Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 17 (click to see context) from:
Got fleshed out considerably in the ExpandedUniverse media, including the ''[[Literature/EighthDoctorAdventures Eighth Doctor Adventures]]'' novels, the ''Magazine/DoctorWhoMagazine'' comics and the ''Creator/BigFinish'' audio series, before finally coming BackForTheDead in the TV series for a prelude to the 50th anniversary special.
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 329 (click to see context) from:
* AllForNothing: Driving himself to death and coming back to life knowing the person he tried to rescue essentially chose suicide over being scooped up by him made Eight ''snap.''
to:
* AllForNothing: Driving himself to death - and coming back to life knowing the person he tried to rescue essentially chose suicide over being scooped up by him - made Eight ''snap.''
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 346 (click to see context) from:
* CharacterDevelopment: His long arcs with his Creator/BigFinish companions lead him to adopt a much more solemn outlook on life -- and he ends up world-weary and alone in the very end. It doesn't help that almost all the friends he mentions in "The Night of the Doctor" are dead -- in fact, only [[spoiler: Charley]] is still alive, but he thinks she's dead too.
to:
* CharacterDevelopment: His long arcs with his Creator/BigFinish companions lead him to adopt a much more solemn outlook on life -- and he ends up world-weary and alone in the very end. It doesn't help that almost all the friends he mentions in "The Night of the Doctor" are dead -- in fact, only [[spoiler: Charley]] Charley is still alive, but he thinks she's dead too.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 275 (click to see context) from:
** Adverted with him and Four in "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsTheLightAtTheEnd The Light at the End]]", as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along rather swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and obnoxious and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be embarassing]], but he also has a great deal of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and he most certainly prefers him to Seven.
to:
** Adverted with him and Four in "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsTheLightAtTheEnd The Light at the End]]", as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along rather swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and obnoxious and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be embarassing]], but he also has a great deal of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and he most certainly prefers him to Seven.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 275 (click to see context) from:
** Adverted with him and Four in "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsTheLightAtTheEnd The Light at the End]]", as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along rather swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be awful]], he also have a lot of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and certainly prefers him to Seven.
to:
** Adverted with him and Four in "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsTheLightAtTheEnd The Light at the End]]", as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along rather swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and obnoxious and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be awful]], embarassing]], but he also have has a lot great deal of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and he most certainly prefers him to Seven.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 275 (click to see context) from:
** Adverted with him and Four in ''The Light at the End'', as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be awful]], he also have a lot of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and certainly prefers him to Seven.
to:
** Adverted with him and Four in ''The "[[Recap/BigFinishDoctorWhoSpecialsTheLightAtTheEnd The Light at the End'', End]]", as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along rather swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be awful]], he also have a lot of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and certainly prefers him to Seven.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Adverted with him and Four in ''The Light at the End'', as the two of them share quite a few personality traits and quirks, and so they get along swimmingly. Also subverted in the same story with him and Six. While he does find Six to be somewhat arrogant and [[IWasQuiteAFashionVictim his fashion sense to be awful]], he also have a lot of respect for him, possibly even more than any of the other incarnations, and certainly prefers him to Seven.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Green Eyes is no longer a valid trope https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13545690040A55560100&page=87#2151
Changed line(s) 167 (click to see context) from:
* KaleidoscopeEyes: Usually blue, (sometimes described as IcyBlueEyes), but sometimes {{gray|eyes}} or {{green|Eyes}}. DependingOnTheWriter and his own mercurial personality, a lot of the associated characteristics of each eye color apply.
to:
* KaleidoscopeEyes: Usually blue, (sometimes described as IcyBlueEyes), but sometimes {{gray|eyes}} or {{green|Eyes}}.green. DependingOnTheWriter and his own mercurial personality, a lot of the associated characteristics of each eye color apply.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 199 (click to see context) from:
to:
* WalkingTheEarth: The Doctor basically does this from ''The Ancestor Cell'' to ''Escape Velocity''; having lost his memory and with the TARDIS reduced to a small box, he spends the entire twentieth century wandering Earth until his ship repairs itself (the novels set during this time take place in Britain, but the Doctor's dialogue suggests that he travelled to other parts of the world).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 57 (click to see context) from:
* RetroactivePrecognition: An ability no other Doctor has ever shown again. Fan explanations vary from "it's a regeneration trauma thing" to "maybe Eight is special" to "Rule One: The Doctor Lies".
to:
* RetroactivePrecognition: An ability no other Doctor has ever shown again. Fan explanations vary from "it's a regeneration trauma thing" to "maybe Eight is special" to "he's close to a temporal rift created by the malfunctioning TARDIS" to "Rule One: The Doctor Lies".
* BrokenPedestal: Basically does this to the human-factor Daleks he created in "The Evil of the Daleks" when he meets them in "Children of the Revolution" as he is forced to break his word to them to try and save their human prisoners, but muses that it was inevitable he would let down their high expectations of him when they put him in such an impossible position.
Changed line(s) 89 (click to see context) from:
* {{Pride}}: Always part of the Doctor's personality, but Eight's second story arc (collected in "The Glorious Dead" graphic novel) explores this as a character flaw.
to:
* {{Pride}}: Always part of the Doctor's personality, but Eight's second story arc (collected in "The Glorious Dead" graphic novel) explores this as a character flaw.flaw (albeit aided by [[spoiler:the manipulation of the Master]].
* DisabilityImmunity: A minor example; in the novel ''To the Slaughter'', the Doctor states that he was immune to the insanity-inducing Halcytone paint because he cannot see the colour violet, which was apparently taken from him in ''Unnatural History'' (although he could simply have been being facetious).
Changed line(s) 145 (click to see context) from:
* EyeScream: At one point, he's forced to operate on his own eye while in the middle of severe emotional trauma. The TARDIS is able to help him a little, but it's not pleasant for anyone involved.
to:
* EyeScream: At one point, he's forced to operate on his own eye while in the middle of severe emotional trauma.trauma to remove an implant that was helping the prison he was trapped in predict his actions and prevent his escape. The TARDIS is able to help him a little, but it's not pleasant for anyone involved.
Changed line(s) 195 (click to see context) from:
* TraumaInducedAmnesia: Which he never quite gets over (although [[spoiler:it is later suggested that he actually erased his memory on purpose to create storage space in his psyche]]).
to:
* TraumaInducedAmnesia: Which he never quite gets over for the rest of his novel adventures (although [[spoiler:it is later suggested that he actually erased his memory on purpose to create storage space in his psyche]]).psyche, and the series ends with the implication that he will regain his old memories eventually]]).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* FutureMeScaresMe: In ''The Ancestor Cell'', [[spoiler:the Doctor is horrified to witness Grandfather Paradox, the version of himself that will result from his infection with the Paradox biodata virus]].
Changed line(s) 160 (click to see context) from:
* GorgeousPeriodDress: More attached to his Bill Hickock clothes than in the comics and audios.
to:
* GorgeousPeriodDress: More attached to his Bill Hickock clothes than in the comics and audios.audios; he even dons an equivalent when totally amnesic and waking up wearing Fitz's old coat.
Changed line(s) 194,196 (click to see context) from:
* TraumaInducedAmnesia: Which he never quite gets over.
* UnskilledButStrong: Actually, this is pretty much how he fights. Maybe because he [[TechnicalPacifist doesn't like to fight]], he doesn't even seem to really know how. However, he's really quite [[MusclesAreMeaningless disproportionately tough]]. In ''To the Slaughter'', he lifts a woman in an office chair over his head. In ''Frontier Worlds'', he kicks someone in the head and [[EpicFail stubs his toe quite badly]].
* UnskilledButStrong: Actually, this is pretty much how he fights. Maybe because he [[TechnicalPacifist doesn't like to fight]], he doesn't even seem to really know how. However, he's really quite [[MusclesAreMeaningless disproportionately tough]]. In ''To the Slaughter'', he lifts a woman in an office chair over his head. In ''Frontier Worlds'', he kicks someone in the head and [[EpicFail stubs his toe quite badly]].
to:
* TraumaInducedAmnesia: Which he never quite gets over.
over (although [[spoiler:it is later suggested that he actually erased his memory on purpose to create storage space in his psyche]]).
* UnskilledButStrong: Actually, this is pretty much how he fights. Maybe because he [[TechnicalPacifist doesn't like to fight]], he doesn't even seem to really knowhow.how (apart from when he was operating on amnesia-induced instinct in ''The Eight Doctors''). However, he's really quite [[MusclesAreMeaningless disproportionately tough]]. In ''To the Slaughter'', he lifts a woman in an office chair over his head. In ''Frontier Worlds'', he kicks someone in the head and [[EpicFail stubs his toe quite badly]].
* UnskilledButStrong: Actually, this is pretty much how he fights. Maybe because he [[TechnicalPacifist doesn't like to fight]], he doesn't even seem to really know
Changed line(s) 227 (click to see context) from:
** After the TV movie, he's an enthusiastic science-adventurer. By Dark Eyes, he's a bitter man looking desperately for hope. By The Night of the Doctor, he's completely broken, trying to do everything he can to hold himself together as the man he used to be.
to:
** After the TV movie, he's an enthusiastic science-adventurer. By Dark Eyes, ''Dark Eyes'', he's a bitter man looking desperately for hope. By The ''The Night of the Doctor, Doctor'', he's completely broken, trying to do everything he can to hold himself together as the man he used to be.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
How To Write An Example - Don't Write Reviews
Changed line(s) 37 (click to see context) from:
* FiveFingerDiscount: In his single TV adventure, the Eighth Doctor demonstrated a talent for pickpocketing people while directly speaking with them. He uses this talent to steal an ID card and a gun... [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome which he uses to hold himself hostage.]]
to:
* FiveFingerDiscount: In his single TV adventure, the Eighth Doctor demonstrated a talent for pickpocketing people while directly speaking with them. He uses this talent to steal an ID card and a gun... [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome which he uses to hold himself hostage.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 218 (click to see context) from:
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: In "Dark Eyes", Eight realises that he's at war with the Daleks, and in "Dark Eyes 2", he makes it quite clear that he does '''not''' want to get involved in any war between the Daleks and the Time Lords. Despite all his attempts to avoid it, he ''has'' to get involved in it, whether he likes it or not. [[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor "The Night of the Doctor"]] provides plenty of nice opportunities for DramaticIrony.
to:
* BeardOfSorrow: Downplayed. Eight is mostly shown as clean-shaved like his TV Movie appearance, but all his adventures following the death of Lucie have him sporting PermaStubble.
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: In "Dark Eyes", Eight realises that he's at war with the Daleks, and in "Dark Eyes 2", he makes it quite clear that he does '''not''' want to get involved in any war between the Daleks and the Time Lords. Despite all his attempts to avoid it, he ''has'' to get involved in it, whether he likes it or not.[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor "The "[[Recap/DoctorWho50thPrequelTheNightOfTheDoctor The Night of the Doctor"]] Doctor]]" provides plenty of nice opportunities for DramaticIrony.
* BecauseDestinySaysSo: In "Dark Eyes", Eight realises that he's at war with the Daleks, and in "Dark Eyes 2", he makes it quite clear that he does '''not''' want to get involved in any war between the Daleks and the Time Lords. Despite all his attempts to avoid it, he ''has'' to get involved in it, whether he likes it or not.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* BunnyEarsLawyer: He's a bit loopy even by Doctor standards, though it doesn't stop him getting the job done.
Changed line(s) 31 (click to see context) from:
* CloudCuckoolander: He's a bit loopy even by Doctor standards, though it doesn't stop him getting the job done.
to:
* CloudCuckoolander: He's a bit loopy even by Doctor standards, though it doesn't stop him getting the job done. ContrastingSequelMainCharacter: His upbeat and forgiving attitude contrasted Seven's MagnificentBastard tendencies.
Deleted line(s) 37 (click to see context) :
* {{Foil}}: His upbeat and forgiving attitude contrasted Seven's MagnificentBastard tendencies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
I updated the Big Finish pic to include all 3 outfits - the TV Movie outfit, his Dark Eyes and Ravenous outfit, and his Time War outfit
Changed line(s) 204,205 (click to see context) from:
[[quoteright:150:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/eight2_475_1356.jpg]]
[[caption-width-right:150:''"I may talk like a fool, but I always know what I'm talking like a fool about!"'']]
[[caption-width-right:150:''"I may talk like a fool, but I always know what I'm talking like a fool about!"'']]
to:
[[caption-width-right:150:''"I
[[caption-width-right:350:''"I may talk like a fool, but I always know what I'm talking like a fool about!"'']]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 210,211 (click to see context) from:
Bouncy, chatty and very fond of humans, the Eighth Doctor was fleshed out considerably in Creator/BigFinish audio stories and quickly became the series' BreakoutCharacter. After the new TV series stated that the Doctor would end up committing double genocide in the Last Great Time War, Big Finish started slowly but steadily [[BreakTheCutie breaking him]]. Eventually he would stop being in the monthly audios, and he would get his own separate series (called the "New Eighth Doctor Adventures") which takes place at a later time in the same continuity and its sequel series ''Dark Eyes'' sees him eventually outgrowing his Victorian look.
to:
Bouncy, chatty and very fond of humans, the Eighth Doctor was fleshed out considerably in Creator/BigFinish audio stories and quickly became the series' BreakoutCharacter. After the new TV series stated that the Doctor would end up committing double genocide in the Last Great Time War, Big Finish started slowly but steadily [[BreakTheCutie breaking him]]. Eventually he would stop being in the monthly audios, and he would get his own separate series (called the - "The "New Eighth Doctor Adventures") Adventures" which takes place at a later time in the same continuity and its sequel series ''Dark Eyes'' Eyes'', ''Doom Coalition'', and ''Ravenous'' sees him eventually outgrowing his Victorian look.
----
----
Changed line(s) 322 (click to see context) from:
to:
----
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 69,71 (click to see context) from:
%%!! Tropes associated with the Radio Times comics
%%* RoguesGallery
%%* RoguesGallery
to:
Changed line(s) 96,98 (click to see context) from:
%%!! Tropes associated with Titan Comics
%%* RoguesGallery
%%* RoguesGallery
to:
Changed line(s) 202 (click to see context) from:
[[folder:Big Finish Tropes]]
to:
Deleted line(s) 389 (click to see context) :
%%!! Tropes associated with Titan comics
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
%%!! Tropes associated with Titan Comics
Deleted line(s) 97,99 (click to see context) :
%%!! Tropes associated with Titan Comics
%%* RoguesGallery
%%* RoguesGallery
Changed line(s) 199,200 (click to see context) from:
%%* RoguesGallery
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
%%!! Tropes associated with other comics
Changed line(s) 102 (click to see context) from:
!!Tropes associated with ''Eighth Doctor Adventures''
to:
%%!! Tropes associated with the Virgin New Adventures
!!Tropes associated with''Eighth the Eighth Doctor Adventures''Adventures
!!Tropes associated with
Added DiffLines:
%%!! Tropes associated with Short Trips
%%* RoguesGallery
%%!! Tropes associated with other books
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 69 (click to see context) from:
!!Tropes associated with the ''Doctor Who Magazine'' line
to:
%%!! Tropes associated with the Radio Times comics
%%* RoguesGallery
!!Tropes associated withthe ''Doctor Who Magazine'' lineMagazine''
%%* RoguesGallery
!!Tropes associated with
Added DiffLines:
%%!! Tropes associated with IDW Publishing
%%* RoguesGallery
%%!! Tropes associated with Titan Comics
%%* RoguesGallery
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 271 (click to see context) from:
* RoguesGallery: Autons, Caleera, the Celestial Toymaker, the Clocksmith, Cybermen, Daleks, Dalek Time Controller, Davros, Eight Legs, the Eleven, the Eminence, the Headhunter, Ice Warriors, Kotris, the Kandyman, the Kro'ka, Krynoids, the Master, Morbius, the Monk, Nimon, Padrac, Peter Rathbone, Rassilon, Sebastian Grayle, Viyrans, Voord, Weeping Angels, Wirrn, Zagreus, and Zygons.
to:
* RoguesGallery: Autons, Caleera, the Celestial Toymaker, the Clocksmith, Cybermen, Daleks, Dalek Time Controller, Davros, Eight Legs, the Eleven, the Eminence, the Headhunter, Ice Warriors, Kotris, the Kandyman, the Krampus, the Kro'ka, Krynoids, the Master, Morbius, the Monk, Nimon, Padrac, Peter Rathbone, Ravenous, Rassilon, Sandminer robots, Sebastian Grayle, Viyrans, Voord, Weeping Angels, Wirrn, Zagreus, and Zygons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 353 (click to see context) from:
* TheLastStraw: Cass deciding to go to her death and Eight holding out until both of them are slain, only for him to be brought back temporarily, is the final insult. The Doctor barrels over the cliff of despair and becomes a nameless man who will war with the universe for ages and never let up or show even a shred of apprehension because he can't afford to anymore: fate has spoken, and the Doctor is ''done''. Now the universe will now the wrath of the Warrior.
to:
* TheLastStraw: Cass deciding to go to her death and Eight holding out until both of them are slain, only for him to be brought back temporarily, is the final insult. The Doctor barrels over the cliff of despair and becomes a nameless man who will war with the universe for ages and never let up or show even a shred of apprehension because he can't afford to anymore: fate has spoken, and the Doctor is ''done''. Now the universe will now know the wrath of the Warrior.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 370 (click to see context) from:
* WakingUpAtTheMorgue: Wakes up again with Cass' body lying on a bier next to him. Told he has only a few minutes to live. His last day was pretty bad.
to:
* WakingUpAtTheMorgue: Wakes up again with Cass' body lying on a bier next to him. Told he has only a few minutes to live. [[BookEnds His last day was pretty bad.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 192,193 (click to see context) from:
--> ''"Sorry, I was soliloquising again. Filthy habit."''
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 11,12 (click to see context) from:
-->''"The universe hangs by such a delicate thread of coincidences - it's useless to meddle with it unless, like me, you're a Time Lord."''
to:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 200,201 (click to see context) from:
* ArchEnemy: Rassilon and the Dalek Time Controller.
** Come ''Dark Eyes 2'', and the Macqueen!Master starts attainting this status again.
** Come ''Dark Eyes 2'', and the Macqueen!Master starts attainting this status again.
to:
* ArchEnemy: Rassilon and the Dalek Time Controller.
**Controller. Come ''Dark Eyes 2'', and the Macqueen!Master Master starts attainting attaining this status again.
**
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 272 (click to see context) from:
* RoguesGallery: Autons, Caleera, the Celestial Toymaker, the Clocksmith, Cybermen, Daleks, Dalek Time Controller, Davros, Eight Legs, the Eleven, the Eminence, the Headhunter, Ice Warriors, Kotris, the Kro'ka, Krynoids, the Master, Morbius, the Monk, Nimon, Padrac, Peter Rathbone, Rassilon, Sebastian Grayle, Viyrans, Voord, Weeping Angels, Wirrn, Zagreus, and Zygons.
to:
* RoguesGallery: Autons, Caleera, the Celestial Toymaker, the Clocksmith, Cybermen, Daleks, Dalek Time Controller, Davros, Eight Legs, the Eleven, the Eminence, the Headhunter, Ice Warriors, Kotris, the Kandyman, the Kro'ka, Krynoids, the Master, Morbius, the Monk, Nimon, Padrac, Peter Rathbone, Rassilon, Sebastian Grayle, Viyrans, Voord, Weeping Angels, Wirrn, Zagreus, and Zygons.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BroughtDownToNormal: When his second heart is surgically removed, the Doctor finds himself more prone to fatigue than usual, and is no longer able to metabolise foreign drugs or use his respiratory bypass system; he regains these abilities when his original second heart is allowed to 'die' and he can grow a new one.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 329 (click to see context) from:
* DeadManWalking[=/=]NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Permanently dies in a spaceship crash, but is temporarily brought back to life for around 4 minutes by the Sisterhood of Karn, so he could choose his next regeneration.
to:
* DeadManWalking[=/=]NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Permanently dies He did actually die in a the spaceship crash, crash that also claimed Cass' life, but is temporarily brought back to life for around 4 minutes by the Sisterhood of Karn, so he could choose his next regeneration.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 329 (click to see context) from:
* DeadManWalking[=/=]NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Actually dies (as in permanently) in a spaceship crash, but is temporarily brought back to life for around 4 minutes by the Sisterhood of Karn, so he could choose his next regeneration.
to:
* DeadManWalking[=/=]NormallyIWouldBeDeadNow: Actually Permanently dies (as in permanently) in a spaceship crash, but is temporarily brought back to life for around 4 minutes by the Sisterhood of Karn, so he could choose his next regeneration.
