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fearlessnikki Since: Feb, 2015
Mar 1st 2021 at 5:53:58 AM •••

A potential addition.

  • Don't Shoot the Message: A part of the reason the books became so popular, even as guilty pleasures, were that they were explicitly mainstream erotica for women - acknowledging that females could explore their sexuality too. Of course the questionable portrayal of BDSM, and the abusive undertones to Ana and Christian's relationship still stand.

bdacosta2 Since: Oct, 2012
Jun 29th 2019 at 8:28:06 AM •••

Now that the Internet Backdraft trope is considered Flame Bait, it should be removed from this page. The rest of the website is doing the same thing.

shatterstar Since: Apr, 2015
Oct 26th 2017 at 1:05:23 AM •••

Since the page is locked, I'd like to expand a few entries into the page:

  • Awesome Music: "Love Me Like You Do", sang by Ellie Goulding. The song is universally acclaimed and agreed to be much sexier than the actual movie thanks to the writing and Goulding's performance.
  • Tough Act to Follow: Every songs in the sequels will have to live up to "Love Me Like You Do", as evidence by the significantly less successful sales of "I Don't Want To Live Forever".

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
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Apr 5th 2017 at 1:33:18 AM •••

I wish this could be edited. The "Ask E.L. James" burns were hilarious.

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DoctorSleep Since: Nov, 2013
Feb 20th 2017 at 2:24:29 AM •••

Hilarious in Hindsight: It was always debatable if Christian's tastes are as "singular" as he claims, considering that even before the Internet BDSM was one of the most common kinks around. Now, when the Fifty Shades books have sold millions and millions of copies and have legions of fans eager to try the stuff in the book, Christian might as well have the Dark Secret that he likes watching porn movies.

Isn't this technically Seinfeld Is Unfunny?

tvtropesruinedmylife22 Since: Sep, 2015
Jan 20th 2017 at 8:58:54 PM •••

There's a typo in the Nightmare Fuel section of the YMMV section. "the a relationship to aspire to"

igordebraga Since: Jan, 2001
Mar 2nd 2016 at 2:14:34 PM •••

Can a moderator please add Snark Bait to this page, given the book really broke out because people wanted to see how bad it was?

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:42:49 AM •••

... well, that's simply not true. It broke out because people unironically wanted to read it and wanted tanging off material.

I mean, Snark Bait can still apply, but that's grossly overstating it.

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Rhysdux Since: Jan, 2001
Aug 11th 2015 at 9:26:46 PM •••

For Author Avatar on the YMMV page: James's initials are indeed E.L., but it's really surprising how many names beginning with or containing E.L. exist in this series:

  • Ella, Christian's birth mother.
  • Elliot Grey, Christian's adopted older brother.
  • Elena Lincoln, Christian's statutory rapist and the person who first exposed him to BDSM.
  • Also, Elena's initials, like James's, are E.L.
  • The name of Leila, Christian's Broken Bird Psycho Ex-Girlfriend, is basically "Ella" with an "I" added.

WanderingBrowser Since: Jan, 2001
Jul 8th 2015 at 3:51:32 PM •••

Just an observation, but, most real world practitioners of BDSM actively hate this book, since a healthy BDSM relationship is Safe, Sane, and Consensual and the depiction of BDSM in this series pretty much hits every aspect of Bondage Is Bad aside from the fact it's depicting what's going on as a positive, Fetish Fuel activity. So, perhaps an expansion to Internet Backdraft and/or Unfortunate Implications is valid?

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 9th 2015 at 1:37:51 AM •••

That does not appear to qualify for either trope, and the citation for UI is missing. So, I think not.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Blazer Since: Mar, 2012
Feb 16th 2015 at 9:21:03 PM •••

I do believe we should put in Critical Dissonance into the page concerning the movie as, despite the fact that it made nearly $250 million worldwide, critics tore the living hell out of this movie.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Feb 16th 2015 at 11:27:02 PM •••

Edit requests go here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KevinKlawitter Kevin Klawitter Since: Oct, 2010
Kevin Klawitter
Sep 2nd 2013 at 11:54:47 AM •••

Since this page is locked, the discussion part is the best place to put this. I feel this should be added to the page, under Unfortunate Implications. It's an article detailing how, despite Anastasia's state age being 21, the book is actually about pedophilia:

http://theulstermanreport.com/2012/08/16/50-shades-of-grey-pedophilia-hiding-in-plain-sight-letter-from-a-reader/

Based on that and other articles, this is not an uncommon belief. Such things cited include the fact that Anastasia has zero sexual experience, including masturbation, that she is described as wearing pigtails, speaks about childish subjects such as cartwheels and skipping, and is told by Christian Grey (her abuser, if you take this theory) what to wear, what to eat, and how to speak.

I think it's very interesting, and worth adding to the page.

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MrThorfan64 Since: Oct, 2015
Feb 12th 2015 at 10:37:17 AM •••

Should Designated Hero go here? On the Designated Hero page there is a piece arguing why Christian Grey is one.

LordAaronus Since: Dec, 2009
Jul 25th 2014 at 8:56:46 PM •••

Now that the trailer is out, I motion that we put the Crazy in Love redux as Crowning Music Of Awesome. It just grabs you.

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SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Jul 26th 2014 at 2:48:52 AM •••

Sure, although you'll need to write up a more detailed example, and then ask for it to be added here.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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