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* HumanityEnsues: Carrier gets sucked in with the rest of the team into ComicBookLimbo in issue #6 and becomes incarnated as a young woman. She's freaking out because she's both in the midst of a literal meltdown where will explode and she's never had a human body that feels the stress of a metaphorical breakdown before. Kate manages to talk her through it.

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* HumanityEnsues: Carrier gets sucked in with the rest of the team into ComicBookLimbo in issue #6 and becomes incarnated as a young woman. She's freaking out because she's both in the midst of a literal meltdown where and will soon explode and she's never had a human body that feels the stress of a metaphorical breakdown before. Kate manages to talk her through it.



** Issue #6 involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was [[CurtainCall concluded]] or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.

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** Issue #6 involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you one can tell your if their book was [[CurtainCall concluded]] or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember one remembers before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.
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* CanonCharacterAllAlong: Drummer is revealed in the final issue to not be a variation of The Drummer, but Jakita Wagner looking for her old team.

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* CanonCharacterAllAlong: Drummer [[spoiler:Drummer is revealed in the final issue #6 to not be a variation of The Drummer, but Jakita Wagner looking for her old team.]]



* FisherKing: Issue 4 is about a new Century Baby, and [[LegacyCharacter latest incarnation of a Jenny]], named Jenny Crisis whose emotional well-being is connected to the state of the world. She feels chronic anxiety from the tension around the globe, and when she succumbs to it disasters happen. Conversely, when she feels good, prosperity occurs. When she gains control over her powers, she can channel and redirect any negative emotions from wherever it gathers towards places that can cope with it better.

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* FisherKing: Issue 4 #4 is about a new Century Baby, and [[LegacyCharacter latest incarnation of a Jenny]], named Jenny Crisis whose emotional well-being is connected to the state of the world. She feels chronic anxiety from the tension around the globe, and when she succumbs to it disasters happen. Conversely, when she feels good, prosperity occurs. When she gains control over her powers, she can channel and redirect any negative emotions from wherever it gathers towards places that can cope with it better.



* HumanityEnsues: Carrier gets sucked in with the rest of the team into ComicBookLimbo in the finale issue and becomes incarnated as a young woman. She's freaking out because she's both in the midst of a literal meltdown where will explode and she's never had a human body that feels the stress of a metaphorical breakdown before. Kate manages to talk her through it.

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* HumanityEnsues: Carrier gets sucked in with the rest of the team into ComicBookLimbo in the finale issue #6 and becomes incarnated as a young woman. She's freaking out because she's both in the midst of a literal meltdown where will explode and she's never had a human body that feels the stress of a metaphorical breakdown before. Kate manages to talk her through it.



** The final issue involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was [[CurtainCall concluded]] or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.

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** The final issue Issue #6 involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was [[CurtainCall concluded]] or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.
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** The final issue involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was concluded or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.

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** The final issue involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was concluded [[CurtainCall concluded]] or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.

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* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: Issue #3 is a meta-commentary on Batman's WolverinePublicity as it applies to his legacy in the wake of ''[[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Nights]]''. The Duke Thomas that shows up is from the [[ComicBook/TalesFromTheDarkMultiverse Dark Multiverse story]] where the heroes utterly failed to stop Barbatos and were all turned into monsters that destroyed the world, lead by Barbatos corrupted Batman. Duke concludes that Batman is a narrative contagion, [[BlackHoleSue sucking up everyone else's lives into his crusade]] and corrupting them to seek "justice" in a way that gratifies Bruce's self-aggrandizement of his trauma. [[WellIntentionedExtremist He vows to destroy Batman's legacy by any means necessary]] to save the multiverse from his infection.%%in-universe

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Issue #3 is a meta-commentary on Batman's WolverinePublicity as it applies to his legacy in the wake of ''[[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal Dark Nights]]''. The Duke Thomas that shows up is from the [[ComicBook/TalesFromTheDarkMultiverse Dark Multiverse story]] where the heroes utterly failed to stop Barbatos and were all turned into monsters that destroyed the world, lead by Barbatos corrupted Batman. Duke concludes that Batman is a narrative contagion, [[BlackHoleSue sucking up everyone else's lives into his crusade]] and corrupting them to seek "justice" in a way that gratifies Bruce's self-aggrandizement of his trauma. [[WellIntentionedExtremist He vows to destroy Batman's legacy by any means necessary]] to save the multiverse from his infection.%%in-universe%%in-universe
** The final issue involves going to the literal ComicBookLimbo where it's [[DiscussedTrope discussed by the residents]] that you can tell your book was concluded or [[CutShort canceled]] if the last thing they remember before arriving is a [[AndTheAdventureContinues hopeful open ending]] or a {{Cliffhanger}}.



* StealthSequel: It starts out looking like a Bat-book, if an unusual one, and over the course of the first issue quietly establishes itself to be "''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}'' in the DCU".
* StealthSequel: Not so stealth since it was hinted since the very first issue, but the finale issue reveals that Drummer is really Jakita Wagner and that she isn't in the Outsiders' story, they're all in hers.

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* StealthSequel: It starts out looking like a Bat-book, if an unusual one, and over the course of the first issue quietly establishes itself to be "''ComicBook/{{Planetary}}'' in the DCU".
* StealthSequel: Not so stealth since it was hinted since the very first issue, but the finale issue
DCU". Gets more explicit when Drummer reveals that Drummer is really she's Jakita Wagner and outright says that she isn't in the Outsiders' story, they're all team is in hers.a sequel to her story.
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* CanonCharacterAllAlong: Drummer is revealed in the final issue to not be a variation of The Drummer, but Jakita Wagner looking for her old team.
* ComicBookLimbo: A mishap with Carrier gets the entire team sucked into the literal Limbo for characters of old and canceled DC Comics. Drummer wanted to get their all along because she's really Jakita Wagner looking for her missing teammates. They live out suburban bliss as ordinary people.


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* HumanityEnsues: Carrier gets sucked in with the rest of the team into ComicBookLimbo in the finale issue and becomes incarnated as a young woman. She's freaking out because she's both in the midst of a literal meltdown where will explode and she's never had a human body that feels the stress of a metaphorical breakdown before. Kate manages to talk her through it.


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* StealthSequel: Not so stealth since it was hinted since the very first issue, but the finale issue reveals that Drummer is really Jakita Wagner and that she isn't in the Outsiders' story, they're all in hers.

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* BroadStrokes: #2 gives a brief rundown of the history of the ComicBook/ChallengersOfTheUnknown up to the current New Challengers. Following post-ComicBook/DarkCrisis "everything is canon" policy, this includes the original team, the 90s DC Weirdoverse version, and the ''ComicBook/New52'' reality show version. The fact the New 52 Challs were alternate selves of the previous incarnations is glossed over.

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#2 gives a brief rundown of the history of the ComicBook/ChallengersOfTheUnknown up to the current New Challengers. Following post-ComicBook/DarkCrisis "everything is canon" policy, this includes the original team, the 90s DC Weirdoverse version, and the ''ComicBook/New52'' reality show version. The fact the New 52 Challs were alternate selves of the previous incarnations is glossed over.over.
** #5 calls back to Nocturna's appearance in ''Comicbook/BatwomanRebirth''. But while that story used the ActuallyNotAVampire version of Nocturna (although she played up her similarity to one to prey on Kate's love of horror movies), this version definitely ''is''.
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* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: In Issue #5, Drummer makes a deal with a demon. He provides her with information that she wants, and in exchange she's to commit a murder for him. [[spoiler:He neglects to specify ''who'' the victim must be, and thus she just murders him and is on her way.]]
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* RefusalOfTheCall: By multiple characters. Every member of the team declines being conventional superheroes, Kate feeling like the conflict is meaningless and Drummer repeatedly mocking the spandex crowd. Jenny Crisis also declines joining the team and elects to operate solo, incidentally dismissing the actions her predecessors had taken by mocking the idea that superheroes act like an Authority.
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** In #4, when Jenny Crisis questions why superheroes act like they're the moral authority, Drummer agrees "And Comicbook/TheAuthority can get █████ ."
* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says the previous incarnation was Jenny Sparks, Spirit of the 20th Century, but adds "We even had a Jenny Quantum once ... but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/Stormwatch2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.

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** In #4, when Jenny Crisis questions why superheroes act like they're the moral authority, Drummer agrees "And Comicbook/TheAuthority ComicBook/TheAuthority can get █████ ."
* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says the previous incarnation was Jenny Sparks, Spirit of the 20th Century, but adds "We even had a Jenny Quantum once ... but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/Stormwatch2011'' ''ComicBook/Stormwatch2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.
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** In #4, when Jenny Crisis questions why superheroes act like they're the moral authority, Drummer agrees "and Comicbook/TheAuthority can get █████ ."

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** In #4, when Jenny Crisis questions why superheroes act like they're the moral authority, Drummer agrees "and "And Comicbook/TheAuthority can get █████ ."

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* {{Pun}}: In issue #3, [[spoiler:the Joker/Batman fusion, called "The Smiling Bat", announces to his Metaverse counterparts they have a fox in the "bat-house".]] It is Luke '''Fox'''.
* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There even used to be a Jenny Quantum, but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/Stormwatch2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.

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In issue #3, [[spoiler:the Joker/Batman fusion, called "The Smiling Bat", announces to his Metaverse counterparts they have a fox in the "bat-house".]] It is Luke '''Fox'''.
** In #4, when Jenny Crisis questions why superheroes act like they're the moral authority, Drummer agrees "and Comicbook/TheAuthority can get █████ ."
* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There the previous incarnation was Jenny Sparks, Spirit of the 20th Century, but adds "We even used to be had a Jenny Quantum, Quantum once ... but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/Stormwatch2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.
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* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There even used to be a Jenny Quantum, but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/StormwatchNew2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.

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* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There even used to be a Jenny Quantum, but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/StormwatchNew2011'' ''Comicbook/Stormwatch2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.
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* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There even used to be a Jenny Quantum, but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several CosmicRetcons since ''Comicbook/StormwatchNewe52'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.

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* RippleEffectProofMemory: In #4, when Drummer tells Jenny Crisis the history of the Jennies, she says "There even used to be a Jenny Quantum, but not any more, I guess." This suggests that one of the several CosmicRetcons {{Cosmic Retcon}}s since ''Comicbook/StormwatchNewe52'' ''Comicbook/StormwatchNew2011'' saw Crisis replace Quantum as Spirit of the 21st Century, but Drummer still remembers both versions.

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