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So I Just Drew A Chick With No Clothes On...:

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And I don't know where else to share it on this forum but here.

I only realised that her head was too big for her body once I started scanning it in! Go figure! Also, I know that it's probably not a good idea to be naked in a combat zone. I don't know why she's got no clothes on, so I leave it up to you to make it up — use your imagination!

Er, so, what do you think?

edited 1st Oct '09 10:45:54 PM by [AOD]

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She runs into battle naked, like the Celts!

Also, who cares if her head is too big? Call it stylized.

Heard from an art student friend of mine (who has a handle on the wiki but doesn't post in the fora often) that a person you draw tends to be as many heads tall as you are.

Which means AOD has a ridiculously big head.
"I have run 10 miles a day, every day, for 18 years. That's 65,000 miles. A third of the way to the moon. My goal is to run to the moon."
 4 Matrix, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:20:22 PM from The Matrix, Canada Relationship Status: Less than three
quidf scire vis?
Hehehe AOD drew ecchi hehehe.
/me smacks Matrix upside the head
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Or that I'm a short fella, possibly! I don't want to seem bigheaded!

VVV EDIT: Oh for Chrissake, stop giggling Matrix, you are making me embarrassed! VVV

edited 8th Mar '09 10:22:08 PM by [AOD]

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 7 Matrix, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:21:32 PM from The Matrix, Canada Relationship Status: Less than three
quidf scire vis?
Mrrrau! Hissss!
A short fella with a big head. Now all you need is a Villain Ball.
"I have run 10 miles a day, every day, for 18 years. That's 65,000 miles. A third of the way to the moon. My goal is to run to the moon."
 9 lee4hmz, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:22:37 PM from Giant Not-A-Base
Lurks too much
AOD: She is kinda cute, though. :)
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 10 Matrix, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:23:16 PM from The Matrix, Canada Relationship Status: Less than three
quidf scire vis?
Yes she is.
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Please don't start PSLing over my original characters. Please.
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 12 Matrix, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:24:56 PM from The Matrix, Canada Relationship Status: Less than three
quidf scire vis?
Hey, take it as a compliment.

We love your character! <3
 13 Morven, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:29:51 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
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She IS cute. Though at first I thought she had a bodysuit / coveralls kind of thing on.
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"Please don't start PS Ling over my original characters. Please."

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Well, that's fine. Shall we put this to the Troper Consensus, then?

Do you want:

1) Moar bewbage?

2) Moar badass?

3) Moar — er — Scenery Gorn?

Or...

4) Moar nekkid chix to PSL over RAWR!

edited 8th Mar '09 10:33:31 PM by [AOD]

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Scenery porn.
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 17 lee4hmz, Sun, 8th Mar '09 10:51:28 PM from Giant Not-A-Base
Lurks too much
I like Badass #1 and the Scenery Gorn. The "bewbage" girl is a bit too cute, almost saccharine.
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 18 Morven, Sun, 8th Mar '09 11:02:31 PM from Seattle, WA, USA
Nemesis
I like badass #1 as well, but I'm a well-known sucker for badass women.
A brighter future for a darker age.
 19 Sabbo, Sun, 8th Mar '09 11:07:47 PM from Australia Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
...She doesn't actually look naked. I f I tried to color that (which I do for various different things), skintone would not be one of my first thoughts.
 21 Matrix, Mon, 9th Mar '09 12:25:39 AM from The Matrix, Canada Relationship Status: Less than three
quidf scire vis?
I want moar PSL.
 22 Pacific, Mon, 9th Mar '09 1:45:46 AM from da beach house
Oh Yeah?
you know... when I clicked on this thread I was half expecting it to be a joke in order to get me to click on the thread.

...it did work, but that's besides the point.

 23 Fawriel, Mon, 9th Mar '09 2:34:18 AM from the bottom of my heart Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
THE MEEK
Hmm. Something besides the head bothers me about it.

For one, the pose is pretty stiff. As watching the remade Cutie Honey intro showed me, dynamicness goes a long way. By which I mean not only, but also, bouncies.

I think what mainly bothers me might be the legs. Legs are a bitch, I can attest. The seem too thin to me, especially the lower legs and feet. When you're stylizing, I think it's usually a better idea to make the lower legs larger than normal rather than the other way round. It's often used for a cute effect. Look at Megaman characters, or that girl with the black costume in Pretty Cure, where some puffy socks or somesuch act as a visual extension of her feet up to her knees (I've only seen the opening of that show, but the costume immediately struck me as awesome).

Also, since someone said something about something concerning big heads and stylization: Be ever wary of the Uncanny Valley. If you just blow up the head of an otherwise realistic person, you'll end up with something that's either hilarious or TERRIFYING. Our brain perceives a person's proportions by comparing certain parts to certain other parts, so you have to work with that. The (generic?) anime styles are so popular because they've pretty much perfected stylization in the direction of cuteness, sexiness or machismo-ness. You don't have to copy those styles wholesale, but if you want to play with your proportions, certain anime styles are a good place to start learning what works.

EDIT: I've uploaded a version with some possibly helpful red lines! Hooray!

The main points are the legs and the throat. I think the main reason the head looks too big is that the jaw is too long as compared to the neck. Make the neck a little wider, and it should work well.

You'll notice that I often seemed to just add red lines where you've already made outlines. That's because tiny little differences make a whole lot of difference. Whenever I'm drawing, I'm furiously abusing my eraser to place a line a nanometer away from where it previously was, and then I wonder why nobody sees a difference. But still, often a single pixel can, for instance, make the difference between a sad and a hopeful expression, or an eye and a weird eye. A lot of it is just me nitpicking, though, and some of it is just personal views (I have no idea after all if her forehead and nose meet like that, or if she's supposed to be pretty thin for a warrior), but... well, this is how I'd change it. Take from it what you will.

Also, don't be discouraged. You've broken into wide territory - you've got the anatomy roughly down. From here on out, it's details, but especially larger things like composition, dynamic poses and such that keep you from being a great artist. I'm on that stage, too, so, uh. Go us!

EDIT: I just realized the irony in me going on and on about details, then looking at the picture again to see lines I drew over the foot on the left. No, feet don't look like that. I just wanted to draw in some guidelines on how to construct feet, but apparently I rushed it (and using a mouse doesn't help), which brings up the question why I did it in the first place, to which I answer: "Shucks."

edited 9th Mar '09 2:54:23 AM by Fawriel

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Now, that was some useful criticism. Thanks Faw!
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