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* LightningBruiser: Starts as a FragileSpeedster like most first pegasus knights, but can grow out of it much quicker thanks to several factors that benefit her in the earlygame: an enemy lineup with less emphasis on [[TacticalRockPaperScissors axes]] than in other games, an entire chapter full of [[CannonFodder weak monsters]] that she can practically solo, and several statboosters that perfectly compliment her statline. While the other pegasus knights have better growths, Vanessa has raw EXP on her side and can easily snowball to the point where she might even end up stronger than ''[[DiscOneNuke Seth]]''.

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* LightningBruiser: Starts as a FragileSpeedster like most first pegasus knights, but can grow out of it much quicker thanks to several factors that benefit her in the earlygame: an enemy lineup with less emphasis on [[TacticalRockPaperScissors axes]] than in other games, an entire chapter full of [[CannonFodder weak monsters]] that she can practically solo, and several statboosters that perfectly compliment her statline. While the other pegasus knights have better growths, Vanessa has raw EXP on her side and can easily snowball to the point where she might into a [[DiscOneNuke Seth]] on wings before Tana even end up stronger than ''[[DiscOneNuke Seth]]''.shows up.



* FragileSpeedster: So fast that she can feasibly double with Steel Lances even with her low Constitution, but a bit on the frail side. Accentuated in the international version, which lowered her Strength and Defense in exchange for more Skill and Speed. In any case, she turns into more of a LightningBruiser after promotion.

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* FragileSpeedster: So fast that she can feasibly double with Steel Lances even with her low Constitution, but a bit on the frail side. Accentuated in the international version, which lowered lowers her Strength and Defense in exchange for more Skill and Speed. In any case, she turns into more of a LightningBruiser after promotion.



* BoringButPractical: His stat growth is mediocre and Sniper is arguably the worst class in ''Sacred Stones'', but he has high enough bases to one-round most basic enemies and comes ready to use every bow in the game save [[InfinityPlusOneSword Nidhogg]]: Neimi and Gerik can become the much more versatile [[BowAndSwordInAccord Rangers]], but Neimi's path to promotion is is [[MagikarpPower long and arduous]], while Gerik does so at the cost of an equally viable promotion into Hero.



* LateCharacterSyndrome: A serviceable unit in her own right, but is greatly overshadowed by the other pegasus knights, and really most other units in the army. There's not much reason to use her unless you feel like doing a [[CombinationAttack Triangle Attack]] or are ''really'' strapped for able bodies.

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* LateCharacterSyndrome: A serviceable unit in her own right, but is greatly overshadowed by the other pegasus knights, and really most other units in the army. There's not much reason to use her unless you feel like doing a want to do the [[CombinationAttack Triangle Attack]] or are ''really'' strapped for able warm bodies.



* LightningBruiser: His defenses are subpar, as is the case with all Myrmidons, but his HP is surprisingly high to compensate and thus partly negates the typical Myrmidon's issue of being a {{glass cannon}}.

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* LightningBruiser: His defenses are subpar, as is the case with all Myrmidons, but his HP is surprisingly high to compensate and thus partly negates the typical Myrmidon's issue of being a {{glass cannon}}.GlassCannon.



* BlackMage: If he takes the "Super Pupil" promotion path (only possible on NewGamePlus), he gains access to all three types of offensive magic at the cost of staves.



* OvershadowedByAwesome: Is statistically inferior to Moulder (who joins earlier and at a higher level) in many ways and also competes with Artur ''and'' Lute for promotion: she can be perfectly useful healing alongside Moulder in the early game, but is unlikely to last beyond that.

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* OvershadowedByAwesome: Is statistically inferior to Moulder (who joins earlier and at a higher level) in many ways and also competes with Artur him, Artur, ''and'' Lute for promotion: she can be perfectly useful healing as a secondary healer alongside Moulder in the early game, but is unlikely to last beyond that.



* FragileSpeedster: Her usual growth tendency, though she can become a speed leaning JackOfAllStats. Ironically, she was going to be a pegasus knight in early development, which would have fit her much better than the classes she did get: [[JackOfAllStats Paladin]], [[MightyGlacier Great Knight, and General]].

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* FragileSpeedster: Her usual growth tendency, though she can become a speed leaning JackOfAllStats. Ironically, Incidentally, she was going to be a pegasus knight in early development, which would have fit her much better than the classes she did get: [[JackOfAllStats Paladin]], [[MightyGlacier Great Knight, and General]].



* LightningBruiser: Has tremendous Strength and good enough Speed after a single Speedwing to kill most things he comes across, with high HP and [[DownplayedTrope acceptable]] Defense... [[WeakToMagic his Resistance is another story]].

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* LightningBruiser: Has tremendous Strength and good enough Speed after a single Speedwing to kill most things he comes across, with high HP and [[DownplayedTrope acceptable]] acceptable Defense... [[WeakToMagic his Resistance is another story]].



* AIBreaker: One of his best traits when promoted to Summoner: enemies ''strongly'' prefer attacking phantoms over doing anything else, since phantoms always die in one hit, which means he can bait their attacks and manipulate their moves very easily.

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* AIBreaker: One of his best traits when promoted to Summoner: enemies ''strongly'' prefer ''love'' attacking phantoms over doing anything else, since [[OneHitPointWonder phantoms always die in one hit, hit]] and [[SpitefulAI they consider that a kill against your army]], which means he can bait their attacks and manipulate their moves very easily.



* DifficultButAwesome: Whether he's promoted into Druid or Summoner, Knoll's staff level will always start at E, aka the lowest. If the player trains him up to level B at least, however, thanks to Knoll's high Magic growths, s/he will have an extremely powerful healer able to use the Physic Staff to heal injured units ''even at literally the other side of the screen'', and capable of healing near lethal wounds with just a basic Heal.

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* DifficultButAwesome: Whether he's promoted into Druid or Summoner, Knoll's staff level will always start at E, aka the lowest. If the player trains him up But when trained to level B at least, however, thanks to Knoll's high Magic growths, s/he will have he can become an extremely powerful healer able to use the Physic Staff to heal injured units ''even at literally the other side of the screen'', and capable of healing near lethal wounds with just a basic Heal.



* HealingHands: When promoted to either Druid or Summoner, he gains the ability to use Staves. Due to his very high Magic, training him up in staff use is a ''very'' good idea.

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* HealingHands: When promoted to either Druid or Summoner, he gains the ability to use Staves. Due to While he starts at the lowest possible rank of E, his very Magic is high Magic, training him up in staff use is enough that even a ''very'' good idea.basic Heal will probably top off your injured units.



* LethalJokeCharacter: His rather awful stats and worse growths tend to result in players deriding him as worthless--however, he happens to be ''the'' fastest and easiest way to access Summoner, which makes him one of the game's best utility characters due to his ability to bait enemy attacks.

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* LethalJokeCharacter: His rather awful stats and worse growths tend outside of Magic range from unimpressive to result in players deriding him as worthless--however, flatout terrible - but he happens to be ''the'' fastest and easiest way to access Summoner, which makes him one of the game's best utility characters due to his ability to bait enemy attacks.



* GlassCannon: Minor case. Saleh's HP is only average and his Defense is quite lackluster, but he has such high Skill that he'll be able to whip out ''many'' critical attacks. Even if he doesn't, he has plenty of Magic and can damage the enemy nicely.

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* GlassCannon: Minor case. Downplayed. Saleh's HP is only average offensive parameters are fantastic against regular enemies and even decent against most bosses, and while his HP and Defense is quite lackluster, but he has such high Skill that he'll be able to whip out ''many'' critical attacks. Even if he doesn't, he has plenty of Magic are a bit below-average, he's by no means a SquishyWizard and can damage the enemy nicely.expose himself to quite a bit of action per turn.



* HolyHandGrenade: He starts with a pretty high Light rank of B, letting him use Purge the moment he joins and [[InfinityPlusOneSword Ivaldi]] with a bit of work.



** As Myrrh is a flying manakete, she is weak to bows like all fliers. Her Defense quickly snowballs to the point where basic bows will do practically nothing to her even ''without'' the Fili Shield, but higher-end bows can still pose a massive threat. She also would do well to steer clear of Druids carrying Luna.

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** As Myrrh is a flying manakete, she is weak to bows like all fliers. Her Defense quickly snowballs to the point where basic bows will do practically nothing to her even ''without'' the Fili Shield, but higher-end bows can still pose a massive threat. She also would do well to steer clear of Druids carrying Luna.[[ArmorPiercingAttack Luna]].



* DemonSlaying: In ''TSS'' her Dragonstone turns her into a ''very'' effective monster killer; give her a few levels and only the toughest enemies in Darkling Woods will give her trouble. (Unless they have [[AchillesHeel bows]].)

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* DemonSlaying: In ''TSS'' her Her Dragonstone turns her into a ''very'' effective monster killer; give her a few levels and only the toughest enemies in Darkling Woods will give her trouble. (Unless they have [[AchillesHeel bows]].)trouble.



** Outside of her (admittedly hefty) Dragonstone passive stats, her initial statline is ''crap'' (her highest non-HP stat is a whopping 7 RES, and most everything else is below 5); however, she possesses some of the most absurd growths in the entire franchise (including an absolutely absurd '''150%''' growth rate on DEF, meaning she has a coinflip chance of gaining 2 defense per level!) and unlike [[Characters/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade a certain Swordmaster]], she has actual levels in which to use them. You still need to be careful training her with her limited-use stone, but odds are she'll be able to dunk on fools in the endgame come level 10 or so.

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** Outside of Even with her (admittedly hefty) hefty Dragonstone passive stats, her [[ArmoredButFrail initial statline is ''crap'' (her highest non-HP stat is statline]] leaves a whopping 7 RES, and most everything else is below 5); lot to be desired; however, she possesses some of the most absurd growths in the entire franchise (including an absolutely absurd '''150%''' growth rate on DEF, meaning she has a coinflip chance of gaining 2 defense per level!) and unlike [[Characters/FireEmblemTheBindingBlade a certain Swordmaster]], she has actual levels in which to use them. You still need to be careful training her with her limited-use stone, but odds are she'll be able to dunk on fools in the endgame come level 10 or so.



** What she eventually turns into, given her growths. Once she gets some real levels on her, the only things that can really ''threaten'' her are [[AntiAir Silver Bows]] and [[ArmorPiercingAttack Luna tomes]]. Monsters and dudes with melee weapons don't have much of a chance.

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** What she eventually turns into, given her growths. Once she gets some real levels on her, the only things that can really ''threaten'' threaten her at all are [[AntiAir Silver Bows]] and [[ArmorPiercingAttack Luna tomes]]. Monsters Melee attackers and dudes with melee weapons especially monsters don't have much of a chance.



* TooAwesomeToUse: She is an extremely powerful character, but she requires her dragonstone to attack. It has fifty uses and counterattacks against enemies also count. There is no way to repair it (outside of a [[GoodBadBugs Good Bad Bug]]) and there is only one of them, so once it's used fifty times, she becomes completely useless. Thankfully, ''Heroes'' averts this.

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* TooAwesomeToUse: She is an extremely powerful character, but she requires her dragonstone to attack. It has fifty uses and counterattacks against enemies also count. There is no way to repair it (outside of a [[GoodBadBugs Good Bad Bug]]) and there is only one of them, so once it's used fifty times, she becomes completely useless. This isn't too big of a deal during the main game, but her long term prospects in the Creature Campaign are completely gutted because of this. Thankfully, ''Heroes'' averts this.



* OptionalBoss: In ''both'' of his appearance as a boss, no less. ''All'' bosses in a HoldTheLine mission are optional, but since the computer is pouring in ''swarms'' of promoted units from where Riev is standing, he's particularly hard to reach. Defeating him in this mission rewards you with his spellbook, the very powerful Aura, before you normally get it. In Chapter 20, he is standing a few spaces away from the gate, meaning that you are never forced to fight him ''at all'' if you so choose.

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* OptionalBoss: In ''both'' of his appearance as a boss, boss appearances, no less. ''All'' bosses in a HoldTheLine mission are optional, but since the computer is pouring in ''swarms'' of promoted units from where Riev is standing, he's particularly hard to reach. Defeating him in this mission rewards you with his spellbook, the very powerful Aura, before you normally get it. In Chapter 20, he is standing a few spaces away from the gate, meaning that you are never forced to fight him ''at all'' if you so choose.



* YouCantThwartStageOne: When he is killed, he tells the heroes that ther are too late to stop the Demon King from returning.

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* YouCantThwartStageOne: When he is killed, he tells the heroes that ther they are too late to stop the Demon King from returning.



* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: [[spoiler:He was a mere {{Jerkass}} in the beginning, but once he got his hands on [[EvilWeapon Duessel's cursed lance]] to defend himself in battle after his weapon was broken, he became ten thousand times worse.]]

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* WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity: [[spoiler:He was always a mere {{Jerkass}} in from the beginning, but once he got his hands on [[EvilWeapon Duessel's cursed lance]] to defend himself in battle after his weapon was broken, he became ten thousand times worse.]]



* {{Irony}}: Out of the Creature Campaign's unlockable characters... he's the ''only'' one who didn't die in the game.


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* SoleSurvivor: Out of all the Creature Campaign's unlockable characters, he's the only one who didn't die in the main story.
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* MsFanservice: A very good-looking ActionGirl with dark and mysterious features, [[SugarAndIcePersonality a hidden soft side]], and [[ShesGotLeg quite the leg]], to boot.

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* MsFanservice: A very good-looking ActionGirl with dark and mysterious features, [[SugarAndIcePersonality a hidden soft side]], and [[ShesGotLeg [[LegFocus quite the leg]], leg]] to boot.

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* {{Nerf}}: A minor one: the Siegmund is slightly weaker in the international version (not that it should stop it from annihilating monsters anyway).



* BalanceBuff: A ''very'' minor one, gaining 5% to his HP growth in the international version. The jury's out on which is more confusing: the fact that [[GameBreaker he was buffed at all]] or that they chose such an inconsequential way to buff him.



* {{Nerf}}: Loses 1 point of HP, Strength, and Speed each in the international version, making it slightly harder to get him off the ground.



* BalanceBuff: Gains 5% to his Speed growth in the international version, a welcome change considering his pathetically low base Speed of 3.



* {{Nerf}}: Inexplicably loses 1 HP in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: Loses 2 Speed in the international version, which hurts his ability to double earlygame enemies and steal from opposing thieves.



* {{Nerf}}: His Magic, Speed, and Resistance are all slightly worse in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: Her Magic and Resistance are slightly reduced in the international version.



* BalanceBuff: Gains 5% to his HP growth in the international version.



* BalanceBuff: Gains 5% to his HP growth in the international version.



* BalanceBuff: Gains 5% to his Strength and Skill growths in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: His HP and Speed growths are lower in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: Loses 1 Speed in the international version, making her early combat shakier.



* FragileSpeedster: So fast that she can feasibly double with Steel Lances even with her low Constitution, but a bit on the frail side. She turns into more of a LightningBruiser after promotion.

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* FragileSpeedster: So fast that she can feasibly double with Steel Lances even with her low Constitution, but a bit on the frail side. She Accentuated in the international version, which lowered her Strength and Defense in exchange for more Skill and Speed. In any case, she turns into more of a LightningBruiser after promotion.



* BalanceBuff: Gains 15% to his HP growth in the international version.



* BalanceBuff: Gains noticeably more strength and bulk in the international version, making her marginally more useful.



* WouldntHitAGirl: In the localized version, he won't hit Natasha, so she can walk up to him without fear of him retaliating.

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* WouldntHitAGirl: In the localized international version, he won't hit attack Natasha, so she can walk up to him without fear of him retaliating.



* BalanceBuff: Gains +2 Constitution in the international version, giving him more freedom with heavier weapons ([[BlessedWithSuck but also making him very difficult to rescue]]).



* BalanceBuff: Has slightly higher growths overall in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: Loses 10% to his Magic growth in the international version, which is unfortunate given his low base Magic of 3.



* {{Nerf}}: Has worse Magic and Speed growths in the international version.



* {{Nerf}}: Has worse HP and Strength growths in the international version.



* BalanceBuff: Has slightly higher bases across the board in the international version (though at the cost of fixing a GoodBadBug that gave him massively inflated stats on Eirika's route).



* BalanceBuff: His sword rank went from B to A in the international version, giving him triple A's across the board.



* BalanceBuff: Has massively improved stats in the international version, comparable to a unit's stat gains upon ''promoting''.



* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: Played for laughs, in that his complaints within L'arachel's group are always ignored.

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* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: Played for laughs, in that his complaints within L'arachel's L'Arachel's group are always ignored.



* {{Nerf}}: Loses 1 Defense in the international version.



** In ''TSS'', as Myrrh is a ''flying'' manakete, she is weak to bows just like most other fliers. Avoid them like the black death, as the effective bonus (2x damage) and Myrrh's low speed is enough for her to be doubled and killed by most enemy archers. She also would do well to steer clear of Druids carrying Luna.

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** In ''TSS'', as As Myrrh is a ''flying'' flying manakete, she is weak to bows just like most other all fliers. Avoid them like Her Defense quickly snowballs to the black death, as point where basic bows will do practically nothing to her even ''without'' the effective bonus (2x damage) and Myrrh's low speed is enough for her to be doubled and killed by most enemy archers.Fili Shield, but higher-end bows can still pose a massive threat. She also would do well to steer clear of Druids carrying Luna.



* ArmoredButFrail: Starts off with very low HP to offset her massive Defense and Resistance, but her incredible HP growth will quickly turn her into a bonafide MightyGlacier.



** What she can eventually turn into, given her growths. Once she gets some real levels on her, the only thing that can really ''threaten'' her are bows. Monsters and dudes with melee weapons don't have much of a chance.

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** What she can eventually turn turns into, given her growths. Once she gets some real levels on her, the only thing things that can really ''threaten'' her are bows.[[AntiAir Silver Bows]] and [[ArmorPiercingAttack Luna tomes]]. Monsters and dudes with melee weapons don't have much of a chance.



* TooAwesomeToUse: She is an extremely powerful character, but she requires her dragonstone to attack. It has fifty uses and counterattacks against enemies also count. There is no way to repair it (outside of a [[GoodBadBugs Good Bad Bug]]) and there is only one of them, so once it's used fifty times, she becomes completely useless. Happily, as so often happens, ''Heroes'' averts this.

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* TooAwesomeToUse: She is an extremely powerful character, but she requires her dragonstone to attack. It has fifty uses and counterattacks against enemies also count. There is no way to repair it (outside of a [[GoodBadBugs Good Bad Bug]]) and there is only one of them, so once it's used fifty times, she becomes completely useless. Happily, as so often happens, Thankfully, ''Heroes'' averts this.

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* LightningBruiser: Starts as a FragileSpeedster like most first pegasus knights, but can grow out of it much quicker thanks to several factors that benefit her in the earlygame: an enemy lineup with less emphasis on [[TacticalRockPaperScissors axes]] than in other games, an entire chapter full of [[CannonFodder weak monsters]] that she can practically solo, and several statboosters that perfectly compliment her statline. While the other pegasus knights have better growths, Vanessa has raw EXP on her side and can easily snowball to the point where she might even end up stronger than ''[[DiscOneNuke Seth]]''.



* FragileSpeedster: So fast that she can feasibly double with Steel Lances even with her low Constitution, but a bit on the frail side. She turns into more of a LightningBruiser after promotion.



* LightningBruiser: She's naturally prone to ending up this way most of the time, a rarity among Pegasus Knights.



* EleventhHourRanger: A subversion from the usual in the series; she is the last unit in the main story you recruit, but with 4 chapters still to go.

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* EleventhHourRanger: A subversion from the usual in the series; Subverted; she is the last unit in the main story you recruit, but with 4 chapters still to go.go, and is otherwise a completely ordinary unit without the powerful abilities or story importance usually associated with the archetype.



* OvershadowedByAwesome: A decent unit in her own right, in-game Syrene is sadly overshadowed by two pegasus knights that have much more room to grow. Not helping things is that she joins near the climax. Unless Vanessa and Tana have been neglected, there is no real reason to use her.

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* OvershadowedByAwesome: LateCharacterSyndrome: A decent serviceable unit in her own right, in-game Syrene but is sadly greatly overshadowed by two the other pegasus knights that have knights, and really most other units in the army. There's not much more room to grow. Not helping things is that she joins near the climax. Unless Vanessa and Tana have been neglected, there is no real reason to use her.her unless you feel like doing a [[CombinationAttack Triangle Attack]] or are ''really'' strapped for able bodies.



* LightningBruiser: While Gerik is extremely balanced at the outset, he rapidly grows to be downright ''godly''.

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* LightningBruiser: While Gerik is extremely Extremely balanced at the outset, he rapidly grows to be downright ''godly''.but becomes much more capable upon promotion, with his only weak points being Luck and Resistance.



* MsFanservice: Lets see; she's extremely good-looking, has dark and mysterious features, kicks tons of ass, is [[SugarAndIcePersonality cool and sexy yet has a soft side]], has pink hair, and apparently has amazing legs? Aw yeah!

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* MsFanservice: Lets see; she's extremely good-looking, has A very good-looking ActionGirl with dark and mysterious features, kicks tons of ass, is [[SugarAndIcePersonality cool and sexy yet has a hidden soft side]], has pink hair, and apparently has amazing legs? Aw yeah![[ShesGotLeg quite the leg]], to boot.



* PlayingWithFire: Starts using a Fire tome. It should be noticed that he loses the ability to use Anima magic if he promotes into a Shaman... and ''gains it back'' if you promote him into a Druid.

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* PlayingWithFire: Starts using with a Fire tome. It should be noticed that he He actually loses the ability to use Anima magic if he promotes into a Shaman... Shaman, and ''gains only gains it back'' back if you promote him into a Druid.



* OvershadowedByAwesome: Is statistically inferior to Moulder (who joins earlier and at a higher level) in many ways and also competes with Artur ''and'' Lute for promotion: she can be perfectly useful healing alongside Moulder in the early game, but is unlikely to last beyond that.



* CountryMouse: He and Glen, in their backstory. They were from the countryside, working in their parents's fields and becoming very skilled in chasing animals away. They were taken in by the military after they threw stones at a bunch of stray dogs that were hounding Vigarde's crew.

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* CountryMouse: He and Glen, in their backstory. They were from the countryside, working in their parents's parents' fields and becoming very skilled in chasing animals away. They were taken in by the military after they threw stones at a bunch of stray dogs that were hounding Vigarde's crew.



* GlassCannon: His Speed and strength is tremendous, but his Resistance is very poor, and though he has a great base, he won't advance his defenses far, with a 25% growth.



* LightningBruiser: Has tremendous Strength and good enough Speed after a single Speedwing to kill most things he comes across, with high HP and [[DownplayedTrope acceptable]] Defense... [[WeakToMagic his Resistance is another story]].



* WeakToMagic: Has very low Resistance, like most wyverns. It's notable in his case because he also has terrible Luck, which [[CriticalHit makes his odds against crit-boosted magic enemies]] like Thunder Mages and even ''Monks'' rather sketchy.



* ConvenientReplacementCharacter: Between his very high ranking [[WalkingArmory across all melee weapons]], canto ability, and [[MightyGlacier all-around high base stats barring Speed]],[[note]]Which can be compensated with [[InfinityPlusOneSword Garm]]'s Speed bonus.[[/note]] Duessel could effectively replace any melee unit that's been [[{{Permadeath}} killed off]] or has [[CantCatchUp fallen behind]]. Especially convenient is this timing of when he joins: immediately before one of the toughest chapters in the game, on Ephiriam's route.

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* ConvenientReplacementCharacter: Between his very high ranking [[WalkingArmory across all melee weapons]], canto ability, and [[MightyGlacier all-around high base stats barring Speed]],[[note]]Which can be compensated with [[InfinityPlusOneSword Garm]]'s Speed bonus.[[/note]] Duessel could effectively replace any melee unit that's been [[{{Permadeath}} killed off]] or has [[CantCatchUp fallen behind]]. Especially convenient is this timing of when he joins: immediately before one of the toughest chapters in the game, on Ephiriam's Ephraim's route.



* FourStarBadass: He's a Great Knight, has high HP, can't be affected by bows, and is bold enough to speak his mind against Vigarde.

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* FourStarBadass: He's a Great Knight, has high HP, can't be affected by bows, almost unbeatable defenses, and is bold enough to speak his mind against Vigarde.
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* PlotArmor: Even when defeated, Seth cannot truly die, as he is mandatory for cutscenes.


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* PlotArmor: Even when defeated, Innes cannot truly die, as he is mandatory for cutscenes. However, if he has been defeated as an NPC in his join chapter in Eirika's route, he remains unplayable.


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* PlotArmor: Even when defeated, L'Arachel cannot truly die, as she is mandatory for cutscenes. However, if she has been defeated as an NPC in her join chapter, she remains unplayable.
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* ArcherArchetype: He joins Seth as one of Eirika's main advisers on strategy and tactics, and is kind-hearted but notably haughty and [[NoSocialSkills can't have a proper conversation to save his life]]. His artwork also shows him as being very slender, and Eirika tells him that he needs to stay behind her in a support conversation.
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* NiceGuy: He has the largest support pool besides Ephraim and Eirika, composed of the most standoffish, prickly, or otherwise unapproachable people -- with [[IncrediblyLamePun Ice affinities]], to boot. [[EmotionlessGirl Marisa]] and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Innes]] are the most obvious, but [[ShrinkingViolet Artur and Natasha]] as well. It appears that he '''actively''' seeks out withdrawn people to talk to.

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* NiceGuy: He has the largest support pool besides Ephraim and Eirika, composed of the most standoffish, prickly, or otherwise unapproachable people -- with [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Ice affinities]], to boot. [[EmotionlessGirl Marisa]] and [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold Innes]] are the most obvious, but [[ShrinkingViolet Artur and Natasha]] as well. It appears that he '''actively''' seeks out withdrawn people to talk to.
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* BarbaricBattleaxe: DoubleSubverted. He ''used'' to be this way, being extremely HotBlooded in combat and fighting with an axe, but a decade or so of retirement and raising his son has made him much more mellow... until events like his supports with Seth cause him to reawaken his love for combat once more.


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* BarbaricBattleaxe: A villager who fights with an axe, Ross is HotBlooded as heck and likely has to be stopped from rushing in against the bandits on his join chapter.


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* BarbaricBattleaxe: A relentless LargeHam and {{Berserker}}, he fights with the utmost fury and is extremely potent in combat as well with his axe.

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* WorfHadTheFlu: Rather, he was given a Silver Sword against [[spoiler:Valter's]] Killer Lance resulting in a blatantly one-sided battle that belies Glen's stats, which are worthy of a man his rank. In-universe this can be excused as [[spoiler:Valter intended to kill Glen and came prepared while Glen was caught completely off-guard.]]

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* WorfHadTheFlu: Rather, he was given a Silver Sword against [[spoiler:Valter's]] Killer Lance resulting in a blatantly one-sided battle that belies Glen's stats, which are worthy of a man his rank. In-universe this can be excused as Justfied In-universe: [[spoiler:Valter intended to kill Glen and came prepared while Glen was caught completely off-guard.]]



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%%* UnluckyChildhoodFriend: To Eirika.
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He's been in love with Erika since the day they first met, but never had the courage to tell her. Of the many romantic options Erika has in the game, he's not one of them, and by the time he has the confidence to make his feelings known, [[spoiler: he's being possessed by a demon.]]
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WellDoneSonGuy: To Vigarde.Vigarde. Vigarde was deeply beloved by the people of Grado and living up to his legacy put an enormous amount of pressure on Lyon. [[spoiler: Vigarde's death throws Lyon over the DespairEventHorizon, as he's convinced that he's not capable of taking care of the people of Grado without his father's help.]]
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* DefectorFromDecadence: She's clearly disgusted with Gheb's cruelty and clearly has doubts about the propaganda she was led to be; actually talking to Franz or either of the Renais twins is enough to get her to defect outright.

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* DefectorFromDecadence: She's clearly disgusted with Gheb's cruelty and clearly has doubts about the propaganda she was led to be; believe; actually talking to Franz or either of the Renais twins is enough to get her to defect outright.
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* UniqueEnemy: As an enemy unit, Rennac is the only enemy rogue in the entire game, appearing in one chapter of both routes and can be recruited. This is possibly because adding generic enemy ones would be unfair due to the class's innate ability.

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* UniqueEnemy: As an enemy unit, Rennac is the only enemy rogue in the entire game, appearing in one chapter of both routes and can be recruited. This is possibly because adding generic rogues already have the Pick skill and do not need a Lockpick unlike Thieves, thus stopping enemy ones rogues from stealing valuable items and gold would be unfair due to the class's innate ability.too frustrating and tedious.
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* FromNobodyToNightmare: All of the trainees qualify to some degree or another in the series, but Amelia ''really'' deserves a mention due to [[DefectorFromDecadence the context she presents as]]. When you recruit her, she's meant to be nothing more than CannonFodder for Grado to send at its troops, with Amelia believing in the propaganda given the villainized accounts of Ephraim and Eirika's heroics. Upon realizing there's more to it than it seems, she defects, and can go from a weakling into an utter powerhouse who can, depending on your playthrough and route, not only slaughter most of Grado's generals by herself but ''[[KingSlayer kill their king]]'' and potentially be the one to ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu seal away Formortiis for good]]''. By this point, she had fully realized her desire to be a hero to protect the one's she loved, likely being freakishly strong at this point.

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* FromNobodyToNightmare: All of the trainees qualify to some degree or another in the series, but Amelia ''really'' deserves a mention due to [[DefectorFromDecadence the context she presents as]]. When you recruit her, she's meant to be nothing more than CannonFodder for Grado to send at its troops, with Amelia believing in the propaganda given the villainized accounts of Ephraim and Eirika's heroics. Upon realizing there's more to it than it seems, she defects, and can go from a weakling into an utter powerhouse who can, depending on your playthrough and route, not only slaughter most of Grado's generals by herself but ''[[KingSlayer ''[[TheKingslayer kill their king]]'' and potentially be the one to ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu seal away Formortiis for good]]''. By this point, she had fully realized her desire to be a hero to protect the one's she loved, likely being freakishly strong at this point.
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* CharacterDevelopment: She goes from a character who is a NaiveEverygirl who believes the propaganda spread about the Renais twins exploits, to joining them upon realizing how evil Grado is, to becoming a genuine heroine and champion as either an Armor Knight or Paladin.


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* DefectorFromDecadence: She's clearly disgusted with Gheb's cruelty and clearly has doubts about the propaganda she was led to be; actually talking to Franz or either of the Renais twins is enough to get her to defect outright.


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* FromNobodyToNightmare: All of the trainees qualify to some degree or another in the series, but Amelia ''really'' deserves a mention due to [[DefectorFromDecadence the context she presents as]]. When you recruit her, she's meant to be nothing more than CannonFodder for Grado to send at its troops, with Amelia believing in the propaganda given the villainized accounts of Ephraim and Eirika's heroics. Upon realizing there's more to it than it seems, she defects, and can go from a weakling into an utter powerhouse who can, depending on your playthrough and route, not only slaughter most of Grado's generals by herself but ''[[KingSlayer kill their king]]'' and potentially be the one to ''[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu seal away Formortiis for good]]''. By this point, she had fully realized her desire to be a hero to protect the one's she loved, likely being freakishly strong at this point.

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* BodyguardCrush: If she develops feelings for Forde or [[HeroesWantRedheads Seth]].

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* BodyguardCrush: If she develops feelings for Forde or [[HeroesWantRedheads Seth]].Seth.



* HeroesWantRedheads: Seth if she gets a A-Support with him.



* HeroesWantRedheads: Joshua has red hair and L'Arachel, Natasha, and Marisa are all potential {{love interest}}s, though only the latter two get an ending with him.



* HeroesWantRedheads: Both of her love interests, Seth or Joshua, are redhead men.

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* BellyDancer: Unlike the other dancers, she's the odd one out because of her belly dancing.


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* SultryBellyDancer: Unlike the other dancers, she's the odd one out because of her belly dancing.
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* HiddenBuxom: {{Downplayed|trope}}. Her original and ''Heroes'' artworks don't leave all that much room for doubt already, but her Hallowee outfit sports a form-fitting lab coat which shows off her assets much more definitively.

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* HiddenBuxom: {{Downplayed|trope}}. Her original and ''Heroes'' artworks don't leave all that much room for doubt already, but her Hallowee Halloween outfit sports a form-fitting lab coat which shows off her assets much more definitively.

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* HiddenBuxom: Her Halloween alt in Heroes sports a form-fitting lab coat which shows her to be rather well-endowed.

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* HiddenBuxom: {{Downplayed|trope}}. Her Halloween alt in Heroes original and ''Heroes'' artworks don't leave all that much room for doubt already, but her Hallowee outfit sports a form-fitting lab coat which shows off her to be rather well-endowed.assets much more definitively.



* MadScientist: Dresses as one for her Halloween outfit in ''Heroes'', complete with beakered potions of dubious origin and a pair of swirly-eyed goggles. Considering how she [[GenkiGirl normally]] [[{{Cloudcuckoolander}} acts]], this is awfully fitting.



* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Instead of staying idly in her castle, she travels the lands in search of heroic deeds, and has a big role in solving the problems of ths story.

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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Instead of staying idly in her castle, she travels the lands in search of heroic deeds, and has a big role in solving the problems of ths the story.

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