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Leave the sentence. On the surface, it sounds like speculation, but it’s something that the game very deliberately hints at. Even if it is a Red Herring, this is something that the game itself presents.

The two characters being the same is likely, but if not stated (and there are other possabilities, and it being rather early chapters-wise says there's more to it) it falls into Speculative Troping. At best Ambiguously Related can be used, other tropes shouldn't include what isn't in the game.

Also Thatother1dude's comment: "The POSSIBILITY is noteworthy because the authorial intent is clearly for us to suspect it, even if it turns out to be a Red Herring." I'd argue it's not noteworthy, at least with how this site works, and this sounds like venting.

It comes off as WMG in the main page. Even if it's a valid theory, it's still far too speculative to be main page material.

I would remove it because the trope is He Who Must Not Be Seen, but we only have a two-chapter demo so far and it's possible, very likely even, that the Knight will be seen or have their identity confirmed in the five unreleased chapters.

It's "He Who Must Not Be Seen", not "He Who Can Only Be Seen In The Second Half Of The Story".

To be honest, that's a huge problem on Deltarune's pages - treating the released chapters as the entire game and acting as if the mysteries are going to stay mysterious forever, instead of just being mysterious because it's the start of the game and they can't go revealing the plot twists this early on.

While it is definitely intended for us to consider the possibility, we do not yet know whether this is foreshadowing or a Red Herring, so we cannot write examples asserting that Kris is or isn't the Knight.

It's also probably not going to remain ambiguous when the rest of the game gets released, so that's kinda a point against Ambiguously Related? Not really sure whether we should list it because it's ambiguous now, since — well, strictly speaking we don't know it's going to get resolved later.

A case for Examples Are Not Recent and Creating a Work Page for an Upcoming Work could probably also be made here and foresight for not-fully released works should be cut. "if that's the case remains to be seen" type of wording remains to be hold off until confirmed. WMG is probably a good space for it.

The simplest way to handle this is to talk about the ways the story hints at or leads audiences to believe certain conclusions, if said methods are truly that obvious, for example, "In Episode 3, the maid walks in on the butler holding a bloody knife, hinting that he may be involved with the murder", without actually stating the conclusion, ie "It's strongly implied that the butler is the murderer".

Alternatively if there's In-Universe speculation that wouldn't be speculative tropibg because it's actually in the story (example that comes to mind is a webcomic where a character thinks the circumstances of her birth give her more power than normal, but it's uncertain if she's correct)

^IIRC nobody in either of the two currently available chapters speculates that Kris is/might be the Knight.

Honestly, where do we draw the line between Implied Trope and Speculative Troping?

Implied Trope is connecting the dots left by the creators and inferring a specific trope from that. Speculative Troping is basically just WMG. By the time you start breaking away from just trying to explain what happened in an objective way, you're probably speculating.

I dunno if that's a good line, but it's the way I sort of define the two concepts. We might need to go to Trope Talk to really analyze though.

Once the full game comes out, if it turns out that Kris is the Knight, we could put under Foreshadowing that there are hints towards it in the first two chapters. But until then, I don't think we have those examples.

Bump. Not sure if the edit warring issue has been addressed.

The Undertale cleanup thread has recently started discussion on Deltarune. This here looks far too much like speculative troping for our liking, and such examples should be moved to the WMG page. It also has arguing in the main page. The whole thing should be purged.