Fire Emblem

Where does it say she doesn't kill them? As far as I know, she gleefully talks about axing innocent people to death whenever she brings it up. And even if she "just" injures them, that doesn't make it better. She's still preying upon people that have done nothing wrong just because of her "omg sad tragic backstory." Give me a break.

But that still doesn't make any sense on Xander's part. He put Hans in jail at one point...and yet Peri is free, and even in his own employ. And Xander isn't the type of person who would employ a murderer, whether she was good at killing on the battlefield or not. Remember his distaste for violence in general.

And it doesn't matter that she doesn't live with the populace. She still goes to innocent villages to slaughter people, and no one stops her.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:03:48 PM by ILikeRobots

I think Xander choosing Peri as his retainer is because Nohr runs off of a meritocratic system when it comes to retainers, as opposed to Hoshido where it's inherited.

Peri may be Ax-Crazy, but she's effective at doing the job of a retainer.

No, she explicitly kills them. Check her supports with Corrin, Laslow, and Felicia.

Also check her support with Xander, where he states that he hired her based on her strength and is happy to let her behave as she wishes.

And she's not just dealing with trauma poorly. She's a serial killer. I will state with no hesitation that murdering innocent people (for fun, see her Felicia support) is not something that can be excused with "but she had a bad past and she's trying."

Peri gets a pass because she's a girl. I assure you, she wouldn't have as many fans if she wasn't girl designed to be attractive.

Lifis used to be the most terrible person that was recruitable but Peri takes it to a whole new level. She's a straight up serial killer and people will defend that because "muh tragic backstory" and "muh waifu" and "b-but she tries to better, h-honest."

edited 24th Apr '17 12:11:46 PM by RangerJackWalker

alright, fair enough.

in any case, i'm not saying that Peri is a well-written character, just that she has some amount of depth.

i disagree. a bishie anime boy would get away with it too.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:11:11 PM by EpicBleye

For me, it just made me wonder how bad Hans was that Xander decided "This guy needs to rot in prison." As for his hiring Peri, his support with Peri mentioned that he first saw her perform at a tourney, then hired her because he saw potential in her. I assume he, at some point, found out that servants and her don't go well together, and probably thought he could keep her in check.

I recall that her victims were servants, and it wasn't like she went around in the dark of the night slaughtering people left and right like some demented Red Rider of the Apocalypse. Maybe that's why Xander is willing to accept her as a servant and not someone like Hans.

Then again, previous games gave us Karel in his younger years and Jaffar. If I didn't have a problem with those two, I wouldn't have a problem with Peri.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:13:38 PM by dragonfire5000

All of this is pure speculation. Not to mention, Xander literally never orders Peri to stop her killing sprees from any supports I read. The most I remember is him lecturing her about acting more professionally, about speaking more formally. He seems to conveniently overlook the fact that she's a murderer.

But it's not. There is literally nothing that excuses the murder of innocent people. These people are trying to live happy lives, and some crazy ax murderer comes into their vicinity to hack them to pieces. But she's a decent person despite that? Uh...

Except "I have a tragic past" is an excuse that villain after villain uses for their actions. Do we coddle and forgive Arvis for barbecuing all of Gen 1 of Genealogy, just because in his later days he came to somewhat regret his actions, and because his life as a kid sucked?

Does she? I don't recall her claiming that she'll stop killing at random, or atone for the countless innocent lives she's taken. Sure, maybe it's acknowledged that it's wrong, but as far as I remember, Peri is a complete and utter Karma Houdini.

The problem is scope and exaggeration. Peri is someone who has literally murdered dozens (if not more) innocent people in cold blood, and people coddle her as though she hasn't done anything. She remains as upbeat and giggly and childish as ever. Even if she realizes what she is doing is wrong (which, yeah, no shit), she's a danger to innocent people and should not be given a pat on the back and a grin among all these morally good people. They're about justice, defending the lives of innocents, and everything...and yet allow Peri to waltz in like nothing happened.

Makes everyone in the army who goes on about justice and light a huge, huge hypocrite. Especially Xander. And that's where there's no consistency.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:15:43 PM by ILikeRobots

Because the localization team DID fuck up a lot of supports to change them for no reason.

But I Like Robots, Xander said Justice is an illusion so that obviously makes everything Peri completely fine.

Most of the Peri fans I know of know that her murdering of servants is wrong; it's just that we like her character arc of overcoming her trauma and not being so stab-happy with servants anymore. It's not "coddling" her, it's more like "We enjoy her character arc and how she develops through supports."

This.

Like, the best support with Peri is, honestly, the one with Laslow.

THAT is Character Development.

I too enjoy the character arc of a serial killer who has killed dozens, probably more, learning that killing innocent people is bad and gets away with everything they've done. What a fantastic character arc. 10/10

Glad you agree, I think it's good as well.

Good to have you in the Peri fanclub as well, Mr. Walker.

Yeah, about Peri's character arc.

It's not really one. The most she gets is her realizing exactly why she does what she does, not that she's going to stop doing it or atone for it, as far as I recall.

Is there any place where Peri goes "Oh shit, I've been murdering all these innocent people in cold blood, and that's pretty shitty of me. I'll stop immediately, and spend my days atoning for doing it."

I'm curious. I could be overlooking something.

Considering her ending with Laslow is this:

And all her other endings say that it took a while for her to learn the difference between right and wrong.

Yeah, no.

Here's a conversation between Peri and Soleil in the "Child Scramble" DLC that's currently only available in Japan. One of my favorite conversations involving Peri of all times, and one of the main reasons I like her character arc with Laslow.

And before anyone brings up the "It doesn't count because it's DLC and locked behind a paywall" spiel, here's my response: you have something called the Internet. You can look this stuff up without having to deal with a paywall. Still counts.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:30:30 PM by dragonfire5000

I'm not going to say it doesn't count but "the Internet exists" is not a good excuse. For much of anything, really.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:34:28 PM by Perseus

Wow, yeah, that conversation is a really good one.

What the hell, IS? We couldn't get something like that in the main game itself? That does show that Peri has changed. Wish we expanded on that too.

Why couldn't we get more of that in her other supports?! Dammit, writers.

I'm not going to say it doesn't count because it's DLC. I'm going to say it doesn't count because she doesn't actually follow her own advice, considering her ending with Laslow makes it clear that she kept on killing innocent all the until there weren't any records of her. Peri is a vile, irredeemable, piece of shit. I'm sure it's a lot of comfort to the families of her victims that she's trying to be a better person (putting aside the fact that the ending you get if you unlocked that DLC conversation says that she doesn't actually stop).

Since it was content made after the game came out, I think it's fair that you have to pay for it.

The real issue is that it hasn't been released worldwide yet, which is pure BS

Y'all keep saying "yet" as if it's ever going to happen at this point...

Wait, what? So she doesn't actually change at all?

I'm personally not opposed to Heel Face Turns in which a previously very flawed person who has done some terrible things comes over to the good guys' side, so long as they're genuine in their efforts to change their ways, sufficiently regretful of their actions and earnest their efforts in order to be a good person. I mean, I'm a huge Zuko fan. Everyone does make mistakes...but if Peri's just a case of lip service, yeah, that's kinda shitty.

Since it was DLC made after the main game was released and IS hasn't done any "Completing this DLC changes this character's ending" bit, I wasn't expecting the ending to acknowledge it. But the fact that there is such a conversation is all that matters to me, since I liked how it shows Peri knows what she's doing is wrong and is doing her best to improve herself.

Don't know how much of a hassle it is to program a "Completing this DLC and seeing this specific conversation will change this character's ending" after the entire game was released, so I won't blame the developers for this (since I'm not all that familiar with how much effort such programming takes). It would be interesting to see such a thing in future games, however.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:42:40 PM by dragonfire5000

Her ending with Laslow is this:

Which makes it clear that she hasn't changed at all.

edited 24th Apr '17 12:43:47 PM by RangerJackWalker