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* Deceit's entrance in "Putting Others First" is almost on par with his debut in terms of build up. Patton has pretty much gone into a complete breakdown, going OneWingedAngel and forcing Thomas to hypothetically choose between his life and those of his friends. And that’s when "Logan" finally puts his foot down, revealing his true self and actually ''coming to Thomas's aid''.
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* Deceit's entrance in "Putting Others First" is almost on par with his debut in terms of build up. Patton has pretty much gone into a complete breakdown, going OneWingedAngel and forcing Thomas to hypothetically choose between his life and those of his friends. And that’s that's when "Logan" finally puts his foot down, revealing his true self and actually ''coming to Thomas's Thomas' aid''.
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* Deceit’s entrance in “Putting Others First” is almost on par with his debut in terms of build up. Patton has pretty much gone into a complete breakdown, going OneWingedAngel and forcing Thomas to hypothetically choose between his life and those of his friends. And that’s when “Logan” finally puts his foot down, revealing his true self and actually ''coming to Thomas’ aid''.
-->'''“Logan”:''' ''[[SuddenlyShouting ENOUGH!]]'' This isn’t working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
'''Deceit:''' I’m happy to oblige.
-->'''“Logan”:''' ''[[SuddenlyShouting ENOUGH!]]'' This isn’t working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
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* Deceit’s Deceit's entrance in “Putting "Putting Others First” First" is almost on par with his debut in terms of build up. Patton has pretty much gone into a complete breakdown, going OneWingedAngel and forcing Thomas to hypothetically choose between his life and those of his friends. And that’s when “Logan” "Logan" finally puts his foot down, revealing his true self and actually ''coming to Thomas’ Thomas's aid''.
-->'''“Logan”:''' -->'''"Logan":''' ''[[SuddenlyShouting ENOUGH!]]'' This isn’t isn't working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” "conscientious" language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll You'll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
'''Deceit:'''I’m I'm happy to oblige.
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* On a meta-level, the steady increase in episode quality over the course of Season 2. Individual episodes are much more complex than they used to be, not only in the sense of tackling more difficult issues in the arenas of ethics and mental health, but in terms of production values and the use of special effects and commissioned artwork. The trend isn't without its downsides (Main/ScheduleSlip and the difficulty some viewers have in absorbing 40+ minute episodes about such dire topics), but it is impressive to binge-watch the series and see it go from a one-man show with five-minute episodes to the extravaganza it is today.
* Another meta example: the musical number in the Twelve Days of Christmas video—each part having to be completed in a continuous take and in time with all the others. The final video pulls this off to a tee, each Side remaining in character and in time, with all reactions seeming natural. The fact that this (not quite short) song gets pulled off the way it does shows the effort that goes into these videos.
* Another meta example: the musical number in the Twelve Days of Christmas video—each part having to be completed in a continuous take and in time with all the others. The final video pulls this off to a tee, each Side remaining in character and in time, with all reactions seeming natural. The fact that this (not quite short) song gets pulled off the way it does shows the effort that goes into these videos.
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-->'''“Logan”:''' ''ENOUGH!'' ''[[SuddenlyShouting ENOUGH!]]'' This isn’t working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
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The Twelve Days of Christmas video had an awesome musical number. I can’t imagine pulling off each of four parts in a single take.
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* Another meta example: the musical number in the Twelve Days of Christmas video—each part having to be completed in a continuous take and in time with all the others. The final video pulls this off to a tee, each Side remaining in character and in time, with all reactions seeming natural. The fact that this (not quite short) song gets pulled off the way it does shows the effort that goes into these videos.
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* In "Accepting Anxiety Part Two" Virgil's reminder to Thomas of what he has learned truly is astounding, helping Thomas combat-Anxiety himself, calming down enough to let ALL the Sides leave.
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--> ''[[Disney/{{Mulan}} You're through. Go home, Princey. Pack it up]].''
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* On a meta-level, the steady increase in episode quality over the course of Season 2. Individual episodes are much more complex than they used to be, not only in the sense of tackling more difficult issues in the arenas of ethics and mental health, but in terms of production values and the use of special effects and commissioned artwork. The trend isn't without its downsides (Main/ScheduleSlip and the difficulty some viewers have in absorbing 40+ minute episodes about such dire topics), but it is impressive to binge-watch the series and see it go from a one-man show with five-minute episodes to the extravaganza it is today.
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'''Deceit:'' I’m happy to oblige.
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* Deceit’s entrance in “Putting Others First” is almost on par with his debut in terms of build up. Patton has pretty much gone into a complete breakdown, going OneWingedAngel and forcing Thomas to hypothetically choose between his life and those of his friends. And that’s when “Logan” finally puts his foot down, revealing his true self and actually ''coming to Thomas’ aid''.
-->'''“Logan”:''' ''ENOUGH!'' This isn’t working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
'''Deceit:'' I’m happy to oblige.
-->'''“Logan”:''' ''ENOUGH!'' This isn’t working. This entire conversation has become so muddled due to misleading misuse of “conscientious” language. (''his voice starts to change as a familiar {{Leitmotif}} begins to play'') You’ll need a sharp side to cut through all this bull… ''frog''. A sort of subterfuge specialist. The Lord of the Lies. (''pulls out a cape and reveals his true form as…'')\\
'''Deceit:'' I’m happy to oblige.
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** Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bit monotone.
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** Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bit monotone.monotone with a hint of "nerd nasal," especially when he starts infodumping.
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The fact that each of these character's voices can be identified even when you're looking away from the video despite all the roles being acted by the same person is ''beyond'' remarkable.
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* While a comedic villain, Deceit has a wonderfully chilling line in "Selfishness v. Selflessness" as he describes what his purpose is and why Thomas needs him. Thomas's delivery of the line makes adds a great sense of menace to the character.
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* While a comedic villain, Deceit has a wonderfully chilling line in "Selfishness v. Selflessness" as he describes what his purpose is and why Thomas needs him. Thomas's delivery of the line makes adds a great sense of menace to the character.
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* Credit to the writing and editing as well. There are a ton of rewatch bonuses to be found just from noting cuts to the different Sides and their reactions to whomever is speaking. Virgil is the best example of this; watch how his expression shifts with Thomas's emotional state and the input from the other Sides, especially when Deceit or Remus turn up.
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** Remus has a high-pitched, off-kilter voice that sounds as demented as he claims himself to be. It is also slightly raspy, similarly to works in which people don't use Hatsune Miku right, making her too high and screechy. All of this fits how he's the subversion of something that should be good.
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** Remus has a high-pitched, off-kilter voice that sounds as demented as he claims himself to be. It is also slightly raspy, similarly to works in which people don't use Hatsune Miku right, making her too high and screechy. All of this fits how he's the subversion of something that should be good.
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** Remus has a high-pitched, off-kilter voice that sounds as demented as he claims himself to be.
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* As revealed in the 4th of July livestream in 2019, Remus was created ''more than two years'' before his debut. The first conversation Thomas and Joan had about Remus was while they were filming ''[[Recap/SandersSidesS1E13GrowingUp Growing Up]]'', which was filmed around April 2017. That's 26 months before the character saw the light of day. Remus was the first of the Dark Sides to be created. Inside the team, he became deeply attached to Joan, as they were the one developing his quirks, rehearsing and rehearsing lines while giving life to the character. Even though Thomas played the first public version of the character, it felt for him like an impression of Joan's Remus and he had a high sense of responsibility to live up to their portrayal of the character.
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*Additionally, every side has very distinct body language. This is especially obvious in how each side takes the stand in “Selfishness v. Selflessness”. Deceit’s every movement is serpentine and smooth, while Logan holds himself tightly, Patton moves with visible glee, Roman telegraphs his movements like he’s on stage, and Virgil routinely slouches. Remus’s own movements are very sharp and jittery, as though he’s making a decision to move just before he does so. It’s very clear to tell who is talking even if their appearances are different than usual.
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* The way Thomas speaks as each Sanders Side is especially worth mentioning. Each Side has his own unique voice. Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bit monotone. Roman speaks with a loud, boasting, dramatic voice befitting of a prince in every way. Patton's voice is bouncy and energetic and cheerful, just listening to him brings a smile to your face. Virgil is low and biting, within the register that makes his voice gravel. And Deceit speaks with a voice that sounds smooth but poisonous, like oil or tar. The fact that each of these character's voices can be identified even when you're looking away from the video despite all the roles being acted by the same person is ''beyond'' remarkable.
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* The way Thomas speaks as each Sanders Side is especially worth mentioning. Each Side has his own unique voice. voice:
** Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bitmonotone. monotone.
** Roman speaks with a loud, boasting, dramatic voice befitting of a prince in everyway. way.
** Patton's voice is bouncy and energetic and cheerful, just listening to him brings a smile to yourface. face.
** Virgil is low and biting, within the register that makes his voicegravel. And gravel.
** Deceit speaks with a voice that sounds smooth but poisonous, like oil ortar. tar.
** Remus has a high-pitched, off-kilter voice that sounds as demented as he claims himself to be.
The fact that each of these character's voices can be identified even when you're looking away from the video despite all the roles being acted by the same person is ''beyond'' remarkable.
** Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bit
** Roman speaks with a loud, boasting, dramatic voice befitting of a prince in every
** Patton's voice is bouncy and energetic and cheerful, just listening to him brings a smile to your
** Virgil is low and biting, within the register that makes his voice
** Deceit speaks with a voice that sounds smooth but poisonous, like oil or
** Remus has a high-pitched, off-kilter voice that sounds as demented as he claims himself to be.
The fact that each of these character's voices can be identified even when you're looking away from the video despite all the roles being acted by the same person is ''beyond'' remarkable.
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* Logan's ability to Main/NoSell Remus's violent acts against him in "Dealing With Intrusive Thoughts."
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'''WARNING''': Untagged '''spoilers''' ahead. Read at your own risk.
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* The way Thomas speaks as each Sanders Side is especially worth mentioning. Each Side has his own unique voice. Logan is clear, eloquent and just a bit monotone. Roman speaks with a loud, boasting, dramatic voice befitting of a prince in every way. Patton's voice is bouncy and energetic and cheerful, just listening to him brings a smile to your face. Virgil is low and biting, within the register that makes his voice gravel. And Deceit speaks with a voice that sounds smooth but poisonous, like oil or tar. The fact that each of these character's voices can be identified even when you're looking away from the video despite all the roles being acted by the same person is ''beyond'' remarkable.
* When you re-watch "Accepting Anxiety" and realize ''Deceit's existence was foreshadowed almost six months in advance''. Just look at the OhCrap look the Sides exchange after Roman suddenly claps a hand over his mouth... an action which, we now realize, probably wasn't of his own volition.
* The rap battle between Roman and Logan. At first it looks like Roman has the victory in his pocket, and then, cue Logan. During the latter's rap, the camera switches to show the expressions of the other Sides from time to time, including Roman, Thomas and Patton staring in confusion at each other before the latter and Virgil join in the fun. It ends with the ''creative'' Side in StunnedSilence. [[https://five-hour-anxiety.tumblr.com/post/170809272033/ladies-lords-and-non-binary-royalty-lets-see-who This]] as well as [[https://ghostilda.tumblr.com/post/172111786445/fandomsandanythingelse-kickthecel this]] shows how many people in the fandom know the words by heart.
--> '''Logan''':
--> ''Stricken with clairvoyancy, [[SeenItAll events occured as I'd foreseen]]''
--> ''Your verse was weak, your rapping stinks, flamboyantly employing these''
--> ''Trisyllabic rhymes, PSSH! I can match that easily.''
--> ''I'll beat you everytime, so you do not want beef with me, Princey...''
--> ''I drown out lesser emcees when I flow, there's no avoiding me...''
--> ''Under pressure I rise up - Holler at your buoyancy!''
--> ''[[RuleOfSymbolism Diadems are worn on capita.]]''
--> ''I had this battle on lock like Attica!''
--> ''[[Disney/{{Mulan}} You're through. Go home, Princey. Pack it up]].''
--> ''I claimed to be the better bard and I backed it up!''
** This becomes AwesomeByAnalysis when you dissect the actual poem.
* In "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2", after one too many OpenMouthInsertFoot comments from Roman to Virgil, Thomas bluntly tells him to shut the hell up. It's one of the only times we've ''ever'' seen Thomas put his foot down with the Sides.
* The entire ending of "Can Lying Be Good?" is awesome. After an entire episode of "Patton" acting weird, he finally lets the mask drop, and Virgil comments he ''knew'' something was up. Logan begins to say something -- and then "Patton" waves his hand and ''[[WhamShot forces Logan to shut up]]''. Suddenly, Roman gets it, too. But Thomas doesn't, and Virgil explains that there are certain aspects of himself he can only know about if he ''wants'' to know. "Patton" taunts him, breaks out a NightmareFace and warns him that Thomas won't like what he finds, but Thomas tells the others to tell him. Logan, now free to speak, screams out, "DECEIT!" And "Patton" vanishes, and the audience is formally introduced to Deceit for the first time. Everything about it, from the build-up, to his snake-like makeup, to the genuine threat he poses, to his creepy musical theme, is ''awesome''.
* From the same episode, Logic's little BattleOfWits with Deceit, best summed up by these two lines.
-->'''Deceit:''' What you don't know can't hurt you.\\
'''Logan:''' ''Falsehood''.
* While a comedic villain, Deceit has a wonderfully chilling line in "Selfishness v. Selflessness" as he describes what his purpose is and why Thomas needs him. Thomas's delivery of the line makes adds a great sense of menace to the character.
-->'''Deceit:''' I don't want Thomas to be disadvantaged in a world where you can die for not following the laws made in the name of a lie.
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* When you re-watch "Accepting Anxiety" and realize ''Deceit's existence was foreshadowed almost six months in advance''. Just look at the OhCrap look the Sides exchange after Roman suddenly claps a hand over his mouth... an action which, we now realize, probably wasn't of his own volition.
* The rap battle between Roman and Logan. At first it looks like Roman has the victory in his pocket, and then, cue Logan. During the latter's rap, the camera switches to show the expressions of the other Sides from time to time, including Roman, Thomas and Patton staring in confusion at each other before the latter and Virgil join in the fun. It ends with the ''creative'' Side in StunnedSilence. [[https://five-hour-anxiety.tumblr.com/post/170809272033/ladies-lords-and-non-binary-royalty-lets-see-who This]] as well as [[https://ghostilda.tumblr.com/post/172111786445/fandomsandanythingelse-kickthecel this]] shows how many people in the fandom know the words by heart.
--> '''Logan''':
--> ''Stricken with clairvoyancy, [[SeenItAll events occured as I'd foreseen]]''
--> ''Your verse was weak, your rapping stinks, flamboyantly employing these''
--> ''Trisyllabic rhymes, PSSH! I can match that easily.''
--> ''I'll beat you everytime, so you do not want beef with me, Princey...''
--> ''I drown out lesser emcees when I flow, there's no avoiding me...''
--> ''Under pressure I rise up - Holler at your buoyancy!''
--> ''[[RuleOfSymbolism Diadems are worn on capita.]]''
--> ''I had this battle on lock like Attica!''
--> ''[[Disney/{{Mulan}} You're through. Go home, Princey. Pack it up]].''
--> ''I claimed to be the better bard and I backed it up!''
** This becomes AwesomeByAnalysis when you dissect the actual poem.
* In "Accepting Anxiety: Part 2", after one too many OpenMouthInsertFoot comments from Roman to Virgil, Thomas bluntly tells him to shut the hell up. It's one of the only times we've ''ever'' seen Thomas put his foot down with the Sides.
* The entire ending of "Can Lying Be Good?" is awesome. After an entire episode of "Patton" acting weird, he finally lets the mask drop, and Virgil comments he ''knew'' something was up. Logan begins to say something -- and then "Patton" waves his hand and ''[[WhamShot forces Logan to shut up]]''. Suddenly, Roman gets it, too. But Thomas doesn't, and Virgil explains that there are certain aspects of himself he can only know about if he ''wants'' to know. "Patton" taunts him, breaks out a NightmareFace and warns him that Thomas won't like what he finds, but Thomas tells the others to tell him. Logan, now free to speak, screams out, "DECEIT!" And "Patton" vanishes, and the audience is formally introduced to Deceit for the first time. Everything about it, from the build-up, to his snake-like makeup, to the genuine threat he poses, to his creepy musical theme, is ''awesome''.
* From the same episode, Logic's little BattleOfWits with Deceit, best summed up by these two lines.
-->'''Deceit:''' What you don't know can't hurt you.\\
'''Logan:''' ''Falsehood''.
* While a comedic villain, Deceit has a wonderfully chilling line in "Selfishness v. Selflessness" as he describes what his purpose is and why Thomas needs him. Thomas's delivery of the line makes adds a great sense of menace to the character.
-->'''Deceit:''' I don't want Thomas to be disadvantaged in a world where you can die for not following the laws made in the name of a lie.
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