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* ''LightNovel/MagicalGirlRaisingProject'': The reaction to the series was mainly this, with many mixed to negative reactions over yet another DarkerAndEdgier magical girl show being aired at a period in which more typical takes on the genre have become very seldom (at the time, only ''Anime/MahoGirlsPreCure'', ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' and ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' were mainstream, and all of them were new installments of old-established franchises instead of fully new works). Even Crunchyroll staffers showed themselves frustrated about it on the live portion of the Fall 2016 Rollout special where they first announced they were simulcasting the anime adaptation of ''Magical Girl Raising Project''.

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* ''LightNovel/MagicalGirlRaisingProject'': The reaction to the series was mainly this, with many mixed to negative reactions over yet another DarkerAndEdgier magical girl MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction show being aired at a period in which more typical takes on the genre have become very seldom (at the time, only ''Anime/MahoGirlsPreCure'', ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' and ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' were mainstream, and all of them were new installments of old-established franchises instead of fully new works). Even Crunchyroll staffers showed themselves frustrated about it on the live portion of the Fall 2016 Rollout special where they first announced they were simulcasting the anime adaptation of ''Magical Girl Raising Project''.
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* ''LightNovel/MagicalGirlRaisingProject'': The reaction to the series was mainly this, with many mixed to negative reactions over yet another DarkerAndEdgier magical girl show being aired at a period in which more typical takes on the genre have become very seldom (at the time, only ''Anime/MahoGirlsPreCure'', ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' and ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' were mainstream, and all of them were new installments of old-established franchises instead of fully new works). Even Crunchyroll staffers showed themselves frustrated about it on the live portion of the Fall 2016 Rollout special where they first announced they were simulcasting the anime adaptation of ''Magical Girl Raising Project''.

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* ''LightNovel/MagicalGirlRaisingProject'': The reaction to the series was mainly this, with many mixed to negative reactions over yet another DarkerAndEdgier magical girl show being aired at a period in which more typical takes on the genre have become very seldom (at the time, only ''Anime/MahoGirlsPreCure'', ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' and ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' ''Manga/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' were mainstream, and all of them were new installments of old-established franchises instead of fully new works). Even Crunchyroll staffers showed themselves frustrated about it on the live portion of the Fall 2016 Rollout special where they first announced they were simulcasting the anime adaptation of ''Magical Girl Raising Project''.
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* ''LightNovel/MagicalGirlRaisingProject'': The reaction to the series was mainly this, with many mixed to negative reactions over yet another DarkerAndEdgier magical girl show being aired at a period in which more typical takes on the genre have become very seldom (at the time, only ''Anime/MahoGirlsPreCure'', ''Anime/SailorMoonCrystal'' and ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaViVid'' were mainstream, and all of them were new installments of old-established franchises instead of fully new works). Even Crunchyroll staffers showed themselves frustrated about it on the live portion of the Fall 2016 Rollout special where they first announced they were simulcasting the anime adaptation of ''Magical Girl Raising Project''.
** EightDeadlyWords is a very common complaint, even by fans of the show themselves, is that it is hard to feel any impact at the death of characters who barely get any development before being mowed down. Part of the fault goes to the anime attempting to adapt all the side stories and backgrounds of the cast from the first arc, which leaves no screen time to dedicate individually to every one of them given the short length of the series. Being a twelve episode anime trying to flesh out sixteen characters meant that it could not even focus on a single character per episode.
** This problem actually is endemic to the light novel itself, as many fans agree that the characters in the first arc, which the anime adapts, were weaker in terms of characterization. Later arcs were much better received both in character depth and world building.
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* ''Manga/MagicalGirlSite'' is a grim-dark MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction manga, that tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except... the contract turns out to be a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and fight nothing but between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site in a form of DeadlyGame]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].

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* ''Manga/MagicalGirlSite'' isn't so popular because it is a horribly grim-dark MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction manga, that tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except... the contract turns out to be a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and fight nothing but between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site in a form of DeadlyGame]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].



* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' replays the early events with a far more hopeful tone [[spoiler:but plunges back into despair with the third film.]]

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* ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' replays the early events with a far more hopeful tone [[spoiler:but plunges back into despair with the [[Animethe third film.]]

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': It's a show about [[DysfunctionJunction insane people]] fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s in a post-apocalyptic world and gradually becoming more and more insane, all while [[spoiler:a top-secret organization pulls strings behind the scenes and plots to bring about a second, [[ApocalypseWow more impressive]] apocalypse]].
** ''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' replays the early events with a far more hopeful tone [[spoiler:but plunges back into despair with the third film.]]

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* ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'': It's a show about [[DysfunctionJunction insane people]] fighting against {{Eldritch Abomination}}s in a post-apocalyptic world and gradually becoming more and more insane, all while [[spoiler:a top-secret organization pulls strings behind the scenes and plots to bring about a second, [[ApocalypseWow more impressive]] apocalypse]].
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''Anime/RebuildOfEvangelion'' replays the early events with a far more hopeful tone [[spoiler:but plunges back into despair with the third film.]]
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* ''Anime/DragonBallSuper'':
** Some have this opinion of the Future Trunks Saga for its complete HappyEndingOverride of Future Trunks's already-BittersweetEnding at the end of the Androids[=/=]Cell Saga, not to mention [[spoiler:the CruelTwistEnding where Fused Zamasu's half-immortality turns himself into a SpacetimeEater after his bodily death, forcing Future Zen-Oh to render Future Trunks's whole timeline DeaderThanDead to stop him. This includes him and Future Mai being sent to a CloseEnoughTimeline, for those who consider it an EsotericHappyEnding]].
** Some have this opinion of the Universe Survival Saga. While it does raise the potential for awesome fights, the fact that [[spoiler:the losing universes and its inhabitants are instantly [[CessationOfExistence obliterated from reality]] and the DistantFinale of ''Z'' likely meaning that [[PlotArmor Universe 7]] [[ForegoneConclusion will end up winning]], is leaving some fans frustrated over the prospect of losing many cool characters from the other universes, including [[EnsembleDarkhorse Universe 6]]]]. [[spoiler: [[EveryoneLIves Totally]] averted in the end.]]

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* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', especially in its early stages. The anime version tones it down JUST a little, but it's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone in this series since the vast majority of them are all jerks, evil or psychotic.



* The first episode of ''Anime/PsychoPass'' takes place in a run-down slum, where [[BlackAndGrayMorality some "enforcers," most of whom are criminals, are hunting a worse criminal]]. Said worse criminal rapes a woman ''slightly'' offscreen ForTheEvulz. Right after it's revealed that [[TraumaCongaLine he was a good person before a negative psychological profile sent him into a death spiral]], the enforcers reduce him to LudicrousGibs, and they almost do the same to the rape victim! With the strong implications that this is only the first few snowballs of an oncoming angst avalanche, some people found it hard to care about the situation.\\
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It's interesting to note in the case of ''Anime/PsychoPass'' that arguably the apathy is ''part of the point of the show''. As the series goes on, it becomes increasingly clear that the Sibyl System has nearly eliminated all crime for society but has removed almost all free will, passion and emotion from society leaving almost everyone emotionally dead but with a forced neutral look or slight smile. On the other hand, those who feel extreme emotions are hunted down and locked in asylums or killed. Due to this, in order to accomplish anything in the world of ''Psycho-Pass'' one must not feel any emotion towards others and fully believe in their own world view, essentially becoming a sociopath. [[spoiler:[[BigBad Makishima]] has been a sociopath like this since birth, but values the emotions and potential of humanity and wants to do anything to bring the Sibyl System down so people can live life by their own wills, even if he must create societal collapse. The Sibyl System itself is composed of sociopathic brains in a HiveMind that want peace for Japan no matter what, even if they must destroy human individuality and emotion.]]
** As of the movie, the Sibyl System is growing more powerful, more ruthless and more efficient as they expand outside Japan if it weren't for the actions of Season 2's BigBad [[spoiler:for [[NiceJobFixingItVillain unknowningly trimming their weaknesses off]] ]]. Regardless of Akane's attempts to humanize the system, it's rendered moot in TheStinger [[spoiler:where the puppet leader of [=SEAUn=] got reelected]].
* ''Anime/PuellaMagiMadokaMagica'' can become this for viewers. Seeing ''everything'' [[WhamEpisode after episode three]] be one long road of misery, suffering, and DeusAngstMachina [[spoiler:until Madoka rewrites reality]] in the span of only twelve episodes can become really stagnant for some. [[spoiler: And then ''Rebellion'' comes out and turns out that [[LoveMakesYouCrazy love has turned Homura so crazy]] that she essentially goes and becomes the Lucifer to Madoka's CrystalDragonJesus, creating a MASSIVE HappyEndingOverride and a SequelHook that professes much more misery to come, no matter how it goes]].
** All of the PMMM spin-off manga with the original cast: Different Story definitely becomes one, and Homura's Revenge looks to be shaping up that way as well.
** The spin-off ''Manga/PuellaMagiKazumiMagica'' devolves in this shortly before the climax. When all the girls start to fight each other due to their different view-points, it becomes hard to root for one or other due to the fact that they all (although to different degrees) are so morally rotten that several of them already spot a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality blue and orange morality]].
** ''Manga/PuellaMagiOrikoMagica.'' The principal conflict is between [[spoiler:Oriko, who wants to murder an innocent fourteen-year-old and anyone else in the way to stop her from becoming a [[DarkMessiah world-destroying Witch]], and Homura, who is all too eager to risk the [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption almost certain]] destruction of the world [[AlwaysSaveTheGirl for the sake of said innocent fourteen-year-old.]]]] It doesn't end well for either.
** ''Manga/PuellaMagiSuzuneMagica'' takes Oriko's example to the arguably most [[{{Expy}} shameless]] [[{{Flanderization}} degree]]. The story is [[WordOfGod established]] as a battle royale KillEmAll, with the protagonist being a cold-blooded serial killer who refuses to explain her motivation, yet somehow ends up being viewed as sympathetic [[spoiler:once it's revealed she's been {{brainwashed}} by the BigBad to commit these killings]]. All the supporting cast except one are selfish people who don't get enough time to develop, and the BigBad is even worse, [[spoiler:given she set up this KillEmAll, including the protagonist being a serial killer, all just so she could draw out the suffering of and kill said protagonist once she revealed the AwfulTruth]].



* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'', ''Fate/Zero'', and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this. Unsurprisingly, it's considered to be one of the most disliked anime of 2017 and has become one of the biggest AcceptableTargets for recent anime.

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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'', ''Fate/Zero'', and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this. Unsurprisingly, it's considered to be one of the most disliked anime of 2017 and has become one of the biggest AcceptableTargets for recent anime.

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* ''LightNovel/RedoOfHealer'': The main character is a SerialRapist and a very creative torturer with a harem of slaves (that he either bought or brainwashed) ... but he's still a saint compared to his enemies. So yeah, it's very easy to not care about what happens to anyone.



* ''LightNovel/ReZero'': Kicks in during the later episodes, where Subaru's punishments for screwing up become more visceral. For some people this borders on unnecessary cruelty.


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* ''LightNovel/RedoOfHealer'': The main character is a SerialRapist and a very creative torturer with a harem of slaves (that he either bought or brainwashed)... but [[ALighterShadeOfBlack he's still a saint compared to his enemies]]. So yeah, it's very easy to not care about what happens to anyone, unless you're into rape/sex scenes.
* ''LightNovel/ReZero'': Kicks in during the later episodes, where Subaru's punishments for screwing up become more visceral. For some people this borders on unnecessary cruelty.
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* ''LightNovel/RedoOfHealer'': The main character is a SerialRapist and a very creative torturer with a harem of slaves (that he either bought or brainwashed) ... but he's still a saint compared to his enemies. So yeah, it's very easy to not care about what happens to anyone.
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* The fantasy manga ''Yakushoku Distpiari'' isn't very popular, due to its gruesome premise: The Hero can only level up [[PowerAtAPrice by killing his party members and obtaining their skills]]. This premise causes many readers ended up [[EightDeadlyWords getting tired of continuing it.]]

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* The fantasy manga ''Yakushoku Distpiari'' isn't very popular, due to its gruesome premise: The Hero can only level up [[PowerAtAPrice by killing his party members and obtaining their skills]]. This premise causes many readers ended up [[EightDeadlyWords getting tired of continuing it.]]

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' seems to be a victim of this trope from time to time.
** We have the very polarizing ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' and, to a greater extent, ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory Gundam]]''. Some fans love these two series, calling them the best of ''Gundam'' because of their stark, gritty, and realistic portrayal of warfare; other fans despise the shows, feeling that they're cases of [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] at best (and EvilVersusEvil at worst) where characters die stupid, meaningless deaths for no reason other than shock value. Yoshiyuki Tomino himself hated working on ''Victory'' and regretted making ''Zeta'' too dark [[CreatorBreakdown given how he was suffering from depression while working on both series.]]
-->'''Random 4channer, about Zeta''': "It wasn't until a second watch-through with some more years on me and some semblance of taste that I realized it's actually a grimderp piece of shit full of irritating shrews who spend all of their time screaming at each other because they are such awful human beings. How can I be sad about anyone dying when they're all such selfish, spiteful pieces of human garbage?"
** Tomino's ''Anime/TurnAGundam'' by contrast is much lighter in tone and has few deaths, but the nature of its backstory can cause this in long-term fans of the franchise: [[spoiler:every other continuity in the franchise prior to Turn A take place in the same verse with each civilization falling to war and the power of the Turn A with the next starting from scratch, [[CruelTwistEnding nullifying any achievements in these shows]], [[ShootTheShaggyDog with nobody learning from their past mistakes]].]]
** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' is the worst offender. Detractors point out that it's hard to sympathize with the protagonists, especially Mikazuki, as their actions push them further off the slippery slope. This isn't helped in season 2 where you're ''required'' to be ruthless in this society to get ahead. In the final episodes, major characters get killed left and right to the point it stops being dramatic and starts becoming tedious. Not helping matters is the director's insistence that the entire show is basically a mafia story, NOT a war story.
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* ''Anime/MichikoToHatchin'' is set in a CrapsackWorld filled with {{Jerkass}}es, and the few people who are genuinely good and want to help people (most notably Hana, the {{Deuteragonist}}) are completely powerless to change anything for the better. Many episodes consist mainly of rotten people pushing around helpless victims or other rotten people with little to no payoff. Making matters worse is that Michiko actually began as a pretty good person, genuinely caring about Hana and rescuing her from danger, but Michiko grew increasingly selfish, abusive, and perpetually angry as the series went on.

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* ''Anime/MichikoToHatchin'' ''Anime/MichikoAndHatchin'' is set in a CrapsackWorld filled with {{Jerkass}}es, and the few people who are genuinely good and want to help people (most notably Hana, the {{Deuteragonist}}) are completely powerless to change anything for the better. Many episodes consist mainly of rotten people pushing around helpless victims or other rotten people with little to no payoff. Making matters worse is that Michiko actually began as a pretty good person, genuinely caring about Hana and rescuing her from danger, but Michiko grew increasingly selfish, abusive, and perpetually angry as the series went on.
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** We have the very polarizing ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' and, to a greater extent, ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory Gundam]]''. Some fans love these two series, calling them the best of ''Gundam'' because of their stark, gritty, and realistic portrayal of warfare; other fans despise the shows, feeling that they're cases of [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] at best (and EvilVersusEvil at worst) where characters die stupid, meaningless deaths for no reason other than shock value. Yoshiyuki Tomino himself hated working on ''Victory'' and regretted making ''Zeta'' too dark given how he was suffering from depression while working on both series.

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** We have the very polarizing ''[[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]'' and, to a greater extent, ''[[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory Gundam]]''. Some fans love these two series, calling them the best of ''Gundam'' because of their stark, gritty, and realistic portrayal of warfare; other fans despise the shows, feeling that they're cases of [[BlackAndGrayMorality Black and Gray]] at best (and EvilVersusEvil at worst) where characters die stupid, meaningless deaths for no reason other than shock value. Yoshiyuki Tomino himself hated working on ''Victory'' and regretted making ''Zeta'' too dark [[CreatorBreakdown given how he was suffering from depression while working on both series.]]
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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' seems to be a victim of this trope from time to time

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* ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' seems to be a victime of this trope from time to time

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* ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', the sequel to ''Manga/{{Devilman}}, manages to be even worse in regards to this than the original series, with a CrapsackWorld 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers of the highest order, the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as apathetic and sadistic, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and some very innocent and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some.

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* ** ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', the sequel to ''Manga/{{Devilman}}, ''Manga/{{Devilman}}'', manages to be even worse in regards to this than the original series, with a CrapsackWorld 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers and scumbags of the highest order, and the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as an apathetic and sadistic, sadistic SociopathicHero, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and with some very innocent innocent, well-meaning and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains.villains who Jack fights. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some. Not helped by the fact that the series is notorious for containing graphic scenes of child-murder, rape, cannibalism, and even zoophilia at one point.
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* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' is a grim-dark MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction manga, that tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except... the contract turns out to be a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and fight nothing but between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site in a form of DeadlyGame]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].

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* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' ''Manga/MagicalGirlSite'' is a grim-dark MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction manga, that tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except... the contract turns out to be a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and fight nothing but between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site in a form of DeadlyGame]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].

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* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except the contract is actually a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and enter the DeadlyGame between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].

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* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' is a grim-dark MagicalGirlGenreDeconstruction manga, that tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except [[spoiler:Except... the contract is actually turns out to be a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and enter the DeadlyGame fight nothing but between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site]].Site in a form of DeadlyGame]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].girl)]].
* ''Manga/MasamuneKunsRevenge'': The series isn't dark, per se, but the entire premise of the love story between two polarizing and heavily flawed characters like Masamune and Aki can come off as a hard sell of a romance story. Masamune goes out of his way to manipulate and lie to those he calls his friends and Aki frequently shames and humiliate anyone who declares their love for her. [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-12-29/the-best-anime-of-2017/the-worst-anime-of-2017/.125874 One anime reviewer]] even declared it the worst anime of 2017 for this reason.



* ''Manga/MasamuneKunsRevenge'': The series isn't dark, per se, but the entire premise of the love story between two polarizing and heavily flawed characters like Masamune and Aki can come off as a hard sell of a romance story. Masamune goes out of his way to manipulate and lie to those he calls his friends and Aki frequently shames and humiliate anyone who declares their love for her. [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2017-12-29/the-best-anime-of-2017/the-worst-anime-of-2017/.125874 One anime reviewer]] even declared it the worst anime of 2017 for this reason.
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* ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', the sequel to ''Manga/{{Devilman}}, manages to be even worse in regards to this than the original series, with a CrapsackWord 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers of the highest order, the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as apathetic and sadistic, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and some very innocent and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some.

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* ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', the sequel to ''Manga/{{Devilman}}, manages to be even worse in regards to this than the original series, with a CrapsackWord CrapsackWorld 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers of the highest order, the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as apathetic and sadistic, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and some very innocent and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some.
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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this. Unsurprisingly, it's considered to be one of the most disliked anime of 2017 and has become one of the biggest AcceptableTargets for recent anime.

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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' Lagoon'', ''Fate/Zero'', and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this. Unsurprisingly, it's considered to be one of the most disliked anime of 2017 and has become one of the biggest AcceptableTargets for recent anime.
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* The well-known Hentai series, ''Urotsukidoji'', rivals ''Anime/{{Devilman}}'' in terms of darkness in almost every way possible. With a universe full of demon rapists that target human females for sex, and a lot of the humans are hardly any better, a lot of them being rapists themselves motivated by their worst impulses, and one of our "heroes", Amano Jaku, is a hedonistic, manipulative sociopath with no regard for human life who likes tricking women into having sex with him and he tosses a baby into a river shortly after saving it (in his first appearance, no less), the rest of the characters aren't any better, and the ones that are good suffer the hardest.

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* The well-known Hentai series, ''Urotsukidoji'', rivals ''Anime/{{Devilman}}'' in terms of darkness in almost pretty much every way possible. With a universe full possible when it comes to this trope. The amount of demon rapists that target human females rape scenes (including [[NaughtyTentacles tentacle rape]], which this series is well-known for sex, being a trope namer for.), extremely graphic violence (which borders on Guro at times), and each installment [[DownerEnding ending on a downer]], has put off a lot of the humans are hardly any better, a lot of them being rapists themselves motivated by their worst impulses, and one of our "heroes", Amano Jaku, is a hedonistic, manipulative sociopath with no regard for human life who likes tricking women into having sex with him and he tosses a baby into a river shortly after saving it (in his first appearance, no less), the rest of the characters aren't any better, and the ones that are good suffer the hardest.people from this series.

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* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except the contract is actually a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and enter the DeadlyGame between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].



* ''Manga/MahouShoujoSite'' tells about a suicidal protagonist who is also a victim of her brother's abuse. Thankfully she gets a chance to join the Magical Girl Site contract, where all the girls can become magical girls. [[spoiler:Except the contract is actually a HopeSpot where she has to [[CastFromLifespan sacrifice a certain amount of her lifespan every time she uses her magical attack]] and enter the DeadlyGame between the girls who have also joined Magical Girl Site]]. Also, the fact that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids this manga runs in a Shonen magazine]] doesn't help at all. Seeing all these premises, the audience might expect our poor protagonist [[spoiler:to die in a few moments during the deadly game (or ''even after'' she wins and has become the true magical girl)]].
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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this.

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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this. Unsurprisingly, it's considered to be one of the most disliked anime of 2017 and has become one of the biggest AcceptableTargets for recent anime.
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How dare you drag Benny's good name through the mud like that.


* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', especially in its early stages. The anime version tones it down JUST a little, but it's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone in this series since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic.

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* ''Manga/BlackLagoon'', especially in its early stages. The anime version tones it down JUST a little, but it's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone in this series since they're the vast majority of them are all jerks, evil or psychotic.
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"A few episodes toward the end of the series" means, logically speaking, after the first few episodes overall.


* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but a few episodes toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this.

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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but a few episodes toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this.

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* In ''Manga/ADevilAndHerLoveSong'', there's so much drama and emotional conflict on latter volumes that it becomes really hard to root for the characters, especially if those who make others suffer go unpunished.
** Specifically, Maria's old best friend Anna gets PutOnABus after more or less acting awful to Maria after she came to school to see her, and Maria's [[spoiler: father, John, never explains why he raped her mother and she never chews him out for it, though he is a priest and clearing trying to atone for his actions]].

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* In ''Manga/ADevilAndHerLoveSong'', there's so much drama and emotional conflict on latter volumes that it becomes really hard to root for the characters, especially if those who make others suffer go unpunished.
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unpunished. Specifically, Maria's old best friend Anna gets PutOnABus after more or less acting awful to Maria after she came to school to see her, and Maria's [[spoiler: father, John, never explains why he raped her mother and she never chews him out for it, though he is a priest and clearing clearly trying to atone for his actions]].



** Its sequel series, ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', manages to be even worse in regards to this, with a CrapsackWord 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers of the highest order, the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as apathetic and sadistic, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and some very innocent and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some.

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** Its sequel series, * ''Manga/ViolenceJack.'', the sequel to ''Manga/{{Devilman}}, manages to be even worse in regards to this, this than the original series, with a CrapsackWord 10 times more brutal and depressing, full of rapists, sadists, and murderers of the highest order, the protagonist, Jack himself, starts off as apathetic and sadistic, not caring about anyone but himself (thankfully this changes due to some character development), and some very innocent and kind-hearted characters always constantly suffering at the hands of the sadistic villains. As a result, it's pretty hard to go through this series for some.
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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this.

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* ''Anime/ReCreators'' didn't have this initially, but a few episodes toward the end of the series, it really began setting in primarily thanks to [[spoiler: the ''Elimination Chamber Festival'', wherein Altair challenged every other Creation to a fight and either killing or incapacitating them without breaking a sweat thanks to how the love of the fans [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands give her new abilities completely out of thin air]] (plus, the fact that almost nobody outside of the main cast seems to ever grasp what's actually going on and what kind of threat this poses to not just Creationkind, but also to humanity as a whole). Coupled that with the fact that Altair was ultimately defeated in a scene derided as an AntiClimax (one where ''[[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot none]]'' [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot of the heroes are involved]], no less, and ''does'' involve a character [[PosthumousCharacter who had been dead]] [[BackFromTheDead up until this point]] and has had [[FlatCharacter little characterization]]) and effectively EasilyForgiven for her actions ([[TheBadGuyWins which allows her to]] [[KarmaHoudini avoid answering to her atrocities]]) and you have people decrying the series as a series where nothing of real note has been accomplished. Magane never being brought to task for any of ''her'' crimes either (in addition to getting to live in the real world and continue indulging in [[TheHedonist her lifestyle]] unimpeded) is just the cherry atop the shit sundae.]] To cap it off, the people in charge of this show also worked on ''Black Lagoon'' and ''Aldnoah.Zero'', which were similarly guilty of falling into this.
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* ''LightNovel/ReZero'': Kicks in during the later episodes, where Subaru's punishments for screwing up become more visceral. For some people this borders on unnecessary cruelty.
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Ending are irrelevant to this and Red Link


* The well-known Hentai series, ''Urotsukidoji'', rivals ''Anime/{{Devilman}}'' in terms of darkness in almost every way possible. With a universe full of demon rapists that target human females for sex, and a lot of the humans are hardly any better, a lot of them being rapists themselves motivated by their worst impulses, and one of our "heroes", Amano Jaku, is a hedonistic, manipulative sociopath with no regard for human life who likes tricking women into having sex with him and he tosses a baby into a river shortly after saving it (in his first appearance, no less), the rest of the characters aren't any better, and the ones that are good suffer the hardest. The story eventually ends with Nagumo (one of the protagonists) transforming into a giant demon and destroying the entire world. The amount of gore and TentacleRape also doesn't help matters.

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* The well-known Hentai series, ''Urotsukidoji'', rivals ''Anime/{{Devilman}}'' in terms of darkness in almost every way possible. With a universe full of demon rapists that target human females for sex, and a lot of the humans are hardly any better, a lot of them being rapists themselves motivated by their worst impulses, and one of our "heroes", Amano Jaku, is a hedonistic, manipulative sociopath with no regard for human life who likes tricking women into having sex with him and he tosses a baby into a river shortly after saving it (in his first appearance, no less), the rest of the characters aren't any better, and the ones that are good suffer the hardest. The story eventually ends with Nagumo (one of the protagonists) transforming into a giant demon and destroying the entire world. The amount of gore and TentacleRape also doesn't help matters.



* The 1996 movie of ''Manga/{{X1999}}'' is regarded as this by modern viewers since it was released while the manga was ongoing. While the Dragons of Heaven are still benevolent, the Dragons of Earth become sociopaths including Kusanagi who is the TokenGoodTeammate and a FriendToAllLivingThings. There's also the fact the both sides ended up [[KillThemAll losing their members]] and the barriers got destroyed leaving Tokyo Tower as the last building standing. [[spoiler: And it ends with Kamui beheading Fuuma which makes him the sole survivor of the cast]].

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* The 1996 movie of ''Manga/{{X1999}}'' is regarded as this by modern viewers since it was released while the manga was ongoing. While the Dragons of Heaven are still benevolent, the Dragons of Earth become sociopaths including Kusanagi who is the TokenGoodTeammate and a FriendToAllLivingThings. There's also the fact the both sides ended up [[KillThemAll losing their members]] and the barriers got destroyed leaving Tokyo Tower as the last building standing. [[spoiler: And it ends with Kamui beheading Fuuma which makes him the sole survivor of the cast]].

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