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07:04:12 AM May 3rd 2018
Anybody know why the Genre Roulette entry was deleted? The troper who deleted it gave no reason for doing so.
09:38:48 AM May 3rd 2018
Presumably they just disagreed with the entry. That big an entry shouldn't have been deleted with no reason.
10:00:15 AM May 3rd 2018
This is the second time he's done so, so it counts as an edit war and I've reported it to Ask The Tropers.
01:58:54 PM Mar 17th 2018
(Was I supposed to start here? I was supposed to start here wasn't I?)

The current picture for the page feels REALLY outdated. For starters it's got Pietro in the Avengers (despite the fact that he dies in Ao U but leaves out the Vision and War Machine, both of whom are currently in the Avengers. It's also missing a huge number of important characters (In addition to the characters already listed in the photo's caption and two I mentioned here, it leaves out Bucky Barnes, Falcon, Nick Fury, the Punisher, the Wasp, Cloak and Dagger...) Obviously finding a photo that has ALL these characters in it probably isn't feasible, but I feel like there has to be something out there that better captures the scope of the MCU.
04:08:16 PM Jan 8th 2018
So, in these movies, are the actors ever wearing actual superhero suits, or is it all CGI? Like, I’m not asking “do they make a literal iron man suit for the movies”, obviously. I just want to know if, say, Chris Hemsworth or Chadwick Boseman was actually wearing his costume on set, or it was CGI’d onto him.
04:43:55 PM Jan 8th 2018
edited by Hjortron18
Mostly yes, they're real costumes; but sometimes no. Depends on the costume. I know that Chris Hemsworth's was real, but Cate Blanchett's was partly CGI. You'll probably have to research it for every costume to find out.
04:33:38 PM May 4th 2018
Short answer: The first one. Sometimes they're real.

Long answer: It's varies a TON. Tom Holland has worn real versions of the "hoodie" & "Karen" Spidey suits, but the "Iron Spider" suit is entirely CGI.
05:41:33 AM May 22nd 2017
Has Misty Knight ever got into some actual fight, to deserve being listed as an Action Girl? I have seen the first half of the Like Cage series, and all she ever does is to talk here and there, search for criminals, and arrive right after the fights of Luke and said criminals have concluded. Unless things changed in the second half, this sounds more like Police Are Useless in general and Faux Action Girl in particular.
12:18:08 PM Jul 6th 2017
Things changed in the second half.
07:29:35 AM May 17th 2017
Mordo in Dr. Strange and Davos in Iron Fist are introduced as friends, and turn into villains later. But Mordo does so in the same film, and Davos in the same Netflix season (which is provided in its whole from the start). Do they count as Adaptational Heroism, or is it simply that they took their time to properly establish their motivations?
08:48:47 PM May 17th 2017
I think we should wait to see how they're presented when they reappear, considering we don't know how they'll actually act or be presented in the future. If when the characters come back they're more heroic or sympathetic than their comics counterparts, then it would be Adaptational Heroism.
07:44:41 AM Mar 13th 2017
Did someone ever confirm that the Runaways are set within the MCU, and not simply in their own one?
12:24:56 PM Feb 1st 2017
Should we consider breaking up the main page and YMMV page into subpages similar to what we have for Homestuck? I feel like even with the folders the page is getting very unwieldy.
04:48:32 PM Sep 19th 2016
I see a lot of people spelling "Hydra" with all caps. Hydra is not an acronym. It's named for the mythological sea creature (cut off one head, two will grow in its place). The official Marvel page spells it as a word, not in all caps.

Anyone who feels like doing a mass cleanup, have at it, I guess. Unless I'm mistaken.
06:39:21 PM Sep 19th 2016
It appears that in the MCU, HYDRA is indeed spelled with all capitals. Wikipedia spells it with just the "H" capitalized; but the MCU wiki, general Marvel wiki, and most sources I can find spell it "HYDRA".

You're right that it's not an acronym though.
06:54:06 PM Sep 19th 2016
None of those sources are official though, are they? Just asking in general, not trying to question your evidence.
05:11:56 PM Sep 20th 2016
No, they're not, but neither is the Marvel Universe page, with regards to the MCU.

However, it appears that you are right; there's an Ao S episode titled "Love in the Time of Hydra".
05:31:29 PM Sep 20th 2016
edited by RayAP9
Oh, I thought everything that applied to the Marvel Universe also applies to the MCU, unless otherwise stated. Like, if, for example, a character's birth date is never stated in the MCU, we just assume it's the same as in the comics.

But if something in the MCU contradicts what's in the comics, it's something that's one way in the comics but another way in the MCU. I hope I explained that well.
02:08:22 PM Sep 21st 2016
No, because that doesn't make any sense. For example, there a lot of heroes who don't exist yet in the MCU, because their movies haven't come out. We don't assume they exist unless they actually show up in an MCU-canon medium.

You're right in this case anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
07:28:55 PM Sep 16th 2016
A simple question: Why is Doreen Green (Squirrel Girl) listed in the characters page (MCU Others)? Was she confirmed somewhere?

08:45:27 PM Sep 16th 2016
It seems that troper KINGOFCHEESE added her to the list sometime ago. I do remember seeing a few articles online which rumored that Marvel was working on a New Warriors TV show with Squirrel Girl as one of the main protagonists, but I don't think anything official has been confirmed by anyone within Marvel.
06:59:04 PM Feb 10th 2016
edited by ashlay
I wanted to replace the current page image with the following, given there's official group art out there with more of the characters thanks to civil war and newer seasons of some of the included shows:

Exact same format as current image, just with more of the characters and some updated art from the current seasons of various shows, and extra dr strange image now that ant-man and black panther are in the top half. Does anyone have any issue with this? Is it worth a larger discussion?
09:05:38 PM Feb 14th 2016
Image changes are handled on the Image Pickin' subforum, not on Discussion pages. You're more likely to get a response that way, at that.

Also, if you see a mod message saying not to change an image, I really wouldn't advise removing the message and changing the image anyway...
10:02:45 PM Feb 14th 2016
Subforum is broken due to upgrades.

Otherwise that's completely fair, my apologies.
09:44:52 PM Mar 20th 2015
edited by Valentorg
Could Commuting on a Bus possibly be applied to the Hulk/Bruce Banner in the MCU? It seems to fit, though the trope page doesn't even seem to have a film examples section. Hulk was initially one of the main 4 Avengers in the MCU, with his own movie alongside Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. Now each of them is at or on their way to their third movie while Hulk just shows up for the main Avengers films.
09:53:10 AM Oct 11th 2015
I'd imagine there aren't film examples on the page because there aren't a lot of film franchises long enough or with enough characters for the trope to apply. I think you could make a case for this example though.
03:47:49 AM Feb 13th 2015
I suggest we use Spider Man 2017 with a custom title of Spider-Man for the future film if no alternate title is used
05:13:40 AM Feb 13th 2015
I think so as well.
12:01:55 AM Dec 7th 2014
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We need to decide since it keeps getting edited back and forth ''Series/{{Agents of SHIELD}}'' or ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD''?
02:15:49 AM Dec 7th 2014
The latter. The former is simply unnecessary waste of markup space.
07:08:14 AM Aug 13th 2014
Should Guardians of the Galaxy REALLY be counted as a Bittersweet Ending? It's not like Groot's death stuck, and while a large number of the Nova Corps did die the film doesn't really treat its ending as anything other than happy. Even Thanos and Nebula still being out there makes it seem like more of a happy ending with a sequel hook.
07:17:54 AM Aug 13th 2014
Methinks you'll have more success when asking in one of the media threads in the forums.
09:16:03 AM May 27th 2014
So, I know that on the one hand, if someone is looking for fanfic involving specific characters it might be simpler to just go to the rec page for their movies, but doesn't it seem like it might be better organized in general to consolidate all of the recs onto one page, with different folders for different characters/movies/whatever, rather than checking four different pages for fanfic recs because there are so few on any given page, or because something might have been recc'd on multiple pages, or because someone is unsure of the correct page to rec something?

If, for example, someone were looking for Loki fic, they'd have four different pages to search (Thor, Thor 2, The Avengers and the MCU main page) and comparatively little actual content per page, because they're all split up. It gets even worse if you're looking for stuff involving Coulson or Tony Stark.

I'm just wondering if it wouldn't be easier to get rid of the individual movies' fanfic rec pages and group all of the existing recommendations on the MCU rec page. What does everyone else think?
04:30:28 PM Oct 4th 2012
Any thoughts on when we should make new pages for the Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy movies, and the SHIELD TV show?
04:48:35 PM Oct 4th 2012
Well, Work Pages Are A Free Launch, so I say at once.
05:33:23 PM Sep 6th 2012
Okay, I really have to ask. . . should the *title* of an upcoming movie be spoilered, ever?
11:27:18 PM Sep 6th 2012
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