History BreakThemByTalking / Literature

* ''Literature/TheHobbit'' Thorin gives Bombur an exceedingly nasty one because he’s annoyed about Bombur crying about being sick and in pain-right after the latter has awoken from a six-day long coma, forgotten the last four months of his life, and found out that the groups food ran out the day before. It’s cut from nearly all adaptations, except for a graphic novel adaptation, which notably leaves out the bit about Thorin telling Bombur that they would have abandoned him if he hadn’t woken up when he did.

** Saruman, using his enchanted voice, can persuade unsuspecting enemies to join and serve him -- ''even after they defeat him in war''. In the chapter "The Voice of Saruman" in ''The Two Towers,'' Saruman gives the speech to all of his triumphant enemies, and nearly all are swayed by the power of his voice; the Riders of Rohan are wholly overcome by it, while Pippin is particularly shamed. It doesn't work on Gandalf the White, however, and only vaguely troubles Theoden.

** This goes UpToEleven in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', when the Flood turn [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several {{Breaking Speech}}es once (causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus); one to the Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the above-mentioned speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.

* Zhuge Liang does this at least two or three times (depending on how you count) in classic Chinese novel Literature/RomanceOfTheThreeKingdoms. First, he causes the death of Zhou Yu, the capable but pompous chief adviser of the nominal ally Wu kingdom by causing a series of humiliating events. Second, he causes the death of Cao Zhen, the commander-in-chief of the enemy Wei kingdom, by sending him a humiliating letter. Finally, he causes the death of Wei minister Wang Lang by humiliating him in a debate in front of both armies.
* ''Literature/ASeriesOfUnfortunateEvents'':
** In ''The Bad Beginning, ''Olaf reveals to the audience that he has just legally married Violet and played everyone for a sap. When Mr. Poe demands that the Chief of Police arrest him, Olaf calls Poe and everyone out on how the kids had repeatedly tried to warn the adults and asked for help, but they wouldn't listen to them. "No one ever listens to children".
** There's a zig-zagged and ultimately subverted example in ''The Penultimate Peril,'' which extends on the previous example. Olaf points out to the children that each and every adult they've ever met has failed them and left them to the mercy of an incredibly cruel world, and that as a result the Baudelaires have strayed increasingly towards BlackAndGreyMorality. This badly shakes the Baudelaires, but they decide to put their faith in their adult allies one last time...[[spoiler: and are failed yet ''again''. After this, they promptly throw deference to the wind and join Count Olaf]]--only to finally subvert the trope, as they accept that while to an extent Count Olaf is right, he's not completely right, and they choose instead to ally only with the adults that have proven themselves worthy of the Baudelaires' trust.
--> '''Violet:''' We can rely on our friends more than you can rely on yours.
--> '''Count Olaf:''' Is that so? Have you learned nothing after all your adventures? Every noble person has failed you, Baudelaires. Why, look at the idiots standing next to you! A judge who let me marry you, a man who gave up on you altogether, and a sub-sub-librarian who spends his life sneaking around taking notes. They're hardly a noble bunch...And every second, more associates of mine get closer and closer.
--> '''Violet:''' So do our friends.
--> '''Count Olaf:''' Only if they've managed to survive my eagles.
--> '''Klaus:''' They will. Just like we've survived you.
--> '''Count Olaf:''' And how did you survive me? ''The Daily Punctilio'' is full of your crimes. You lied to people. You stole. You abandoned people in danger. You set fires. Time after time you've relied on treachery to survive, just like everyone else. There are no truly noble people in this world.
* The murderer X in Creator/AgathaChristie's ''Literature/{{Curtain}}'' is very good at this, manages to manipulate people using seeming simple but manipulative comments, gesture and words, to provokes his target to murder their source of hatred. However, he didn't like to kill directly himself, instead enjoying the process of their target murders.

* A heroic example appears in ''Literature/{{Hogfather}}'', where Susan uses this on PsychopathicManchild Jonathan Teatime -- the first time anyone's managed to shake him up even a little bit.
-->'''Susan''': I think I know you, Teatime. You're the mad kid they're all scared of, right? The giggling excitable one even the bullies never touched because if they did he went insane and kicked and bit. The one who didn't know the difference between chucking a stone at a cat and setting it on fire. I bet no one wanted to play with you. Not the kid with no friends. Kids know a mind like yours even if they don't know the right words for it. The kind of little boy who looks up dolls' dresses...\\
'''Teatime''': I ''[[ITakeOffenseToThatLastOne didn't!]]''
* ''Literature/TheLordOfTheRings'':
** Saruman, using his enchanted voice, can persuade unsuspecting enemies to join and serve him -- ''even after they defeat him in war''. In the chapter "The Voice of Saruman" in ''The Two Towers,'' Saruman gives the speech to all of his triumphant enemies, and nearly all are swayed by the power of his voice; the Riders of Rohan are wholly overcome by it, while Pippin is particularly shamed. It doesn't work on Gandalf the White, however, and only vaguely troubles Theoden.
** Grí­ma Wormtongue is a student of Saruman's, and uses similar non-magical techniques on Théoden to render him helpless and hopeless against Saruman, and on Éowyn in order to break her resolve and drive her to desperation.
* In ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'', Glaurung [[TheDragon father of dragons]] delivered one combined neatly with a MindScrew to Túrin having paralyzed him with his hypnotic glare until he "saw himself as in a mirror misshapen by malice, and loathed that which he saw".
* Euthyphro, from Plato's ''Socratian Dialogs'' seems to fit this one rather nicely. Socrates attempts to get a description of piety from Euthyphro, but continues to twist every argument Euthyphro offers to his own needs, making this OlderThanFeudalism.
* From the ''Literature/ThursdayNext'' novel ''The Eyre Affair''. The BigBad, Acheron Hades, can talk most people into anything. Several times he has escaped by convincing cops to hand over their guns, which are then used on the cops. When Hades needs a lackey, he simply convinces a suitably fit civillain to be one. Fortunately Next can resist to the extent of keeping her wits (and gun), but Hades is still far more clever.
* Literature/SisterhoodSeries by Creator/FernMichaels: In the book ''Under the Radar'', the Prophet Harold Evanrod tries to tell his followers of the pedophile polygamist sect Heaven On Earth, "You see, this is the Devil at work! I told you the people on the outside would try to drive us away from our homes and our religion because they don't understand it. They will be forever damned, and there will be no salvation for any of them. I want you all to be strong because we will prevail." However, the Vigilantes give an effective ShutUpHannibal response to that.

* Subverted in ''Literature/TheTamuli'' by Creator/DavidEddings, where Sir Bevier is sent to interrogate a prisoner and uses double-talk and open-ended questions to drag the interview out for three hours. [[spoiler:It turns out all he was doing was trying to annoy the guy and make him think about the things they wanted to know so that Xanetia could be invisible in the room and read his mind, gleaning the information that they knew the man wouldn't give up]].
* Fanny Price, the heroine of Creator/JaneAusten's ''Literature/MansfieldPark'', frequently gets these from her aunt, Mrs. Norris (no, not ''[[Literature/HarryPotter that]]'' Mrs. Norris), due to being TheUnfavorite.
* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'':
** In ''Literature/BloodRites'', Harry Dresden on the book's BigBad Lord Raith. By the end of it, Raith is incredibly furious that Dresden deconstructed him so well.
** ''Literature/SummerKnight'': When Harry is already emotionally offset by finding an injured Elaine and rushing her to safety, [[spoiler:Aurora]] lays out a carefully laced speech hitting Harry hard so he does not ask her directly if she had a hand in the murder of the Summer Knight.
** In ''Literature/DeathMasks'' the ubervillain Nicodemus tried to do something along these lines to Harry in an effort to corrupt him over to his side, and scores some hits, though Harry ends up resisting it.
** On a later occasion, Harry does a version of this on the shadow of the manipulative FallenAngel Lasciel in an attempt to turn her away from evil, [[spoiler:and, unlike the immutable true fallen, the shadow is just as malleable as the medium she lived in: Harry's mind. In the end, Harry succeeded and changed the shadow back to a benign force. However, soon after the change, she sacrificed herself and took a powerful mental attack, allowing Harry a chance to fight the telepathic monster they were fighting]].
** Harry gives an ''epic'' one in ''Literature/SkinGame'', where he [[spoiler: hammers Deirdre's death at her father's hands into Nicodemus over and over again until he snaps and orders Harry be killed, something that breaks his word of cooperation and allows Harry to fight back. It actually works ''too'' well, as it reveals to Nicodemus that only someone with a child of his own could be so effective at such a tactic. ]]

* [[OmnicidalManiac Ruin]] of ''Literature/{{Mistborn}}'' loves doing this to [[TheHero Vin]] by consistently pointing out that Vin causes destruction wherever she goes, and therefore has been serving his purposes all along. In the end, though, she gets Ruin back by pointing out that as a human being she has the power to protect and destroy at the same time, unlike the much more limited gods such as Ruin. [[spoiler: She them proves it by killing Ruin via HeroicSacrifice]].
* Henry does this to Dorian in ''Literature/ThePictureOfDorianGray''.
* From the Literature/{{Deryni}} works by Creator/KatherineKurtz:
** Kelson's speech to Sicard [=MacArdry=] at their final confrontation in ''The King's Justice'', when Kelson tries to get Sicard to surrender. [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech He reminds Sicard of the crimes he and his forces have committed]], and he informs the rebel leader that his other son and heir is dead. When the effort fails, [[GoodIsNotSoft Kelson uses a bow and arrow to kill Sicard]].
** Edmund Loris is apt to indulge in this, using [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech lengthy and vitriolic diatribes on his target's failings]]. Two notable instances are his efforts to make Henry Istelyn cooperate with Judhael's illegal enthronement as a bishop in ''The Bishop's Heir'' and while physically torturing Duncan [=McLain=] in ''The King's Justice''.

* Inverted in the UsefulNotes/WorldWarII French novella ''Literature/LeSilenceDeLaMer'', wherein the unwilling hosts of a German officer resolve to resist by never speaking a word to him. He is eventually broken by the unrelenting silence - and by his own HeelRealisation.
* ''{{Literature/Suspicion}}'': BigBad Dr. Emmenberger and TheHero Inspector Bärlach try and fail to do this to each other. Emmenberger doesn't care about what will happen to him while Bärlach after a while simply refuses to talk or listen to Emmenberger.
* ''Literature/TheHungerGames'': Peeta Mellark manages this in his Quarter Quell interview. He is highly skilled when it comes to manipulating a crowd with his words and in this case he claims to have married Katniss and that she is pregnant with their love child in order to win her support in the Games. He accomplishes not only that but gets ''the Capitol audience'' so upset that some of them cry for the Games to be stopped.
* In ''Literature/ThoseThatWake'', Man in Suit is scarily good at this.
-->''I will answer any question you have, because by merely being honest, I will defeat you.''
* ''Literature/LordOfTheFlies'': [[spoiler: Simon encounters the Lord of the Flies in a vision, who tells him that evil is within all the boys, and it is only growing stronger, and he'll be a fool if he continues his righteous path.]]
* In ''Literature/{{Zeroes}}'', this is one of the applications of Scam's power, the Voice which says whatever necessary to accomplish what he desires. Prior to the story, he used his Voice in anger to deliver such a speech to the other Zeroes, resulting in the group splitting up.
* ''Franchise/{{Halo}}''[='s=] ''Literature/TheForerunnerSaga'' has plenty of this, courtesy of the Flood Gravemind and [[spoiler:(and its Precursor ancestors]].
** The Didact is on the receiving end of one on the tail end of the [[AdvancedAncientHumans Human]]-[[{{Precursors}} Forerunner]] War, given by an imprisoned being on the human capital world [[spoiler:claiming to be the last of the Precursors, the very race that created the Forerunners, but who now swear vengeance against them for killing almost all of their creators]]. It thoroughly traumatizes the Didact, breaking apart the beliefs and perceived truths for which he had fought and sacrificed his entire life (with his own children being among the casualties), and he spends the next 10,000 years burying the revelation deep in his memories and refusing to reveal them even to his beloved wife, for fear of their implications.
** This goes UpToEleven in ''Literature/HaloSilentium'', when the Flood turn [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] into a host through which to deliver several {{Breaking Speech}}es once (causing him to go mad from MindRape as a bonus); one to the Forerunners as a whole, expanding on the above-mentioned speech given to the Didact 10,000 years before, and one to the Master Builder, using [[spoiler:the Ur-Didact]] as a conduit through which the Master Builder's infected wives and children could accuse and taunt him. The latter act effectively turns the Master Builder from a MagnificentBastard extraordinaire into a broken, despairing, nigh-suicidial wreck.
* In the ''Literature/HomecomingSaga'', Hushidh, a [[TheEmpath "raveler"]] manages to verbally destroy the standing of Rashgallavik, the commander of the army occupying [[LadyLand the city state of Basillica]]. She can do this because he was merely standing in for the recently slain Gaballufix, the army's true leader[[note]]Though he took over for the disgraced and exiled Volemak[[/note]], so their loyalty to him was tenuous at best. Her guardian and mentor Raza immediately tells her [[NiceJobBreakingItHero how badly she just screwed up]].[[note]]By breaking Rashgallavik, she removed the only thing keeping the occupying army under control. Said army starts looting and pillaging withing hours.[[/note]]
* The Creator/MarquisDeSade frequently has libertine characters do this. If anyone objects to their acts of murder, rape, torture etc. the libertines calmly deconstruct every objection and tell them [[WhatIsEvil morality is subjective, just an illusion]], or what they do [[AppealToNature dictated by Nature]]. Of course, once that is done the objector usually gets the same treatment they had objected against to begin with, so it goes beyond simply breaking lectures.
* In ''Literature/ProjectTau'', Dennison does to Kalin when he forces him to concede that [[spoiler:he's nothing but a Project.]]
* In the first book of the ''Literature/PrinceRoger'' series, Captain Pahner gives Roger two [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech Reason You Suck Speeches]], the first of which has no real impact. But when Roger takes a crazy risk and jeopardizes the whole mission, Pahner gives him an epic verbal smackdown that actually does hit home, especially the part where he points out how many people have sacrificed their lives to protect Roger by this point, and that being reckless is a lousy way of honoring them. Roger doesn't break down in tears but seemingly comes close, makes a humble apology, and becomes notably more mature and thoughtful from that point on.

* ''Literature/TheHobbit'' Thorin gives Bombur an exceedingly nasty one because he’s annoyed about Bombur crying about being sick and in pain-right after the latter has awoken from a six-day long coma, forgotten the last four months of his life, and found out that the groups food ran out the day before. It’s cut from nearly all adaptations, except for a graphic novel adaptation, which notably leaves out the bit about Thorin telling Bombur that they would have abandoned him if he hadn’t woken up when he did.
-->'''Bombur''': (sitting on the ground because he’s barely strong enough to stand) Why ever did I wake up! I was having such beautiful dreams. I dreamed I was walking in a forest rather like this one, only lit with torches on the trees and lamps swinging from the branches and fires burning on the ground; and there was a great feast going on on, going on for ever. A woodland king was there with a crown of leaves, and there was a merry singing, and I could not count or describe the things there were to eat and drink.
-->'''Thorin''': You need not try, in fact if you can’t talk about something else, you had better be silent. We are quite annoyed enough with you as it is. If you hadn’t waked up, we should have left you to your idiotic dreams in the forest; you are no joke to carry even after weeks of short commons.
* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': In the first book, when Suriel's [[ArtificialIntelligence Presence]] is suggesting places for her to visit, one location is where Ozriel debated the ten greatest scholars of his day; three of them committed suicide shortly thereafter. In book ten, more detail is provided. [[spoiler:Icons are Platonic ideals that grant RealityWarper powers related to the Icon. It takes a lifetime of dedication to manifest an Icon. Ozriel demonstrated before witnesses that his understanding was so perfect that he could manifest whatever Icon he wished. He chose... the Broom Icon. [[BlackComedy The scholars were mortified that he turned their discipline into a joke, which is why three committed suicide]].]]

--> '''Red:''' (with panic in his voice) Aaaaaaah! How do you know all this? It isn't true! But the police - have they heard this fantastic tale, too?
--> '''Julian:''' What do you suppose? (Wishing the police do know, and he is not merely bluffing)

* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': In the first book, when Suriel's [[ArtificialIntelligence Presence]] is suggesting places for her to visit, one location is where Ozriel debated the ten greatest scholars of his day; three of them committed suicide shortly thereafter. In book ten, more detail is provided. [[spoiler:Icons are Platonic ideals that grant RealityWarper powers related to the Icon. It takes a lifetime of dedication to manifest an Icon. Ozriel demonstrated before witnesses that his understanding was so perfect that he could manifest whatever Icon he wished. He chose... the Broom Icon. [[BlackComedy The scholars were mortified that he turned their discipline into a joke, which is why three committed suicide]].]]

--->'''Bombur''': (sitting on the ground because he’s barely strong enough to stand) Why ever did I wake up! I was having such beautiful dreams. I dreamed I was walking in a forest rather like this one, only lit with torches on the trees and lamps swinging from the branches and fires burning on the ground; and there was a great feast going on on, going on for ever. A woodland king was there with a crown of leaves, and there was a merry singing, and I could not count or describe the things there were to eat and drink.
--->'''Thorin''': You need not try, in fact if you can’t talk about something else, you had better be silent. We are quite annoyed enough with you as it is. If you hadn’t waked up, we should have left you to your idiotic dreams in the forest; you are no joke to carry even after weeks of short commons.

** On a later occasion, Harry does a version of this on the shadow of the manipulative FallenAngel Lasciel in an attempt to turn her away from evil, [[spoiler:and, unlike the immutible true fallen, the shadow is just as malleable as the medium she lived in: Harry's mind. In the end, Harry succeeded and changed the shadow back to a benign force. However, soon after the change, she sacrificed herself and took a powerful mental attack, allowing Harry a chance to fight the telepathic monster they were fighting]].

* ‘’Literature/TheHobbit’’
Thorin gives Bombur an exceedingly nasty one because he’s annoyed about Bombur crying about being sick and in pain-right after the latter has awoken from a six day long coma, forgotten the last four months of his life, and found out that the groups food ran out the day before. It’s cut from nearly all adaptions, except for a graphic novel adaptation, which notably leaves out the bit about Thorin telling Bombur that they would have abandoned him if he hadn’t woken up when he did.

--->Bombur: (sitting on the ground because he’s barely strong enough to stand) Why ever did I wake up! I was having such beautiful dreams. I dreamed I was walking in a forest rather like this one, only lit with torches on the trees and lamps swinging from the branches and fires burning on the ground; and there was a great feast going on on, going on for ever. A woodland king was there with a crown of leaves, and there was a merry singing, and I could not count or describe the things there were to eat and drink.
--->Thorin: You need not try, in fact if you can’t talk about something else, you had better be silent. We are quite annoyed enough with you as it is. If you hadn’t waked up, we should have left you to your idiotic dreams in the forest; you are no joke to carry even after weeks of short commons.

—->Bombur: (sitting on the ground because he’s barely strong enough to stand) Why ever did I wake up! I was having such beautiful dreams. I dreamed I was walking in a forest rather like this one, only lit with torches on the trees and lamps swinging from the branches and fires burning on the ground; and there was a great feast going on on, going on for ever. A woodland king was there with a crown of leaves, and there was a merry singing, and I could not count or describe the things there were to eat and drink.
—->Thorin: You need not try, in fact if you can’t talk about something else, you had better be silent. We are quite annoyed enough with you as it is. If you hadn’t waked up, we should have left you to your idiotic dreams in the forest; you are no joke to carry even after weeks of short commons.

Thorin Bombur an exceedingly nasty one because he’s annoyed about Bombur crying about being sick and in pain. It’s cut from nearly all adaptions, except for a graphic novel adaptation, which notably leaves out the bit about Thorin telling Bombur that they would have abandoned him if he hadn’t woken up when he did.

* In Creator/HermannHesse's novel ''Demian'', the protagonist Emil does this to his friend and mentor Pistorius without really meaning to. During a philosophical debate Emil gets frustrated and offhandedly implies that all of Pistorius' ideas are unoriginal and stale, only to realize that his friend was already painfully aware of his own limitations, and that having them pointed out like that has wounded him deeply. Emil feels genuinely guilty (especially when the usually irascible Pistorius doesn't get angry and instead sadly concedes the truth) but it still marks the end of their close relationship.

* In ''Literature/ProjectTau'', Dennison does to Kalin when he forces him to concede that [[spoiler:he's nothing but a Project.]]

* A heroic example appears in ''Discworld/{{Hogfather}}'', where Susan uses this on PsychopathicManchild Jonathan Teatime -- the first time anyone's managed to shake him up even a little bit.

* The Creator/MarquisDeSade frequently has libertine characters do this. If anyone objects to their acts of murder, rape, torture etc. the libertines calmly deconstruct every objection and tell them [[WhatIsEvil morality is subjective, just an illusion]], or what they do [[AppealToNature dictated by Nature]]. Of course, once that is done the objector usually gets the same treatment they had objected against to begin with, so it goes beyond simply breaking lectures.