"The Vamp: Fanny Dashwood. The woman is a work of art. She talks her husband out of fulfilling his father's Last Request to Take Care of the Kids. Then she treats them with all sorts of coldness and contempt because they're living in what is now her house. Then she resents them for taking their own staff with them when they move out. She even resents the fact that they take their own belongings with them!"
How does this fit The Vamp? Fanny is never even played by an attractive actress?
re: potholing the It's All About Me example to Status Quo Is God
Status Quo Is God is about how, in a series, no significant changes ever happen (or if they do happen, don't last) so that the series premise can stay the same from episode to episode.
Sense and Sensibility is not a series. It's a single work, in which significant changes occur between the beginning and the end, and there are no Snap Backs or Reset Buttons, because there is no series premise that needs to be preserved.
I honestly cannot see how anybody could consider Sense and Sensibility an example of Status Quo Is God, let alone a "perfect example".
Hide / Show RepliesStatus Quo Is God is about a series, and Sense and Sensibility is not a series? That was your objection? It doesn't need to be a series. Status Quo Is God has an example section full of examples from film, literature and other media.
It's not really an issue to me, so we'll keep it that way if you prefer. But at least read the pages you're objecting to before you edit them out.
The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them.Examples from film series, like Star Trek and Godzilla, and literary series, like The Wheel of Time and the Red Dwarf novels.
I have read the trope page. I'm really beginning to wonder if you have.
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Having read the definition of DLI, I disagree that it is an example of the trope.
From the definition:
Elinor and Edward's relationship is not overt because there are other tropes at play: Twice Shy, The Quiet One, Master of the Mixed Message etc.
They get to know each other on-screen, and some of their interaction is shown. Elinor talks about him with her family. It does manifest, but it is very subtle at the beginning of the story.
This doesn't fit at all. They are more an example of Birds of a Feather. Two people who met, were at each other's company and hit it off. He was the only single guy at the scene at that moment, but Elinor was not the only single gal.
This could fit. The author wanted to have a romantic plot in her book. It's Jane Austen after all.
Oh, they do. Others say a lot about them. Her family is pleased, his family is horrified and try to deny any attachment, and because of that, her family is insulted.
They are both perfectly rounded characters, and both are worthy, kind people. Nothing too wonderful they fell in love.
They are even not officially together, not when they first meet, not when he visits them at their new home, not when they meet again in London. They have not even told each other anout their feelings. They just both suffer in silence.
Marianne actually wonders if Edward is good enough for her sister and she is sorry he's not more striking, but it's because she loves and admires her sister so very much, and her taste in men is obviously different. Notably, she likes Edward too and appreciates his good qualities.
There is lots of logic in the relationship. Some people support their mutual attachment (Elinor's mother and sisters, because Marry for Love is a good thing for them) and Mrs Jennings (she may appear like the silly matchmaker, true). On the other hand, some poeple oppose the relationship (his greedy sister and his Rich Bitch mother as they want him to marry someone rich and blue blood if possible).
Jane Austen is quite the expert in writing romance. Granted, S&S is an early novel, but the romance is actually very believable and feels real.
No random explosions in this lovely book. :-) Though I might acknowledge that Elinor and Edward do not change much throughout the book because both are mature enough at the beginning.
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