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* UnscrupulousHero: Veronica’s intent is always to catch the bad guy, but her methods can range from manipulating an officer in order to steal evidence or eavesdropping on therapy sessions. Her motivation is almost always revenge rather than justice. She certainly enjoys her KickTheDog moments, but her targets [[KickTheSonOfABitch are always REALLY terrible people so the audience doesn't flinch too much]].

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* UnscrupulousHero: Veronica’s intent is always to catch the bad guy, but her methods can range from manipulating an officer in order to steal evidence or eavesdropping on therapy sessions. Her motivation is almost always revenge rather than justice. She certainly enjoys her KickTheDog moments, but her targets [[KickTheSonOfABitch are always REALLY terrible people so the audience doesn't flinch too much]].much.
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* MagneticHero: While she doesn't want to admit it, she does draw the respect and friendship of a lot of people from different walks of life, many of whom end up becoming her go-to guys and girls for particular skills she can't do herself (such as Weevil for mechanics and thievery, Mac for hacking and IT, so on). Even jackasses like Dick aren't immune from this, as he begrudgingly begins to fall in with her group (although more through his friendship with Logan than anything else).

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* TheIrishMob: Essentially, their role in the story, though they aren't as organized.

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* TheIrishMob: Essentially, their role in the story, though they aren't as organized. While most of them are Irish, they have at least one black guy working for them in season 4.


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* PetTheDog: When Matty tells him that her dad died, Liam offers his condolences.
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* RageBreakingPoint: Duncan spends most of season 1 dealing with one tragedy after another, first dealing with his sister Lily's death and the possibility he might be a murderer, a tearful confrontation with Veronica and the admission he's madly in love with a girl he (mistakenly) believes to be his own sister, and then discovering that his best friend Logan is now seeing her. All it takes is for his car door to jam for him to fly into a blind fury.

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* RageBreakingPoint: Duncan spends most of season 1 dealing with one tragedy after another, first dealing with his sister Lily's death and the possibility he might be a murderer, a tearful confrontation with his ex Veronica and the admission he's madly in love with a girl he (mistakenly) believes to be his own sister, and then discovering that his best friend Logan is now seeing her. All it takes is for his car door to jam for him to fly into a blind fury.



* ScaryBlackMan: Unusually for this trope, he's not powerfully built, but that doesn't make him any less scary as Kane Software's head of security. Veronica often treats him as TheDreaded.

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* ScaryBlackMan: Unusually for this trope, he's not powerfully built, but that doesn't make him any less scary as Kane Software's head of security. Of course, he towers over Veronica because TeensAreShort, who often treats him as TheDreaded.
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* NotMeThisTime: [[spoiler:He is one of the suspects for the bus crash in season 2 since he had motive to kill Veronica as a witness and the explosive came from a stuntman he used to work with. Turns out it's not him. It's Cassidy, who was targeting a different group of witnesses.]]
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* RageBreakingPoint: Duncan spends most of season 1 dealing with one tragedy after another, first dealing with his sister Lily's death and the possibility he might be a murderer, a tearful confrontation with Veronica and the admission he's madly in love with a girl he (mistakenly) believes to be his own sister, and then discovering that his best friend Logan is now seeing her. All it takes is for his car door to jam for him to fly into a blind fury.
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* SinisterSororitySisters: Lilith House are a StrawFeminist sorority that pretend to be feminist and open-minded but is in fact trying to frame the fraternity of Hearst College for a series of brutal rapes happening on campus, by shaving their members' heads, which stops the actual rapist from getting caught. They also perform an AssShove on Chip Diller, the fraternity's head, hide weed for their sorority mother, and run scams to get free food from campus.
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* BullyingADragon: [[spoiler:When Keith starts to look into him, Woody attempts to intimidate him to keep quiet as if he were one of the impressionable boys he molested. Keith is essentially a HardboiledDetective and ''the former Sheriff of Neptune''. Keith even points out how stupid this is.]]


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* FailedAttemptAtScaring: [[spoiler:He attempts to intimidate Keith when he starts to investigate Woody. Keith says he really picked the wrong target, pointing out that he's not some little kid who can be scared so easily, and that he is going to bring him down. Which he does.]]
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* IncidentalVillain: Not quite a PunchClockVillain as he seems committed constantly to his job at Kane Security, but his main commitment is loyalty to the Kanes, rather than

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* IncidentalVillain: Not quite a PunchClockVillain as he seems committed constantly to his job at Kane Security, but his main commitment is loyalty to the Kanes, rather than the law.
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* MagneticHero: Although Lilly isn't an ''hero'' per se, she is the ultimately character who brings everyone together:

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* MagneticHero: Although Lilly isn't an a ''hero'' per se, she is the ultimately character who brings everyone together:



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* AssholeVictim: He raped Veronica and was responsible for the bus crush, so it's hard to feel bad for him when he jumped off the roof.

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* AssholeVictim: He raped Veronica and was responsible for the bus crush, crash, so it's hard to feel bad for him when he jumped off the roof.


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* BitchInSheepsClothing: He was introduced as a shy, decent kid until the season two finale of him being a mass murder and a rapist to Veronica.

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* AssholeVictim: He raped Veronica, so it's hard to feel bad for him when he jumped off the roof.

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* AssholeVictim: He raped Veronica, Veronica and was responsible for the bus crush, so it's hard to feel bad for him when he jumped off the roof.


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* PetTheDog: In the movie, she shared at her former classmates who have died at the Neptune High Reunion, but subverted for Veronica.
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* AmicableExes: When she reappears in season 4, she is quite happy to see that Logan and Veronica are together [[spoiler:and getting married]].
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* TookALevelInBadass: Goes from being an understandably traumatized survivor of a brutal rape to being the one to save Veronica's life by confronting said rapist.

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* ReallyGetsAround: Or, as Mac put it, "One Woman Red Light District".
* RomanticFalseLead: She and Logan get together midway through Season 3, but their relationship has long since been over by the movie, and it's never mentioned again.

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* NiceGirl: She immediately insists on becoming friends with Mac and Veronica, both of whom are varying degrees of aloof. She eventually breaks through their shells and they get much closer to her.
* OddFriendship: Perky, bubbly Parker, meet your roommate, the stoic, nerdy Mac. Despite this, the two become very close, with Mac even giving her a DeclarationOfProtection when she gets close to leaving Hearst from the trauma of her rape.
* ReallyGetsAround: Or, as Mac put it, "One Woman Red Light District".
District". She quits this after she's raped as she's traumatized.
* RomanticFalseLead: She and Logan get together midway through Season 3, but their relationship has long since been over by the movie, and it's never mentioned again. She does appear in Season 4, over a decade later, and gives her blessings to Logan and Veronica getting married.
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* TookALevelInBadass: In the first three seasons, he was UnskilledButStrong and his main method in a fight was to basically keep attacking until either he or his opponent stopped twitching. Once he joins the Navy and learns military style martial arts [[note]]which is known as MCMAP, combining judo, capoeira, wrestling, Muay Thai, and others[[/note]], he becomes a lot more graceful and deft in a fight, to the point where he takes down two hired thugs in a way that would make [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Buffy Summers]] proud.


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* TookALevelInKindness: Joining the Navy and growing into adulthood mellows him out substantially. He's now much less likely to solve his problems by throwing punches, and is generally more of a chill person.

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%%* AbusiveParents: The most important bit of backstory we get about him.
* CharacterizationMarchesOn: His "you should have asked the [[Film/TheWizardOfOz Wizard]] for..." CatchPhrase was dropped after ThePilot.

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%%* * AbusiveParents: The most important bit of backstory we get about him.
him: when the Mannings try to weasel their way out of being caught by him (via Veronica and Duncan), Lamb isn't having it and spends the rest of the night sitting outside of their house as a threat that if he catches wind of their abuse again, he'll be on their asses.
* BerserkButton: Child abuse. That's one of the only things that will genuinely make him become scarily good at his job.
* CharacterizationMarchesOn: His "you should have asked the [[Film/TheWizardOfOz Wizard]] for..." CatchPhrase was dropped after ThePilot. That said, Wallace does throw it back at him when they have an interaction much later in the series and Lamb [[ButForMeItWasTuesday only vaguely recognizes him.]]



** If Veronica presents him with evidence, he will act on it and do his job. He does begrudgingly admit that Veronica is a damn good detective, even warning the FBI that she's someone who could rival them.

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** If Veronica presents him with evidence, irrefutable evidence that he can't deny, he will act on it and do his job. He does begrudgingly admit that Veronica is a damn good detective, even warning the FBI that she's someone who could rival them.them (which is proven true).



* WorthyOpponent: He might not like Veronica (and vice versa), but he does admit respect for her detective skills, and when she presents things he should use to do his job, he typically doesn't question it further before acting on it.

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* WorthyOpponent: He might not like Veronica (and vice versa), but he does admit respect for her detective skills, and when she presents indisputable things he should use to do his job, job (that he knows for sure aren't a RedHerring or false lead), he typically doesn't question it further before acting on it.
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* PetTheDog: While he's an incompetent jackass who should not be anywhere near his position, he isn't completely irredeemable. ** Notably, he lets Veronica and Duncan go after they're caught breaking into the Manning house because they were trying to help Meg's sister, who was being abused. He's absolutely not impressed with Mr. Manning and spends the rest of the night menacingly sitting outside of his house in his police cruiser as a warning.
** If Veronica presents him with evidence, he will act on it and do his job. He does begrudgingly admit that Veronica is a damn good detective, even warning the FBI that she's someone who could rival them.


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* WorthyOpponent: He might not like Veronica (and vice versa), but he does admit respect for her detective skills, and when she presents things he should use to do his job, he typically doesn't question it further before acting on it.
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* StoutStrength: He's stocky and got a bit of a gut, but he was the sheriff at one point and can kick some serious ass, notably winning a fight against the taller and much more imposing Aaron in the finale of the first season.
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!!! '''Kanes Family'''

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!! Jake Kane
-->'''Played by''': Creator/KyleSecor
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-> '''Appearances:''' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (series) | ''[[Literature/VeronicaMars The Thousand-Dollar Tan Line]]''

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!! Jake Kane
-->'''Played by''': Creator/KyleSecor
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Fighting Fitzpatricks]]

-> '''Appearances:''' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (series) | ''[[Literature/VeronicaMars The Thousand-Dollar Tan Line]]''



Duncan and Lilly's father.

* TheBusCameBack: Twice; he returns both in the finale of Season 3, ''and'' the finale of Season 4 briefly.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: To a point. He employs at least one professional assassin as his head of security, but otherwise he doesn't seem to be engaging in particularly cut-throat business practices and became a billionaire on merit. Truly not the case in Season 3, though, where he's definitely this (and maybe worse).
* LukeIMightBeYourFather: In the first season, Veronica has reason to suspect Jake Kane — the father of her ex-boyfriend Duncan, and former lover of her mother — might be her biological father. [[spoiler:He isn't.]]
* RedHerring: He didn't kill Lilly.
* SameCharacterButDifferent: In Season 1, he only really figured into the mystery in that he was a RedHerring and Keith suspected him. In Season 3, he is a megalomaniacal cult leader.

!! Celeste Kane
-->'''Played by''': Creator/LisaThornhill
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-> '''Appearances:''' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (series) | ''Film/VeronicaMars'' (film)

Duncan and Lilly's mother.

* AbusiveMom: Celeste was, at best, indifferent to Lilly; at worst, she is emotionally abusive, overbearing, and impossible to please.
* EvilMatriarch: Although she ultimately had nothing to do with Lilly's murder, she was still a nasty, abusive woman who was horrible to Veronica even after she caught the killer.
* EvilRedhead: Celeste had very dark red hair and was ''very'' antagonistic towards Veronica and Lilly.
* RichBitch: Celeste is unbelievably horrible to Veronica, even ''after'' Veronica has solved Lilly's murder in Season 2.
* UngratefulBastard: Veronica found Lilly's murderer. But, nope, Celeste still hates Veronica with a burning passion and will make it constantly clear.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Her last appearance in the actual series was "Donut Run", meaning that she was never shown reacting to Duncan's flight, [[spoiler:Aaron Echolls' trial or murder]], or anything else. While TheBusCameBack for the film, she only appears for a single scene.

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!!! '''Kanes Family'''
[[folder: Jake Kane]]
!! '''Jake Kane'''
-->'''Played by''': Creator/KyleSecor
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-> '''Appearances:''' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (series) | ''[[Literature/VeronicaMars The Thousand-Dollar Tan Line]]''

Duncan and Lilly's father.

* TheBusCameBack: Twice; he returns both in the finale of Season 3, ''and'' the finale of Season 4 briefly.
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: To a point. He employs at least one professional assassin as his head of security, but otherwise he doesn't seem to be engaging in particularly cut-throat business practices and became a billionaire on merit. Truly not the case in Season 3, though, where he's definitely this (and maybe worse).
* LukeIMightBeYourFather: In the first season, Veronica has reason to suspect Jake Kane — the father of her ex-boyfriend Duncan, and former lover of her mother — might be her biological father. [[spoiler:He isn't.]]
* RedHerring: He didn't kill Lilly.
* SameCharacterButDifferent: In Season 1, he only really figured into the mystery in that he was a RedHerring and Keith suspected him. In Season 3, he is a megalomaniacal cult leader.
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!! '''Celeste Kane'''
-->'''Played by''': Creator/LisaThornhill
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-> '''Appearances:''' ''Series/VeronicaMars'' (series) | ''Film/VeronicaMars'' (film)

Duncan and Lilly's mother.

* AbusiveMom: Celeste was, at best, indifferent to Lilly; at worst, she is emotionally abusive, overbearing, and impossible to please.
* EvilMatriarch: Although she ultimately had nothing to do with Lilly's murder, she was still a nasty, abusive woman who was horrible to Veronica even after she caught the killer.
* EvilRedhead: Celeste had very dark red hair and was ''very'' antagonistic towards Veronica and Lilly.
* RichBitch: Celeste is unbelievably horrible to Veronica, even ''after'' Veronica has solved Lilly's murder in Season 2.
* UngratefulBastard: Veronica found Lilly's murderer. But, nope, Celeste still hates Veronica with a burning passion and will make it constantly clear.
* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Her last appearance in the actual series was "Donut Run", meaning that she was never shown reacting to Duncan's flight, [[spoiler:Aaron Echolls' trial or murder]], or anything else. While TheBusCameBack for the film, she only appears for a single scene.

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Again, not sure where this Penn Epner fiance plot is coming from. Perhaps confusing for the fact that the first bomb maimed the congressman's younger brother and killed *his* fiance? Either way, no dead fiance of Penn Epner's is ever mentioned.


* FromNobodyToNightmare: From a nerdy average guy to [[spoiler:a bomber and mass murderer[]], thanks to [[spoiler:the death of his fiancee]].

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* FromNobodyToNightmare: From a nerdy average guy to [[spoiler:a bomber and mass murderer[]], thanks to [[spoiler:the death of his fiancee]].murderer]].

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* PutOnABus: Her Last Appearance in "Happy Go Lucky".

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* PutOnABus: Her Last Appearance in "Happy Go Lucky".Lucky" until the movie ten years later.
* PutOnABusToHell: What her future is after she disappears from the series, as confirmed by the movie. [[spoiler:Though she's held onto her high society position, it's much more fragile after the revelation that her father was a pedophile and his death. She uses drugs with the other [=09ers=] and is manipulated into years of SexualExtortion, until her sudden murder by her rapist stalker.]]


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* MinorityPoliceOfficer: She's a black chief of police, but she's also portrayed much more positively than the attitude of TheBadGuysAreCops and PoliceAreUseless in Series 1-4.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: She's much less corrupt and overall more approachable than the Lamb brothers before her, and is more willing to listen to the Mars family overall than being coerced into it.
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* DidNotGetTheGirl: After his relationships with Veronica and Meg, He ends up neither of them.
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* PutOnABus: Her Last Appearance in "Happy Go Lucky".
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* EverythingsBetterWithLlamas: Logan said his mother wanted alpacas.
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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: The PCHers were disappeared after season two and hardly mentioned them in season three. But except for Weevil.

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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: The PCHers [=PCHers=] were disappeared after season two and hardly mentioned them in season three. But except for Weevil.
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Of the 09ers, the only one who loathes Veronica.


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* ChuckCunninghamSyndrome: The PCHers were disappeared after season two and hardly mentioned them in season three. But except for Weevil.

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