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* BewareTheNiceOnes: He doesn't lay a hand on her, but when Nellie reveals she doesn't have the money to pay off James [=McKay=], Manny absolutely ''explodes'', screaming at her in Spanish about how he's always tried to help her, but she's only ever ruined his life and broken his heart.

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* BewareTheNiceOnes: He doesn't lay a hand on her, but when When Nellie reveals she doesn't have the money to pay off James [=McKay=], Manny is finally fed up with her behavior and absolutely ''explodes'', screaming at her in Spanish about how he's always tried to help her, but she's only ever ruined his life and broken his heart.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: He doesn't lay a hand on her, but when Nellie reveals she doesn't have the money to pay off James McKay, Manny absolutely ''explodes'', screaming at her in Spanish about how he's always tried to help her, but she's only ever ruined his life and broken his heart.

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* BewareTheNiceOnes: He doesn't lay a hand on her, but when Nellie reveals she doesn't have the money to pay off James McKay, [=McKay=], Manny absolutely ''explodes'', screaming at her in Spanish about how he's always tried to help her, but she's only ever ruined his life and broken his heart.
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* BewareTheNiceOnes: He doesn't lay a hand on her, but when Nellie reveals she doesn't have the money to pay off James McKay, Manny absolutely ''explodes'', screaming at her in Spanish about how he's always tried to help her, but she's only ever ruined his life and broken his heart.
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* TheEveryman: Manny serves as our eyes and ears into the chaotic world that is UsefulNotes/RiseOfTheTalkies-era Hollywood, and as such lacks the eccentricities that much of the other characters have and is an OnlySaneMan for the most part.

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* TheEveryman: Manny serves as our eyes and ears into the chaotic world that is UsefulNotes/RiseOfTheTalkies-era MediaNotes/RiseOfTheTalkies-era Hollywood, and as such lacks the eccentricities that much of the other characters have and is an OnlySaneMan for the most part.
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* AscendedExtra: InUniverse. He started off as a trumpet player who worked as part of an onscreen orchestra in a musical. His chance interactions with Manny eventually leads to him gaining more and more of a spotlight.
* ButNotTooBlack: He isn't as dark-skinned as his bandmates, forcing Manny to convince him to paint himself darker for the sake of selling to Southern audiences.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: He quits Hollywood after being forced to put on {{Blackface}}. The last we see of him, he's playing in small bars but clearly happier than when he was in front of the camera.
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* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: His movie ideas are ''terrible'', but he thinks them hilarious, and Manny and the Count feel like they have to laugh so they don't die.

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* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: His movie ideas -- "a 50-year-old midget" plays a child prodigy, structured as a strange joke on the audience; the story of the O.K. Corral with Wyatt Earp as "a full-fledged retard" -- are ''terrible'', but he thinks them hilarious, and they're hilarious. Manny and the Count feel like they have to laugh along so they don't die.[[note]]The script originally contained him explaining another, semi-pornographic idea for "stripper nuns" that fight cops and wear nothing under their habits, which even in Pre-Code Hollywood would be considered unfilmable and outrageous.[[/note]]
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* BornInTheWrongCentury: Or rather "born in the wrong part of the century". Nellie does have genuine talent as an actress, possessing considerable charisma and magnetism and a skill at non-verbal acting and even for playing more outgoing, assertive women. She'd have been right at home in the silent era or a later period when there'd have been more roles to fit her talent, even just a few years after the film is set when films had more assertive, working class female leads played by actresses. She just has the bad luck to be hopelessly unsuited to the kind of traditional female roles the studios are trying to make at the start of the sound era to court more conservative audiences and combined with her own vices and poor decisions, it sinks her career.

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* BornInTheWrongCentury: Or rather "born in the wrong part of the century". Nellie does have genuine talent as an actress, possessing considerable charisma and magnetism and a skill at non-verbal acting and even for playing more outgoing, assertive women. She'd have been right at home in the silent era or a later period when there'd have been more roles to fit her talent, even just a few years after the film is set when films had more assertive, working class female leads played by actresses.actresses from more working-class backgrounds like Nellie. She just has the bad luck to be hopelessly unsuited to the kind of traditional female roles the studios are trying to make at the start of the sound era to court more conservative audiences and combined with her own vices and poor decisions, it sinks her career.
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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Twice, once at a high class party where he has to put up with a great deal of CondescendingCompassion and after a humiliating performance where he has to put on {{blackface}}[[note]]His bandmates had darker skin than him, so it was mandated that he darken himself so he wouldn't appear white compared to them on the monochrome film, which would have made it impossible to sell the film in the South as a "mixed" production[[/note]] he leaves his employee pass at the gate and doesn't look back.

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* ScrewThisImOuttaHere: Twice, once at a high class party where he has to put up with a great deal of CondescendingCompassion and after a humiliating performance where he has to put on {{blackface}}[[note]]His bandmates had darker skin than him, he, so it was mandated that he darken himself so he wouldn't appear white compared to them on the monochrome film, which would have made it impossible to sell the film in the South as a "mixed" production[[/note]] he leaves his employee pass at the gate and doesn't look back.
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* HopelessSuitor: Towards Nellie, who he is hopelessly in love with, even though she doesn't seem to notice his feelings and sees him just as a friend; [[spoiler:even though Nellie does agree to marry Manny and says that she loves him back, it's left ambiguous as to whether she ever actually loved him romantically or if she's just trying to make him feel better]].

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* HopelessSuitor: Towards Nellie, who whom he is hopelessly in love with, even though she doesn't seem to notice his feelings and sees him just as a friend; [[spoiler:even though Nellie does agree to marry Manny and says that she loves him back, it's left ambiguous as to whether she ever actually loved him romantically or if she's just trying to make him feel better]].
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* TheGamblingAddict: Nellie has a serious gambling problem. It's a minor character flaw at first but later triggers the third act, since she's [[spoiler:$85,000 (For adjustment, that's ''1.5 million'' in 2022) in debt to a mob boss and Manny tries to fix it for her]].

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* TheGamblingAddict: Nellie has a serious gambling problem. It's a minor character flaw at first but later triggers the third act, since she's [[spoiler:$85,000 (For adjustment, (with adjustment for inflation, that's ''1.5 million'' in 2022) in debt to a mob boss and Manny tries to fix it for her]].
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* ChaoticStupid: Nellie can be defined as an engine of chaos, that pulls everyone around her in and leaves mayhem wherever she goes. And she genuinely made an attempt to change but that only made her worse. Her inability to play by the rules ultimately caught up to her when she wound up in debt to a deranged gangster. She does not long after.

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* ChaoticStupid: Nellie can be defined as an engine of chaos, that pulls everyone around her in and leaves mayhem wherever she goes. And she genuinely made an attempt to change but that only made her worse. Her inability to play by the rules ultimately caught up to her when she wound up in debt to a deranged gangster. She does dies not long after.
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: After calming down while on the run, she tells Manny she's bad for him and she's made peace with probably going to die soon.
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* AintTooProudToBeg: Showcases such in an unsightly and effective manner when he begs the [[spoiler:hitman who had just killed the Count]] not to murder him just for being in the same apartment, claiming in broken, sobbing English that he's a "nobody". Ultimately seeing him as NotWorthKilling, helped somewhat by seeing Manny piss himself in fear, [[spoiler:the hitman]] just tells Manny to leave Los Angeles and to keep his mouth shut.
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[[caption-width-right:300:''"Call me Manny."'']]

->''"And nothing happened, for real, but at the same time it's something even more important than life. You can feel it. Like, I don't know. Movies are sad sometimes. Movies are fucking happy."''
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* ChaoticStupid: Nellie can be defined as an engine of chaos, that pulls everyone around her in and leaves mayhem wherever she goes. And she genuinely made an attempt to change but that only made her worse. Her inability to play by the rules ultimately caught up to her when she wound up in debt to a deranged gangster. She does not long after.
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Rewriting to be less about how hot we find the actress and more about how the character is seen in-universe.


* UnkemptBeauty: Nellie spends large portions of the film looking dirty and sweaty with her hair a mess and her make-up applied poorly and almost never has a more formal appearance except for certain film roles. None of it takes away from the fact that she's still played by the gorgeous Margot Robbie.

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* UnkemptBeauty: Nellie spends large portions of the film looking dirty and sweaty with her hair a mess and her make-up applied poorly and almost never has a more formal appearance except poorly. She is usually only formally done up for certain film roles. None of it takes away from the fact that she's roles or events. She's still played by the gorgeous Margot Robbie.considered a head-turner.
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* BrooklynRage: She's from New Jersey but otherwise fits this trope to a T, being loud, brash, opinionated, volatile and energetic.


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* UnkemptBeauty: Nellie spends large portions of the film looking dirty and sweaty with her hair a mess and her make-up applied poorly and almost never has a more formal appearance except for certain film roles. None of it takes away from the fact that she's still played by the gorgeous Margot Robbie.
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* BornInTheWrongCentury: Or rather "born in the wrong part of the century". Nellie does have genuine talent as an actress, possessing considerable charisma and magnetism and a skill at non-verbal acting and even for playing more outgoing, assertive women. She'd have been right at home in the silent era or a later period when there'd have been more roles to fit her talent, even just a few years after the film is set when films had more assertive, working class female leads. She just has the bad luck to be hopelessly unsuited to the kind of traditional female roles the studios are trying to make at the start of the sound era to court more conservative audiences and combined with her own vices and poor decisions, it sinks her career.

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* BornInTheWrongCentury: Or rather "born in the wrong part of the century". Nellie does have genuine talent as an actress, possessing considerable charisma and magnetism and a skill at non-verbal acting and even for playing more outgoing, assertive women. She'd have been right at home in the silent era or a later period when there'd have been more roles to fit her talent, even just a few years after the film is set when films had more assertive, working class female leads.leads played by actresses. She just has the bad luck to be hopelessly unsuited to the kind of traditional female roles the studios are trying to make at the start of the sound era to court more conservative audiences and combined with her own vices and poor decisions, it sinks her career.



* FeigningIntelligence: Her attempts to fit in with the more educated types Elinor is friends with are unconvincing to say the least as she thinks Theatre/MissJulie is an actress, not a play, and mistakenly refers to Literature/GeorgeEliot as a man when asked about her work.

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* FeigningIntelligence: Her attempts to fit in with the more educated types Elinor is friends with are unconvincing to say the least as she thinks Theatre/MissJulie is an actress, not a play, and mistakenly refers to Literature/GeorgeEliot Creator/GeorgeEliot as a man when asked about her work.

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