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tlh-in-tlh Since: Apr, 2016
Sep 24th 2020 at 12:15:43 PM •••

I quibble with the "Even the girls want her" entry for Sophie; per Word of God, Detective Grayson in "The Experimental Job" was meant to be a lesbian. That's what that exchange is referring to.

QuantumReality Since: Mar, 2010
May 5th 2013 at 12:16:34 AM •••

Sterling never loses?

That seems like a bit of an Informed Ability, since quite a few of Nate's plans often involve purposely factoring in Sterling's characteristic bulldoggedness in trying to bring down Nate for something.

There are only really two occasions for which Nate can fairly be said to have been outmaneuvered badly by Sterling: The first time he appears, and the second time when Sterling's daughter is kidnapped and Sterling misleads Nate as to the true purpose of their "job".

It's more of a "compared to all the other guys who Nate triumphs over, Sterling manages to hold his own just enough to be able to mostly truthfully tell himself he was better."

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tlh-in-tlh Since: Apr, 2016
Sep 24th 2020 at 12:03:25 PM •••

That's per Word of God; if you notice, any time Sterling goes up against the team, he may not ruin the team's plans, but he comes out better than he was before. That's what "Sterling never loses" means, not that Sterling never suffers setbacks or problems.

MikeMikeMikeMikeMike Since: Mar, 2019
Mar 14th 2019 at 10:08:13 AM •••

Doesn't Parker fit The Lancer more and doesn't Sophie fit the Number Two more? It says in the Number Two description that it doesn't automatically mean it's also The Lancer (look at Squad Levi of attack on the titan their The Smart Guy is also the Number Two). Parker is more of a foil to Nate (not really openly disagreeing but) she has no social skills Nate is made to talk. Parker is in it for the money Nate is in it more as a payback to mean people in general. And Parker's role is stealth since she's a thief while Nate's role is more up front being seen kind of. Also Parker is the youngest and Nate the oldest. I mean Spoiler Alert Parker is kind of groomed to become The Mastermind. This would make them a more fitting Five Man Band since the other four are maybe more obvious.

The Leader Nate, The Lancer Parker, The Big Guy Eliot, The Smart Guy Hardison, The Chick and Number Two Sophie

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bigbangbilly bigbangbilly Since: Nov, 2011
bigbangbilly
Jan 17th 2017 at 6:04:36 PM •••

Could [[Fighter, Mage, Thief]] fit for 3 of the 5 (Eliot, Hardison, and Parker )

JasonDaath Since: Dec, 1969
Sep 11th 2011 at 4:45:43 PM •••

Five-Man Band status: I seriously question the decision to make Parker the Chick and Sophie the Lancer. The Chick is the emotional and moral center to the group, the emotional center of the team, and the mother-figure. The Lancer is the one who's unpredictable, doesn't follow along with the rest of the team, and tends to do dangerous and crazy things at the drop of the hat. The sole reason for making Parker the Chick seems to be that she's emotionally vulnerable, which is... hardly something the Chick role has a trademark on.

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AmbarSonofDeshar Since: Jan, 2010
Nov 30th 2011 at 10:56:32 PM •••

Maybe so, but no matter how you slice it, Sophie's The Lancer. She's Nate's Number Two, keeps him on the wagon, and runs the team when he's gone. Parker's emotionally vulnerable, played like the youngest sister on the team, and in all other respects is essentially an Antiheroic Dark Chick. It works.

MtheR Since: May, 2009
Apr 26th 2014 at 9:02:28 PM •••

Why can't Sophie be The Lancer and The Chick, and Parker just...not be a trope?

SeptimusHeap MOD (Edited uphill both ways)
Apr 27th 2014 at 2:36:05 AM •••

The tropes are not that compatible, and besides, The Chick is not "any woman". Also, that would not be a Five-Man Band then.

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