the choice one is offered. The leader even admits he's not a hero because the accident robbed him of any real choice to be one or not.
*** The episode also briefly deconstructs the CelebritySuperhero: they're so popular with the public and work so well with the government only because the military has taken them in as personal attack dogs, and is trying to make sure they have a good public image.
** The KidHero trope is deconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''. Being a youngster who fights evil won't spare you from [[spoiler:the torture and brainwashing MindRape you'll receive once you end up in the claws of a sadistic, murderous, amoral psychopath. If you ''do'' survive it, you'll completely lose your sanity, it will take years of therapy to cure you, and you have to live with PTSD through the rest of your life. Though Tim was actually not regretful of it until the Joker began influencing him in his attempt to take over.]]

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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'':
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The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him]].
** * The episode "Heroes" deconstructs FreakLabAccident origin stories. A team of ComicBook/FantasticFour expies discover that the high radiation levels from the accident that gave them their powers is slowly killing them and driving them insane, and said "accident" was orchestrated by their old colleague in a MurderTheHypotenuse scheme. It's a chilling reminder that the line between hero and villain can be as slim as the choice one is offered. The leader even admits he's not a hero because the accident robbed him of any real choice to be one or not.
*** ** The episode also briefly deconstructs the CelebritySuperhero: they're so popular with the public and work so well with the government only because the military has taken them in as personal attack dogs, and is trying to make sure they have a good public image.
** * The KidHero trope is deconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''. Being a youngster who fights evil won't spare you from [[spoiler:the torture and brainwashing MindRape you'll receive once you end up in the claws of a sadistic, murderous, amoral psychopath. If you ''do'' survive it, you'll completely lose your sanity, it will take years of therapy to cure you, and you have to live with PTSD through the rest of your life. Though Tim was actually not regretful of it until the Joker began influencing him in his attempt to take over.]]



** The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.

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** * The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.



** Timothy Drake deconstructs the KidSidekick as a WellDoneSonGuy pathetically trying to please TheHero because [[IJustWantToBeYou He Just Wants To Be Him]]. When that doesn't happen, there comes the FanDisillusionment:

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** * Timothy Drake deconstructs the KidSidekick as a WellDoneSonGuy pathetically trying to please TheHero because [[IJustWantToBeYou He Just Wants To Be Him]]. When that doesn't happen, there comes the FanDisillusionment:



*** However, it's been noted that his hatred for being Robin was a result of the Joker's influence on him and he was actually pretty okay.
** The new Batman (Terry [=McGinnis=]) admits that ComicBook/TheJoker is a successful supervillain, but a pathetic comedian: he never made Batman laugh, nor corrupt or break him. He never was AffablyEvil, just FauxAffablyEvil. And maybe the clearer proof that The Joker is a mediocre comic is that he cannot deal with the natural enemy of a comedian: ''TheHeckler''.

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*** ** However, it's been noted that his hatred for being Robin was a result of the Joker's influence on him and he was actually pretty okay.
** * The new Batman (Terry [=McGinnis=]) admits that ComicBook/TheJoker is a successful supervillain, but a pathetic comedian: he never made Batman laugh, nor corrupt or break him. He never was AffablyEvil, just FauxAffablyEvil. And maybe the clearer proof that The Joker is a mediocre comic is that he cannot deal with the natural enemy of a comedian: ''TheHeckler''.



** Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkhan Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:

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** * Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkhan Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:



** TheCowl is deconstructed because Batman is so completely dedicated to his mission, the Batfamily members and Harley [[GrowingUpSucks want to grow up, have families, have much more of life than playing an infinite]] CycleOfRevenge and let him be LonelyAtTheTop. The disturbing conclusion is that the only relationship that ever worked for Batman was the FoeRomanceSubtext he had with The Joker. As we see at the page quote, Joker was truly special for Batman: He was the only one capable of accepting Batman as the {{Determinator}}.
** TheChessmaster is deconstructed when everyone of the grown up Bat Family distrusts the Batman for his manipulative tendences.

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** * TheCowl is deconstructed because Batman is so completely dedicated to his mission, the Batfamily members and Harley [[GrowingUpSucks want to grow up, have families, have much more of life than playing an infinite]] CycleOfRevenge and let him be LonelyAtTheTop. The disturbing conclusion is that the only relationship that ever worked for Batman was the FoeRomanceSubtext he had with The Joker. As we see at the page quote, Joker was truly special for Batman: He was the only one capable of accepting Batman as the {{Determinator}}.
** * TheChessmaster is deconstructed when everyone of the grown up Bat Family distrusts the Batman for his manipulative tendences.
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* ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'':
** The episode "Payback" deconstructs BullyHunter. The episode features a masked VigilanteMan who specifically targets adults (parents/teachers/bosses) that bully various teenagers in Gotham City. It is clear that he is going overboard, as his attacks on them are rather violent and almost lethal against those who've slighted others. [[spoiler: It is revealed that Payback is the son of a doctor at a local youth counseling center, who was depressed that his father was spending too much time counseling other teenagers and neglecting him]].
** The episode "Heroes" deconstructs FreakLabAccident origin stories. A team of ComicBook/FantasticFour expies discover that the high radiation levels from the accident that gave them their powers is slowly killing them and driving them insane, and said "accident" was orchestrated by their old colleague in a MurderTheHypotenuse scheme. It's a chilling reminder that the line between hero and villain can be as slim as the choice one is offered. The leader even admits he's not a hero because the accident robbed him of any real choice to be one or not.
*** The episode also briefly deconstructs the CelebritySuperhero: they're so popular with the public and work so well with the government only because the military has taken them in as personal attack dogs, and is trying to make sure they have a good public image.
** The KidHero trope is deconstructed in ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''. Being a youngster who fights evil won't spare you from [[spoiler:the torture and brainwashing MindRape you'll receive once you end up in the claws of a sadistic, murderous, amoral psychopath. If you ''do'' survive it, you'll completely lose your sanity, it will take years of therapy to cure you, and you have to live with PTSD through the rest of your life. Though Tim was actually not regretful of it until the Joker began influencing him in his attempt to take over.]]
-->'''Timothy Drake (as an adult):''' Fun and games. Boy wonder playing hero. Fighting the bad guys and no one ever gets... [[spoiler:Oh god. I killed him. I didn't mean to. I tried so hard to forget. But I still hear the shot. Still see the dead smile. Every night the dreams get stronger... He's there when I sleep. Whispering! Laughing! Telling me that I'm as bad as he is! We're both the same!]] [[note]]Though his 'dreams' are actually [[spoiler:the result of the Joker placing a microchip on him before he died, in an attempt to [[GrandTheftMe take over]] Tim's body]].[[/note]]
** The Joker points out that for all the fear he invokes being TheCowl, Batman is not more than a pathetic ManChild crying out for mommy and daddy after all those years.
-->'''The Joker:''' I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the sturm and bat-o-rangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.
** Timothy Drake deconstructs the KidSidekick as a WellDoneSonGuy pathetically trying to please TheHero because [[IJustWantToBeYou He Just Wants To Be Him]]. When that doesn't happen, there comes the FanDisillusionment:
-->'''Tim:''' We gave our best, but in the end that wasn't good enough for the old man. When I was younger, part of me thought I would go on and on, and someday...ah, capes, costumes, playing hero - it was kid's stuff! Bruce probably did me a favor. In the end, I was so sick of it I never wanted to see that stupid Robin suit again...!
*** However, it's been noted that his hatred for being Robin was a result of the Joker's influence on him and he was actually pretty okay.
** The new Batman (Terry [=McGinnis=]) admits that ComicBook/TheJoker is a successful supervillain, but a pathetic comedian: he never made Batman laugh, nor corrupt or break him. He never was AffablyEvil, just FauxAffablyEvil. And maybe the clearer proof that The Joker is a mediocre comic is that he cannot deal with the natural enemy of a comedian: ''TheHeckler''.
-->'''Terry [=McGinnis=]:''' The real reason you kept coming back was you never got a laugh out of the old man.
-->'''The Joker:''' I'm not ''hearing'' this...
-->'''Terry [=McGinnis=]:''' Get a clue, clowny! He's got no sense of humor! He wouldn't know a good joke if it bit him in the cape... not that you ever had a good joke.
-->'''The Joker:''' [[BigShutUp Shut up... shut up!]]
-->'''Terry [=McGinnis=]:''' I mean, joy-buzzers, squirting flowers, lame! Where's the "A" material? Make a face, drop your pants, something!
** Harley Quinn deconstructs the PerkyFemaleMinion into CuteAndPsycho after helping the Joker torture Robin, showing us that she was just another psychopath. Batgirl conveniently forgets that the only one of Joker’s potential victims Harley defended in the series was [[HoYay Poison Ivy]] and Arkhan Asylum's inmates. Harley was perfectly okay with The Joker torturing and killing [[LongList Harvey Bullock, Charlie Collins, Sid the Squid, Carl Francis, Thomas Jackson, Batgirl's own father, Commissioner Gordon, etc...]]:
-->'''Batgirl:''' How could you help Joker do it, Harley?
-->'''Harley Quinn:''' Okay, so he roughed the kid up a little. But I'll make it right.
-->'''Batgirl:''' Yeah, you're Mother of the Stinkin' Year!
** TheCowl is deconstructed because Batman is so completely dedicated to his mission, the Batfamily members and Harley [[GrowingUpSucks want to grow up, have families, have much more of life than playing an infinite]] CycleOfRevenge and let him be LonelyAtTheTop. The disturbing conclusion is that the only relationship that ever worked for Batman was the FoeRomanceSubtext he had with The Joker. As we see at the page quote, Joker was truly special for Batman: He was the only one capable of accepting Batman as the {{Determinator}}.
** TheChessmaster is deconstructed when everyone of the grown up Bat Family distrusts the Batman for his manipulative tendences.
-->'''Batman ([=McGinnis=])''' [after his interview with Drake]: ''Were all of you that bitter when you left?''
-->'''Barbara Gordon:''' ''Comes with the territory, [=McGinnis=]. Look up Nightwing someday, has he got stories.''

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