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07:30:01 PM May 28th 2013
There are a lot of examples given that aren't Darker and Edgier, they're just Dark and Edgy. Dollhouse is mentioned as being Darker than Joss Whedon's other work. Ok, so what? People do different tone work. But this trope should be (or seems to be anyway) used for a change occurring in a work itself, or in remakes/reboots. Comparisons between completely separate works shouldn't be included.
benjpalmer
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02:42:20 AM Feb 8th 2012
Why is the "Comic Books" section mostly made of Gamer examples?
Spinosegnosaurus77
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12:28:27 PM Aug 1st 2011
Could we get a Canon page image here, please?
Kingcobrasaurus
04:44:15 PM Sep 21st 2011
Agreed!
Pichukun
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11:57:44 AM Jul 12th 2011
Real Life..

What exactly is a Real Life example?
Kingcobrasaurus
08:34:41 PM Jul 30th 2011
An example that occurs in reality, outside of fiction. And Real Life examples are not allowed here unfortunately.
Pichukun
10:59:04 PM Sep 3rd 2011
I mean how would a Real Life example occur in Darker and Edgier?
Kingcobrasaurus
04:43:45 PM Sep 21st 2011
The world got Darker and Edgier during the times of World War One and World War II, then it got Lighter and Softer for a bit before becoming Darker and Edgier during the Cold War. Now, it's Lighter and Softer, though it's gotten slightly Darker and Edgier with the war and 9/11 and everything.
Kingcobrasaurus
08:02:30 PM Sep 21st 2011
edited by Kingcobrasaurus
It was also Darker and Edgier during the dinosaur age, because the world was filled with vicious sharp-toothed predators out to kill you. After they went extinct, it got Lighter and Softer because the world was then populated by cute furry creatures.

In any case, I can't understand why Real Life examples aren't allowed. Anyone can agree that the world got Darker and Edgier during the World Wars. And during the Dark Ages.
Gatordragon24
07:21:34 PM Oct 4th 2012
If Real Life examples were allowed it would potentially start a flame war. If you want to talk about how dark the world is/was, Take It to the Forums.
MasterHand
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04:34:57 PM Sep 25th 2010
I believe that we should make Grimdark redirect to Tastes Like Dirt instead of to here. Does anyone know how to do that?
GoldenAlex
02:22:46 AM Jan 19th 2011
Are you crazy?
MasterHand
01:06:32 PM Feb 12th 2011
...how so?
DeathCloud
01:26:20 PM Mar 10th 2011
We should rename that trope into Grimdark
VeryMelon
12:42:03 PM Nov 23rd 2011
I agree with Death Cloud, that sounds much better.
PsycheFederation
05:40:00 AM Jan 20th 2012
edited by PsycheFederation
I agree with Master Hand. As the Tasted Like Dirt entry says, "Darker and Edgier is relative; i.e., in comparison to an earlier work in the franchise, this work is a lot edgier. This is an absolute trope: all examples are Grim Dark from beginning to end."
24.235.206.209
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01:38:54 PM May 23rd 2010
edited by 24.235.206.209
Either someone needs to change this so it's more neutral in tone, or it needs to be split into Darker And Better and Darker And Worse, since as it stands, the article is entirly in the "Darker And Worse" category. Remember people TROPES ARE NOT BAD! There are lots of examples of works that are made better with this treatment. This article is far too one-sided.
SomeGuy
07:24:26 PM May 23rd 2010
edited by SomeGuy
A reasonable complaint. I rewrote the article and cut a bunch of the examples. From this point onwards, feel free to nuke anything that reeks of complaining about shows for being too dark and edgy.
Dab
08:57:52 AM Jun 11th 2010
edited by Dab
I liked the whole "grimdark grimdark grimdark" title blurb. Motion to put it back. Just because there's some good reason why the trope doesn't deserve how much it does get made fun of, this still doesn't overrule the Rule of Funny.
TheKeeperofJustice
03:50:08 PM Apr 17th 2013
I dunno. I think the Bum review quote works well, too.
Thecommander236
07:37:22 PM Apr 17th 2013
Those posts are almost 3 years old.
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