History Analysis / MadonnaWhoreComplex

Commonly found in works before the 1960s or so, when people first began to publicly admit -- in large numbers -- just how silly the whole thing was. Remember, according to the Madonna-Whore Complex all women are either promiscuous, immoral (often EvilIsSexy) seductresses or [[TheIngenue sweet, naïve ingenues]] and the elegant (chaste/sex-less) matriarchs they become. 'Good' people who are sexually active do not exist -- or at least, [[DoubleStandard 'Good' females]]. [[ImAManICantHelpIt "Of course" a man will have sex with a few 'Whores' here and there]]. [[DoubleStandard That doesn't make 'them' immoral of course, what a silly question, why did you even ask...?]]

As a consequence, it ended up suggesting that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]] and should be [[CruelAndUnusualDeath disposed of acccordingly]]; some men use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

Commonly found in works before the 1960s or so, when people first began to publicly admit -- in large numbers -- just how silly the whole thing was. Remember, according to the Madonna-Whore Complex all women are either promiscuous, immoral (often EvilIsSexy) seductresses or [[TheIngenue sweet, naive ingenues]] and the elegant (chaste/sex-less) matriarchs they become. 'Good' people who are sexually active do not exist -- or at least, [[DoubleStandard 'Good' females]]. [[ImAManIcantHelpIt "Of course" a man will have sex with a few 'Whores' here and there]]. [[DoubleStandard That doesn't make 'them' immoral of course, what a silly question, why did you even ask...?]]

Many societies past, and some present, have bought into this dichotomy (see AllWomenAreLustful and DefiledForever and HonorRelatedAbuse). The inexorable, albeit flawed, logic of The Complex holds that ''[[FalseDichotomy everyone]]'' can be categorised this way... which is bad for non-'Madonnas', as being a 'Whore' often means that others can basically treat you (as badly) as they like because, hey, 'Whores' are not moral and/or human. Plus, if you're a 'Whore', you chose to be that way, [[InsaneTrollLogic therefore]] whichever other people do to you is your own fault and your just reward. This includes death.

This belief is is first identified by UsefulNotes/SigmundFreud as an inability to integrate sex together with a loving relationship. While some people joked that it comes from MommyIssues, Freud believed it to be the literal case. Specifically, by feeling alienated from his mother, the man would later on look for the woman of his life based on the love he never received from his mother. The man will look for the good and shun the bad aspects of women, and thanks to his upbringing, having a high sexual lifestyle is on the latter.

Many societies past, and some present, have bought into this dichotomy (see AllWomenAreLustful and DefiledForever and HonorRelatedAbuse). The inexorable, albeit flawed, logic of The Complex holds that [[FalseDichotomy ''everyone'' can be categorised this way]]... which is bad for non-'Madonnas', as being a 'Whore' often means that others can basically treat you (as badly) as they like because, hey, 'Whores' are not moral and/or human. Plus, if you're a 'Whore', you chose to be that way, [[InsaneTrollLogic therefore]] whichever other people do to you is your own fault and your just reward. This includes death.

Additionally, the Complex teaches people that 'good/moral' females have no sexual desires, and that 'good/moral' males don't have sex with other people; just impure/immoral/sub-human people. Given that The Complex often goes hand-in-hand with monogamous heterosexual relationships, this often [[InsaneTrollLogic necessitates illicit/secret adultery for everyone to sate their sexual desires as it would be immoral for either spouse to actually want to have sex with the other because they are both 'too good' to indulge such sinful acts]]. Having sex with an immoral/subhuman person is absolutely fine, however, and [[ImAManIcantHelpIt is almost ''expected'' of males in these sex-less relationships]] because AllMenArePerverts. [[FanonDiscontinuity How Madonnas become mothers without the use of in-vitro fertilisation]][[note]] i.e. sex[[/note]] is politely glossed over... [[SubvertedTrope except when]] [[FalseDichotomy it isn't.]]

Commonly found in works before the 1960s or so, when people first began to publicly admit - in large numbers - just how silly the whole thing was. Remember, according to the Madonna-Whore Complex all women are either promiscuous, immoral (often EvilIsSexy) seductresses or [[TheIngenue sweet, naive ingenues]] and the elegant (chaste/sex-less) matriarchs they become. 'Good' people who are sexually active do not exist - or at least, [[DoubleStandard 'Good' females]]. [[ImAManIcantHelpIt "Of course" a man will have sex with a few 'Whores' here and there]]. [[DoubleStandard That doesn't make 'them' immoral of course, what a silly question, why did you even ask...?]]

Commonly found in works before the 1960s or so, when people first began to publicly admit - in large numbers - just how silly the whole thing was. Remember, according to the Madonna-Whore Complex all women are either promiscuous, immoral (often EvilIsSexy) seductresses or [[TheIngenue sweet, naive ingenues]] and the elegant (chaste/sex-less) matriarchs they become. 'Good' people who are sexually active do not exist - or at least, [[DoubleStandard 'Good' females.]] [[ImAManIcantHelpIt "Of course" a man will have sex with a few 'Whores' here and there.]] [[DoubleStandard That doesn't make 'them' immoral of course, what a silly question, why did you even ask...?]]

Many societies past, and some present, have bought into this dichotomy (see AllWomenAreLustful and DefiledForever and HonorRelatedAbuse). The inexorable, albeit flawed, logic of The Complex holds that [[FalseDichotomy ''everyone'' can be categorised this way]]... which is bad for non-'Madonnas' as being a 'Whore' often means that others can basically treat you (as badly) as they like because, hey, 'Whores' are not moral and/or human. Plus, if you're a 'Whore', you chose to be that way [[InsaneTrollLogic therefore]] whichever other people do to you is your own fault and your just reward. This includes death.

Commonly found in works before the 1960s or so, when people first began to publicly admit - in large numbers - just how silly the whole thing was. Remember, according to the Madonna-Whore Complex all women are either promiscuous, immoral (often EvilIsSexy) seductresses or [[TheIngenue sweet, naive ingenues]] and the elegant (chaste/sex-less) matriarchs they become. 'Good' people who are sexually active do not exist - or at least, [[DoubleStandard 'Good' females.]] [[ImAManIcantHelpIt "Of course" a man will have sex with a few 'Whores' here and there.]] [[DoubleStandard That doesn't make 'them' immoral of course, what a silly question, why did you even ask...?]]

This belief is is first identified by Sigmund Freud as an inability to integrate sex together with a loving relationship. Freud believed the split is triggered from a [[FreudianExcuse man's relation to his mother]]. Specifically, by feeling alienated from her, he would later on look for the woman of his life based on the love he never received from his mother. The man will look from the good and shun the bad aspects of women.

This belief is very misogynistic.

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut, and suggests that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]] and should be [[CruelAndUnusualDeath disposed of acccordingly]]; some men use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut, and suggests that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]] and should be [[CruelAndUnusualDeath disposed of acccordingly]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

Needless to say, The Complex is very silly. More than that, it's also bad for people; it teaches people that 'good/moral/human' females have no sexual desires, and that 'good/moral' males don't have sex with other people; just impure/immoral/sub-human people. Given that The Complex often goes hand-in-hand with monogamous heterosexual relationships, this often [[InsaneTrollLogic necessitates illicit/secret adultery for everyone to sate their sexual desires as it would be immoral for either spouse to actually want to have sex with the other because they are both 'too good' to indulge such sinful acts]]. Having sex with an immoral/subhuman person is absolutely fine, however, and [[ImAManIcantHelpIt is almost ''expected'' of males in these sex-less relationships]] because AllMenArePerverts. [[FanonDiscontinuity How Madonnas become mothers without the use of in-vitro fertilisation]][[note]] i.e. sex[[/note]] is politely glossed over... [[SubvertedTrope except when]] [[FalseDichotomy it isn't.]]

Many societies past, and some present, have bought into this dichotomy (see AllWomenAreLustful and DefiledForever and HonorRelatedAbuse). The inexorable, albeit flawed, logic of The Complex holds that [[FalseDichotomy ''everyone'' can be categorised this way]]... which is bad for non-'Madonnas' as being a 'Whore' often means that others can basically treat you (as badly) as they like because, hey, 'Whores' are not moral and/or human.

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut, and suggests that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

Needless to say, The Complex is very silly. More than that, it's also bad for people; it teaches people that 'good/moral/human' females have no sexual desires, and that 'good/moral' males don't have sex with other people; just impure/immoral/sub-human people. Given that The Complex often goes hand-in-hand with monogamous heterosexual relationships, this often [[InsaneTrollLogic necessitates illicit/secret adultery for everyone to sate their sexual desires as it would be immoral for either spouse to actually want to have sex with the other because they are both 'too good' to indulge such sinful acts]]. Having sex with an immoral/subhuman person is absolutely fine, however, and [[ImAManIcantHelpIt is almost ''expected'' of males in these sex-less relationships]] because AllMenArePerverts. [[FanonDiscontinuity How Madonnas become mothers without the use of in-vitro fertilisation]][[hottip:*: i.e. sex]] is politely glossed over... [[SubvertedTrope except when]] [[FalseDichotomy it isn't.]]

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only chaste girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.

It stems from MyGirlIsNotASlut (and very possibly MommyIssues), and suggests that only "good" girls have a chance at happiness; women who don't fit this mold are just [[DefiledForever trash]]; [[HeteronormativeCrusader some men]] use this as justification for rape and HonorRelatedAbuse. It also neglects the sexual needs of the "good" women, and relegates those of the men to [[SexIsEvilAndIAmHorny being fulfilled by illicit relationships.]] It could also involve creepy obsession, and LovingAShadow, an idealistic fantasy, rather than a real person.