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RukiMotomiya The Ghost of Years Past from The Internet Abyss Since: Aug, 2009
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#1226: Apr 23rd 2010 at 1:21:51 AM

Chen...

Unfortunately, it's late and I don't have much time. So not much to say now.

However, I will post this most likely old thing.

Brickman Gentleman Adventurer! from wherever adventure takes me Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: My own grandpa
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#1227: Apr 23rd 2010 at 6:04:31 AM

Chen and Orin aren't really similar at all personality-wise, even if they're similar types of Youkai and should theoretically have similar powers.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1228: Apr 23rd 2010 at 6:26:50 AM

Which is a good thing. When you have two characters who are superficially similar like that, it makes it a lot more interesting if you can compare them and use that comparison to strengthen each of their characterizations.

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#1229: Apr 23rd 2010 at 6:44:02 AM

The way I see Chen and the cat village thing is she wants to recreate what she has with Ran but with her in Ran's position. But she doesn't understand her relationship with Ran. She thinks things like food or catnip are why she's loyal to Ran rather then love or respect or a shikigami contract. So she tries to buy the other cats' loyalty rather than earning it. "If I give you a dollar, will you be my friend" sort of thing.

Also, both Ran and Chen have a "normal" human friendship level and Ran comes to the village to do shopping and won't generally attack unless you disrupt her work. I wonder if the attacking P Mi SS mentions is more of the play-fighting type unless you splash Chen with water.

However, Chen is too unreliable for Ran to leave her work to.

According to PCB extra stage dialogue, Chen was supposed to be helping set up a banquet. And then the player character arrives.

A cat is added so here's a doujin titled Kitten Girl featuring 75% moeblob Chen and an overprotective Ran set right before Imperishable Night.

Chen also shows up in Usually Dead's Perfect Cherry Blossom based stories Resolute and Ghostly Gardener, Remixed Cherry Blossom, and Recovery of Beloved Matriarch. Usually Dead uses more of the feral cat characterization for Chen.

I know there's fanworks that feature feral Chen but I really can't think of any off the top of my head. Fans tend to gravitate towards the cute, kitten Chen. And I can't really blame them.

edited 23rd Apr '10 6:44:53 AM by Bocaj

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#1230: Apr 23rd 2010 at 8:52:11 AM

I like the image of a Chen who's a naughty little cat. She's just too adorable to stay angry with for long though.

I can imagine how the villagers have a sort of love-hate with her pranks and throwing danmaku at them whenever Ran sends her to do the shopping. They put up with it because, well, she's Chen, and no-one has gotten too badly hurt by her pranks.

She's definitely the sort who'd try to win over Cirno's little STRONGEST club with her might and her connections to Ran and Yukari.

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#1231: Apr 23rd 2010 at 10:56:36 AM

If I remember correctly, the Tag Dream doujin had Ran and Chen as a team in the first round. Both of them became extremely powerful during their fight (it was against the team of Yuugi and Orin) by way of their respective masters channeling some of their powers into them from afar during the fight.

After Yukari decided to step down and let them fight by themselves, they lost, eventually (I mean, it's still freaking Yuugi), but an extremely cool thing was after the fight, where Chen, well, did this.

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Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1232: Apr 23rd 2010 at 11:23:51 AM

CHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

I actually think Ran would be one of the most physically powerful Touhou characters. Still below Yuugi, I guess, but... she's got the Boobs Of Steel, she's physically the largest character (well, after Unzan), constantly lugging around those giant tails of hers, and unlike Kanako, who also carries quite a load with her, Ran still seems quite agile and graceful thanks to her foxiness. I mean, her being a fox.

edited 23rd Apr '10 11:24:36 AM by Fawriel

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#1233: Apr 23rd 2010 at 5:07:54 PM

There are some portrayals that have Ran become Yukari's shikigami when she's already grown up. And some have Ran as a child when she becomes a shikigami so that a maternal Yukari can be shown.

What do you think? Which do you prefer?

As an aside, Shino is delightfully cruel in her comics.

edited 23rd Apr '10 5:35:11 PM by Bocaj

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#1234: Apr 23rd 2010 at 9:57:48 PM

Ha HA! Child abuse.

Yukari's just not parent material - you can easily imagine her sleeping for a week straight and just Gapping a kid away when it tried to wake her up. But she's definitely up for being a grandparent, which would allow her to spoil/dote on/tease to her heart's content, but duck out of the way and let the child's mother (figure) deal with the hard stuff.

I'm thinkin' Ran joined up as an adult, if only because it'd be less work than raising a child, and because I doubt anyone could survive hundreds of years of Yukari "parenting." At least not without some scarring.

Fawriel Since: Jan, 2001
#1235: Apr 24th 2010 at 2:36:51 AM

Ha HA! Child abuse.

That is hilarious. grin

Hmm, I'd think that Yukari wouldn't make a child her shikigami. Hell, that one Prismriver doujin said that Yukari used to be weaker than Ran... That seems closer to the mark. She'd only stake a claim on someone who could really put up a fight.

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#1236: Apr 24th 2010 at 10:17:11 AM

Wait, did Ran actually do anything or is Yukari just insane?

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#1237: Apr 24th 2010 at 10:40:42 AM

or is Yukari just insane

I think we all know the answer to that.

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CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1238: Apr 24th 2010 at 5:41:02 PM

^Yeah, there's a reason she gets her own entry on the Template.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#1239: Apr 24th 2010 at 7:20:10 PM

Yukari's just not parent material....

...Pretty much any of the touhou girls would hilariously bad mothers.

Which, of course, is the exact reason why I love making them have kids with my OC's. Instant Hilartity, Just add bad parenting kids and OC's!

*puts up from flame shield to protect from the people who think all OC's are Mary sues.
*.....

edited 24th Apr '10 7:22:54 PM by Chagen46

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#1240: Apr 24th 2010 at 7:55:31 PM

Why do you even need the OCs? It's Gensokyo, they'd find a way of having Homosexual Reproduction.tongue

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#1241: Apr 24th 2010 at 8:16:13 PM

Youmu could probably be a good, if strict, mother.

Well, as long as Yuyuko doesn't drive her into one of those "if you're responsible, I'll cut you down. If you're not, I'll cut you down and move on" type of moods.

edited 24th Apr '10 8:21:47 PM by Bocaj

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#1242: Apr 24th 2010 at 8:33:24 PM

Why do you even need the O Cs? It's Gensokyo, they'd find a way of having Homosexual Reproduction.

1:I hate, hate, hate yuri. I only like het.

2:I like to create OC's, and I like throwing a monkey wrench into the canon character's lives.

Seriosuly: Reimu got a Shrine Virgin.,

  • Marisa got a crazy scientist,
  • Yukari and Ran both got Pornromancer's,
  • Chen got a street racing Nekomata,
  • Aya got a Emo Teen half-crow-tengu-half-hell-raven,
  • Momiji got a cyborg wolf tengu pervert,
  • Sanae got a slave trader who was going to sell her to be a sex slave to pay off debts,
  • Suwako and Kanako got a pair of two gods trying tp recoup after a disastorous Noodle Incident,
  • Byakuren got a Evilutionary Biologist hell-bent on raping her and killing all sentient beings in the universe so he can create a perfect one where he is a god,
  • Shou and Nazrin got Opposite Sex Clones of themselves created by aformentioned madman,
  • Reisen got a completely insane psychopath moon-rabbit with a chainsaw attached to hit right hand,
  • Tewi got a half-moon-rabbit-half-earth-rabbit lawer,
  • Sakuya got a italian drug addict that fell from aristocracy,
  • Remilia got a pathetically vampire fanboy cop,
  • Flandre got said cop's brother,
  • Patchy got a ridiculously muscular magician that happened to be a a complete idiot,
  • Meiling got a Large Ham idiot ninja,
  • Yuyuko got a ridiculously muscular-yet-intelligent Ghost that happend to be FRENCH,
  • Youmu got a german archer,
  • Alice got an idiot Italian DJ,
  • Nitori got a psychopathic Kappa who could just randomly flip out and murder her for no reason,
  • Suika and Yuugi got two Oni generals of another Genso that dont drink,
  • Cirno got a fairy rock star,
  • Komachi got a shinigami that traded his boat in for a motorcycle,

  • Shiki got a deliquent who spendsall of his days listening to rock on his Ipod but is actually one of the best Yama's around,
  • Mokou got a completely nuts scientist,
  • Kaguya got a sexist idiot lunarian,
  • Eirin got a classy and sophisticated drug dealer from italy,
  • Keine got a pervert youkai that is actually pretty intelligent, *Mystia got a demigod of SEX,
  • Wriggle got a opposite sex clone of herself,
  • Rumia got a tough-yet-caring youkai who defends himself with a chain,
  • Iku got a human who can control electricity and is rather powerful for having no magical training,
  • Tenshi got a Celestial who she has to fight with but cant get within ten feet of her without freaking out,
  • Satori got a freakishly huge satori swordsman,
  • Koishi got said swordsman fencer brother,
  • Orin got a Nekomata Samurai she once knew but forgot about and is extremely stoic,
  • Utsuho got the brother of the guy Aya got, while Hatate got the third brother.
  • Kogasa got a swordsman Kasarasa who doesn't take shit,
  • Nue got the guy who trained said kasarasa,
  • Murasa got said Nue guy's dead brother that was killed by him in a fatal accident...

These guys are my pride and joy. I put some work into them, and their interactions with the touhou girls can be quite hilarious.

Who knows? Maybe the two groups could even grow to like each other~

edited 24th Apr '10 8:38:59 PM by Chagen46

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CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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#1243: Apr 24th 2010 at 8:53:45 PM

I'm not sure I like OCs made simply for purposes of shipping with canon characters. Fairy rock star for Cirno is tempting (if odd due to... well, rock in Gensokyo?), but I ultimately prefer Cirno/Daiyousei.

We should probably stop here, lest we argue this as much as the "Is PC-98 canon?" arguement.

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#1244: Apr 24th 2010 at 8:58:38 PM

I'm not sure I like OCs made simply for purposes of shipping with canon characters. Fairy rock star for Cirno is tempting (if odd due to... well, rock in Gensokyo?), but I ultimately prefer Cirno/Daiyousei.

We should probably stop here, lest we argue this as much as the "Is PC-98 canon?" arguement.

Well, I'm glad you like at least one of them.

And, trust me, they've got much more interesting personalities than Relatioship Sues. Some of their interactions can be hilarious, but some stand out: Tanner/Ran, Elrich/Remilia, Tagento/Marisa, Goemon/Byakuren, Gio/Sakuya, Patuli/Patchy, and Jiko/Meiling are damn funny.

But, hey, I agree with you, I'm not here to argue.

edited 24th Apr '10 8:58:51 PM by Chagen46

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Hylarn Since: Jan, 2001
#1245: Apr 24th 2010 at 9:00:22 PM

If you dislike yuri you're seriously in the wrong fandom. Also a bad fandom for OCs; even the most innocent of them tend to get a lot of hate.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#1246: Apr 24th 2010 at 9:12:34 PM

I think it's more popular to repurpose a minor character than it is to make someone up. I mean, there are a lot of characters already...

Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#1247: Apr 24th 2010 at 9:13:21 PM

If you dislike yuri you're seriously in the wrong fandom. Also a bad fandom for OCs; even the most innocent of them tend to get a lot of hate.

Well aware of that, and I work my hardest to make my OC's so that even the most anti-OC guy there is will like them.

I'm not kidding when I say that I've spent over six months making and perfecting these guys.

"Who wants to hear about good stuff when the bottom of the abyss of human failure that you know doesn't exist is so much greater?"-Wraith
CapedLuigisYoshi Some Gal from right here, duh Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Some Gal
#1248: Apr 24th 2010 at 9:13:37 PM

^^Yeah, give some use to Kikuri. Or Kisume. Or the character I always like to promote, Shingyoku!

edited 24th Apr '10 9:13:52 PM by CapedLuigisYoshi

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Chagen46 Dude Looks Like a Lady from I don't really know Since: Jan, 2010
#1250: Apr 24th 2010 at 9:20:44 PM

Unpossible.

....You see, this is my main problem with the touhou fandom.

Everyone is fine until you mention OC's, which turns them into annoying little fucks that huddle behind all their yuri, and BAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW.

It's just sad.

"Who wants to hear about good stuff when the bottom of the abyss of human failure that you know doesn't exist is so much greater?"-Wraith

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