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There's nothing to suggest that Yoda knew Ahsoka - who's technically not even a Jedi at this point in the story - was still alive post-Battle of Yavin. Same with Vos; heck, we the audience don't even know if he's still alive post-{{Kenobi}} at the time of this writing.
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* ManipulativeBastard: "Bastard" may be a bit harsh, but alongside Obi-Wan, Yoda deliberately concealed Luke's relationship to Vader, knowing that the truth would compromise Luke's mission to destroy the Sith. The bit in his dramatic FinalWords where he said that after his death Luke would be the last Jedi turns out to be complete and utter BS since Ahsoka Tano was still out there (Although we didn't know it in 1983 since her character hadn't been written yet, and she may have been assumed dead after confronting Vader on Malachor and ending up in the World Between Worlds for an unspecified length of time) and Quinlan Vos to name another. Luckily for everyone, Yoda misjudged the situation entirely -- Luke's unconditional love for his father is what ultimately saves the day.
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* ManipulativeBastard: "Bastard" may be a bit harsh, but alongside Obi-Wan, Yoda deliberately concealed Luke's relationship to Vader, knowing believing that the truth would compromise Luke's mission to destroy the Sith. The bit in his dramatic FinalWords where he said that after his death Luke would be the last Jedi turns out to be complete and utter BS since Ahsoka Tano was still out there (Although we didn't know it in 1983 since her character hadn't been written yet, and she may have been assumed dead after confronting Vader on Malachor and ending up in the World Between Worlds for an unspecified length of time) and Quinlan Vos to name another. Luckily for everyone, Yoda misjudged the situation entirely -- Luke's unconditional love for his father is what Luke ultimately saves the day.day despite knowing Vader is his father.
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List specific examples. Also, Legends stuff goes on the Legends page.
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* LackOfEmpathy: His dogmatic belief in the Jedi Code's forbidding of attachment causes him no small number of issues throughout the last decades of his life.
** In ''Legends'', the ''Dark Rendezvous'' novel implies that he's also speaking from personal experience-–he has lived for centuries and if he dwelt on the pain of every loved one he'd ever lost in that time period, he'd be an emotional wreck, pointing out that he has loved and hated more than even an old man like Dooku can imagine. So, he is not uncaring, mostly just out of touch compared to other long-lived individuals like Yaddle, thus struggling to connect with a 22 year old Anakin.
** Yoda also struggles to connect with Luke, which causes friction and leads to Luke willingly walking into the Empire's trap on Bespin when he has visions of his friends being tortured there. When Luke asks if he should let his friends suffer and die, [[BluntYes Yoda bluntly replies that he should]].
** In ''Legends'', the ''Dark Rendezvous'' novel implies that he's also speaking from personal experience-–he has lived for centuries and if he dwelt on the pain of every loved one he'd ever lost in that time period, he'd be an emotional wreck, pointing out that he has loved and hated more than even an old man like Dooku can imagine. So, he is not uncaring, mostly just out of touch compared to other long-lived individuals like Yaddle, thus struggling to connect with a 22 year old Anakin.
** Yoda also struggles to connect with Luke, which causes friction and leads to Luke willingly walking into the Empire's trap on Bespin when he has visions of his friends being tortured there. When Luke asks if he should let his friends suffer and die, [[BluntYes Yoda bluntly replies that he should]].
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* LackOfEmpathy: He struggles to connect with Luke during their intial time of Dagobah, which causes friction and leads to Luke willingly walking into the Empire's trap on Bespin when he has visions of his friends being tortured there. When Luke asks if he should let his friends suffer and die, [[BluntYes Yoda bluntly replies that he should]].
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First off, Yoda and the Jedi Council being unable to sense Palpatine's Sith nature isn't necessarily down to a lack of wisdom on their part as opposed to Palpatine just being that good at hiding it. Second, the Jedi don't enable the Republic's corruption; as defined by Lucas, they're subordinate to the Chancellor and the Senate, meaning they can only do so much when their bosses don't want to co-operate with them. Thirdly, the "child soldiers" is the result of Palpatine - again, as defined by Lucas - pushing them to fight in a war he manufactured as part of a gambit to make his planned dictatorship more appealing to the masses, with the alternative being to refuse to participate and let Republic soldiers and civilians get slaughtered by the likes of Dooku, Grievous, Ventress, the Defoliator and the droid armies. As Mace points out near the start of AOTC, the Jedi are peacekeepers as opposed to soldiers. Finally, the Jedi do not enable the creation of the clone army; if anything it's the exact opposite, with the Jedi Council rejecting Sifo-Dyas's plan to create such an army, Sifo-Dyas going behind their back to commission it anyway, and finally Palpatine and Dooku killing him and taking control of the Republic for their own ends.
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* InformedAbility: Downplayed. While he's revered for his great wisdom, Yoda can also be pretty damn short-sighted. Not only did he and the Council outright fail to sense Palpatine's true nature, but their enablement of the Republic's corruption, child soldiers, and a clone army basically sealed the Jedi Order's downfall. Likewise, for all of his centuries as a Jedi, Yoda's understanding of the Light Side's fundamental elements (e.g. compassion, redemption, forgiveness, etc...) can be somewhat lacking. One of the biggest examples by far was when he argued the DarkSide's hold on others as "absolute", something younger Jedi have personally disproven.
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* InformedAbility: Downplayed. While he's revered for his great wisdom, Yoda can also be pretty damn short-sighted. Not only did he and the Council outright fail to sense Palpatine's true nature, but their enablement of the Republic's corruption, child soldiers, and a clone army basically sealed the Jedi Order's downfall. Likewise, for all of wisdom - acquired over his many centuries as a Jedi, Jedi - Yoda's understanding of the Light Side's fundamental elements (e.g. compassion, redemption, forgiveness, etc...) can be somewhat lacking. One of the biggest examples by far was when he argued the DarkSide's hold on others as "absolute", something younger Jedi have personally disproven.
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This reads more like something that belongs under Alternative Character Interpretation.
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* IncorruptiblePurePureness:
** While there are several examples of GoodIsNotSoft among Jedi and Yoda himself [[LetsGetDangerous can be a good example]], it's clear that he firmly stays away from the DarkSide. This is also subverted, as "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]" shows that he isn't ''entirely'' incorruptible, as the trial of hubris had him confronting his own [[EnemyWithout inner darkness]], born from "spending [his] days in the decadence of war", and then DoubleSubverted in that he overcomes his own hubris by acknowledging that he does have a Dark Side and then rejecting it.
** It's possible in ''Revenge of the Sith'' that Yoda's matching Sidious' power at the end of their battle came from him briefly tapping into the Dark Side, as his facial expression turned ''scary'' while he started deflecting the Force lightning back. His self-imposed exile may have been an attempt to avoid falling into it again by avoiding open conflict with the Sith. Certainly, the ''Legends'' novel ''Dark Rendezvous'' gives us a glimpse of what Dark Yoda would be like, when Yoda deliberately touches the Dark Side for a moment to give Dooku - who has been trying to persuade him to Fall - a look at what he would get. Dooku is utterly horrified and instantly concludes that Dark Yoda wouldn't be as bad as Sidious - he would be ''infinitely'' worse.
** While there are several examples of GoodIsNotSoft among Jedi and Yoda himself [[LetsGetDangerous can be a good example]], it's clear that he firmly stays away from the DarkSide. This is also subverted, as "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]" shows that he isn't ''entirely'' incorruptible, as the trial of hubris had him confronting his own [[EnemyWithout inner darkness]], born from "spending [his] days in the decadence of war", and then DoubleSubverted in that he overcomes his own hubris by acknowledging that he does have a Dark Side and then rejecting it.
** It's possible in ''Revenge of the Sith'' that Yoda's matching Sidious' power at the end of their battle came from him briefly tapping into the Dark Side, as his facial expression turned ''scary'' while he started deflecting the Force lightning back. His self-imposed exile may have been an attempt to avoid falling into it again by avoiding open conflict with the Sith. Certainly, the ''Legends'' novel ''Dark Rendezvous'' gives us a glimpse of what Dark Yoda would be like, when Yoda deliberately touches the Dark Side for a moment to give Dooku - who has been trying to persuade him to Fall - a look at what he would get. Dooku is utterly horrified and instantly concludes that Dark Yoda wouldn't be as bad as Sidious - he would be ''infinitely'' worse.
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**IncorruptiblePurePureness: While there are several examples of GoodIsNotSoft among Jedi and Yoda himself [[LetsGetDangerous can be a good example]], it's clear that he firmly stays away from the DarkSide. This is also subverted, as "[[Recap/StarWarsTheCloneWarsS6E12Destiny Destiny]]" shows that he isn't ''entirely'' incorruptible, as the trial of hubris had him confronting his own [[EnemyWithout inner darkness]], born from "spending [his] days in the decadence of war", and then DoubleSubverted in that he overcomes his own hubris by acknowledging that he does have a Dark Side and then rejecting it.
** It's possible in ''Revenge of the Sith'' that Yoda's matching Sidious' power at the end of their battle came from him briefly tapping into the Dark Side, as his facial expression turned ''scary'' while he started deflecting the Force lightning back. His self-imposed exile may have been an attempt to avoid falling into it again by avoiding open conflict with the Sith. Certainly, the ''Legends'' novel ''Dark Rendezvous'' gives us a glimpse of what Dark Yoda would be like, when Yoda deliberately touches the Dark Side for a moment to give Dooku - who has been trying to persuade him to Fall - a look at what he would get. Dooku is utterly horrified and instantly concludes that Dark Yoda wouldn't be as bad as Sidious - he would be ''infinitely'' worse.it.
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** It's possible in ''Revenge of the Sith'' that Yoda's matching Sidious' power at the end of their battle came from him briefly tapping into the Dark Side, as his facial expression turned ''scary'' while he started deflecting the Force lightning back. His self-imposed exile may have been an attempt to avoid falling into it again by avoiding open conflict with the Sith. Certainly, the ''Legends'' novel ''Dark Rendezvous'' gives us a glimpse of what Dark Yoda would be like, when Yoda deliberately touches the Dark Side for a moment to give Dooku - who has been trying to persuade him to Fall - a look at what he would get. Dooku is utterly horrified and instantly concludes that Dark Yoda wouldn't be as bad as Sidious - he would be ''infinitely'' worse.
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Yoda's issue isn't that Anakin's afraid; Jedi are allowed to feel emotions as long as they don't let themselves be controlled by them. It's that he's got an attachment - which in Lucas's terms means a tie that one won't let go of easily to the point of unwise and emotionally unhealthy behavior - that might cause him to fall to the dark side. Remember, he's talking to the same character who'll go on to join a Sith Lord and massacre thousands - including children(!) - because he's THAT desperate to save the love of his life.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: In ''The Phantom Menace'' he gives a big speech, admonishing young Anakin for being afraid to lose his mother, saying that fear leads to the Dark side. Yet, at the end of the same film, he tells Obi-Wan that the reason he disapproves of training Anakin is that he's afraid of doing so.
-->'''Yoda''': Fear is the path to the Dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger lead to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
-->'''Also Yoda''': TheChosenOne the boy may be. Nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training.
** Similarly, despite admonishing Anakin's CowBoyCop actions, Yoda clearly isn't above using them for his own means.
-->'''Yoda''': Fear is the path to the Dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger lead to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
-->'''Also Yoda''': TheChosenOne the boy may be. Nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training.
** Similarly, despite admonishing Anakin's CowBoyCop actions, Yoda clearly isn't above using them for his own means.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: In ''The Phantom Menace'' he gives a big speech, admonishing young Anakin for being afraid to lose his mother, saying that fear leads to the Dark side. Yet, at the end of the same film, he tells Obi-Wan that the reason he disapproves of training Anakin is that he's afraid of doing so.
-->'''Yoda''': Fear is the path to the Dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger lead to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
-->'''Also Yoda''': TheChosenOne the boy may be. Nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training.
** Similarly, despiteDespite admonishing Anakin's CowBoyCop actions, Yoda clearly isn't above using them for his own means.
-->'''Yoda''': Fear is the path to the Dark side. Fear leads to anger, anger lead to hate. Hate leads to suffering. I sense much fear in you.
-->'''Also Yoda''': TheChosenOne the boy may be. Nevertheless, grave danger I fear in his training.
** Similarly, despite
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* YouDontLookLikeYou: Downplayed. His design in Film/RevengeOfTheSith is significantly different than that in Attack of the Clones, most notably having larger eyes and slightly more detailed amphibious skin.
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** Instead of giving a proper apology to Ahsoka due to her being thrown under the bus, he claims it was actually "her Great Trial." She's far from impressed and leaves the Order not long after.
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** Instead of giving a proper apology to Ahsoka due to her being thrown under the bus, he claims it was actually "her Great Trial." She's far from impressed and leaves the Order not long immediately after.
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->'''Voiced by:''' Creator/TerrenceCCarson (''The Clone Wars''[[note]]for the rest of the series[[/note]], ''Tales of the Jedi'')[[labelnote:Foreign [=VAs=]]]'''European French:''' Creator/JeanPaulPitolin; '''Latin American Spanish:''' Creator/VictorHugoAguilar (Prequel trilogy), Creator/BlasGarcia (''The Clone Wars'')[[/labelnote]]
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->'''Voiced by:''' Creator/TerrenceCCarson (''The Clone Wars''[[note]]for the rest of the series[[/note]], ''Tales of the Jedi'')[[labelnote:Foreign [=VAs=]]]'''European French:''' Creator/JeanPaulPitolin; Jacques Martial (Prequel Trilogy films), Creator/JeanPaulPitolin (other media since ''The Clone Wars''); '''Latin American Spanish:''' Creator/VictorHugoAguilar (Prequel trilogy), Creator/BlasGarcia (''The Clone Wars'')[[/labelnote]]
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->'''Voiced by:''' Creator/TerrenceCCarson (''The Clone Wars''[[note]]for the rest of the series[[/note]], ''Tales of the Jedi'')[[labelnote:Foreign [=VAs=]]]'''Latin [=VAs=]]]'''European French:''' Creator/JeanPaulPitolin; '''Latin American Spanish:''' Creator/VictorHugoAguilar (Prequel trilogy), Creator/BlasGarcia (''The Clone Wars'')[[/labelnote]]
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* CatSmile: This is his normal facial expression.
