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Anything official i have seen has his name as Bedevere
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!!Sir Bedivere the Wise
!!Sir Bedivere the Wise
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!!Sir
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappears after the encounter with Tim.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappears after the encounter with Tim.
Tim. [[note]]There is a bit of dialogue that they would dismount and carry on, on foot. And since he had the coconuts for Arthur… [[/note]]
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[[caption-width-right:276:"You're using coconuts!"]]
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[[caption-width-right:275:"I'd rather...just...''sing''..."]]
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[[caption-width-right:269:"Look at the bones!"]]
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* YourMom: One of the taunts landed to the English 'k-nnniggits' (and has a 'Your Dad' joke too):
-->''Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!''
-->''Your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries!''
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* MotorMouth: Delivers his introduction speech to the damsel in distress in the fastest way possible, only stopping to realize that it's not a damsel, but a prince.
-->''O fair one! [=BeholdIamyourhumbleSirLancelotofCamelotIhavecometotake=]--Oh, I'm terribly sorry!''
-->''O fair one! [=BeholdIamyourhumbleSirLancelotofCamelotIhavecometotake=]--Oh, I'm terribly sorry!''
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: In his appearance (brown suit, bow tie, glasses), earnest manner and high voice, he's strongly reminiscent of the distinguished English historian of 19th and 20th century diplomacy [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqT2kmKPqeM A.J.P. Taylor]], who made a lot of TV documentaries consisting of himself explaining things to the camera. This is lampshaded in the published screenplay, where he is sometimes referred to as "Not A.J.P. Taylor".
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: In his appearance (brown suit, bow tie, glasses), earnest manner and high voice, he's strongly reminiscent of the distinguished English historian of 19th and 20th century 20th-century diplomacy [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqT2kmKPqeM A.J.P. Taylor]], who made a lot of TV documentaries consisting of himself explaining things to the camera. This is lampshaded in the published screenplay, where he is sometimes referred to as "Not A.J.P. Taylor".
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* TheNarrator: Doubles as one for the openings of both acts.
* SparedByTheAdaptation: He was slashed down by a rogue knight on a real horse in the movie but none of that sort happens in the musical.
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* TheSmartGuy: Explicitly stated to be the wisest of the bunch.
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* DetrimentalDetermination: Might be the most well-known example of what happens when you don't KnowWhenToFoldEm.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: He's combined with the peasant who kills the old man, giving him an act of premeditated malace in addition to his usual BerserkerRage. [[WhatTheHellHero The chorus even calls him out on it.]]
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* AdaptationalVillainy: He's combined with the peasant who kills the old man, giving him an act of premeditated malace malice in addition to his usual BerserkerRage. [[WhatTheHellHero The chorus even calls him out on it.]]
-->'''King Arthur:''' I thought you were a fairy?
-->'''Lady of the Lake:''' Oh no, that's Lancelot.
-->'''Lady of the Lake:''' Oh no, that's Lancelot.
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: He makes it to the end of the play instead of being thrown to the pit.
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* SparedByTheAdaptation: He makes it to the end of the play instead of being thrown to into the pit.
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* AdaptationalBadass: A mild example; he's still cowardly, but in this version he actually slew the "vicious Chicken of Bristol", rather than almost standing up to it.
* AdaptationalIntelligence: He has encyclopedic knowledge about Broadway and in general a more intellectual air about him than in the movie; courtesy of the roll being originated by ''Creator/DavidHydePierce''.
* BringMyBrownPants: Mentions one of the drawbacks of being a night is soiling his pants out of fear.
* AdaptationalIntelligence: He has encyclopedic knowledge about Broadway and in general a more intellectual air about him than in the movie; courtesy of the roll being originated by ''Creator/DavidHydePierce''.
* BringMyBrownPants: Mentions one of the drawbacks of being a night is soiling his pants out of fear.
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* AdaptationalBadass: A mild example; example as he's still cowardly, cowardly but in this version version, he actually slew the "vicious Chicken of Bristol", rather than almost standing up to it.
* AdaptationalIntelligence: He has encyclopedic knowledge about Broadway and in general a more intellectual air about him than in the movie; courtesy of theroll role being originated by ''Creator/DavidHydePierce''.
* BringMyBrownPants: Mentions one of the drawbacks of being anight knight is soiling his pants out of fear.
* AdaptationalIntelligence: He has encyclopedic knowledge about Broadway and in general a more intellectual air about him than in the movie; courtesy of the
* BringMyBrownPants: Mentions one of the drawbacks of being a
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Him and Lance promise to "remain good chums" and look out for one another. Lancelot is gay, but appears to have no nonplatonic feelings for Robin specifically.
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* HeterosexualLifePartners: Him He and Lance promise to "remain good chums" and look out for one another. Lancelot is gay, gay but appears to have no nonplatonic non-platonic feelings for Robin specifically.
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A monk and scholar. He gives the Holy Hand Grenade to the Knights when they need a way to defeat the Killer Rabbit. He also translates the runes inside the Cave of Caerbannog, but is eaten by the Black Beast of Aaarrrrggghhh.
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A monk and scholar. He gives the Holy Hand Grenade to the Knights when they need a way to defeat the Killer Rabbit. He also translates the runes inside the Cave of Caerbannog, Caerbannog but is eaten by the Black Beast of Aaarrrrggghhh.
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* TheChooserOfTheOne: She, the Lady of the Lake, lifted Exalibur from the water of her lake and bestowed it upon him, as divine providence that he was to rule. '''''That''''' is why he's king!
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* TheChooserOfTheOne: She, the Lady of the Lake, lifted Exalibur Excalibur from the water of her lake and bestowed it upon him, as divine providence that he was to rule. '''''That''''' is why he's king!
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-->''I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.''
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-->''I don't want to talk to you no more, you empty headed empty-headed animal food trough wiper. I fart in your general direction. Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.''
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They live in a spooky forest and coerce travellers into buying shrubberies for them. [[invoked]]{{Trope Namer|s}}: for TheKnightsWhoSaySquee and WithThisHerring
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They live in a spooky forest and coerce travellers into buying shrubberies shrubbery for them. [[invoked]]{{Trope Namer|s}}: for TheKnightsWhoSaySquee and WithThisHerring
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* TheDreaded: The Knights who say Ni! appear to have a terrifying reputation, considering the fact they inspire fear within nearby villages, maybe even the whole country, cause the shrubbery-economy to collapse and make a fearful king Arthur do their bidding. Anyone who terrifies King Arthur like that is worthy of being called 'the Dreaded'.
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* TheDreaded: The Knights who say Ni! appear to have a terrifying reputation, considering the fact they inspire fear within nearby villages, maybe even the whole country, cause causing the shrubbery-economy shrubbery economy to collapse and make a fearful king Arthur do their bidding. Anyone who terrifies King Arthur like that is worthy of being called 'the Dreaded'.
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* EvilSoundsDeep: Inverted, as they all speak in high pitched voices.
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* LargeHam: Especially their leader, who tries to sound impressive and authoritative with a high pitched voice.
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* LargeHam: Especially their leader, who tries to sound impressive and authoritative with a high pitched high-pitched voice.
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A man who collects corpses at a village ravaged by the plague. He gets into an argument with a villager who wants to hand him over a still living man. The collector then solves the situation by killing the 'living corpse'.
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A man who collects corpses at a village ravaged by the plague. He gets into an argument with a villager who wants to hand him over a still living still-living man. The collector then solves the situation by killing the 'living corpse'.
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* GratuitousDiscoSequence: The entirety of his big uninterrupted, musical number, "His Name Is Lancelot", complete with spontaneous, all-male backup flamenco dancers on maracas. The song stands out as the only disco-styled show tune among the rest of the traditional Broadway ones.
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* MasculineFeminineGayCouple: The effeminate and campy Prince Herbert who loves to sing his feelings hooks up with and eventually marries boisterous, bloodthirsty macho knight Lancelot.
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* FakeShemp: Lancelot wears a black and white Great Helm in the scenes with Tim the Enchanter, and only takes it off after Tim leaves. Since Tim the Enchanter was ''also'' played by John Cleese, a body double had to be used.
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* FakeShemp: Since Brother Maynard is also played by Eric Idle, in the scene in the cave when the two are in the same frame, Robin is played by a body double who is either hiding behind another knight or facing away from the camera, freeing up Eric Idle to play Brother Maynard.
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* TheSkeptic: Has to see the Lady of the Lake to believe.
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* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: To go with his royal title, his fight with the Black Knight shows that he's no slouch in a swordfight. What's even more impressive is that Arthur was able to go blow-to-blow with the knight (and gain the upper hand) while holding his sword one-handed.
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* AmbiguouslyGay: He's either this, or CampStraight. The movie zig-zags a little on it -- though in ''Theatre/{{Spamalot}}'' he is confirmed to be gay.
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* AmbiguouslyGay: He's either this, this or CampStraight. The CampStraight as the movie zig-zags a little on it both -- though in ''Theatre/{{Spamalot}}'' he is outright confirmed to be gay.
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* MarryForLove: Perhaps. He starts to explain what sorts of qualities he'd like in the girl he marries, but as he chooses to do so in ''song,'' his father is quick to put an end to it.
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* MarryForLove: Perhaps. He starts to explain what sorts of qualities he'd like in the girl he marries, marries but as he chooses to do so in ''song,'' his father is quick to put an end to it.
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* AdaptationalSexuality: He was AmbiguouslyGay in the original but easily could have just been CampStraight and against an arranged marriage. Here, the "certain something" he wants in his dream spouse is clearly a penis.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: In the WeddingFinale, Herbert is freed from his [[AbusiveParents horrid]] [[FantasyForbiddingFather father]]'s clutches and ArrangedMarriage, gets HappilyMarried to Lancelot and can finally sing without said father interrupting him.
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* TuttiFruttiHat: Wears one midway during his musical number complete with [[VisualInnuendo a banana and two oranges]] as the centerpiece.
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* TheComicallySerious: His main contribution to the film's humour is remaining completely straight-laced through all the absurd situations throw at him and even occasionally attempting to get things back on a serious track (mostly to no avail).
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* TheComicallySerious: His main contribution to the film's humour is remaining completely straight-laced through it all.
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* TheComicallySerious: His main contribution to the film's humour is remaining completely straight-laced through it all.all the absurd situations throw at him and even occasionally attempting to get things back on a serious track (mostly to no avail).
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* RageBreakingPoint: He tries being polite towards Dennis. It's only after Dennis refuses to just ''shut up'' that he finally snaps and starts subjecting him to the violence inherent in the system.
* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Hinted to have some anti-Semitic tendencies, as Patsy declined to mention he was Jewish on the grounds "it's not kind of thing you tell a heavily armed Christian."
* GoYeHeroesGoAndDie: Their first song is about all the increasingly horrific forms of death Sir Robin faces on his quest, until he firmly asks them to stop.
* TheChooserOfTheOne: She, the Lady of the Lake, lifted Exalibur from the water of her lake and bestowed it upon him, as divine providence that he was to rule. '''''That''''' is why he's king!
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-->'''Arthur:''' "Those Those who hear them seldom live to tell the tale."
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* AgonyBeam: Apparently the word "Ni!" is one of these, causing genuine pain and possibly even death if shouted enough times.
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* BewareTheSillyOnes: They're utterly ridiculous, but it [[note]]Argh![[/note]]'s implied that their dreaded Ni! causes genuine pain and may even kill people who hear it [[note]]Argh![[/note]] long enough.
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* UnrelatedInTheAdaptation: Most Arthurian stories depicted Galahad as Lancelot's son, one way or another. In this film, they're not blood-related. Galahad is even in the same generation as Lancelot.
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The other knights do speak, you hear them, but it is limited to Ni! and repetition
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* AmbiguouslyHuman: Their leader is abnormally tall and is the only one of them seen talking. It's not clear if the other knights can talk or not. They also have [[spoiler: a ridiculous weakness in the form of the word "it" [[note]]Argh![[/note]]]].
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* AmbiguouslyHuman: Their leader is abnormally tall and is the only one of them seen talking. It's not clear if actively engaging in conversation. As noted in the other description the rest of the knights can talk or not.mostly limit themselves to saying 'NI!' and they sometimes repeat the last words the head knight is saying. They also have [[spoiler: a ridiculous weakness in the form of the word "it" [[note]]Argh![[/note]]]].
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* AdaptationalKarma: Not only is he on the receiving end of an epic TheReasonYouSuckSpeech, but at the very end of the show, when he tries to stop the final song, Lancelot lays him out flat with one whack. Usually to tremendous applause from the aundience.
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* AmbiguouslyHuman: Their leader is abnormally tall and is the only one of them seen talking. It's not clear if the other knights can talk or not. They also have [[spoiler: a ridiculous weakness in the form of the word "it" [[note]]Argh![[/note]]]].
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* DarkIsEvil: They are dressed in black/dark brown, they are bullies who terrorize people while making them do [[WithThisHerring impossible tasks]] and their leader looks like a typical EvilOverlord.
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* BloodlessCarnage: A man having all his limbs severed like that would bleed out a *lot* more.
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* MadeOfPlasticine: Real human limbs don't get chopped off as easily, even with a very sharp sword. [[TropesAreTools However]], the scene wouldn't be as [[RuleOfFunny funny]] otherwise.
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* UncertainDoom: He's still alive when he's last seen, but considering he has literally no limbs and is in the forest, he'll likely get EatenAlive by wild animals or die of thirst or bone infection, since he's apparently immune to bleeding out.
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Up until paper became cheap and widespread around 1300 literacy was extremely rare due to the lack of writing medium and it's actually the clergy who tended to know how to read.
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* SmarterThanYouLook: Despite being a literal mud farmer in an era where literacy outside of nobility and any political system outside of Feudalism are next to nonexistent, he possesses a very deep comprehension of Marxist theory and politics centuries ahead of his time. Considering his entire community is an anarcho-syndicalist commune, its possible that he isn't the only one.
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* SmarterThanYouLook: Despite being a literal mud farmer in an era where literacy outside of nobility the clergy and any political system outside of Feudalism are next to nonexistent, he possesses a very deep comprehension of Marxist theory and politics centuries ahead of his time. Considering his entire community is an anarcho-syndicalist commune, its possible that he isn't the only one.
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* AdaptationalVillainy: He's combined with the peasant who kills the old man, giving him an act of premeditated malace in addition to his usual BezerkerRage. [[WhatTheHellHero The chorus even calls him out on it.]]
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* AdaptationalVillainy: He's combined with the peasant who kills the old man, giving him an act of premeditated malace in addition to his usual BezerkerRage.BerserkerRage. [[WhatTheHellHero The chorus even calls him out on it.]]
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: The one time he comes up with a plan (the [[TrojanHorse Trojan Rabbit]]), it's actually somewhat decent...but not only did he not consider the French would catapult it out of the castle before the intended nighttime attack to take them by surprise and unharmed, he forgot that Lancelot, Galahad, and ''himself'' were supposed to be inside the thing for the plan to work at all. (Good thing they weren't.)
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: The one time he comes up with a plan (the [[TrojanHorse Trojan Rabbit]]), it's actually somewhat decent...but not only did he not consider the French would catapult it out of the castle before the intended nighttime attack to take them by surprise and unharmed, unarmed, he forgot that Lancelot, Galahad, and ''himself'' were supposed to be inside the thing for the plan to work at all. (Good thing they weren't.)
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: Rushes off to rescue someone once he receives a call for help. Once he finds the person in distress is a man and not a woman as he expected, he's flabbergasted. Not angry or ready to raise hell about it, just flabbergasted.
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* AlwaysSaveTheGirl: Rushes off to rescue someone once he receives a call for help. Once he finds the person in distress is a man and not a woman as he expected, he's flabbergasted. Not angry or ready to raise hell about it, just flabbergasted.utterly stumped and unsure what to do next.
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* TheChooserOfTheOne: He chooses Arthur and his knights to seek the Holy Grail.
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* GodIsGood: He might be a bit of a grump, yes, but God nevertheless just wants to instil hope in the Britons during these trying times.
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* GodIsGood: He might be a bit of a grump, yes, but God nevertheless just wants to instil instill hope in the Britons during these trying times.