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Jun 24th 2022 at 4:41:50 AM •••

I removed the following paragraph (which according to the edit history was added roughly two years ago) from the entry on homosexuals:

Within the LGBT community itself, cisgender gay men are often still an acceptable target. They get additional acceptable-target points for being each of the following: white, well off financially, masculine-looking and -acting, and of political persuasions outside of the LGBT norm.

This feels a tad silly. There's debates in the LGBTQ+ community about intersectionality with identities, but this doesn't mean that a cisgender white gay man fits this trope because he's criticised for something other than being gay. It comes across as very "reverse racism", so I've removed it pending further discussion.

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meitah Dark Something of All Since: Feb, 2011
Dark Something of All
Jun 10th 2013 at 8:24:24 AM •••

What about the Rroma? Hungary may be getting ready to do them some serious evil, but shouldn't they get some discussion here?

arrgh Since: Feb, 2013
May 11th 2013 at 3:20:23 PM •••

What's with the current page image? The one on the left is a black dude, but the one on the right just seems to be a generic clown or something. Am I missing that it's really supposed to be a gay guy or something? And if it really is a clown, I would argue that we can find a better page image.

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Telcontar MOD Since: Feb, 2012
May 12th 2013 at 2:30:45 AM •••

I think that the black dude is supposed to now trigger a "wait, we're supposed to throw stuff at him just because he's black? that's awful" reaction. The other guy as a clown is still an acceptable target, but shows that they were once considered equal.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
May 12th 2013 at 7:18:25 AM •••

Once black people stopped being an acceptable target, the toy got Bowdlerized into a clown.

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arrgh Since: Feb, 2013
May 17th 2013 at 12:06:52 PM •••

Larkmarn, this is a picture of two separate toys; it is a single item. If you look, the title is 'Twin Targets'.

arrgh Since: Feb, 2013
May 22nd 2013 at 1:22:05 AM •••

DAMN. I mean "this is NOT a picture of two separate toys".

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010
May 22nd 2013 at 6:25:13 AM •••

Huh, interesting. I guess my mind just assumed since it made a lot more sense.

Well, I defer to Telcontar... it still works since the clown is still an acceptable target, and it shows that the black person was as well.

Thanks for clarifying that for me. Man, I've been looking at it for years.

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jatay3 Since: Oct, 2010
Oct 10th 2012 at 9:31:19 AM •••

I presume the entry that says bastards could not legally own property in Elizabethan times means bastards could not legitimately own real estate or perhaps could not inherit lest some fool cut out his firstborn son and dump everything on someone no one ever heard of. Is someone actually claiming that they could not own personal effects? If so it would be nice to have source material.

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fifthfiend Since: Jun, 2010
Jan 26th 2011 at 1:49:44 AM •••

Many of these do seem less like "unacceptable targets" and more like "we'd like these to be unacceptable targets even though they still unfortunately are." Many of these groups at best have had the form of targeting changed or watered down but it's certainly still out there and generally given a pass by society.

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Mercy Since: Jan, 2001
Jan 26th 2011 at 2:26:08 PM •••

Exactly. I think the Once Acceptable Targets page is pretty much a waste of space.

VienLa Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 9th 2012 at 12:21:01 PM •••

I believe it's not meant to be unacceptable targets by society, but by media. And is unacceptable in media mainly beacuse it happens outside it.

Personally, I think that this article is useful for a few reasons.

StopMentioningYourself NerdsAreSexy.. sometimes Since: Jul, 2012
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Aug 13th 2012 at 3:02:36 PM •••

While it's obvious that women were once acceptable targets, the write-up doesn't reflect that; it just lists examples of every time a mythological woman is ever portrayed as doing something wrong. Nothing to imply that it's a reflection on all women ever.

And besides, the implication is that portraying a woman as doing something dangerous is inherently sexist.

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VienLa Since: Jan, 2015
Sep 9th 2012 at 12:14:13 PM •••

Indeed. Comment about women just handpicks few examples that happen to be easily interpretable as evil. Both bible and greek mythology have many examples of both good, exemplar women and vile men. Thus written reasoning is not really substantive.

94.210.249.197 Since: Dec, 1969
Apr 1st 2010 at 2:42:00 PM •••

Allesindesoep: Once acceptable, always acceptable. I don't think there are any targets in here that you can't find in the acceptable targets groups, with perhaps the exception of blacks.

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soojinyeh Since: Aug, 2009
Aug 1st 2010 at 3:17:57 PM •••

I disagree, I think it should change, and probably someday will.

Mercy Since: Jan, 2001
Dec 12th 2010 at 2:19:52 AM •••

On the whole, I think this page should be deleted. Every example of a Once Acceptable Target listed is essentially Still An Acceptable Target.

There's an entry for "Self Hating Americans", for goodness sake! The entry negates itself...

Twentington Since: Apr, 2009
Nov 26th 2010 at 7:27:47 PM •••

Removed natter. Saved here in case it's Troper Tales material:

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