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afliador8 Since: Sep, 2015
Oct 6th 2017 at 4:38:10 PM •••

Is it time that we divide the main page into different pages (A-D, etc)? I checked, and the main page has over 27,000 words!! The Justice League page isn't this big.

CelPrevXXVI Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius Since: Apr, 2013
Adm. Meijin Kawaguchi XXVI, KCMP, Ordo Gundarius
Mar 8th 2014 at 4:37:11 AM •••

Guys, just a few developments:

- Already made a Fanfic Recommendations page for TWGOK, so you're all free to suggest there; and

- Might I suggest that we combine both Nikaido's and Dokurou's entries in the Characters pages? As of FLAG 250 onward, the latter's identity has already been confirmed to be the former's.

Edited by 121.54.32.141 Sed regresso retributio. Carpe Diem. Deus lo Vult...
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
Oct 7th 2013 at 1:24:00 PM •••

Commented out the comparison to Its Not My Fault I'm Not Popular or whatever. Instead of continuing to add and remove it, can we establish whether or not it's even that similar?

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Tropesofknowledge Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 7th 2013 at 2:53:39 PM •••

I've read both and can say that yes, they are similar in the way that "INMFINP" is a Distaff Counter Part with some Reality Ensues version of TWGOK.

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Clarste Since: Jun, 2009
Oct 7th 2013 at 3:08:15 PM •••

Considering that you're the only person adding it back, yes I would assume that you think that.

Now, obviously there are some connections you could theoretically make, in terms of the characters being social outcasts who play video games, but that's a pretty basic archetype. Why aren't we comparing this to, say, Welcome to the NHK? By inviting the readers to compare them, we (this is important, everything on the page is a "we") are claiming that these two works are uniquely similar and that's a damned heavy burden.

We've had two people remove it separately, and one add it back twice.

Tropesofknowledge Since: Oct, 2009
Oct 7th 2013 at 3:31:02 PM •••

This question has been up for maybe an hour, so saying I am the only one who supports it is kinda not called for.

I was not the person to first add this to the page so it is "two people add it and two people remove". I have explained why the above work can be compared to TWGOK and it's not just the fact that a social outcast is present is both, the heroine is known for her talent with Otome games much like Keima is with Galge (pretty uncommon similarity, I think). I simply enjoy it when you can have interconnectivity between works on this wiki. If the concensus is not with me, I will gladly concede, but let's give it some time. That's all I wanted to say.

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Clarste Since: Jun, 2009
Oct 7th 2013 at 3:46:57 PM •••

It takes a bit more "boldness" to make a change to the page than it does to simply add something, and the person who added it in the first place may not even have this on their watchlist. So I don't think it's quite the same thing.

That said, three people is certainly not enough to say anything about the wiki as a whole, but I still just think that mere similarities are not enough to force us to invite comparison. They would have to be directly commenting on each other's themes or whatever. Honestly, I can't think of a single other work page where I think inviting a comparison would be appropriate. Basically by doing so so you're saying "your experience with this show will not be complete without viewing this other show" which seems absurd to me.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
Oct 7th 2013 at 5:38:16 PM •••

You keep bringing up how this is like the other thing because both characters play galge only reality ensues for whatserface... except that's not really the point of TWGOK. Yes, Keima plays a lot of dating sims, but not when we're watching. The story is mostly making fun of the cliches of both dating sims and anime, not about how Keima deals with stuff socially. Yes, that kinda stuff happens sometimes, but it's not really the point. Hell, post genre shift, the story isn't even about that anymore.

So from what you're saying, the comparison sounds really superficial. And honestly? I've already considered removing it before, so that's another person who doesn't think it belongs.

Jigaboo [[pink: pink]] Since: Jun, 2011
[[pink: pink]]
Sep 4th 2011 at 9:35:45 AM •••

Does anyone know what song was playing in the trailer of TWGOK where Keima kisses, I don't know 6 girls? This one

On another note, who watched this trailer first and instantly fell in love with the show?

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Sidapa Since: Nov, 2013
Jan 13th 2013 at 7:22:57 AM •••

Not 100% sure, but it could be Love ~ The Distance Until the Kiss [Main Theme] (恋~口づけまでの距離 [メインテーマ]), named and heard from the The World God Only Knows Original Soundtrack.

CelPrevXXVI Since: Apr, 2013
Jul 15th 2013 at 6:04:44 PM •••

I confirmed it; checked vgmdb.net's page on the soundtrack.

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Tropesofknowledge The Man with the Golden Gun Since: Oct, 2009
The Man with the Golden Gun
Mar 27th 2013 at 1:53:24 AM •••

Does anyone else think this (bottom left panel) looks like Black Face? Just wanted a second opinion before listing it as a trope.

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Thecommander236 Since: Aug, 2011
Mar 27th 2013 at 1:52:21 PM •••

I don't know. The Japanese did invent Jinx...

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isoycrazy Lord of the Blue Star Since: May, 2011
Lord of the Blue Star
Mar 22nd 2013 at 5:17:08 AM •••

Should the links to redhawk's pages of the chapters be removed as well?

Sidapa Since: Nov, 2013
Jan 26th 2013 at 6:21:19 PM •••

I'm thinking of adding a Timeline page for this series to help keep track of the events. Should I or not.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Jan 26th 2013 at 6:36:51 PM •••

Go right ahead. Timelines are a bit of a new thing though, so I'm not quite sure how to really go about formatting it and all that. Hopefully you have an idea in mind.

sbluen Since: Feb, 2010
Jan 11th 2011 at 11:35:21 PM •••

I'm tempted to add [[Mate or Die]] to the list of tropes, even though the main character only needs to capture the hearts in this series. Any suggestions about this idea are welcome.

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Beyondnor Since: Dec, 1969
Jan 12th 2011 at 12:11:10 AM •••

It is close. It's more along the lines of "Make them Swoon or Die"...I dunno. Good call though.

Gorkamorka Since: Apr, 2009
Feb 8th 2011 at 7:08:39 AM •••

good call, I second inclusion, maybe write it as "kiss or die"

sbluen Since: Feb, 2010
Feb 11th 2011 at 9:06:49 PM •••

Yeah, it's about as close as you can get though without being recommended for mature audiences only.

Sidapa Since: Nov, 2013
Mar 29th 2012 at 8:23:19 AM •••

Does Keima, also known as the God of Conquest, on a white horse count as a Visual Pun or a Shout-Out to Conquest the first of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
Jan 13th 2013 at 7:51:46 AM •••

Hilarious as that would be, I doubt it. The Horsemen aren't a big thing in Japan, and Conquest is nearly forgotten even in Christian countries. We'd need Word of God for something that subtle.

Jimshorts Since: May, 2011
Jun 27th 2011 at 8:55:21 PM •••

Hey a new person to discussions on tvtropes, but after nearly catching up to date with the series, I feel (YMMW) that Katsuragi deserves some ranking as an Anti hero, perhaps around a III on the https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SlidingScaleOfAntiheroes

While before he's just doing this to get back to his "normal" life it certainly has a feel that he's truly a ruthless anti hero in his methods, but doing it for the right reasons.

  • Spoiler warning?**

Especially after seeing his reaction to what happened to Kanon in the latest arc.

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Elshastara Since: Mar, 2011
May 15th 2011 at 6:46:20 AM •••

Hey, can we pick out a new page picture? I found one online that's basically a colored-in version of the current one from the anime. It might be too big, though.

Gorkamorka Since: Apr, 2009
Feb 8th 2011 at 7:07:19 AM •••

Love Triangle needs serious cleaning up. Anyone against it? We could leave the very first part and the mention to Elsee (she is the co-protagonist after all) and direct to the Two-Person Love Triangle entry and/or the characters page

EHK Since: Mar, 2010
Nov 15th 2010 at 4:22:44 PM •••

He uses Offscreen Teleportation to become The Thing That Would Not Leave in a sense.

The Cat Came Back is when someone cannot shake someone who is following them. Keima won't leave her house, but he is not following her.

A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
EHK Since: Mar, 2010
Nov 15th 2010 at 4:22:44 PM •••

He uses Offscreen Teleportation to become The Thing That Would Not Leave in a sense.

The Cat Came Back is when someone cannot shake someone who is following them. Keima won't leave her house, but he is not following her.

A friend is someone you trust to help you move. A best friend is someone you trust to hide the body.
BishojoMeister Since: Jun, 2009
Mar 20th 2010 at 8:18:58 PM •••

If you changed it to the official English title of the series, why not also correct the Japanese title? Can this be done?

And why not correct the character sheet as well?

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OrangeAipom Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 7th 2010 at 1:01:21 PM •••

HOW THE HELL DO YOU SPELL HER NAME?

Crunchyroll says Elsie is her short name. Elsea is pronounced the same way as Elsie except with another "a" sound, but as far as I know, it's only used with the rest of her name. I'll change all of them, but I'd like to know where "Elsee" comes from.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
Nov 7th 2010 at 1:36:12 PM •••

Scanlations of the manga have spelled it "Elsee" before the anime premiered. Courtesy link.

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OrangeAipom Since: Jan, 2001
Nov 9th 2010 at 1:44:42 AM •••

Oh. I thought the manga had the "real name" spelled out in French or whatever. That's all.

Customer Since: Sep, 2009
Nov 9th 2010 at 6:29:53 AM •••

Personally, it really doesn't matter how her name is spelled as long as the pronunciation's the same.

However, most people who are editing are going by the manga and the anime sub(s) spelling, "Elsee" or "Elsea" should be fine (her character sheet mentions both, with "Elsea" being the primary name and "Elsee" being the "also known as/nickname", so we should at least match the sheet).

Edit: The latest scanlation has a translator note that says the confirmed spelling is "Elsie", the same as Crunchyroll's subs, so let's go with that.

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Gorkamorka Since: Apr, 2009
Mar 26th 2010 at 3:57:18 PM •••

Someone with access to the raws, and good eyesight (I do so hate some raws out there, after two pages or so all I see are little spiky blobs instead of kanji), could please check out what does keima-in-yui exactly says just before his/her Heroic BSoD? boku or atashi instead of the usual ore?

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BishojoMeister Since: Jun, 2009
Mar 27th 2010 at 10:23:44 AM •••

So it would be the last panel on chapter 85, page 13?

In that case, Kei!Yui's sentence does not include a pronoun in the original text. By the way, Keima usual personal pronoun has been "boku", not "ore", since the first chapter. And the only instance Kei!Yui applies a different pronoun is on chapter 88, page 14, panel 2, where he uses "watashi" for "My prince".

Hope that helps.

Gorkamorka Since: Apr, 2009
Mar 27th 2010 at 10:30:52 AM •••

eh, I trusted the scanlators on the boku/ore thing...

the page I was mentioning is this: http://www.mangafox.com/manga/the_world_god_only_knows/v10/c086/12.html , I do not get what's (s)he's actually saying.

btw: yes, you're mightly helpful as usual BM ;)

BishojoMeister Since: Jun, 2009
Mar 27th 2010 at 2:18:35 PM •••

Ah, in that situation, Kei!Yui still uses the masucline pronoun "boku", however the affix "deyo" at the end of the sentence is regarded as being feminine, thus renders Keima as such.

Here's a different version of chapter 86 by hnks: http://www.mediafire.com/?4yzmg4ayxzt

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