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* BrokenAce: John is extremely unstable, troubled and paranoid on a good day but he compensates for his lack of mental well-being by being ludicrously competent at everything he sets out to do, able to keep up with the intellectual rigors of his work and stay ahead of both those chasing him and the authorities using just his wits and planning.
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* DeadpanSnarker: John's primary way of dealing with the stress of his daily life is to throw out barbed one-liners and snarky remarks at every opportunity. Any scene with his dad will have the two exchanging words like sarcasm is going out of style.

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[[caption-width-right:350: ''"It's okay. We got through it before, I will be here to do it again if I have to, okay? Okay? It'll be okay."'']]

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[[caption-width-right:350: ''"It's ''"Safety in numbers."'']]

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-> ''"For those of us who lie for a living, our only connection to reality are the people who really,'' really ''know us. And for me that was Valence, and only Valence."''

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->''"I'm not into any weird fantasy voyeur cosplay shit, or whatever the hell this whole thing is!"''



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[[caption-width-right:350: ''It's okay. We got through it before, I will be here to do it again if I have to, okay? Okay? It'll be okay.'']]
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* DespairEventHorizon: Hits this by the end of "Gilgamesh," nearly resulting in him [[spoiler: murdering Ben out of a false belief that he's been manipulating John and Miles (which would also mean that he was responsible for Miles' death) the entire time. It takes uncovering Miles' hidden recording in the Gilgamesh tablet to snap him out of it, and it's all but stated that if it hadn't, that he would have wound up killing himself too.]]
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* KnightInSourArmor: Over the course of his decades-long battle with Crowley, Ben has lost his family, his relationships with his wife and child, and even [[spoiler: wound up forced to fake his own suicide in front of his son, John.]] It's not surprising that his attitude towards fighting against him has steadily morphed into "at least if we manage to end this plan that's steadily devastated all of our lives by killing him, we can probably manage to keep our democracy from crumbling for another decade."


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* SmartPeoplePlayChess: Is shown playing chess with a young [[spoiler: John]] in flashbacks to his childhood.
* SourOutsideSadInside: A trait he shares with his son. It becomes steadily more apparent as the series goes on that a lot of Ben's more cruel or unkind behavior is done out of the knowledge that simply ''nothing else has worked'' over the last three decades of fighting against Crowley and his forces, and that at least being a snarky asshole who makes bad decisions for the greater good allows him to do something to keep the world safe, and allows him to keep [[spoiler: John]] safe in turn.
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* SmartPeoplePlayChess: Flashbacks show John eagerly playing chess with his father at a young age, and he is ''very'' much intelligent.
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* NumberObsession: It's shown that he developed a love of ciphers and number puzzles at a young age while attempting to open his father's safe with Miles, and it's shown to have persisted long into the modern day, apparently as a sort of self-soothing mechanism. Miles apparently even learned how to develop number puzzles on the fly for John to solve, and does so to calm him down during a breakdown, and he even makes Hailey lift a book of them while teaching her how to do an op at the gas station.


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* PhotographicMemory: Has an insane mind for lists, categories, and all things numbers, and is still pretty good with almost everything else. It's telling how good it is that he's able to crack Miles' password when given the opportunity, given only five attempts and an extremely limited timeframe to do it in, just with the knowledge of a bunch of number sequences Miles liked and a good memory for the cipher puzzles they'd make up together as children.


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* TheTell: Taps his thumb against the nearest surface repeatedly as a self-soothing method whenever he's anxious or on-edge.
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* TheSchizophreniaConspiracy: The show actually manages to avert this trope somewhat, given that the OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness that's setting out to destroy democracy and run the world is very much real and a direct threat to John and his friends, but John is still a person struggling to cope with a severe mental illness, under a severe amount of stress and completely out of his medication, that makes him extremely paranoid as a baseline and impacts his ability to perceive reality. Unsurprisingly, the worse his situation gets and the more stress he undergoes, the worse his ability to cope with his mental illness gets in turn, and he winds up convinced that no one in his life can be trusted and that they're all trying to manipulate him by the time of "Gilgamesh."

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!!John !!Jonathan "John" Weir



The main protagonist of the series, a corporate spy framed for the murder of a US Treasury investigator in the aftermath of a seemingly-average job.

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The main protagonist of the series, a insanely-intelligent corporate spy framed for the both the murder of a US Treasury investigator investigator, and his best friend in the aftermath of a seemingly-average job.
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Raised from a young age by a CIA agent father who killed himself when John was ten, and shipped off to a boarding school by an alcoholic mom who couldn't cope, John adapted himself into a person who ''could,'' learning the art of psychological manipulation and subterfuge with the help of items stolen out of his father's safe alongside his best friend and adoptive brother Miles. Unfortunately, the trauma of his past and the life he's forced himself into have left him with a host of neuroses, including an inability to trust just about anyone, horrific paranoia, and frequent difficulty distinguishing his own delusions and fears from reality.
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* ParentalSubstitute: Despite the reveal at the end of the first season that [[spoiler: Liv isn't his ex-wife and Sammy isn't his kid]], it's clear that John still cares about them both deeply and still takes an active role in [[spoiler: Sammy]]'s life, to the point of attending his talent show when he performs to show his support.

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* DoesntLikeGuns: Seems to have this in common with Miles, likely as a symptom of his distaste for what he considers "unnecessary killing". It's a sign of how bad his mental state's gotten when he steals a revolver out from under Ben's bedframe and proceeds to [[spoiler: nearly wind up killing him with it.]]

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* DoesntLikeGuns: Seems to have this in common with Miles, likely as a symptom of his distaste for what he considers "unnecessary killing". It's a sign of how bad his mental state's gotten when he steals a revolver out from under Ben's bedframe and proceeds to [[spoiler: have a breakdown before nearly wind winding up killing him with it.]]]]
* TheInsomniac: His flash-forward at the start of the series starts off by mentioning that he hasn't slept in at least a few days, and the times that we do see him sleep later on seem to wind up interrupted by nightmares before he gets anything decent.
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* NaiveNewcomer: Being one of the only members of the team both completely unaware of Crowley's machinations or of how corporation espionage operates prior to her joining John's team, she is the person to whom most things that the audience might be otherwise unaware of are explained to.
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* DeepCoverAgent: Given his AccentRelapse and his monologue during his [[spoiler: murder of his girlfriend Elena]], it can easily be inferred that he's a spy Crowley recruited to his cause while doing work over in Eastern Europe.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Despite his good intentions, Ben's frequent attempts to hide things from John in order to keep him safe or to preserve their decent relationship only ever wind up making things worse once they're found out, especially because John is explicitly prone to intense paranoia and delusions, and Ben hiding things from him only makes that way of thinking feel justified. It nearly ends in tragedy for both of them as the series goes on, [[spoiler: given that Crowley nearly manages to manipulate John into murdering Ben while in the midst of an active breakdown, telling John that after everything his father's continued to hide from him that there's no way he can ever be sure that what Ben's saying can really be trusted.]]
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Despite his best efforts to cope with everything he goes through during the first season, his regular methods of managing his mental illness just cannot measure up to the sheer amount of things stacked against it. After losing Miles (his only real friend for almost his entire life and the only person John felt ever really understood him), [[spoiler: losing his team and being left unable to fully trust his father due to his involvement]], and all of the plans he's been working at for years to go against Crowley completely going to hell, his anxiety and paranoia wind up off the charts, which in tandem with a lack of his regular medication manage to send him spiraling once he hits his breaking point.

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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Despite his best efforts to cope with everything he goes through during the first season, his regular methods of managing his mental illness just cannot measure up to the sheer amount of things stacked against it. After losing Miles (his only real friend for almost his entire life and the only person John felt ever really understood him), [[spoiler: losing his team and being left unable to fully trust his father due to his involvement]], and all of the plans he's been working at for years to go against Crowley completely going to hell, his anxiety and paranoia wind up off the charts, which in tandem with a lack of his regular medication manage to send him spiraling into a legitimate delusional breakdown once he hits his breaking point.
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* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: Despite his best efforts to cope with everything he goes through during the first season, his regular methods of managing his mental illness just cannot measure up to the sheer amount of things stacked against it. After losing Miles (his only real friend for almost his entire life and the only person John felt ever really understood him), [[spoiler: losing his team and being left unable to fully trust his father due to his involvement]], and all of the plans he's been working at for years to go against Crowley completely going to hell, his anxiety and paranoia wind up off the charts, which in tandem with a lack of his regular medication manage to send him spiraling once he hits his breaking point.
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* BunnyEarsLawyer: John is, at the best of times, extremely neurotic in his behavior, willing to execute plans and ideas that no person with even an ounce of dignity or common sense would touch with a ten-foot pole. He's also insanely good at his job, to the point that the FBI agent assigned to watch his every waking moment can't get a thing to stick when it comes to his, ahem, ''less legal'' maneuvers, and is capable of making the switch from corporate espionage to literal, democracy-determining spycraft with very little issue. It's telling that telling his team that they'll need to [[spoiler: fake their deaths and start entire new identities]] is barely even met with any amount of surprise on their parts.
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* DoesntLikeGuns: Seems to have this in common with Miles, likely as a symptom of his distaste for what he considers "unnecessary killing".

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* DoesntLikeGuns: Seems to have this in common with Miles, likely as a symptom of his distaste for what he considers "unnecessary killing". It's a sign of how bad his mental state's gotten when he steals a revolver out from under Ben's bedframe and proceeds to [[spoiler: nearly wind up killing him with it.]]
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* NoMedicationForMe: Is shown to have run out of his psychiatric medication midway through the first episode, and presumably has no way of getting more of it once he's framed for Homm's murder and sent on the run. He isn't going off of them on purpose, however, and given how his mental state declines as the season goes forward, he needs them to achieve at least some kind of regular function while under severe amounts of stress.


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* SanitySlippage: Due to what is almost certainly a combination of being completely off of his psychiatric medication (he's shown to be almost completely out of it in Episode One and would have no real way to acquire more of it while on the run) and the extreme amount of stress he's under after Valence's death while working against Crowley, John's mental state seems to drastically decline over the course of the first season, culminating in him [[spoiler: attempting to kill his father]] while in the midst of an active paranoid delusion.
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* KillTheCutie: The sweetest and most endearing member of John's team, and [[spoiler: her death]] seems to be the only one that actually leaves [[spoiler: the Intern]] shaken in the aftermath.
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* WeHardlyKnewYe: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.

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* WeHardlyKnewYe: [[spoiler: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.]]



* WeHardlyKnewYe: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.

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* WeHardlyKnewYe: [[spoiler: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.]]



* WeHardlyKnewYe: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.

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* WeHardlyKnewYe: [[spoiler: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.]]
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*WeHardlyKnewYe: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.


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*WeHardlyKnewYe: Winds up killed alongside the rest of John's original team when the Intern decides to clean house.
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* AccentRelapse: [[spoiler: Begins speaking in a thick, Eastern-European accent to further taunt his girlfriend Elena [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness as he's killing her after she assassinates Senator Evans under his orders,]] and keeps it up for the rest of the series whenever talking to someone aware of his true nature as an agent for Crowley, with it implied that he's a DeepCoverAgent Crowley brought into his fold while doing his work in Europe.]]

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