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, started by Freshmeat on Feb 16th 2016 at 11:00:28 AM
With Magnum Opus now changed to IUEO, it pretty much renders this trope moot, so it may as well be cutlisted.
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What is IUEO?
Anyway, this trope is very specific to creator's opinions. And well documented, so no reason to do so in my view.
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Okay...Magnum Opus Dissonance should go in Trivia pages anyway. Since it's a flipside to Creator Backlash.
I am amazed that Magnum Opus became In-Universive though...wish I could have been part of that discussion.
I remember an entire page of the multiple possible causes for this (at one point, a WMG page; at another, an Analysis), but I can't find any mention of why it was completely deleted. Any reason? If not, would starting a new one violate any rules?
In any case, the "explanation" given at the beginning of the page is just a theory and ought to be deleted, given that even series' pages and episode recaps are forbidden from directly giving opinions; there are just WAY too many possible causes to list them all on the main page.
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An Analysis page would be the right place.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Removed this:
- Final Fantasy would have been the last game Squaresoft (Square Enix since 2003) made, if it didn't sell very well. Fortunately for the company, it became the long-running Final Fantasy franchise.
In order for this to be an example, it needs to be contrasted with some of Square's earlier works that the development team loved more. IX is a valid example, however.
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Agree with the removal. It's more of an example of Artifact Title than anything. ;-)
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It turns out there's an entire group of this on fimfiction. Should it be added on top of the ones there already, or just replace them instead?
It's super effective.
Removed from Matt Groening's section, as I'm not sure what point it's trying to make (according to the example, his Opus is Life On Hell). Also, does it mean he considers Futurama his magnum opus, or Simpsons and Futurama fans say so?
- On the other hand, he later basically disowned The Simpsons and his other work, Futurama, is more commonly considered his Magnum Opus now.
Would it be accurate to nominate Sucker Punch for Zack Snyder? He certaintly put all of his heart into it, and it was decidely ill-recieved, but I'm not sure any of his movies were well-reciecved enough for it to count?
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What about the Watchmen film beyond dropping the squid it was pretty well recived
The smartest idiot you will ever meet.
On some of the removed examples:
- Pocahontas vs. The Lion King, anyone?
Who considers Pocahontas a masterwork, anyway?
- Enders Game is considered Orson Scott Card's magnum opus, but it's known he only wrote it as a prologue to the much less successful Speaker for the Dead and its sequels.
This isn't really true. Card's prologue to Speaker explains he originally had no intention of writing a sequel to Ender's Game, and that Ender wasn't supposed to be in Speaker for the Dead as he first conceived it. Besides, I don't believe people think of a "magnum opus" as a non-Door Stopper novel minus its sequels.
- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle famously hated Sherlock Holmes and was much more proud of his historical novels.
Which one?
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Was there anything wrong with my Alec Guinness example?
See you in the discussion pages.
Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Not Tropeworthy
, started by Eddy1215 on Jan 27th 2016 at 11:20:22 PM
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman