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** Those who believe it wouldn't, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, Lady Nagant, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by giving Izuku an [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief immersion-breaking]] level of PlotArmor or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.
** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia's'' story, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wasn't designed with a BadassNormal protagonist in mind and would require to extensively overhaul the entire series and its world-building in order to accommodate for such drastic changes but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.

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** Those who believe it wouldn't, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, Lady Nagant, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by giving Izuku an [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief immersion-breaking]] level of PlotArmor or have having his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.
** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree ultimately agrees that ''My Hero Academia's'' story, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wasn't designed made with a BadassNormal protagonist in mind and would require to extensively overhaul the entire series and its world-building in order to accommodate for such drastic changes but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.
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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic, and she was one of only two major heroes to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase, while Midnight has had the impact of her death relegated mostly to the subplot revolving around Mina. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to die just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.

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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic, Mic and that she was being built up as a mentor figure for Mina and Momo, and she was one of only two major heroes to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase, while Midnight has had the impact of her death relegated mostly to the subplot revolving around Mina. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to die just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.
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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic, and she was one of only two major heroes to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to die just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.

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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic, and she was one of only two major heroes to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase.phase, while Midnight has had the impact of her death relegated mostly to the subplot revolving around Mina. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to die just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.
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Some parts of this were just straight up incorrect. While Mic, Aizawa, and Midnight had some focus put on their bond it was far from "A major plot point", Crust was also a casualty of the war, and whatever the merits of Star and Stripe, she has been mentioned time and time again as having wounded All For One enough that his completion was delayed and his assimilation of Shigaraki was damaged enough for him to regain control. We just had another reference to her a few chapters ago.


* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, and she was the ''only'' major hero to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.

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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, Mic, and she was the ''only'' one of only two major hero heroes to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death die just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.
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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia's'' story, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wasn't designed with a BadassNormal protagonist in mind and would require to extensively overhaul the entire series and it's world-building in order to accommodate for such drastic changes but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.

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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia's'' story, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wasn't designed with a BadassNormal protagonist in mind and would require to extensively overhaul the entire series and it's its world-building in order to accommodate for such drastic changes but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.
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* With the series having a ''lot'' of characters, there is some discourse over whether or not the series needs to give ''focus'' to those characters. Many point out that Horikoshi appears to have a knack for creating characters with [[CastOfSnowflakes colorful designs and interesting characterizations]], [[EnsembleDarkhorse many of whom becomes fan-favorites]] and would love for him to give more focus to them and include them more in the narrative, most of them being from 1-A and 1-B in particular, these fans themselves express frustration [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter when they're left to the wayside]], not helped by Horikoshi even stating a desire ''to'' give certain characters more focus, but not seeming to follow through. Conversely, many argue that these characters don't ''need'' to get focus since they're '' side characters'' at the end of the day, that giving [[SpotlightStealingSquad every character focus ends up wasting time that could be spent on the greater narrative or on further developing the main characters]] ,[[labelnote:*]]Midoriya, Bakugo, Todoroki, and Uraraka[[/labelnote]] and that expecting Horikoshi to be able to adequately provide focus to the ''hundreds'' of characters in the series is unrealistic. The final arc in particular furthered this debate, with supporters happy that numerous characters like Mezo Shoji, Mina Ashido, or Nejire Hado were ''finally'' [[ADayInTheLimelight getting time in the spotlight even if only for a chapter or two]] , while detractors saw it as needless detours keeping focus off of the conflicts that ''actually'' need to happen.[[labelnote:*]]Deku vs. Shigaraki, the Heroes fighting All For One, Uravity vs. Toga, and Dabi vs. the Todoroki family.[[/labelnote]] Then there are those who think these moments are, while not awful, half-baked ideas that feel slapped in at the last minute, particularly with Nejire, who after over 200 chapters finally received her own backstory, though for many it was too little, too late. And then there are those that, while happy some particular characters got spotlight, want plenty of ''other'' popular characters to not be ignored either, particular EnsembleDarkHorse characters like Hanta Sero, Itsuka Kendo, and Tetsutetsu Tetsutetsu.

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* With the series having a ''lot'' of characters, there is some discourse over whether or not the series needs to give ''focus'' to those characters. Many point out that Horikoshi appears to have a knack for creating characters with [[CastOfSnowflakes colorful designs and interesting characterizations]], [[EnsembleDarkhorse many of whom becomes fan-favorites]] and would love for him to give more focus to them and include them more in the narrative, most of them being from 1-A and 1-B in particular, these fans themselves express frustration [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter when they're left to the wayside]], not helped by Horikoshi even stating a desire ''to'' give certain characters more focus, but not seeming to follow through. Conversely, many argue that these characters don't ''need'' to get focus since they're '' side characters'' at the end of the day, that giving [[SpotlightStealingSquad every character focus ends up wasting time that could be spent on the greater narrative or on further developing the main characters]] ,[[labelnote:*]]Midoriya, Bakugo, Todoroki, and Uraraka[[/labelnote]] and that expecting Horikoshi to be able to adequately provide focus to the ''hundreds'' of characters in the series is unrealistic. The final arc in particular furthered this debate, with supporters happy that numerous characters like Mezo Shoji, Mina Ashido, or Nejire Hado were ''finally'' [[ADayInTheLimelight getting time in the spotlight even if only for a chapter or two]] , while detractors saw it as needless detours keeping focus off of the conflicts that ''actually'' need to happen.[[labelnote:*]]Deku vs. Shigaraki, the Heroes fighting All For One, Uravity vs. Toga, and Dabi vs. the Todoroki family.[[/labelnote]] Then there are those who think these moments are, while not awful, half-baked ideas that feel slapped in at the last minute, particularly with Nejire, who after over 200 chapters finally received her own backstory, though for many it was too little, too late. late[[labelnote:*]]the fact that her past personality was divulged in a flashback by Amajiki Tamaki to further his own development despite already receiving much more focus than her only exacerbates this issue.[[/labelnote]] And then there are those that, while happy some particular characters got spotlight, want plenty of ''other'' popular characters to not be ignored either, particular EnsembleDarkHorse characters like Hanta Sero, Itsuka Kendo, and Tetsutetsu Tetsutetsu.
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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia'' as it is, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wouldn't work with a BadassNormal protagonist and would require to overhaul the entire series in order to accommodate for such drastic and radical changes, but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.

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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia'' as it is, Academia's'' story, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wouldn't work wasn't designed with a BadassNormal protagonist in mind and would require to extensively overhaul the entire series and it's world-building in order to accommodate for such drastic and radical changes, changes but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.
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* The treatment of the series' female characters has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, and she was the ''only'' major hero to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.

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* The treatment of the series' female characters in general has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, and she was the ''only'' major hero to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.
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** Those who believe it wouldn't, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify Midoriya's survival]] or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.

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** Those who believe it wouldn't, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Lady Nagant, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify Midoriya's survival]] giving Izuku an [[WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief immersion-breaking]] level of PlotArmor or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.
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* The treatment of the series' female characters has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]], but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, and she was the ''only'' major hero to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.

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* The treatment of the series' female characters has come under increased scrutiny starting from the Meta Liberation Army Arc. During the battle between the League of Villains and the MLA, not only is Curious the only major member of the MLA to die, but she dies an incredibly graphic CruelAndUnusualDeath when Toga uses Uraraka's Quirk to send her floating in the air before dropping Curious to the ground so hard she is reduced to a bloody smear. Then, during the following Paranormal Liberation War Arc, not only does Mirko get [[FanDisservice brutally maimed and dismembered]], dismembered]] ([[MutilationConga which happens again in the Final War Arc]]), but Midnight, one of the only main pro heroines and teachers, is KilledOffscreen by some minor villains with little to no fanfare and is [[ForgottenFallenFriend barely mentioned again afterwards]] despite her bond with Aizawa and Present Mic being a major plot point up to this point, and she was the ''only'' major hero to die outside of a bunch of redshirts. Compare this to how the male Sir Nighteye was given a more dignified tear-jerking death scene in a hospital bed surrounded by his loved ones. He was also brought up a few times after his death and his absence from the story actually affected the plot; with Midoriya having to intern under Endeavor due to his agency still being in the turnover phase. Some have also pointed out that Gran Torino managed to survive a much more graphic injury we actually see despite the fact that his death would have carried more emotional weight due to his connection with central characters, Midoriya and All Might specifically. Perhaps the biggest controversy was Star and Stripe, who was suddenly introduced with a StoryBreakerPower Quirk hyped up as a bigger deal than One For All, only to suffer a relatively inconsequential death just a few chapters later purely to show how powerful Shigaraki has become, leaving debates about whether or not her single fight was worth its time. Detractors see this as blatant sexism and "[[StuffedIntoTheFridge fridging]]" in an artificial attempt to shock the viewers and raise the stakes, while supporters claim that it's realistic that just because a character is a woman doesn't mean they're exempt from injury and even death in an action series like this. Yet another party feels that the characters were [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter too underutilized]] for their deaths/injuries to have impact and wishes their stories and relationships with other characters had been better fleshed out first.
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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia'' as it is, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wouldn't work with a BadassNormal protagonist and would require to [[JustForPun overhaul]] the entire series in order to accommodate for such drastic and radical changes, but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.

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** Then, there's a third camp (though not as loud or visible) that sits on an awkward middle ground: those who believe that, like the first group, Midoriya should have stayed Quirkless, but like the second group, agree that ''My Hero Academia'' as it is, with its high stakes SaveTheWorld plot and [[StoryBreakerPower overpowered villains running amok]] simply wouldn't work with a BadassNormal protagonist and would require to [[JustForPun overhaul]] overhaul the entire series in order to accommodate for such drastic and radical changes, but argue that a more grounded plot with lower stakes and a smaller power scale would have made for a more interesting story.
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* Yaoyorozu's hero costume. Defenders say that since her Quirk requires exposed body area, it makes sense for the places with the largest fat deposits on the body -- for women, often the chest, stomach, and thighs –- to be exposed, and cite Midnight's experiences with discriminatory laws as evidence that complaining about heroines wearing skimpy hero costumes is misogynistic. Detractors claim it's illogical and sexualized, given that it doesn't offer chest support and it exposes so much of her unprotected body, and that Yaoyorozu seems to do just fine in situations where she has to wear the less-exposing school athletic uniform. They also claim that there was no reason for Horikoshi to make exposure a requirement of her Quirk to begin with, and thus no reason to have such a young character wearing such a skimpy hero costume. It is worth noting that for the stage play, the costume for Yaoyorozu's actress included a zipper.

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* Yaoyorozu's hero costume. Defenders say that since her Quirk requires exposed body area, it makes sense for the places with the largest fat deposits on the body -- for women, often the chest, stomach, and thighs –- to be exposed, and cite Midnight's experiences with discriminatory laws as evidence that complaining about heroines wearing skimpy hero costumes is misogynistic. Detractors claim it's illogical and sexualized, given that it doesn't offer chest support and it exposes so much of her unprotected body, and that Yaoyorozu seems to do just fine in situations where she has to wear the less-exposing school athletic uniform. They also claim that there was no reason for Horikoshi to make exposure a requirement of her Quirk to begin with, and thus no reason to have such a young character wearing such a skimpy hero costume. It is worth noting that for the stage play, the costume for Yaoyorozu's actress included a zipper. and with the introduction of Mirio, and specifically his quirk intergrated costume that permeates WITH him instead of falling of him like with normal clothes, the argument of direct skin exposure being needed becomes weaker.
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* One of the longest-running debates is whether the story would have been better if Midoriya had stayed Quirkless :

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* One of the longest-running debates is whether the story would have been better if Midoriya had stayed Quirkless : Quirkless:
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* Since Aizawa is a BaseBreakingCharacter, his teaching methods are also controversial, particularly how willing he is to expel his students. Supporters argue that it's natural for him to have high standards for would-be heroes and quickly shoo out those who don't have what it takes, and that, as mentioned above, he was right to be angry with most of his class for making an unauthorized attempt to save Bakugo or [[AccompliceByInaction not doing anything about the ones who did]]. Detractors, however, argue that Aizawa's Quirk test is no better of a judge of talent than the entrance exam, especially for Midoriya,[[labelnote:*]]Although since Aizawa doesn't know about the true nature of Midoriya's Quirk, and only knows that going full power injures Midoriya, some argue that Aizawa can't be blamed for making a decision based on limited information. But it's also noted that Shinso(whom Aizawa considers a victim of the entrance exam's favoring flashy Quirks, and later tutors himself) would have done about as poorly as Midoriya did on Aizawa's Quirk Test. Perhaps even worse since Midoriya had the bonus of training under All Might for nearly a year while Shinso presumably did no physical training at all given the outcome of their fight in the Sports Festival [[/labelnote]]. They also argue that even threatening to expel those who didn't take part in the Kamino Ward rescue mission was excessive. The later revelation that Aizawa didn't actually expel any of his students either is a realistic twist that's consistent with his use of "rational deceptions" or a poor attempt to justify Aizawa's actions in retrospect.

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* Since Aizawa is a BaseBreakingCharacter, his teaching methods are also controversial, particularly how willing he is to expel his students. Supporters argue that it's natural for him to have high standards for would-be heroes and quickly shoo out those who don't have what it takes, and that, as mentioned above, he was right to be angry with most of his class for making an unauthorized attempt to save Bakugo or [[AccompliceByInaction not doing anything about the ones who did]]. Detractors, however, argue that Aizawa's Quirk test is no better of a judge of talent than the entrance exam, especially for Midoriya,[[labelnote:*]]Although since Aizawa doesn't know about the true nature of Midoriya's Quirk, and only knows that going full power injures Midoriya, some argue that Aizawa can't be blamed for making a decision based on limited information. But it's also noted that Shinso(whom Shinso (whom Aizawa considers a victim of the entrance exam's favoring flashy Quirks, and later tutors himself) would have done about as poorly as Midoriya did on Aizawa's Quirk Test. Perhaps even worse since Midoriya had the bonus of training under All Might for nearly a year while Shinso presumably did no physical training at all given the outcome of their fight in the Sports Festival [[/labelnote]]. They also argue that even threatening to expel those who didn't take part in the Kamino Ward rescue mission was excessive. The later revelation that Aizawa didn't actually expel any of his students either is a realistic twist that's consistent with his use of "rational deceptions" or a poor attempt to justify Aizawa's actions in retrospect.
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** Those who support this idea, consider Midoriya receiving One For All a case in which the hero gets powerups handed to him, and would have preferred seeing Izuku become a great hero despite being Quirkless, often citing other characters that ''have'' Quirks but [[FightsLikeANormal functionally fight as if Quirkless]] due to the limitations they have, Aizawa[[labelnote:*]]His "Erasure" only erases a Quirk so long as he doesn't blink, and as such is very fast and agile, being compared to a {{ninja}} InUniverse.[[/labelnote]] and Stain[[labelnote:*]]His "Bloodcurdle" only works if he can ''ingest'' his targets blood, so he needs to be able to ''cut'' them first, hence his use of bladed weapons and extreme manueverability.[[/labelnote]] in particular being mentioned. They also point out that Midoriya becoming a famous hero with such unfavorable odds would have been a more inspiring tale than Midoriya becoming a great hero because he was lucky to meet somebody who gave him an overpowered Quirk. It does not help that many official plot summaries and advertisements for ''My Hero Academia'' [[NeverTrustATrailer describe the premise in ways that make it sound like Midoriya stays Quirkless]], meaning a good number of viewers and readers get into the series expecting that only to end up disappointed.
** Those who oppose that idea, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify Midoriya's survival]] or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.

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** Those who support this idea, believe it would, consider Midoriya receiving One For All a case in which the hero gets powerups handed to him, and would have preferred seeing Izuku become a great hero despite being Quirkless, often citing other characters that ''have'' Quirks but [[FightsLikeANormal functionally fight as if Quirkless]] due to the limitations they have, Aizawa[[labelnote:*]]His "Erasure" only erases a Quirk so long as he doesn't blink, and as such is very fast and agile, being compared to a {{ninja}} InUniverse.[[/labelnote]] and Stain[[labelnote:*]]His "Bloodcurdle" only works if he can ''ingest'' his targets blood, so he needs to be able to ''cut'' them first, hence his use of bladed weapons and extreme manueverability.[[/labelnote]] in particular being mentioned. They also point out that Midoriya becoming a famous hero with such unfavorable odds would have been a more inspiring tale than Midoriya becoming a great hero because he was lucky to meet somebody who gave him an overpowered Quirk. It does not help that many official plot summaries and advertisements for ''My Hero Academia'' [[NeverTrustATrailer describe the premise in ways that make it sound like Midoriya stays Quirkless]], meaning a good number of viewers and readers get into the series expecting that only to end up disappointed.
** Those who oppose that idea, believe it wouldn't, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] whether by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify Midoriya's survival]] or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.
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** Those who oppose that idea, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] either by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify his survival]] or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that he ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.

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** Those who oppose that idea, however, argue that Midoriya is forced to learn how to use One For All, turning it from an AwesomeButImpractical ability that breaks his bones to a power he can use as effectively as All Might once did, leaving him room for growth, and argue that it would be unrealistic to expect a Quirkless Midoriya to be able to effectively fight against villains who have mastered their Quirks, some being downright overpowered, and would just end up being [[CurbStompBattle curb-stomped by most of his opponents]] [[labelnote:*]]Such as Muscular, Overhaul, Shigaraki, All for One, Bakugo, Shoto,... [[/labelnote]] or [[AssPull beating them in ways that would be unsatisfying]] either whether by requiring Horikoshi [[PlotArmor to bend the story backwards in order to justify his Midoriya's survival]] or have his foes grab the IdiotBall, pointing out that he Horikoshi ultimately decided against Midoriya being a Quirkless hero for this very reason. They finally argue that a Quirkless Izuku would have been seriously {{overshadowed|ByAwesome}} by his Quirk-wielding classmates.

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