Discussion Characters / StarWarsTheCloneWars

Should anything involving Darth Maul be un-spoiler tagged? At this point, him still being alive is as much of a secret as Darth Vader being Luke's father due to a lot of advertisements promoting his return in the Season 4 (as well as other things such as being on the Season 4 DVD case and being the Villain Protagonist for most of the Shadow Collective arc).

Should the deaths of major characters recurring throughout different arcs be spoiler tagged (I'm not counting characters showing up in prequels or whose death is what sets off the plot such as with Onaconda Farr)? I'm thinking deaths of characters who are only around for one storyline be un-spoiler tagged. Examples of character deaths that would be spoiler-tagged include Echo, Fives, Waxer, Satine, Savage Opress, and Pre Vizsla.

As for Pong Krell's true nature, that wasn't even revealed until the last episode of the Umbara-arc (even advertisements avoided spoiling that) and was only called-back to once. That should probably remain spoiler-tagged.

Maul's entry is the worst offender (yes I know, I'm the main perpetrator there), and since as you said he's return is practically It Was His Sled by now it's also rather pointless to keep the spoilers on him. If we really want to keep handling him as a secret, an option would be to hide him under "spoiler character" folder, but that would take him out from the Dathomirians folder, where he does belong. So in my opinion a big "Beware of Walking Spoiler on this page/in this folder!" warning should do it.
Krell and Barriss however are perfect candidates to be put in such folder. Also perhaps anything on Obi-Wan's entry regarding his posing as Rako Hardeen could be given a spoiler-folder on the bounty hunter page. I mean, yes it's not a secret once the arc starts, but it's not been advertised like Maul was and happens rather late in the series. So just having all that visible under Obi-Wan feels a bit out of place.
The problem with Death Tropes is that by simply having them listed spoils the character's fate, but the name of the trope must not be covered, no matter what. However deleting a perfectly fine example, just because someone might be offended is not an option. Again a warning about Death Spoilers should suffice.
These are only my thoughts of course. If anyone has a better idea, please share it!

However, the problem with spoiler-tagging Obi-Wan going undercover as Rako Hardeen is that not only do we know Obi-Wan survives this series, the official plot synopses for that arc don't even try to hide that he's undercover either.

I disagree. Major events in the third season, such as Echo's death, should still qualify as spoilers because they're big moments. I do agree that the spoilers involving Palpatine should probably be deleted, as should Anakin's. But major moments in Seasons 3 and 4 (such as, again, Echo's death and Pong Krell's true nature to give some examples) should remain marked as spoilers.

Season 4 spoilers should stay, I didn't say they should go (although they're annoyingly inconsistent). But things like what happened to the Power Trio on Mortis, or with Ventress are not mayor spoilers any more. Other plot points from Season 3 similarly don't really qualify by now. The mayority of those who come here, presumably do so after having seem past seasons. The others came here at their own peril, so a warning ahead should be enough. Character deaths are always spoilered, so naturally I didn't meant them to be unspoilered. But something has to be done, because if things continue like this during the run of Season 5, the number of spoilered examples will grow larger than non-spoilered ones, and that's outright stupid, not mention confusing.

If noone has objections, I'll start removing the spoiler tags from Season 3 examples tomorrow.

I agree. Season 5 tropes should be saved for when Season 5 premieres.

I disagree. As I have already stated, when the trailers are showing something in an unambiguous manner, there is no reason to leave them out. When a character (like say, Maul) is explicitly shown working with other villains and fighting with other villains, those are the tropes of Villain Team-Up and Evil Versus Evil in action, simple as that. When we see Sidious drawing two lightsabers, where is the speculation there? He is using two lightsabers and fighting with them. It is unambiguous and there is no room for interpretation. I believe that Season 5 trailer examples should be added on the following conditions: 1: They are depicting something in an unambiguous and explicit manner, 2: They are marked as spoilers, and 3: If they are not described in an overly-speculative sounding fashion (IE: this seems to suggest that, etc.)

As I said in PM, and in the very first post: there are many, many fans, including myself, who don't want to spoil the fun of the show with previews. This page is already full of mayor spoilers of earlier seasons, and older fans are familiar with those. If you put a page like this full of preview spoilers, some of them is ought to ran into them unsuspectingly. In this case it was me, but I tolerated it until the last bunch was added. For the rest of those who don't want to know anything ahead, I asked them to be deleted. Not because they're ambiguous.

This is why they should and will be marked as spoilers. If a person views them, that's their incentive. But if they're marked as spoilers, and you don't want to be spoiled, don't look at them. And again, I have already received permission to re-add them, so I will be.

Completely agree, neither of the two have anything to do in the Separatist folder by now. Edit: Moved them.

I was thinking of it. But I wasn't sure if we should pull it off yet(at least for secondary character) since most Clone war character don't have their own trope in other character page.

Only one that I agree is Sidious and Palpatine. In the Clone wars they are not show as the same character and most of their trope is from Sidious.