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* LoveMartyr: She has this BAD for [[CompleteMonster Bill Sykes]]. She recognises this in "As Long As He Needs Me", but even though he's a murderous thug and robber who beats her and plans to kill Oliver, she still can't bring herself to hand him over to the law.
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* LoveMartyr: She has this BAD for [[CompleteMonster Bill Sykes]].Sykes. She recognises this in "As Long As He Needs Me", but even though he's a murderous thug and robber who beats her and plans to kill Oliver, she still can't bring herself to hand him over to the law.
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* CheerfulChild: He brings out the best in nearly everyone he meets, even Fagin. The exceptions to this [[HumansAreBastards are the completely heartless]].
* PinballProtagonist: He's an orphan, gets passed from orphanage, to a funeral home, then gets kicked out and gets picked up by the thieves guild, then is taken in by a rich old man. It's a musical, and the characters mostly sing around him as well.
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end he and Fagin both get away and renew their partnership]]
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end he and Fagin both get away and renew their partnership]]partnership]].
* LovableRogue: He steals to survive but bears no malice.
* LovableRogue: He steals to survive but bears no malice.
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* BadSamaritan: Downplayed from the book. While still somewhat self-serving, he is portrayed as something of a whimsical LoveableRogue who does to some extent care for his gang ([[EvenEvilHasStandards or at least loathes Sykes' treatment of them]]).
%%* TheFagin: [[TropeNamer Duh...]]
* FingerlessGloves: He wears them.
* FingerlessGloves: He wears them.
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* HeelFaceTurn: Subverted in the movie. He plans to do this, but [[spoiler:instead chooses to leave with Dodger and continue a life of pickpocketing]]. It's rather heartwarming, in a strange way. In the theatre version, however, he plays it straight, deciding that with the breaking up and arrest of his gang, along with the loss of his precious treasures, there has never been a better time to change his ways.
* HeelFaceTurn: Subverted in the movie. He plans to do this, but [[spoiler:instead chooses to leave with Dodger and continue a life of pickpocketing]]. It's rather heartwarming, in a strange way. In the theatre version, however, he plays it straight, deciding that with the breaking up and arrest of his gang, along with the loss of his precious treasures, there has never been a better time to change his ways.
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end, even though he does lose his treasure he and Dodger are still free]]
* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]
* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]
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* IAmWhatIAm: Heseems to always come back to the IAmWhatIAm decision.
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end, even though he does lose his treasure he and Dodger are stillfree]]
* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]free]].
* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end, even though he does lose his treasure he and Dodger are still
* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]
* LovableRogue: De-emphasizing his GreedyJew characterization in the original. Particularly notable is Ron Moody's cheerfully hammy performance in the 1968 film version. (He even stands up for Oliver on two occasions.)
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-->Though I'd be the first one to say that I wasn't a saint, I'm finding it hard to be really as black as they paint. I'm reviewing the situation; can a fellow be a villain all his life?... I'm a bad 'un and a bad 'un I shall stay. You'll be seeing no transformation, but it's wrong to be a rogue in every way. I don't want nobody hurt for me or made to do the dirt for me, this rotten life is not for me, it's getting far too hot for me, there is no in-between for me, but who will change the scene for me? I think I'd better think it out again!
* SparedByTheAdaptation: He avoids capture and execution in the end.
* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]
* DisproportionateRetribution: Speaking his name aloud is, apparently, grounds for being killed, even if it's a whisper. He claims he actually followed through and ''did'' kill someone for boasting that he could his name in vain.
* TheDreaded: The moment he arrives in the tavern after "Oom-Pah-Pah" the whole place goes dead quiet, seguing perfectly into his VillainSong.
-->'''Sykes:''' Strong men tremble when they hear it\\
They've got cause enough to fear it\\
It's much blacker than they smear it\\
Nobody mentions... my name.
-->'''Sykes:''' Strong men tremble when they hear it\\
They've got cause enough to fear it\\
It's much blacker than they smear it\\
Nobody mentions... my name.
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--> " Oom-pah-pah, "Oom-pah-pah, oom-pah-pah, there's a little ditty, they're singing in the city, especially when they've been on the gin or the beer, if you've got the patience, your own imagination, we'll tell just exactly what you to hear..."
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* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: She sings about her love of Bill Sikes, the best thief, who's a cold, bullying monster. [[spoiler: It turns out bad for her in the end - he winds up killing her.]]
* AllGirlsWantBadBoys: She sings about her love of Bill Sikes, the best thief, who's a cold, bullying monster. [[spoiler: It turns out bad for her in the end - he winds up killing her.]]
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* FatalFlaw: Her misplaced UndyingLoyalty to the monstrous Bill Sikes.
* HeelFaceTurn: Sikes forces her to lead Oliver into a trap so he can be brought back to Fagin. Later she risks her own life to save Oliver from Sikes.
* HeelFaceTurn: Sikes forces her to lead Oliver into a trap so he can be brought back to Fagin. Later she risks her own life to save Oliver from Sikes.
* IAmWhatIAm: She's fully aware of the fact that Bill is a [[{{Jerkass}} complete bastard]], but she can't help [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys loving him]], complete with song. [[spoiler:And then, to top off the love fest, he kills her.]]
* LoveMartyr: She has this BAD for [[CompleteMonster Bill Sykes]]. She recognises this in "As Long As He Needs Me", but even though he's a murderous thug and robber who beats her and plans to kill Oliver, she still can't bring herself to hand him over to the law.
-->''As long as life is long\\
I'll love him, right or wrong\\
And somehow I'll be strong\\
As long as he needs me.''
-->''As long as life is long\\
I'll love him, right or wrong\\
And somehow I'll be strong\\
As long as he needs me.''
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* {{Jerkass}}: Generally rude and bullying.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: As seen in EvenEvilHasStandards, he doesn't like the way Bill Sykes killed Nancy, implying that he may have respect towards women.
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* WouldntHitAGirl: As seen in EvenEvilHasStandards, he doesn't like the way Bill Sykes killed treats Nancy, implying that he may have respect towards women.
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* AdaptationalHeroism: While still a pickpocket, he's more of a sympathetic character in the musical compared to his portrayal in the original book.
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* {{Jerkass}}: Calling him this would be putting it kindly.
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* KickTheDog: Insult's Oliver's dead mother at one point which leads to Oliver kicking the crap out of him.
* {{Jerkass}}: Generally rude and bullying.
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* HateSink: While a lot of the antagonists in the musical are either sympathetic or comedic, Bill Sykes lacks in either department. Having no problem with harming [[WouldHitAGirl women]], [[WouldHurtAChild children]] or [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals animals].
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* HateSink: While a lot of the antagonists in the musical are either sympathetic or comedic, Bill Sykes lacks in either department. Having no problem with harming [[WouldHitAGirl women]], [[WouldHurtAChild children]] or [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals animals].animals]].
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* HateSink: While a lot of the antagonists in the musical are either sympathetic or comedic, Bill Sykes lacks in either department. Having no problem with harming [[WouldHitAGirl women]], [[WouldHurtAChild children]] or [[BadPeopleAbuseAnimals animals].
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nancy & bill arent married so her last name isn't sikes
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* FatBastard: Fat, pompous and unkind.
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* IncorruptiblePurePureness: He doesn't undergo a HeelFaceTurn even being surrounded by crooks and thieves.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Twice he gets in big trouble because he just stands there like a deer in headlights - first when Dodger and Charlie pick Mr. Brownlow's pocket, then later when he accidentally knocks something over in a house he's trying to rob and he just stands there until the lights come on upstairs.
* TheArtfulDodger: [[TropeNamer Of course.]]
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* MamaBear: To Oliver - and it gets her killed.
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* MamaBear: To Oliver - and [[spoiler:and it gets her killed.killed]].
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* BadPeopleAbuseAnimals: He treats Bullseye like shit.
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* WhatAnIdiot: Twice he gets in big trouble because he just stands there like a deer in headlights - first when Dodger and Charlie pick Mr. Brownlow's pocket, then later when he accidentally knocks something over in a house he's trying to rob and he just stands there until the lights come on upstairs.
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* GetOut: When Bills shows up with blood on his coat, a horrified Fagin realises what he's done and yells at him to leave.
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: And he does it all in ''onesoing''!song''!
* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: And he does it all in ''one
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* DomesticAbuser: To Nancy
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* DomesticAbuser: To NancyNancy.
* NeverMyFault: In the film, after he murders Nancy, he's heard saying to himself, "Nancy, I loved you, didn't I? Look what you've do to me?!" How do you figure that one, Bill?
* SanitySlippage: After he kills Nancy, he becomes rather unhinged, to the point even his own dog ditches him.
* FamilyUnfriendlyDeath: [[spoiler: ''Beaten to death'' by her boyfriend, in front of a little boy. Poor girl.]]
* IndyPloy: How she manages to get Oliver to the bridge - she starts up a huge song and dance number to cause a distraction, then grabs him and runs out. Too bad Bull's Eye blew her cover...
* MamaBear: To Oliver - and it gets her killed.
* MamaBear: To Oliver - and it gets her killed.
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* RedemptionEqualsDeath: Is killed at the end by Bill
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* NiceGuy: He takes Oliver in after he realises he falsely accused him of pickpocketing him, and later tries to warn Nancy not to go back to Bill. She doesn't listen.
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* IncorruptiblePurePureness: He doesn't undergo a HeelFaceTurn even being surrounded by crooks and thieves.
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* HookerWithAHeartOfGold: Possibly one of the most famous examples in literature.
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--> " Oom-pah-pah, oom-pah-pah, there's a little ditty, their they're singing in the city, especially when they've been on the gin or the beer, if you've got the patience, your own imagination, we'll tell just exactly what you to hear..."
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%%* Henpecked Husband: After he married Widow Corney.
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%%* LargeHam: Particularly in the film.
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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: And he does it all in ''one soing''!
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* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild.]]
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* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end, end of the film, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild.rebuild. In the play, he instead resolves to turn over a new leaf, and limps away.]]
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* TragicVillain: A variation. "Reviewing the Situation" shows Fagin as wanting out of the criminal life, but feels trapped by it. [[spoiler: By the end, he more or less accepts his lot in life and seeks to rebuild.]]
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* UngratefulBastard: Nancy loved him enough to keep him out of Jail and he still goes and [[spoiler: kills her.]]
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!! Mr. Bumble
!! Mr. and Mrs. Sowerberry
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* RedemptionMeansDeath: RedemptionEqualsDeath: Is killed at the end by Bill
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Is implied to be this with Fagin. The ending pretty much cements it.
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Is implied to be this with Dodger. Confirmed at the end.
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end he and Fagin both get away and renew their partnership]]
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* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler: At the end, even though he does lose his treasure he and Dodger are still free]]
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* KnightOfCerebus: Things take a decidely darker turn whenever he appears.
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* AdorablyPrecociousChild
* BerserkButton: Don't talk crap about his mother.
* BewareTheNiceOnes
* HeartwarmingOrphan
* IJustWantToBeLoved
* NiceGuy
* WideEyedIdealist
* AdorablyPrecociousChild
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** EvenEvilHasStandards: He's extremely prejudiced against the way Sykes treats Nancy, and the way Sykes uses violence to solve every situation.
* CoolOldGuy
* EvilIsHammy[=/=]LargeHam
* EvilMentor
* LaughablyEvil
* NiceHat
* GreedyJew
* TheFagin: [[TropeNamer Duh...]]
* AntiVillain
** NobleDemon
** EvenEvilHasStandards: He's extremely prejudiced against the way Sykes treats Nancy, and the way Sykes uses violence to solve every situation.
* CoolOldGuy
* EvilIsHammy[=/=]LargeHam
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* TheBrute
* '''WouldHitAGirl[=/=]WouldHurtAChild'''
* BeardOfEvil
* DomesticAbuser: To Nancy
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* LaughablyEvil
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--> " Oom-pah-pah, oom-pah-pah, there's a little ditty, their singing in the city, especially when they've been on the gin or the beer, if you've got the patience, your own imagination, we'll tell just exactly what you to hear..."
* BewareTheNiceOnes
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* LoveRedeems
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--> "Where is love? does it fall from skies above?"
* AdorablyPrecociousChild
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* NiceGuy
* WideEyedIdealist
!! Artful Dodger
--> "Consider yourself at home, consider yourself one of the family."
* AffablyEvil
* AntiVillain
* NiceHat
* TheArtfulDodger: [[TropeNamer Of course.]]
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--> "In this life, one thing counts, in the bank, large amounts,"
* AffablyEvil
* AntiVillain
** NobleDemon
** EvenEvilHasStandards: He's extremely prejudiced against the way Sykes treats Nancy, and the way Sykes uses violence to solve every situation.
* CoolOldGuy
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* EvilMentor
* GreedyJew
* TheFagin: [[TropeNamer Duh...]]
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* AxCrazy
* BeardOfEvil
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